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  • my2hands
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    Kat said:
    I'm thinking president thug actually cares more about kavanaugh's stand on the imperial presidency so he can get away with whatever he wants before the courts. I have to believe that other court justices wouldn't all stand with kavanaugh though. No one can be above the law...we have to believe in that....my big hope.
    I agree, but Trump isnt the only person that would love an imperial POTUS
  • unsung
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    Obama is certainly one.
  • unsung said:
    Obama is certainly one.
    Evidenced how?
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    edited October 2018
    unsung said:
    Obama is certainly one.
    Have you seen the video I linked for you? 
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  • my2hands said:
    Kat said:
    I'm thinking president thug actually cares more about kavanaugh's stand on the imperial presidency so he can get away with whatever he wants before the courts. I have to believe that other court justices wouldn't all stand with kavanaugh though. No one can be above the law...we have to believe in that....my big hope.
    I agree, but Trump isnt the only person that would love an imperial POTUS
    Yea, it’s not like the Team Mueller investigation of Team Trump Treason isn’t going to expose the RNC, the NRA and many prominent repubs and their knowing collusion with a foreign power to throw an election. And it’s got everything worth protecting: money, sex, powerful organizations and individuals and democracy. Who wouldn’t want a SCJ who’ll ensure evidence is protected by “Executive Privilege?” 5-4 keeps the russia russia russia coup d’ etat in place.
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  • tbergs
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    edited October 2018
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • benjs
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    unsung said:
    Obama is certainly one.
    Evidenced how?
    This is in line with the expansion of presidential power I had read about under the Obama administration: http://fortune.com/2017/01/18/obama-trump-abuse-executive-powers-presidency/ 

    While these Obama-issued changes don't represent a pursuit of authoritarianism necessarily, and while it can be argued (though I won't argue) that Obama's aims may have been pure or noble, expanding presidential powers makes the risk of a sitting president exploiting that powerful position that much greater. While less politically convenient, it does not bode well for the permanence of a democratic institution to concentrate power even more than it already is, and it erodes the facade of a functional democracy. 
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  • benjs said:
    unsung said:
    Obama is certainly one.
    Evidenced how?
    This is in line with the expansion of presidential power I had read about under the Obama administration: http://fortune.com/2017/01/18/obama-trump-abuse-executive-powers-presidency/ 

    While these Obama-issued changes don't represent a pursuit of authoritarianism necessarily, and while it can be argued (though I won't argue) that Obama's aims may have been pure or noble, expanding presidential powers makes the risk of a sitting president exploiting that powerful position that much greater. While less politically convenient, it does not bode well for the permanence of a democratic institution to concentrate power even more than it already is, and it erodes the facade of a functional democracy. 
    While I tend to agree to some degree, the Bush Administration took the lid off of pandora’s Box with the acquiescence of Congress while Obama literally had his hands tied by, “our number one priority is to see this president fail.” Does it make what Obama did right? I’m not sure in the sense that there are degrees and context for everything and nothing is black and white. What I see now is a desire to expand executive power to a singular mean, to protect a president from an ongoing investigation where he may or may not be a target of the ongoing investigation by appointing a clearly partisan SCJ who has expressed his view that the executive’s powers are so sweeping as to reign supreme. Obama may have interpreted his executive power in a certain way but he certainly didn’t try to stack the court to prevent his expansion from being challenged or even the legitimacy of what he was doing. Big difference. And again, the repubs weaken our civil liberties, using 9/11 as the pretext and the libs get blamed and tarred and feathered with it. Anyone remember who prevented turd blossom and darth Cheney from having AG Ashcroft on his deathbed renew FISA without further congressional review at expiration?
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  • ^^^^^^ And Team Trump Treason and his repub congress could fix all those ills right now and be a hero to all lefties and libertarians but good luck with that. It’s easier and more politically expedient to blame Obama.
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  • tbergs said:
    Buh buh buh he was a thespian and the good lord knows we can’t have any of THOSE on the court.
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  • Kat
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    There must be something really bad in the reports. The only thing I can think of is that it's more cover-up.

    Mitch McConnell Says FBI’s Kavanaugh Report Won’t Be Made Public
    Democrats say the American people should see the results before the full Senate votes on the Supreme Court nominee.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mitch-mcconnell-fbi-kavanaugh-report-public_us_5bb3c909e4b0876eda992325
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • Kat said:
    There must be something really bad in the reports. The only thing I can think of is that it's more cover-up.

    Mitch McConnell Says FBI’s Kavanaugh Report Won’t Be Made Public
    Democrats say the American people should see the results before the full Senate votes on the Supreme Court nominee.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mitch-mcconnell-fbi-kavanaugh-report-public_us_5bb3c909e4b0876eda992325
    Why be so desperate to confirm Kavanaugh? Who paid off his debts, I wonder? Something really smells badly. Like really badly. Must be another Clinton conspiracy.
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  • Kat said:
    There must be something really bad in the reports. The only thing I can think of is that it's more cover-up.

    Mitch McConnell Says FBI’s Kavanaugh Report Won’t Be Made Public
    Democrats say the American people should see the results before the full Senate votes on the Supreme Court nominee.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mitch-mcconnell-fbi-kavanaugh-report-public_us_5bb3c909e4b0876eda992325
    Why be so desperate to confirm Kavanaugh? Who paid off his debts, I wonder? Something really smells badly. Like really badly. Must be another Clinton conspiracy.

    Like Pizzagate? Or maybe a really juicy one like sex slaves on Mars?

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    This entire fiasco is just obscene.
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  • Kat said:
    There must be something really bad in the reports. The only thing I can think of is that it's more cover-up.

    Mitch McConnell Says FBI’s Kavanaugh Report Won’t Be Made Public
    Democrats say the American people should see the results before the full Senate votes on the Supreme Court nominee.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mitch-mcconnell-fbi-kavanaugh-report-public_us_5bb3c909e4b0876eda992325
    Why be so desperate to confirm Kavanaugh? Who paid off his debts, I wonder? Something really smells badly. Like really badly. Must be another Clinton conspiracy.

    Like Pizzagate? Or maybe a really juicy one like sex slaves on Mars?

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    This entire fiasco is just obscene.
    It could be as simple as the D Team is in charge within the Team Trump Treason Administration and it’s par for the course. But me thinks McConnell is trying to hide something.
     
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  • tbergs
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    edited October 2018
    Kat said:
    There must be something really bad in the reports. The only thing I can think of is that it's more cover-up.

    Mitch McConnell Says FBI’s Kavanaugh Report Won’t Be Made Public
    Democrats say the American people should see the results before the full Senate votes on the Supreme Court nominee.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mitch-mcconnell-fbi-kavanaugh-report-public_us_5bb3c909e4b0876eda992325
    Why be so desperate to confirm Kavanaugh? Who paid off his debts, I wonder? Something really smells badly. Like really badly. Must be another Clinton conspiracy.

    Like Pizzagate? Or maybe a really juicy one like sex slaves on Mars?

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    This entire fiasco is just obscene.
    It could be as simple as the D Team is in charge within the Team Trump Treason Administration and it’s par for the course. But me thinks McConnell is trying to hide something.
     
    If they don't make it public, someone will definitely leak it anyway. So ridiculous that we the people are being kept in the dark about a lifetime appointment that impacts the entire country and could influence global decisions as well.

    I still don't understand why any further discovery really needs to be made after all the blatant lies about his past and the overly partisan diatribe he gave as an opening statement. Most publicly biased judge to sit on the bench.
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    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    edited October 2018
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,551
    They are gonna sweep this under the rug the investigation is a sham , the Baffoon & GOP believe this country is full of idiots ! 
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,399
    You only go that route if you know the vote is going to be yes for confirmation, but people love Trump so much that they send him fan mail with extra goodies included.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,406
    At this point, does anyone doubt that he will be confirmed?