Blackie Poster/Missing Link Questions

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  • DRintheHouse
    DRintheHouse Posts: 190
    edited September 2018
    SJD3232 said:
    Uncle Snuffy said:
    He purchased the poster in 2004 from its original owner who bought it from Missing Link.  
    He purchased the poster in 2004 from its original owner who bought it from Missing Link.  


    Sounds like you and your friend are both upstanding members of the community, and I'd not question that.  However, the sentence above is truly the "missing link" here.  Who vouches for original seller?  Who was original seller?  And if bought from "Missing Link Poster Shop", why would it not be S/N as indicated, and like other direct buyers received?  Was this after sales were halted, and on the sly?  Or could your friend have been taken advantage of, and slipped a reproduction?  Does any provenance exist for how originally acquired?  That's the unknown.  I'd love to be a buyer if comfortable with the history.  
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  • HH140540
    HH140540 Atlanta Posts: 576
    edited September 2018
    See the one on eBay for $10k?
  • SJD3232
    SJD3232 Posts: 2,203
    DRintheHouse said:
    SJD3232 said:
    Uncle Snuffy said:
    He purchased the poster in 2004 from its original owner who bought it from Missing Link.  
    Sounds like you and your friend are both upstanding members of the community, and I'd not question that.  However, the sentence above is truly the "missing link" here.  Who vouches for original seller?  Who was original seller?  And if bought from "Missing Link Poster Shop", why would it not be S/N as indicated, and like other direct buyers received?  Was this after sales were halted, and on the sly?  Or could your friend have been taken advantage of, and slipped a reproduction?  Does any provenance exist for how originally acquired?  That's the unknown.  I'd love to be a buyer if comfortable with the history.  
    Totally agree.  All of these would have to be answered to justify a 10k asking price. Even then, it’s about $5-6k high IMO.
  • Mattchew
    Mattchew Posts: 1,345
    Uncle Snuffy said:
    Hi everyone.  Uncle Snuffy here.  As you may or may not know I am selling off my busdy’s entire collection...which inclueds the Blackie.  He purchased the poster in 2004 from its original owner who bought it from Missing Link.  I am honest and reputable.  I would never try to sell a fake or bootleg anything.  I believe you can even check my past posts on the forum referencing his poster over the years. 

    I personally own a signed/numbered Blackie.  So before I listed his I did a side by side comparison.  I’m no licensed art appraiser but in my opinion the paper, ink, texture, image, etc is all correct/legit. 

    i have 100% positive eBay feedback. My buddy has 100% positive eBay feedback.  We have both been PJ fans from the start and collecting since then as well.  In the future I will be listing fan club mailings from the early ‘90s.  That’s how far back he goes. 

    My friend said he’d be happy to speak with anyone about the poster.  His name is Tony K.  Forum ID is bustout.   eBay id is bustout7676.  And he said he’d even be ok giving out his phone # ‭(773) 573-3238‬.  Feel free to contact him.  TK is a stand up guy and a great friend of mine.

    Thanks for allowing me the opportunity to address any concerns you may have.  And for those of you also on Facebook please feel free to share this information over there as well.

    Thanks

    Uncle Snuffy 
    Wow, thanks for sharing Uncle Snuffy!  Very cool poster!
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,955
    HH140540 said:
    See the one on eBay for $10k?
    Wow! That’s crazy?!?

    How much is the one offered here?
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  • Release EV
    Release EV Posts: 2,077
    How many were released again?
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Release EV said:
    How many were released again?
    125 supposedly.
  • DRintheHouse
    DRintheHouse Posts: 190
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Release EV said:
    How many were released again?
    125 supposedly.
    Most indications are that 20-35 made it out of the shop (based on sequence #'s people received) before sales were halted.  Unknown where the remainder ended up...
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,321
    DRintheHouse said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Release EV said:
    How many were released again?
    125 supposedly.
    Most indications are that 20-35 made it out of the shop (based on sequence #'s people received) before sales were halted.  Unknown where the remainder ended up...
    Ames either destroyed them or (more likely) put them in storage.

    Never understood the fascination with these - yes, they’re rare but they aren’t official and weren’t created for the shows.
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    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • Dead Man Walking
    Dead Man Walking Toronto-ish Posts: 2,762
    tempo_n_groove said:
    @Dead Man Walking
    Ummmm yes?
  • madhat181
    madhat181 Posts: 373
    I love all this deep poster info. Does anyone know the history of why the sales of the poster were halted ?
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    100 Pacer said:
    DRintheHouse said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Release EV said:
    How many were released again?
    125 supposedly.
    Most indications are that 20-35 made it out of the shop (based on sequence #'s people received) before sales were halted.  Unknown where the remainder ended up...
    Ames either destroyed them or (more likely) put them in storage.

    Never understood the fascination with these - yes, they’re rare but they aren’t official and weren’t created for the shows.
    I’m only fascinated wth Pittsburgh because it was my first show and I really like the art. Love karting! And while it may not be official, it does appear on the Tour page listing for that show. (But Atlanta & Chicago do not.)
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  • wecrazybob
    wecrazybob Posts: 1,027
    If it's fan art why is it listed on  Pearljam.com
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  • CopperTom
    CopperTom Posts: 3,149
    Pittsburgh was officially made, just not officially released because of the typo.  
    http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=28
  • DRintheHouse
    DRintheHouse Posts: 190
    edited September 2018
    madhat181 said:
    I love all this deep poster info. Does anyone know the history of why the sales of the poster were halted ?
    My guess is that the gun imagery on the Blackie was the reason it was halted.  3 posters, one with a gun and another misspelled, so I think they bailed on the idea.

    The band does take issue with certain images.  Examples:  The original Randall's 96 design had some drug imagery on it, and I suspect that's why that one was nixed.  And the Merriweather 96 originally had nudity on it, hence why there's the awkwardly placed shell over the mermaid.
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  • wecrazybob
    wecrazybob Posts: 1,027
    CopperTom said:
    Pittsburgh was officially made, just not officially released because of the typo.  
    first time I have heard this, is this a guess or did you find out some how?  What is the the connection between this artist and the other two?  
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  • wecrazybob
    wecrazybob Posts: 1,027
    DRintheHouse said:
    madhat181 said:
    I love all this deep poster info. Does anyone know the history of why the sales of the poster were halted ?
    My guess is that the gun imagery on the Blackie was the reason it was halted.  3 posters, one with a gun and another misspelled, so I think they bailed on the idea.

    The band does take issue with certain images.  Examples:  The original Randall's 96 design had some drug imagery on it, and I suspect that's why that one was nixed.  And the Merriweather 96 originally had nudity on it, hence why there's the awkwardly placed shell over the mermaid.
    No guns or misspelled words on the the Atlanta, it's a buet Clark!
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  • DRintheHouse
    DRintheHouse Posts: 190
    wecrazybob said:
    No guns or misspelled words on the the Atlanta, it's a buet Clark!
    The Atlanta show was 8/7/00.  The poster says 8/27/00 !!!  Missing Link Poster Shop went 3 for 3 on screwing up these posters!   =)=)=) 
  • wecrazybob
    wecrazybob Posts: 1,027
    DOH!
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    DRintheHouse said:
    wecrazybob said:
    No guns or misspelled words on the the Atlanta, it's a buet Clark!
    The Atlanta show was 8/7/00.  The poster says 8/27/00 !!!  Missing Link Poster Shop went 3 for 3 on screwing up these posters!   =)=)=) 
    I guess they're missing some links, huh?

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