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  • "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    dignin said:

    Every time Ford and Kavanaugh dodged a question, in one chart

    There was a striking difference in style — and substance.

    We went through the transcript of the hearing and noted every single time a question was asked of Ford and Kavanaugh. (We didn’t include the times a questioner didn’t ask an explicit question.) Then we noted every instance in which answered the question or said they didn’t know the answer — and we also noted every time they either refused to answer or gave an answer that didn’t address the question. Here are the results:


    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/28/17914308/kavanaugh-ford-question-dodge-hearing-chart


    It's a shame this has to be reduced to flashy colorful chart, but I'm beginning to realize they only way to communicate with conservatives is with pictures. 
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    CM189191 said:
    dignin said:

    Every time Ford and Kavanaugh dodged a question, in one chart

    There was a striking difference in style — and substance.

    We went through the transcript of the hearing and noted every single time a question was asked of Ford and Kavanaugh. (We didn’t include the times a questioner didn’t ask an explicit question.) Then we noted every instance in which answered the question or said they didn’t know the answer — and we also noted every time they either refused to answer or gave an answer that didn’t address the question. Here are the results:


    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/28/17914308/kavanaugh-ford-question-dodge-hearing-chart


    It's a shame this has to be reduced to flashy colorful chart, but I'm beginning to realize they only way to communicate with conservatives is with pictures. 
    Thanks for posting the chart. It's interesting to see the difference between a real honest human being and a political hack.
  • mickeyrat
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    Trump caved........
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    Trump caved........
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  • Gern Blansten
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    Yeah what was it a week ago when tRump said that the FBI didn't want to mess with this?  What a fucking piece of shit.


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  • CM189191
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    Yeah what was it a week ago when tRump said that the FBI didn't want to mess with this?  What a fucking piece of shit.


    No matter. FBI is not a trial. They don't prosecute or even make a recommendation.  The report will read "he said, she said". Congress with proceed with approval stating "the FBI has not determined Mr Kavanaugh to be guilty of any crimes (because that's not they're fucking job here)". 
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  • CM189191 said:


    Spot on. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,497
    CM189191 said:
    Yeah what was it a week ago when tRump said that the FBI didn't want to mess with this?  What a fucking piece of shit.


    No matter. FBI is not a trial. They don't prosecute or even make a recommendation.  The report will read "he said, she said". Congress with proceed with approval stating "the FBI has not determined Mr Kavanaugh to be guilty of any crimes (because that's not they're fucking job here)". 
    No matter? If Judge contradicts Kavanaugh's story it will certainly matter.
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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
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  • CM189191
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    CM189191 said:
    Yeah what was it a week ago when tRump said that the FBI didn't want to mess with this?  What a fucking piece of shit.


    No matter. FBI is not a trial. They don't prosecute or even make a recommendation.  The report will read "he said, she said". Congress with proceed with approval stating "the FBI has not determined Mr Kavanaugh to be guilty of any crimes (because that's not they're fucking job here)". 
    No matter? If Judge contradicts Kavanaugh's story it will certainly matter.
    There are already 100 reasons why Kavanaugh is unqualified.  What's one more.

    Conservatives have already decided they're going to push this nomination through.  Otherwise they could have withdrawn. 

    What is it with this particular nominee that had their unfettered support? I'm sure there are hundreds of qualified conservatives judges who haven't been accused of rape.  Why kavanaugh?  There's something else going on here....
  • CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Yeah what was it a week ago when tRump said that the FBI didn't want to mess with this?  What a fucking piece of shit.


    No matter. FBI is not a trial. They don't prosecute or even make a recommendation.  The report will read "he said, she said". Congress with proceed with approval stating "the FBI has not determined Mr Kavanaugh to be guilty of any crimes (because that's not they're fucking job here)". 
    No matter? If Judge contradicts Kavanaugh's story it will certainly matter.
    There are already 100 reasons why Kavanaugh is unqualified.  What's one more.

    Conservatives have already decided they're going to push this nomination through.  Otherwise they could have withdrawn. 

    What is it with this particular nominee that had their unfettered support? I'm sure there are hundreds of qualified conservatives judges who haven't been accused of rape.  Why kavanaugh?  There's something else going on here....
    To protect Team Trump Treason. His speeches before the Heritage Foundation regularly spoke to his belief of extreme executive privilege. Believes a sitting president can’t be indicted, despite believing the opposite when Clinton was in office, a sitting president can’t be subpoenaed to testify before a grand jury and basically no legal action against the president can be taken while in office because his duties are too important and they wouldn’t be able to faithfully execute them if they had to simultaneously defend themselves. That and Roe v Wade is not a settled matter. The fix is in.
     
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  • eddiec
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    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Yeah what was it a week ago when tRump said that the FBI didn't want to mess with this?  What a fucking piece of shit.


    No matter. FBI is not a trial. They don't prosecute or even make a recommendation.  The report will read "he said, she said". Congress with proceed with approval stating "the FBI has not determined Mr Kavanaugh to be guilty of any crimes (because that's not they're fucking job here)". 
    No matter? If Judge contradicts Kavanaugh's story it will certainly matter.
    There are already 100 reasons why Kavanaugh is unqualified.  What's one more.

    Conservatives have already decided they're going to push this nomination through.  Otherwise they could have withdrawn. 

    What is it with this particular nominee that had their unfettered support? I'm sure there are hundreds of qualified conservatives judges who haven't been accused of rape.  Why kavanaugh?  There's something else going on here....
    He hates the Clinton's with such passion that he included his hatred in his opening statement.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    I agree it's Trump. Trump isn't going to let go of this, just like he never lets go of anything when he's caught in a lie or a mistake; he just doubles down. Then triples down. 
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  • "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,973
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Yeah what was it a week ago when tRump said that the FBI didn't want to mess with this?  What a fucking piece of shit.


    No matter. FBI is not a trial. They don't prosecute or even make a recommendation.  The report will read "he said, she said". Congress with proceed with approval stating "the FBI has not determined Mr Kavanaugh to be guilty of any crimes (because that's not they're fucking job here)". 
    No matter? If Judge contradicts Kavanaugh's story it will certainly matter.
    There are already 100 reasons why Kavanaugh is unqualified.  What's one more.

    Conservatives have already decided they're going to push this nomination through.  Otherwise they could have withdrawn. 

    What is it with this particular nominee that had their unfettered support? I'm sure there are hundreds of qualified conservatives judges who haven't been accused of rape.  Why kavanaugh?  There's something else going on here....
    To protect Team Trump Treason. His speeches before the Heritage Foundation regularly spoke to his belief of extreme executive privilege. Believes a sitting president can’t be indicted, despite believing the opposite when Clinton was in office, a sitting president can’t be subpoenaed to testify before a grand jury and basically no legal action against the president can be taken while in office because his duties are too important and they wouldn’t be able to faithfully execute them if they had to simultaneously defend themselves. That and Roe v Wade is not a settled matter. The fix is in.
     
    Still.... They couldn't find another judge with bonafide conservative credentials who hasn't tried to rape someone?  

    Or is attempted rape just another qualification for Republicans to run for office now? 
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,536
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Yeah what was it a week ago when tRump said that the FBI didn't want to mess with this?  What a fucking piece of shit.


    No matter. FBI is not a trial. They don't prosecute or even make a recommendation.  The report will read "he said, she said". Congress with proceed with approval stating "the FBI has not determined Mr Kavanaugh to be guilty of any crimes (because that's not they're fucking job here)". 
    No matter? If Judge contradicts Kavanaugh's story it will certainly matter.
    There are already 100 reasons why Kavanaugh is unqualified.  What's one more.

    Conservatives have already decided they're going to push this nomination through.  Otherwise they could have withdrawn. 

    What is it with this particular nominee that had their unfettered support? I'm sure there are hundreds of qualified conservatives judges who haven't been accused of rape.  Why kavanaugh?  There's something else going on here....
    To protect Team Trump Treason. His speeches before the Heritage Foundation regularly spoke to his belief of extreme executive privilege. Believes a sitting president can’t be indicted, despite believing the opposite when Clinton was in office, a sitting president can’t be subpoenaed to testify before a grand jury and basically no legal action against the president can be taken while in office because his duties are too important and they wouldn’t be able to faithfully execute them if they had to simultaneously defend themselves. That and Roe v Wade is not a settled matter. The fix is in.
     
    Still.... They couldn't find another judge with bonafide conservative credentials who hasn't tried to rape someone?  

    Or is attempted rape just another qualification for Republicans to run for office now? 
    He was chosen for the following reasons....

    1. Conservative 
    2. Pro life catholic
    3. Believes the president is above the law
  • CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Yeah what was it a week ago when tRump said that the FBI didn't want to mess with this?  What a fucking piece of shit.


    No matter. FBI is not a trial. They don't prosecute or even make a recommendation.  The report will read "he said, she said". Congress with proceed with approval stating "the FBI has not determined Mr Kavanaugh to be guilty of any crimes (because that's not they're fucking job here)". 
    No matter? If Judge contradicts Kavanaugh's story it will certainly matter.
    There are already 100 reasons why Kavanaugh is unqualified.  What's one more.

    Conservatives have already decided they're going to push this nomination through.  Otherwise they could have withdrawn. 

    What is it with this particular nominee that had their unfettered support? I'm sure there are hundreds of qualified conservatives judges who haven't been accused of rape.  Why kavanaugh?  There's something else going on here....
    To protect Team Trump Treason. His speeches before the Heritage Foundation regularly spoke to his belief of extreme executive privilege. Believes a sitting president can’t be indicted, despite believing the opposite when Clinton was in office, a sitting president can’t be subpoenaed to testify before a grand jury and basically no legal action against the president can be taken while in office because his duties are too important and they wouldn’t be able to faithfully execute them if they had to simultaneously defend themselves. That and Roe v Wade is not a settled matter. The fix is in.
     
    Still.... They couldn't find another judge with bonafide conservative credentials who hasn't tried to rape someone?  

    Or is attempted rape just another qualification for Republicans to run for office now? 
    He was chosen for the following reasons....

    1. Conservative 
    2. Pro life catholic
    3. Believes the president is above the law
    4. Likes beer
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"