The coming 2nd American Civil War

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  • brianlux
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    vaggar99 said:
    brianlux said:
    Americans.  We love war, we love to talk about war, we love to speculate about war.  But how many  of us really have any interest in being involved in a civil war?   To anyone who says they think this is going to happen, I would have to say, "Come on, are you kidding?  How many people do you know who want to be involved in a civil war in their own home town?"  Damn few.  This is just more sensationalist fodder and nonsense to plaster on the internet. 
    you must live in a blue state.
    Actually, I live in the red spectrum of a rainbow colored state.

    El Dorado County (or, as I sometimes refer to it, Helldorado County) is the second most conservative state in California.   All of our representatives are highly conservative. We have more ROATS (ridiculously over-sized American Trucks), many with big American flags flying from their antennas or the the bed, and more Trump bumper stickers, and more greedy developers and more Republicans than you  can shake a stick at.  What a hoot, huh? 
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    vaggar99 said:
    so this guy implies that the Left wants a civil war.  that's news to me.  then he suggests that it would be a bad idea because he and his buddies have ALL the guns and that they would mow down every single pu$$y hat wearing one of us.  interesting.


    Yes, there are people out there that think a civil war is coming.

    Every reaction now just seems so extreme.  Civil war?  Ridiculous...

    Alt-right and Antifa can go at it, lol.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,431
    Infowars is pushing a civil war on July 4th led by liberals.  Real smart shit.
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  • Bentleyspop
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    Here it comes....


  • Gtilley8
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    It's funny, almost. Those with the least guts in this country, the second amendment pushing wackos, are claiming this stuff.  The ones that think liberals are coming to take their guns.  These people are idiots, at best. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Bentleyspop said:
    Here it comes....


    Alex Jones is no different than the radio announcer who incited the bloodletting in Rwanda, resulting in the deaths of a million Hutus and Tutsis. Yea, worry about Maxine Waters.
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  • Kat
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    Bentleyspop said:
    Here it comes....


    Isn't it socially responsible to lock up the mentally unbalanced for their own safety....and everyone else's? Oh I remember now. Under Reagan, all of that funding was discontinued and we ended up with rampant homelessness. Alex Jones is clearly a lunatic though.




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  • pjhawks
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    Kat said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Here it comes....


    Isn't it socially responsible to lock up the mentally unbalanced for their own safety....and everyone else's? Oh I remember now. Under Reagan, all of that funding was discontinued and we ended up with rampant homelessness. Alex Jones is clearly a lunatic though.




    Alex Jones is a cult leader. it's scary.  the people who follow him would follow him to death like a David Koresh or Jim Jones.  
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    Cult leaders are usually charismatic.  Alex Jones is just a nutter.  Idiocracy is upon us 500 years earlier than expected.  The right is truly abhorrent.





  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    edited July 2018
    Somebody tell me this isn't real please:



    Because i I want it to be really badly it is so damn comical.
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  • flywallyfly
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    flywallyfly said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    You can't inflict violence and then complain when someone calls you on it.
    “Inflict violence?” Did I miss something or do I need to tune into Daily Caller?
    There are hundreds of similar videos but I chose a vanilla CNN one since so many trust this news source.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUu46J_OHQ4
    Whaaaaaaaa, antifa. I was waiting for a Hillary speech or Maxine Waters interview where they incite their supporters to physically harm their opponents. You know, like Team Trump Treason. Sorry, but you disappoint. I just love the false comparisons you guys keep throwing out. So, you’re clearly on the side of fascists, is that it?
    I was replying to violence that has occurred, you kinda left that out and then went right to the straw man argument again. LOL, if I dont fit into your narrative I'm a fascist. Echo chamber....echo....echo......
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    flywallyfly said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    You can't inflict violence and then complain when someone calls you on it.
    “Inflict violence?” Did I miss something or do I need to tune into Daily Caller?
    There are hundreds of similar videos but I chose a vanilla CNN one since so many trust this news source.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUu46J_OHQ4
    You didn’t mention anything about the violence which had already occurred. You linked to a CNN video of antifta and somehow equate it to the left or Democrats or liberals, yet Alex Jones and Team Trump Treason are openly advocating for violence against their opponents. One is a reaction and the other is pro-action. Talk about straw arguments and not contributing to the echo chamber.
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  • vaggar99
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    i thinks it wise for the Left to distance themselves from Antifa
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    edited July 2018
    brianlux said:
    vaggar99 said:
    brianlux said:
    Americans.  We love war, we love to talk about war, we love to speculate about war.  But how many  of us really have any interest in being involved in a civil war?   To anyone who says they think this is going to happen, I would have to say, "Come on, are you kidding?  How many people do you know who want to be involved in a civil war in their own home town?"  Damn few.  This is just more sensationalist fodder and nonsense to plaster on the internet. 
    you must live in a blue state.
    Actually, I live in the red spectrum of a rainbow colored state.

    El Dorado County (or, as I sometimes refer to it, Helldorado County) is the second most conservative state in California.   All of our representatives are highly conservative. We have more ROATS (ridiculously over-sized American Trucks), many with big American flags flying from their antennas or the the bed, and more Trump bumper stickers, and more greedy developers and more Republicans than you  can shake a stick at.  What a hoot, huh? 
    ah.....Well, California is funny like that.  I used to live in San Diego and worked in the defense industry where I'd say it's 80% conservative.  I grew up in TX and went to college at Texas A&M which is one of the most conservative schools in the country.   Basically, I've been around these folks much more than my own kind.   All I can say is that I know them, but I will never understand them.  
    I also lived in Ocean Beach which is supposedly 99% liberal, but I found most people there completely clueless in terms of world affairs. 

    Bottom line, the world is a funny place.  There really are good people on both sides.  My problem with the Right rests mostly in the loudmouth types who stoke fear and anger in the otherwise rational minded ones.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    edited July 2018
    vaggar99 said:
    i thinks it wise for the Left to distance themselves from Antifa
    I think they do nor does the liberal or dem mouth pieces voice support or espouse their ideals. Can’t say the same of the other side. Where is the condemnation of Alex Jones from Team Trump Treason or any “responsible” member of the repubes? Their silence is endorsement. And again, we should be worried about Maxine Waters?
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    vaggar99 said:
    i thinks it wise for the Left to distance themselves from Antifa
    I think they do nor does the liberal or dem mouth pieces voice support or espouse their ideals. Can’t say the same of the other side. Where is the condemnation of Alex Jones from Team Trump Treason or any “responsible” member of the repubes? Their silence is endorsement. And again, we should be worried about Maxine Waters?
    Alex Jones speaks to a very small demographic and preaches to his choir so whom is breaking ranks from that?  What republicans have endorsed him?  Any?!?  His info wars show was ranked 1008th in the US.  Not sure how many viewers/followers that is but I'm sure it isn't much.

    Everyone should condemn him though.  He is almost yelling "fire" in a crowded room.  Almost...  
  • Bentleyspop
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    tempo_n_groove said:s
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    vaggar99 said:
    i thinks it wise for the Left to distance themselves from Antifa
    I think they do nor does the liberal or dem mouth pieces voice support or espouse their ideals. Can’t say the same of the other side. Where is the condemnation of Alex Jones from Team Trump Treason or any “responsible” member of the repubes? Their silence is endorsement. And again, we should be worried about Maxine Waters?
    Alex Jones speaks to a very small demographic and preaches to his choir so whom is breaking ranks from that?  What republicans have endorsed him?  Any?!?  His info wars show was ranked 1008th in the US.  Not sure how many viewers/followers that is but I'm sure it isn't much.

    Everyone should condemn him though.  He is almost yelling "fire" in a crowded room.  Almost...  
    What's  more important to a conspiracy theorist?
    Fighting an imaginary civil war or fighting a rea live lawsuit?


  • Halifax2TheMax
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    vaggar99 said:
    i thinks it wise for the Left to distance themselves from Antifa
    I think they do nor does the liberal or dem mouth pieces voice support or espouse their ideals. Can’t say the same of the other side. Where is the condemnation of Alex Jones from Team Trump Treason or any “responsible” member of the repubes? Their silence is endorsement. And again, we should be worried about Maxine Waters?
    Alex Jones speaks to a very small demographic and preaches to his choir so whom is breaking ranks from that?  What republicans have endorsed him?  Any?!?  His info wars show was ranked 1008th in the US.  Not sure how many viewers/followers that is but I'm sure it isn't much.

    Everyone should condemn him though.  He is almost yelling "fire" in a crowded room.  Almost...  
    His rhetoric is way more inflammatory than anything Maxine Waters has said and yet Alex Jones gets a pass? I don’t care how small his audience is. The repubes should be shouting him down, explaining to their audience that threats of violence are never acceptable. Yet, silence from the repubes. Silence = complicity. Team Trump Treason could have lowered the flag for the journalists as a way to soothe tensions but he is compassionless.
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    vaggar99 said:
    i thinks it wise for the Left to distance themselves from Antifa
    I think they do nor does the liberal or dem mouth pieces voice support or espouse their ideals. Can’t say the same of the other side. Where is the condemnation of Alex Jones from Team Trump Treason or any “responsible” member of the repubes? Their silence is endorsement. And again, we should be worried about Maxine Waters?
    Alex Jones speaks to a very small demographic and preaches to his choir so whom is breaking ranks from that?  What republicans have endorsed him?  Any?!?  His info wars show was ranked 1008th in the US.  Not sure how many viewers/followers that is but I'm sure it isn't much.

    Everyone should condemn him though.  He is almost yelling "fire" in a crowded room.  Almost...  
    His rhetoric is way more inflammatory than anything Maxine Waters has said and yet Alex Jones gets a pass? I don’t care how small his audience is. The repubes should be shouting him down, explaining to their audience that threats of violence are never acceptable. Yet, silence from the repubes. Silence = complicity. Team Trump Treason could have lowered the flag for the journalists as a way to soothe tensions but he is compassionless.
    I hate defending this but you make it sound like the sky is falling.  How is Trump linked to infowars and Jones?  It's like the democrats yelling at Jello Biafra to "stand down" for whatever he said at his last Spoken Word concert.  No one knows that it is happening and if it is it's a blip that they aren't worried about.  You can't go attacking and condemning everything everyone says.

    Maxine got hammered because she is a congresswoman and it became front page news.  Alex Jones is not front page news.  He is page 6 material at best and an entertainer not someone in political office.  Google Alex Jones and only non reputable news sources are carrying the Civil War story, why?  Because it's a damn joke.

    The flag lowering he should have done.  That I agree with.  Unfortunately it's just another thing to focus on Trump which shouldn't be happening.  I'd like to focus on bigger issues.  We know he is compassionless.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    vaggar99 said:
    i thinks it wise for the Left to distance themselves from Antifa
    I think they do nor does the liberal or dem mouth pieces voice support or espouse their ideals. Can’t say the same of the other side. Where is the condemnation of Alex Jones from Team Trump Treason or any “responsible” member of the repubes? Their silence is endorsement. And again, we should be worried about Maxine Waters?
    Alex Jones speaks to a very small demographic and preaches to his choir so whom is breaking ranks from that?  What republicans have endorsed him?  Any?!?  His info wars show was ranked 1008th in the US.  Not sure how many viewers/followers that is but I'm sure it isn't much.

    Everyone should condemn him though.  He is almost yelling "fire" in a crowded room.  Almost...  
    His rhetoric is way more inflammatory than anything Maxine Waters has said and yet Alex Jones gets a pass? I don’t care how small his audience is. The repubes should be shouting him down, explaining to their audience that threats of violence are never acceptable. Yet, silence from the repubes. Silence = complicity. Team Trump Treason could have lowered the flag for the journalists as a way to soothe tensions but he is compassionless.
    I hate defending this but you make it sound like the sky is falling.  How is Trump linked to infowars and Jones?  It's like the democrats yelling at Jello Biafra to "stand down" for whatever he said at his last Spoken Word concert.  No one knows that it is happening and if it is it's a blip that they aren't worried about.  You can't go attacking and condemning everything everyone says.

    Maxine got hammered because she is a congresswoman and it became front page news.  Alex Jones is not front page news.  He is page 6 material at best and an entertainer not someone in political office.  Google Alex Jones and only non reputable news sources are carrying the Civil War story, why?  Because it's a damn joke.

    The flag lowering he should have done.  That I agree with.  Unfortunately it's just another thing to focus on Trump which shouldn't be happening.  I'd like to focus on bigger issues.  We know he is compassionless.
    I bring it up because Maxine gets hammered and the repubes get a pass. It happens over and over again. Who the hell is Jello? Never heard of him. Alex Jones is more well known than his ratings. Info wars is well known. Sandy Hook made sure of that. And no, the sky is not falling but we’re in a very dark period where the normalization of hate is beginning to be okay.
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