Congrats to the Eagles!

Spiritual_Chaos

rgambs said:

I looked it up, Thriller is still number 1 worldwide, so MJ fans can relax lol

I was raised on Eagles so I'm biased (Victim of Love IS a slick-ass song, yo!), but putting that aside, I was always a little irked that the man with the best selling album wrote less than half of the songs on it, though his songs were the biggest hits of the album.

There's room in my world for both albums to coexist as masterworks, but I will always prefer music made by bonded bandmates playing instruments and singing and writing earnest songs.  The whole "studio creation" aspect of pop albums like Thriller doesn't produce less valuable art, but it's not my cup of tea.  
It's like George Martin and the Beatles, I sure wouldn't wish for a world where that collaboration never happened, but in the end I prefer the Beatles songs that have the least of his influence.  I like it when an analog music artists opens up and shares what's inside of them in an intimate, unadorned way.  Old-fashioned, I guess.

Atleast MJ isn't a poor mans CSN&Y with empty songs written just to... fill up an album.

Victim of Love is great.

Deserves to be posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEdld0TgzjI

PJ_Soul

rgambs said:

Hahaha that's absolutely ridiculous?  How can someone think Thriller is music perfection AND like Pearl Jam.

I have no idea how to respond to that.

rgambs

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

Hahaha that's absolutely ridiculous?  How can someone think Thriller is music perfection AND like Pearl Jam.

I have no idea how to respond to that.

It doesn't merit a response, I was just teasing you.  
It is a bit odd though, for such diametrically opposed styles of art and execution to be at the top of your list.

PJ_Soul

rgambs said:

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

Hahaha that's absolutely ridiculous?  How can someone think Thriller is music perfection AND like Pearl Jam.

I have no idea how to respond to that.

It doesn't merit a response, I was just teasing you.  
It is a bit odd though, for such diametrically opposed styles of art and execution to be at the top of your list.

My music tastes are pretty broad! ... Thriller is probably the most influential album of my entire life TBH. I'm pretty sure it literally triggered my lifelong love for music, at the age of six. I am proud to say that I still have the record that I bought with my allowance in 1982, and it is still in absolutely amazing condition. Not a scratch on it, despite the fact that I played it 500 times before I was 10, lol, and I still play it, and it still sounds incredible. Even the jacket and sleeves are in great shape. I guess I always treated my vinyl with care, haha.

F Me In The Brain

I vividly remember being 9 and at my best friend's house.  Thriller had been out for about a year and be had decided it was the best thing ever 
We were in his older sister's room and Matt played the record front to back, attempting to dance like he was Michael Jackson throughout

I begged him to put his sister's copy of Bark at The Moon or Pyromania on, but he insisted on playing Thriller again

I went home.

Put on my brother's Shout At The Devil record and thought about my need for a new best friend.  Anyone that would choose Michael Jackson over Heavy Metal was not for me 

I stayed best friends with him for a number of years but I should have trusted my judgement.  He dropped out of high school and was a full blown alcoholic by age 18.  I later learned that he bit his tongue off trying to detox one time.  

Hope he is ok now, but I stand by my choices.  Ozzy, Crue, and Def Leppard are all things I would gladly listen to now before Michael Jackson, based on music preference alone.

Bleh.

tempo_n_groove

F Me In The Brain said:

I vividly remember being 9 and at my best friend's house.  Thriller had been out for about a year and be had decided it was the best thing ever 
We were in his older sister's room and Matt played the record front to back, attempting to dance like he was Michael Jackson throughout

I begged him to put his sister's copy of Bark at The Moon or Pyromania on, but he insisted on playing Thriller again

I went home.

Put on my brother's Shout At The Devil record and thought about my need for a new best friend.  Anyone that would choose Michael Jackson over Heavy Metal was not for me 

I stayed best friends with him for a number of years but I should have trusted my judgement.  He dropped out of high school and was a full blown alcoholic by age 18.  I later learned that he bit his tongue off trying to detox one time.  

Hope he is ok now, but I stand by my choices.  Ozzy, Crue, and Def Leppard are all things I would gladly listen to now before Michael Jackson, based on music preference alone.

Bleh.

If you were to ask me whom went down the dark path, the Metal head or the Michael Jackson fan?  I pick the metal head every time, lol.

PJ_Soul

Oh man, that is a sad story!
.... I never particularly liked the 80s metal bands. I still don't, really. I can appreciate them, but they're still not really my cup of tea at all. I think the closest I ever really got to 80s metal was GnR, lol. Well, Metallica I guess too, but really I only like the Black album, which was both 90s and generally poo-poo'd by metal purists, hahaha ... And I think Ozzy's best work is Ozzmosis, that is a great album, so do what you will with that, lol, and thank god I've still got my tongue!!

tempo_n_groove

rgambs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

rgambs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

JK_Livin said: ki

tempo_n_groove said:

rgambs said:

The Eagles "Their Greatest Hits 1971-1974" passed Michael Jackson's "Thriller" as highest selling album ever!

People like that Hotel song that much?  Wow!

I don't think HC is on that album

Just had to check, it is not on there!

I'm not an Eagles fan so I'd have no clue.rgambs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

rgambs said:

The Eagles "Their Greatest Hits 1971-1974" passed Michael Jackson's "Thriller" as highest selling album ever!

People like that Hotel song that much?  Wow!

It could easily be asked, "people like that Halloween song that much?"

I have no idea what this means...

Thriller, duh lol

I've never heard it as a halloween song.  New to me.

Did you never listen to the lyrics about a night when monsters and evil spirits roam free or see the insanely popular music video (that mysteriously gets a ton of play in late October) where they dance a monster dance in monster costumes to the song about a night when monsters and evil spirits roam? lol

Again, no.  It was just lyrics akin to a scary movie and had Vincent Price to boot!

PJ_Soul

I got my parents to rent the movie Thriller for my 7th birthday party - it was awesome.

F Me In The Brain

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

I vividly remember being 9 and at my best friend's house.  Thriller had been out for about a year and be had decided it was the best thing ever 
We were in his older sister's room and Matt played the record front to back, attempting to dance like he was Michael Jackson throughout

I begged him to put his sister's copy of Bark at The Moon or Pyromania on, but he insisted on playing Thriller again

I went home.

Put on my brother's Shout At The Devil record and thought about my need for a new best friend.  Anyone that would choose Michael Jackson over Heavy Metal was not for me 

I stayed best friends with him for a number of years but I should have trusted my judgement.  He dropped out of high school and was a full blown alcoholic by age 18.  I later learned that he bit his tongue off trying to detox one time.  

Hope he is ok now, but I stand by my choices.  Ozzy, Crue, and Def Leppard are all things I would gladly listen to now before Michael Jackson, based on music preference alone.

Bleh.

If you were to ask me whom went down the dark path, the Metal head or the Michael Jackson fan?  I pick the metal head every time, lol.

I know, most people would pick that.

His family was a pile of steaming dogshit.  For real.  Poor kid had some serious cards stacked against him.

Liking Michael Jackson was just another door he was presented with on his path toward (most likely) a fucked up adulthood.

They had 4 kids and 1 of them did ok for themselves.  From what I know 1 is dead and 2 others are/were grease fires. 

F Me In The Brain

PJ_Soul said:

Oh man, that is a sad story!
.... I never particularly liked the 80s metal bands. I still don't, really. I can appreciate them, but they're still not really my cup of tea at all. I think the closest I ever really got to 80s metal was GnR, lol. Well, Metallica I guess too, but really I only like the Black album, which was both 90s and generally poo'd poo'd by metal purists, hahaha ... And I think Ozzy's best work is Ozzmosis, that is a great album, so do what you will with that, lol, and thank god I've still got my tongue!!

Understandable.  Even though PJ are my favorites I still listen to a lot (a lot!) of 80s metal music.  By genre depth it is my favorite.  I do not justify that beyond my own love and nostalgia for being a youngster so completely into music and loving the hell out of those records.

Totally understand others thinking it is goofy and I will cop to loving Klosterman's Fargo Rock City so much more because of his acceptance of his devotion to 80s metal wierdos.

tbergs

Spiritual_Chaos said:

I try to not congratulate people making naked 15 years olds  OD in their mansions.

But that song Victim of Love is the shit.

I was really confused after you mentioned Victim of Love, since it's on Vol. 2, which I consider superior to Vol. 1. I had this whole post started until I realized I was referencing the wrong album

Spiritual_Chaos

tbergs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

I try to not congratulate people making naked 15 years olds  OD in their mansions.

But that song Victim of Love is the shit.

I was really confused after you mentioned Victim of Love, since it's on Vol. 2, which I consider superior to Vol. 1. I had this whole post started until I realized I was referencing the wrong album

I don't know enough about their albums... I mostly listen to that live album that's on Spotify. And only been listening for a month or two since I saw the documentary. 

tbergs

I really enjoy Vol 1. and Thriller both. I would put Thriller above Vol. 1, but not Vol. 2. I love those 2 albums and so do our kids. I have both Vol. 1 and Thriller on vinyl. Eagles Vol. 2 is something that I loved to death after finding the cassette at my grandparents house in my aunt's old room when we were cleaning out their house when I was 12. That is an awesome album.

I could care less who is on top of an antiquated system. Sales like that will never happen again because of digital music. Thriller is a solid album front to back, which is a rare feat. Taking the greatest hits of a band is easier than one solid album  recorded at one time.

Shakescky

The Dude and I share the same feelings about the Eagles.

tempo_n_groove

Shakescky said:

The Dude and I share the same feelings about the Eagles.

In 1995-6 you couldn't get away from Hotel California.  EVERYONE listened to that song.

I went to work n Alaska and I personally saw African, German, Vietnamese, Mexican, South American and Polish people rocking out to that damn song.  

My loathing of that song and the band has continued since then...

One summer they were playing in LA somewhere and they were broadcasting the Hell Freezes Over show.  Friend of mine says "hey man, Katerina, Skeeter and the rest are at this show!"

My reply, "who gives a shit.  Change the station..."

PJ_Soul

tempo_n_groove said:

Shakescky said:

The Dude and I share the same feelings about the Eagles.

In 1995-6 you couldn't get away from Hotel California.  EVERYONE listened to that song.

I went to work n Alaska and I personally saw African, German, Vietnamese, Mexican, South American and Polish people rocking out to that damn song.  

My loathing of that song and the band has continued since then...

One summer they were playing in LA somewhere and they were broadcasting the Hell Freezes Over show.  Friend of mine says "hey man, Katerina, Skeeter and the rest are at this show!"

My reply, "who gives a shit.  Change the station..."

I was drunk and decided to sing it on karaoke night at some bar in 1997 or so, and I got heckled mercilessly.  

rgambs

tempo_n_groove said:

Shakescky said:

The Dude and I share the same feelings about the Eagles.

In 1995-6 you couldn't get away from Hotel California.  EVERYONE listened to that song.

I went to work n Alaska and I personally saw African, German, Vietnamese, Mexican, South American and Polish people rocking out to that damn song.  

My loathing of that song and the band has continued since then...

One summer they were playing in LA somewhere and they were broadcasting the Hell Freezes Over show.  Friend of mine says "hey man, Katerina, Skeeter and the rest are at this show!"

My reply, "who gives a shit.  Change the station..."

Classic and good song, definitely one that gets played too much though.
Objectively, you can't deny the classic rock deliciousness of that melody and ultra-famous guitar solo any more than you could objectively deny the deliciousness of rhythm and memorability of Billie Jean.

Spiritual_Chaos

The only problem with Hotel California is the chorus which is so famous and well known. The moody lyrics in the verses are quite nice.

"You can check out, but you can... never leeeeeaveeee"

Spiritual_Chaos

Haha!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzPONYTT-fk