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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    So why does Portland allow it to happen?
    Allow what to happen? About a month ago the cops directed all their energy at the counter protesters when the white supremacists came town to put on their show. I don’t know the cops involvement in this particular incident. From what I can tell, protesters had the street blocked and asked the driver to take a right turn to avoid where they were. It looks likenhe decided to drive through the crowd anyway, which could be considered assault.  
    I wouldn’t consider the driver’s actions assault...the people beating on his car and threatening him with violence though...
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    unsung said:
    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    And yet I haven’t heard any denounce them.  Maxine?  Hillary?  Bernie?  Alexandria?  
    Why do they need to?  Same stuff’s been happening in the Northwest for 25+ years. You’ve been made fearful because someone labeled it antifa
    I’m slightly fearful because what they have become is the paramilitary wing of the Democrat Party and continue to operate with no restrictions.
    :lol:
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    PJPOWER said:
    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    So why does Portland allow it to happen?
    Allow what to happen? About a month ago the cops directed all their energy at the counter protesters when the white supremacists came town to put on their show. I don’t know the cops involvement in this particular incident. From what I can tell, protesters had the street blocked and asked the driver to take a right turn to avoid where they were. It looks likenhe decided to drive through the crowd anyway, which could be considered assault.  
    I wouldn’t consider the driver’s actions assault...the people beating on his car and threatening him with violence though...
    I’ve only seen two clips, one before and one where the guy is on the hood of the car. If people are in the road, you can’t drive at them and create a situation where if they don’t move you’re going to keep driving and hit them. I guess you can but it’s illegal. 
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,988
    edited October 2018
    Go Beavers said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    So why does Portland allow it to happen?
    Allow what to happen? About a month ago the cops directed all their energy at the counter protesters when the white supremacists came town to put on their show. I don’t know the cops involvement in this particular incident. From what I can tell, protesters had the street blocked and asked the driver to take a right turn to avoid where they were. It looks likenhe decided to drive through the crowd anyway, which could be considered assault.  
    I wouldn’t consider the driver’s actions assault...the people beating on his car and threatening him with violence though...
    I’ve only seen two clips, one before and one where the guy is on the hood of the car. If people are in the road, you can’t drive at them and create a situation where if they don’t move you’re going to keep driving and hit them. I guess you can but it’s illegal. 
    Of course you can't. Just plowing people down in your car because they are in your way is not legal or justified, lol. Sounds like the guy had a detour route too. He just let his assholery control him. Only a dickhead wouldn't just say, "ah fuck!" and go around the protest.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,304
    unsung said:
    Someone needs to look up “strawman”.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siiNiX5-zAk

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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Go Beavers said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    So why does Portland allow it to happen?
    Allow what to happen? About a month ago the cops directed all their energy at the counter protesters when the white supremacists came town to put on their show. I don’t know the cops involvement in this particular incident. From what I can tell, protesters had the street blocked and asked the driver to take a right turn to avoid where they were. It looks likenhe decided to drive through the crowd anyway, which could be considered assault.  
    I wouldn’t consider the driver’s actions assault...the people beating on his car and threatening him with violence though...
    I’ve only seen two clips, one before and one where the guy is on the hood of the car. If people are in the road, you can’t drive at them and create a situation where if they don’t move you’re going to keep driving and hit them. I guess you can but it’s illegal. 
    I saw a clip where the protester was pushing against the front of the car and leaning forward as if he was going to be able to stop the car from creeping forward. The dingleberry should have just stepped out of the way. The driver was going very slowly and clearly just trying to get out of harm's way. Once said dingleberry was out of the way, the car sped off. I know I wouldn't want to be in a vehicle and surrounded by a mob of people from either side, regardless of my feelings about a particular cause or protest. Mobs do stupid things. A yuge mob voted for our Grifter-in-Chief. I don't trust mobs.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    I love Brian Lux
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    unsung said:
    Someone needs to look up “strawman”.
    Let us know once you've had a chance, in case you still need someone to explain it to you
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,304
    edited October 2018
    my2hands said:
    I love Brian Lux
    Lou was right, children aren't the only ones who blush.  :smile:

    Cheers, m2h! 
    Post edited by brianlux on
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    This thread is comedy gold.
    The next time a libertarian nutjob shoots a couple hundred people we will be all ears waiting for Unsung's swift condemnation and call for action.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,365
    Where’s the condemnation from our condemnator-in-Chief? Wonderful repub party you’ve got there, normalizing thuggery.

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,301
    oh yeah Palin and her crosshairs ads.....
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    I'm in Cherokee NF and the crickets are deafening in comparison to @unsung and his totally non-partisan condemnation of the violent acts of his friends, the Proud Boys.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,301
    edited October 2018
    funny this popped up on my radar.......

    tell me again about civility op?


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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    rgambs said:
    I'm in Cherokee NF and the crickets are deafening in comparison to @unsung and his totally non-partisan condemnation of the violent acts of his friends, the Proud Boys.
    You’re in Cherokee NF and you think about coming on here to tag me to a thread?..  Holy cow thanks for the laugh, I feel like I should pay you rent for living in your head.

    I was in Yosemite a month ago and if someone would have told me that rgambs said blah blah I would have laughed and asked who?

    BTW, defense of violence from Antifa terrorists is completely justifiable.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said: 
    rgambs said:
    I'm in Cherokee NF and the crickets are deafening in comparison to @unsung and his totally non-partisan condemnation of the violent acts of his friends, the Proud Boys.
    You’re in Cherokee NF and you think about coming on here to tag me to a thread?..  Holy cow thanks for the laugh, I feel like I should pay you rent for living in your head.

    I was in Yosemite a month ago and if someone would have told me that rgambs said blah blah I would have laughed and asked who?

    BTW, defense of violence from Antifa terrorists is completely justifiable.
    Don't get too excited lol
    It was 4am and I was having trouble getting back to sleep.

    "Defense"
    LOL that's a good one!
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,752
    unsung said:
    rgambs said:
    I'm in Cherokee NF and the crickets are deafening in comparison to @unsung and his totally non-partisan condemnation of the violent acts of his friends, the Proud Boys.
    You’re in Cherokee NF and you think about coming on here to tag me to a thread?..  Holy cow thanks for the laugh, I feel like I should pay you rent for living in your head.

    I was in Yosemite a month ago and if someone would have told me that rgambs said blah blah I would have laughed and asked who?

    BTW, defense of violence from Antifa terrorists is completely justifiable.

    Yosemite should be buldozed and sold to entrepreneurs to build factories.

    Why TF should taxpayers finance the pleasure of others?

    Socialist nonsense.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Nobody here has suggested that.  Thanks for playing though.
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    unsung said:
    rgambs said:
    I'm in Cherokee NF and the crickets are deafening in comparison to @unsung and his totally non-partisan condemnation of the violent acts of his friends, the Proud Boys.
    You’re in Cherokee NF and you think about coming on here to tag me to a thread?..  Holy cow thanks for the laugh, I feel like I should pay you rent for living in your head.

    I was in Yosemite a month ago and if someone would have told me that rgambs said blah blah I would have laughed and asked who?

    BTW, defense of violence from Antifa terrorists is completely justifiable.
    Stay out of my National Parks, fascist. 
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Everyone right of 1/1000 Fauxahontas is a racist and facist in 2018.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    Channeling a little Limbaugh there I see. 

    But you’re right, a fair number of people in that category are both of those things. 
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    rgambs said:
    I'm in Cherokee NF and the crickets are deafening in comparison to @unsung and his totally non-partisan condemnation of the violent acts of his friends, the Proud Boys.

    Crickets can be surprisingly loud. 
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,752
    unsung said:
    rgambs said:
    I'm in Cherokee NF and the crickets are deafening in comparison to @unsung and his totally non-partisan condemnation of the violent acts of his friends, the Proud Boys.
    You’re in Cherokee NF and you think about coming on here to tag me to a thread?..  Holy cow thanks for the laugh, I feel like I should pay you rent for living in your head.

    I was in Yosemite a month ago and if someone would have told me that rgambs said blah blah I would have laughed and asked who?

    BTW, defense of violence from Antifa terrorists is completely justifiable.

    Yosemite should be buldozed and sold to entrepreneurs to build factories.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    unsung said:
    rgambs said:
    I'm in Cherokee NF and the crickets are deafening in comparison to @unsung and his totally non-partisan condemnation of the violent acts of his friends, the Proud Boys.
    You’re in Cherokee NF and you think about coming on here to tag me to a thread?..  Holy cow thanks for the laugh, I feel like I should pay you rent for living in your head.

    I was in Yosemite a month ago and if someone would have told me that rgambs said blah blah I would have laughed and asked who?

    BTW, defense of violence from Antifa terrorists is completely justifiable.

    You should see your doctor about those memory issues. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,365
    Lerxst1992 said:
    unsung said:
    rgambs said:
    I'm in Cherokee NF and the crickets are deafening in comparison to @unsung and his totally non-partisan condemnation of the violent acts of his friends, the Proud Boys.
    You’re in Cherokee NF and you think about coming on here to tag me to a thread?..  Holy cow thanks for the laugh, I feel like I should pay you rent for living in your head.

    I was in Yosemite a month ago and if someone would have told me that rgambs said blah blah I would have laughed and asked who?

    BTW, defense of violence from Antifa terrorists is completely justifiable.

    Yosemite should be buldozed and sold to entrepreneurs to build factories.
    Or leased to the Bundy's so they can graze their cattle and not pay their leasing fees. Then demand all the buffalo be shot and killed because they're bringing diseases to their cattle. Then they can invite armed lunatics to keep the tourists and the big, bad gubmint away. Proud?
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,821
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    unsung said:
    rgambs said:
    I'm in Cherokee NF and the crickets are deafening in comparison to @unsung and his totally non-partisan condemnation of the violent acts of his friends, the Proud Boys.
    You’re in Cherokee NF and you think about coming on here to tag me to a thread?..  Holy cow thanks for the laugh, I feel like I should pay you rent for living in your head.

    I was in Yosemite a month ago and if someone would have told me that rgambs said blah blah I would have laughed and asked who?

    BTW, defense of violence from Antifa terrorists is completely justifiable.

    Yosemite should be buldozed and sold to entrepreneurs to build factories.
    Or leased to the Bundy's so they can graze their cattle and not pay their leasing fees. Then demand all the buffalo be shot and killed because they're bringing diseases to their cattle. Then they can invite armed lunatics to keep the tourists and the big, bad gubmint away. Proud?
    You forgot demanding the removal of all the dirtbag dope smoking climbers.
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