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  • unsung said:
    I hope she does.
    Somebody wants to be taken seriously.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Go away Hillary
    They may want to avoid dropping balloons around her next time...snowflakes may be a good alternative!
  • PJPOWER said:
    They may want to avoid dropping balloons around her next time...snowflakes may be a good alternative!
    Didn't know alt accounts were allowed on here, Unsung.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Go away Hillary
    PJPOWER said:
    They may want to avoid dropping balloons around her next time...snowflakes may be a good alternative!
    Didn't know alt accounts were allowed on here, Unsung.
    Um, I am not Unsung, but nice try.  Do you have some kind of high school obsession with unsung or something?  That’s.....interesting.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,302
    She is running and will lose the nomination
    She is running right now. Running for President is a process that starts long before you announce you are running for President. She may never reach the stage where she makes a formal announcement. But make no mistake. The Clintons are currently testing the waters.
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Yeah him and halifax are my stalkers.  That reminds me I need to send those rent checks.
  • unsung said:
    Yeah him and halifax are my stalkers.  That reminds me I need to send those rent checks.
    You should be so honored. Because posting on a bands message board and getting responses amounts to stalking. Paranoid much? BOO!
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,147
    Of course she wants to run and will run.  She had been meticulously planning on being POTUS for the last two decades.  It took an 8 year delay when Obama materialized out of no where and then she got beaten by a circus clown when handed the democrat nomination 2 years ago.  

    I'm guessing Beto will be the nomination.  Good looks and good vibes in 2020.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,195
    She isnt running.
    PJPOWER said:
    They may want to avoid dropping balloons around her next time...snowflakes may be a good alternative!
    Didn't know alt accounts were allowed on here, Unsung.
    Snowflake is an older right wing code for the left, but it checks out.
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  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    edited November 2018
    She isnt running.
    She isn't running.  I'm amazed at how the "left wing media" helps to destroy her.  She would have been a great president.  Most of us voted for her so take that.
    There is no way she is running. She went through too much in the last election. Agree completely that she would have been a great president and I don't get why the Lewinsky thing should hang around her neck. She didn't have the affair, Bill did. She was the pissed off spouse. Amazing.

    I don't get 'go away Hillary'  but the opinion is that she will run and lose - that was a choice in the poll but no one chose it.  Instead people are telling her to go away. Why should she disappear from view? It's how people have treated her for her entire life in the the public eye. 
    Post edited by njnancy on
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,026
    njnancy said:
    She isn't running.  I'm amazed at how the "left wing media" helps to destroy her.  She would have been a great president.  Most of us voted for her so take that.
    There is no way she is running. She went through too much in the last election. Agree completely that she would have been a great president and I don't get why the Lewinsky thing should hang around her neck. She didn't have the affair, Bill did. She was the pissed off spouse. Amazing.

    I don't get 'go away Hillary'  but the opinion is that she will run and lose - that was a choice in the poll but no one chose it.  Instead people are telling her to go away. Why should she disappear from view? It's how people have treated her for her entire life in the the public eye. 

    I would never feel sorry for any politician in this day and age who rose to the level she did.  You don't get there by shaking hands and kissing babies.  You make backroom deals and sell people/country out for campaign donations.
  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    She isnt running.
    njnancy said:
    She isn't running.  I'm amazed at how the "left wing media" helps to destroy her.  She would have been a great president.  Most of us voted for her so take that.
    There is no way she is running. She went through too much in the last election. Agree completely that she would have been a great president and I don't get why the Lewinsky thing should hang around her neck. She didn't have the affair, Bill did. She was the pissed off spouse. Amazing.

    I don't get 'go away Hillary'  but the opinion is that she will run and lose - that was a choice in the poll but no one chose it.  Instead people are telling her to go away. Why should she disappear from view? It's how people have treated her for her entire life in the the public eye. 

    I would never feel sorry for any politician in this day and age who rose to the level she did.  You don't get there by shaking hands and kissing babies.  You make backroom deals and sell people/country out for campaign donations.
    I never said to feel sorry for her, I just don't understand the hostility. Instead of choosing 'She will run but lose, not got nominated" etc, which were all choices that were expressed in posts, people  chose 'go away Hilary' in the poll.

    She's a political animal, highly ambitious, she's made deals. Now choose which of the choices that you really believe. 

    I just find the overwhelming 'Go away' sentiment to be distasteful. That's just my opinion. 
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    njnancy said:
    njnancy said:
    She isn't running.  I'm amazed at how the "left wing media" helps to destroy her.  She would have been a great president.  Most of us voted for her so take that.
    There is no way she is running. She went through too much in the last election. Agree completely that she would have been a great president and I don't get why the Lewinsky thing should hang around her neck. She didn't have the affair, Bill did. She was the pissed off spouse. Amazing.

    I don't get 'go away Hillary'  but the opinion is that she will run and lose - that was a choice in the poll but no one chose it.  Instead people are telling her to go away. Why should she disappear from view? It's how people have treated her for her entire life in the the public eye. 

    I would never feel sorry for any politician in this day and age who rose to the level she did.  You don't get there by shaking hands and kissing babies.  You make backroom deals and sell people/country out for campaign donations.
    I never said to feel sorry for her, I just don't understand the hostility. Instead of choosing 'She will run but lose, not got nominated" etc, which were all choices that were expressed in posts, people  chose 'go away Hilary' in the poll.

    She's a political animal, highly ambitious, she's made deals. Now choose which of the choices that you really believe. 

    I just find the overwhelming 'Go away' sentiment to be distasteful. That's just my opinion. 
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,302
    She is running and will lose the nomination
    If an ambitious man had failed to beat Donald Trump in the general election, I would want him to go away too.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,749
    Go away Hillary
    njnancy said:
    njnancy said:
    She isn't running.  I'm amazed at how the "left wing media" helps to destroy her.  She would have been a great president.  Most of us voted for her so take that.
    There is no way she is running. She went through too much in the last election. Agree completely that she would have been a great president and I don't get why the Lewinsky thing should hang around her neck. She didn't have the affair, Bill did. She was the pissed off spouse. Amazing.

    I don't get 'go away Hillary'  but the opinion is that she will run and lose - that was a choice in the poll but no one chose it.  Instead people are telling her to go away. Why should she disappear from view? It's how people have treated her for her entire life in the the public eye. 

    I would never feel sorry for any politician in this day and age who rose to the level she did.  You don't get there by shaking hands and kissing babies.  You make backroom deals and sell people/country out for campaign donations.
    I never said to feel sorry for her, I just don't understand the hostility. Instead of choosing 'She will run but lose, not got nominated" etc, which were all choices that were expressed in posts, people  chose 'go away Hilary' in the poll.

    She's a political animal, highly ambitious, she's made deals. Now choose which of the choices that you really believe. 

    I just find the overwhelming 'Go away' sentiment to be distasteful. That's just my opinion. 

    Many Dems, including me, are screaming for her to go away because Trumps best path to four more years is for her to win the nomination.

    Many 2016 observers warned her that she was not connecting with voters, that drawing at best crowds of 5000 with plenty of empty seats, by not being able to cast a clear message, that by not having a clear and concise explanation for her email controversy, that by lecturing voters " he is not qualified" all of this is no way to win a general election.

    And she told those worried back in 2016 that despite the polls she was in grave danger of losing...her team told everyone concerned that trump was actually going to win, she told them all to STFU. Typical clinton smugness.

    So yeah, after losing 2016 and doing significant harm to our country, go away Hillary. You are where you are because your Husband knows how to connect with voters, not you.

  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,662
    She isnt running.
    njnancy said:
    njnancy said:
    She isn't running.  I'm amazed at how the "left wing media" helps to destroy her.  She would have been a great president.  Most of us voted for her so take that.
    There is no way she is running. She went through too much in the last election. Agree completely that she would have been a great president and I don't get why the Lewinsky thing should hang around her neck. She didn't have the affair, Bill did. She was the pissed off spouse. Amazing.

    I don't get 'go away Hillary'  but the opinion is that she will run and lose - that was a choice in the poll but no one chose it.  Instead people are telling her to go away. Why should she disappear from view? It's how people have treated her for her entire life in the the public eye. 

    I would never feel sorry for any politician in this day and age who rose to the level she did.  You don't get there by shaking hands and kissing babies.  You make backroom deals and sell people/country out for campaign donations.
    I never said to feel sorry for her, I just don't understand the hostility. Instead of choosing 'She will run but lose, not got nominated" etc, which were all choices that were expressed in posts, people  chose 'go away Hilary' in the poll.

    She's a political animal, highly ambitious, she's made deals. Now choose which of the choices that you really believe. 

    I just find the overwhelming 'Go away' sentiment to be distasteful. That's just my opinion. 

    Many Dems, including me, are screaming for her to go away because Trumps best path to four more years is for her to win the nomination.

    Many 2016 observers warned her that she was not connecting with voters, that drawing at best crowds of 5000 with plenty of empty seats, by not being able to cast a clear message, that by not having a clear and concise explanation for her email controversy, that by lecturing voters " he is not qualified" all of this is no way to win a general election.

    And she told those worried back in 2016 that despite the polls she was in grave danger of losing...her team told everyone concerned that trump was actually going to win, she told them all to STFU. Typical clinton smugness.

    So yeah, after losing 2016 and doing significant harm to our country, go away Hillary. You are where you are because your Husband knows how to connect with voters, not you.

    I voted for her and I'm not screaming for her to go away....how ridiculous.

    She got 3 million more votes than that idiot.  She lost by 77,000 votes in three states thanks to Comey.

    She isn't running.  
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,749
    Go away Hillary
    njnancy said:
    njnancy said:
    She isn't running.  I'm amazed at how the "left wing media" helps to destroy her.  She would have been a great president.  Most of us voted for her so take that.
    There is no way she is running. She went through too much in the last election. Agree completely that she would have been a great president and I don't get why the Lewinsky thing should hang around her neck. She didn't have the affair, Bill did. She was the pissed off spouse. Amazing.

    I don't get 'go away Hillary'  but the opinion is that she will run and lose - that was a choice in the poll but no one chose it.  Instead people are telling her to go away. Why should she disappear from view? It's how people have treated her for her entire life in the the public eye. 

    I would never feel sorry for any politician in this day and age who rose to the level she did.  You don't get there by shaking hands and kissing babies.  You make backroom deals and sell people/country out for campaign donations.
    I never said to feel sorry for her, I just don't understand the hostility. Instead of choosing 'She will run but lose, not got nominated" etc, which were all choices that were expressed in posts, people  chose 'go away Hilary' in the poll.

    She's a political animal, highly ambitious, she's made deals. Now choose which of the choices that you really believe. 

    I just find the overwhelming 'Go away' sentiment to be distasteful. That's just my opinion. 

    Many Dems, including me, are screaming for her to go away because Trumps best path to four more years is for her to win the nomination.

    Many 2016 observers warned her that she was not connecting with voters, that drawing at best crowds of 5000 with plenty of empty seats, by not being able to cast a clear message, that by not having a clear and concise explanation for her email controversy, that by lecturing voters " he is not qualified" all of this is no way to win a general election.

    And she told those worried back in 2016 that despite the polls she was in grave danger of losing...her team told everyone concerned that trump was actually going to win, she told them all to STFU. Typical clinton smugness.

    So yeah, after losing 2016 and doing significant harm to our country, go away Hillary. You are where you are because your Husband knows how to connect with voters, not you.

    I voted for her and I'm not screaming for her to go away....how ridiculous.

    She got 3 million more votes than that idiot.  She lost by 77,000 votes in three states thanks to Comey.

    She isn't running.  

    Perhaps understanding a metaphor will help understand why some are Figuratively screaming at Hillary.

    Running up the popular vote in NY & CA is meaningless and citing that may be ridiculous

    Not connecting with voters in those 3 states mentioned turned out to be the most meaningful fail that will impact the Supreme Court for 40 years.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Go away Hillary
    Preach it
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    unsung said:
    Yeah him and halifax are my stalkers.  That reminds me I need to send those rent checks.
    Do you just sign and forward the rent checks that Hillary sends to you?
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Go away Hillary
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Yeah him and halifax are my stalkers.  That reminds me I need to send those rent checks.
    Do you just sign and forward the rent checks that Hillary sends to you?
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  • njnancy said:
    njnancy said:
    She isn't running.  I'm amazed at how the "left wing media" helps to destroy her.  She would have been a great president.  Most of us voted for her so take that.
    There is no way she is running. She went through too much in the last election. Agree completely that she would have been a great president and I don't get why the Lewinsky thing should hang around her neck. She didn't have the affair, Bill did. She was the pissed off spouse. Amazing.

    I don't get 'go away Hillary'  but the opinion is that she will run and lose - that was a choice in the poll but no one chose it.  Instead people are telling her to go away. Why should she disappear from view? It's how people have treated her for her entire life in the the public eye. 

    I would never feel sorry for any politician in this day and age who rose to the level she did.  You don't get there by shaking hands and kissing babies.  You make backroom deals and sell people/country out for campaign donations.
    I never said to feel sorry for her, I just don't understand the hostility. Instead of choosing 'She will run but lose, not got nominated" etc, which were all choices that were expressed in posts, people  chose 'go away Hilary' in the poll.

    She's a political animal, highly ambitious, she's made deals. Now choose which of the choices that you really believe. 

    I just find the overwhelming 'Go away' sentiment to be distasteful. That's just my opinion. 

    Many Dems, including me, are screaming for her to go away because Trumps best path to four more years is for her to win the nomination.

    Many 2016 observers warned her that she was not connecting with voters, that drawing at best crowds of 5000 with plenty of empty seats, by not being able to cast a clear message, that by not having a clear and concise explanation for her email controversy, that by lecturing voters " he is not qualified" all of this is no way to win a general election.

    And she told those worried back in 2016 that despite the polls she was in grave danger of losing...her team told everyone concerned that trump was actually going to win, she told them all to STFU. Typical clinton smugness.

    So yeah, after losing 2016 and doing significant harm to our country, go away Hillary. You are where you are because your Husband knows how to connect with voters, not you.

    I voted for her and I'm not screaming for her to go away....how ridiculous.

    She got 3 million more votes than that idiot.  She lost by 77,000 votes in three states thanks to Comey.

    She isn't running.  

    Perhaps understanding a metaphor will help understand why some are Figuratively screaming at Hillary.

    Running up the popular vote in NY & CA is meaningless and citing that may be ridiculous

    Not connecting with voters in those 3 states mentioned turned out to be the most meaningful fail that will impact the Supreme Court for 40 years.
    Yeah it's amazing people make that argument. I made that argument for Gore in 2000...but I was only 16-years-old. It's amazing to see grown adults who can make a dozens of arguments about why Trump shouldn't be president, settle on that one.

    I'm of the belief (as many are) that the system needs changing. I'm not suggesting abolishing the electoral college. But the "winner-take-all" aspect of it is flawed. I think the electoral votes of each state should be split depending on how big of a percentage you of the state's vote you win. Or, each congressional district in a state could have their own amount of votes. This way, the candidates would have to campaign in California and Texas because putting a dent in your opponent's margin in those states would matter. Presidential candidates don't stop in Dallas or Los Angeles at all, yet they'll campaign in Scranton, PA a dozen times. That's a broken system. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,662
    She isnt running.
    njnancy said:
    njnancy said:
    She isn't running.  I'm amazed at how the "left wing media" helps to destroy her.  She would have been a great president.  Most of us voted for her so take that.
    There is no way she is running. She went through too much in the last election. Agree completely that she would have been a great president and I don't get why the Lewinsky thing should hang around her neck. She didn't have the affair, Bill did. She was the pissed off spouse. Amazing.

    I don't get 'go away Hillary'  but the opinion is that she will run and lose - that was a choice in the poll but no one chose it.  Instead people are telling her to go away. Why should she disappear from view? It's how people have treated her for her entire life in the the public eye. 

    I would never feel sorry for any politician in this day and age who rose to the level she did.  You don't get there by shaking hands and kissing babies.  You make backroom deals and sell people/country out for campaign donations.
    I never said to feel sorry for her, I just don't understand the hostility. Instead of choosing 'She will run but lose, not got nominated" etc, which were all choices that were expressed in posts, people  chose 'go away Hilary' in the poll.

    She's a political animal, highly ambitious, she's made deals. Now choose which of the choices that you really believe. 

    I just find the overwhelming 'Go away' sentiment to be distasteful. That's just my opinion. 

    Many Dems, including me, are screaming for her to go away because Trumps best path to four more years is for her to win the nomination.

    Many 2016 observers warned her that she was not connecting with voters, that drawing at best crowds of 5000 with plenty of empty seats, by not being able to cast a clear message, that by not having a clear and concise explanation for her email controversy, that by lecturing voters " he is not qualified" all of this is no way to win a general election.

    And she told those worried back in 2016 that despite the polls she was in grave danger of losing...her team told everyone concerned that trump was actually going to win, she told them all to STFU. Typical clinton smugness.

    So yeah, after losing 2016 and doing significant harm to our country, go away Hillary. You are where you are because your Husband knows how to connect with voters, not you.

    I voted for her and I'm not screaming for her to go away....how ridiculous.

    She got 3 million more votes than that idiot.  She lost by 77,000 votes in three states thanks to Comey.

    She isn't running.  

    Perhaps understanding a metaphor will help understand why some are Figuratively screaming at Hillary.

    Running up the popular vote in NY & CA is meaningless and citing that may be ridiculous

    Not connecting with voters in those 3 states mentioned turned out to be the most meaningful fail that will impact the Supreme Court for 40 years.
    Yeah it's amazing people make that argument. I made that argument for Gore in 2000...but I was only 16-years-old. It's amazing to see grown adults who can make a dozens of arguments about why Trump shouldn't be president, settle on that one.

    I'm of the belief (as many are) that the system needs changing. I'm not suggesting abolishing the electoral college. But the "winner-take-all" aspect of it is flawed. I think the electoral votes of each state should be split depending on how big of a percentage you of the state's vote you win. Or, each congressional district in a state could have their own amount of votes. This way, the candidates would have to campaign in California and Texas because putting a dent in your opponent's margin in those states would matter. Presidential candidates don't stop in Dallas or Los Angeles at all, yet they'll campaign in Scranton, PA a dozen times. That's a broken system. 
    The electoral votes themselves are jacked up as well.  I know we change them every 10 years but the idea of each state having 2 senatorial votes is kind of weird....2 votes represent California, 2 votes represent South Dakota which has the population of one small city in CA.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Go away Hillary
    Yeah, I don't have a solution, but it's all fucked up.
    The entire government has been hijacked by a minority of voters.  I saw some crazy statistics, something like 20 million more voters were represented by representatives who voted "no" on Kavanaugh than yes. 
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  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    She isnt running.
    njnancy said:
    njnancy said:
    She isn't running.  I'm amazed at how the "left wing media" helps to destroy her.  She would have been a great president.  Most of us voted for her so take that.
    There is no way she is running. She went through too much in the last election. Agree completely that she would have been a great president and I don't get why the Lewinsky thing should hang around her neck. She didn't have the affair, Bill did. She was the pissed off spouse. Amazing.

    I don't get 'go away Hillary'  but the opinion is that she will run and lose - that was a choice in the poll but no one chose it.  Instead people are telling her to go away. Why should she disappear from view? It's how people have treated her for her entire life in the the public eye. 

    I would never feel sorry for any politician in this day and age who rose to the level she did.  You don't get there by shaking hands and kissing babies.  You make backroom deals and sell people/country out for campaign donations.
    I never said to feel sorry for her, I just don't understand the hostility. Instead of choosing 'She will run but lose, not got nominated" etc, which were all choices that were expressed in posts, people  chose 'go away Hilary' in the poll.

    She's a political animal, highly ambitious, she's made deals. Now choose which of the choices that you really believe. 

    I just find the overwhelming 'Go away' sentiment to be distasteful. That's just my opinion. 

    Many Dems, including me, are screaming for her to go away because Trumps best path to four more years is for her to win the nomination.

    Many 2016 observers warned her that she was not connecting with voters, that drawing at best crowds of 5000 with plenty of empty seats, by not being able to cast a clear message, that by not having a clear and concise explanation for her email controversy, that by lecturing voters " he is not qualified" all of this is no way to win a general election.

    And she told those worried back in 2016 that despite the polls she was in grave danger of losing...her team told everyone concerned that trump was actually going to win, she told them all to STFU. Typical clinton smugness.

    So yeah, after losing 2016 and doing significant harm to our country, go away Hillary. You are where you are because your Husband knows how to connect with voters, not you.

    I voted for her and I'm not screaming for her to go away....how ridiculous.

    She got 3 million more votes than that idiot.  She lost by 77,000 votes in three states thanks to Comey.

    She isn't running.  

    Perhaps understanding a metaphor will help understand why some are Figuratively screaming at Hillary.

    Running up the popular vote in NY & CA is meaningless and citing that may be ridiculous

    Not connecting with voters in those 3 states mentioned turned out to be the most meaningful fail that will impact the Supreme Court for 40 years.
    Yeah it's amazing people make that argument. I made that argument for Gore in 2000...but I was only 16-years-old. It's amazing to see grown adults who can make a dozens of arguments about why Trump shouldn't be president, settle on that one.

    I'm of the belief (as many are) that the system needs changing. I'm not suggesting abolishing the electoral college. But the "winner-take-all" aspect of it is flawed. I think the electoral votes of each state should be split depending on how big of a percentage you of the state's vote you win. Or, each congressional district in a state could have their own amount of votes. This way, the candidates would have to campaign in California and Texas because putting a dent in your opponent's margin in those states would matter. Presidential candidates don't stop in Dallas or Los Angeles at all, yet they'll campaign in Scranton, PA a dozen times. That's a broken system. 
    I would say that the sign of a broken system is that apparently where a person lives makes their vote less important as another vote.  I don't think its unfair to say that a vote in NY or CA should count the same as a vote in Alabama. 
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,987
    She isnt running.
    ^^^ Agreed, it's an insane system.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited November 2018
    Go away Hillary
    Good ol' Hillary shifting on migration? Sounds like she doesnt think it's such a hot idea anymore

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/22/world/europe/hillary-clinton-migration-populism-europe.html

    She's coming for 2020
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    She isnt running.
    my2hands said:
    Good ol' Hillary shifting on migration? Sounds like she doesnt think it's such a hot idea anymore

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/22/world/europe/hillary-clinton-migration-populism-europe.html

    She's coming for 2020
    it's not a shift. europe's issues are much different than america's with regards to immigration. 
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited November 2018
    Go away Hillary
    Oh, it's a shift. Thinning daylight between her and you know who.

    It's front page of the times brother
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Go away Hillary

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