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unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
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https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/09/hillary-clinton-rejects-calls-for-civility-in-politics/

Is it now ok to initiate violence against someone simply because of their beliefs?
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Absolutely not
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,020
    I’m not surprised that you had to ask. With a link to the Daily Caller no less. Still scared of powerful women?
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    So, this the 2.0 version of the “Is this an attempt to normalize this behaviour?” thread?

    Nowhere in that statement is a call for violence. 


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,020
    oftenreading said:
    So, this the 2.0 version of the “Is this an attempt to normalize this behaviour?” thread?

    Nowhere in that statement is a call for violence. 


    Be afraid, be very afraid of those scary liberals, particularly if they’re women.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Hillary who?
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    Not being civil does not equate to being violent.   There is something called civil disobedience which is a great part of our American (and other places) history and tradition and we would do well to see more of that practiced today.   Civil disobedience, at its best, is practiced without violence.  There is a lot of history about that which kids and young adults would do well to learn today.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,763
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    oftenreading said:
    So, this the 2.0 version of the “Is this an attempt to normalize this behaviour?” thread?

    Nowhere in that statement is a call for violence. 


    Be afraid, be very afraid of those scary liberals, particularly if they’re women.
    You better be afraid of the incels
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    https://nypost.com/2018/10/09/wheres-the-outrage-over-hillarys-call-for-a-civil-war/?utm_campaign=iosapp&utm_source=facebook_app
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    edited October 2018
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-antifa-protesters-caught-on-video-bullying-elderly-motorist-woman-in-wheelchair

    More leftist violence...  errmagawd it is a fox news link.

    I’m sure they are fine people too.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,020
    unsung said:
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-antifa-protesters-caught-on-video-bullying-elderly-motorist-woman-in-wheelchair

    More leftist violence...  errmagawd it is a fox news link.

    I’m sure they are fine people too.
    Have you heard any liberal or dem leaders call them that? Keep projecting and spreading your fear.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    And yet I haven’t heard any denounce them.  Maxine?  Hillary?  Bernie?  Alexandria?  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,020
    unsung said:
    And yet I haven’t heard any denounce them.  Maxine?  Hillary?  Bernie?  Alexandria?  
    Why don't you go and ask Hillary yourself, unless you're scared? Nice projection on your part. I haven't heard Team trump Treason condemn Little Rocket Man or Saudi Arabia or any dictator, really. Guess you love them all? For their humanity? 

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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,763
    We currently have an authoritarian government aiming for a dictatorship.
    People who are racist, anti-immigrant xenophobes happily  support such a government and feel that that they are being patriotic Americans.  When in actuality they are anti-constitution, anti-bill of rights, and anti-american.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Yeah, 2008-2016 was all about the Constitution.

    Maybe Trump needs to bribe Iran to fit in.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,525
    unsung said:
    Yeah, 2008-2016 was all about the Constitution.

    Maybe Trump needs to bribe Iran to fit in.
    how about we start by getting all the kids that the baffoon and his administration separated and now will put up for adoption where's your outrage about this oh i forget they are brown and their parents acted illegally ....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Win an election and you can determine immigration policy.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,085
    unsung said:
    And yet I haven’t heard any denounce them.  Maxine?  Hillary?  Bernie?  Alexandria?  
    Why do they need to?  Same stuff’s been happening in the Northwest for 25+ years. You’ve been made fearful because someone labeled it antifa
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    So why does Portland allow it to happen?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,020
    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    And yet I haven’t heard any denounce them.  Maxine?  Hillary?  Bernie?  Alexandria?  
    Why do they need to?  Same stuff’s been happening in the Northwest for 25+ years. You’ve been made fearful because someone labeled it antifa
    And they wear black. Now, if they wore white with hoods? Nary a peep.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited October 2018
    unsung said:
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-antifa-protesters-caught-on-video-bullying-elderly-motorist-woman-in-wheelchair

    More leftist violence...  errmagawd it is a fox news link.

    I’m sure they are fine people too.
    Some truly deplorable little asshats there.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    And yet I haven’t heard any denounce them.  Maxine?  Hillary?  Bernie?  Alexandria?  
    Why do they need to?  Same stuff’s been happening in the Northwest for 25+ years. You’ve been made fearful because someone labeled it antifa
    And they wear black. Now, if they wore white with hoods? Nary a peep.
    Strawman anyone?
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    unsung said:
    And yet I haven’t heard any denounce them.  Maxine?  Hillary?  Bernie?  Alexandria?  
    Might I suggest hearing aids?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,020
    unsung said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    And yet I haven’t heard any denounce them.  Maxine?  Hillary?  Bernie?  Alexandria?  
    Why do they need to?  Same stuff’s been happening in the Northwest for 25+ years. You’ve been made fearful because someone labeled it antifa
    And they wear black. Now, if they wore white with hoods? Nary a peep.
    Strawman anyone?
    Like Hillary or RBG is for you? Hardly. But what’s the death count again between left and right? You know, abortion doctors murdered in their churches, standing at their kitchen window, Oklahoma City and McVeigh, Eric Rudolph and Atlanta Olympics and let’s not forget “fine people on both sides” Charlottesville. Care to post the score?                                      
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    And yet I haven’t heard any denounce them.  Maxine?  Hillary?  Bernie?  Alexandria?  
    Why do they need to?  Same stuff’s been happening in the Northwest for 25+ years. You’ve been made fearful because someone labeled it antifa
    I’m slightly fearful because what they have become is the paramilitary wing of the Democrat Party and continue to operate with no restrictions.
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    unsung said:
    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    And yet I haven’t heard any denounce them.  Maxine?  Hillary?  Bernie?  Alexandria?  
    Why do they need to?  Same stuff’s been happening in the Northwest for 25+ years. You’ve been made fearful because someone labeled it antifa
    I’m slightly fearful because what they have become is the paramilitary wing of the Democrat Party and continue to operate with no restrictions.
    Not fearful here.  They cannot even direct traffic...
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    unsung said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    And yet I haven’t heard any denounce them.  Maxine?  Hillary?  Bernie?  Alexandria?  
    Why do they need to?  Same stuff’s been happening in the Northwest for 25+ years. You’ve been made fearful because someone labeled it antifa
    And they wear black. Now, if they wore white with hoods? Nary a peep.
    Strawman anyone?

  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Someone needs to look up “strawman”.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,085
    unsung said:
    So why does Portland allow it to happen?
    Allow what to happen? About a month ago the cops directed all their energy at the counter protesters when the white supremacists came town to put on their show. I don’t know the cops involvement in this particular incident. From what I can tell, protesters had the street blocked and asked the driver to take a right turn to avoid where they were. It looks likenhe decided to drive through the crowd anyway, which could be considered assault.  
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,085
    unsung said:
    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    And yet I haven’t heard any denounce them.  Maxine?  Hillary?  Bernie?  Alexandria?  
    Why do they need to?  Same stuff’s been happening in the Northwest for 25+ years. You’ve been made fearful because someone labeled it antifa
    I’m slightly fearful because what they have become is the paramilitary wing of the Democrat Party and continue to operate with no restrictions.
    Paramilitary wing? You’re just trolling at this point. These folks are hardly organized and you think they oart of the democratic party? They’d tell any party to go screw themselves. Do you get your news off 4Chan or something?
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