Justice Kennedy Retiring

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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    i wonder how many more justices will retire before trump's reign ends in 2024?
  • Jason P said:
    i wonder how many more justices will retire before trump's reign ends in 2024?

    Are you sure it's going to be 2024?

    He's cozying up to dictators, talking about how dictatorship is awesome, thinks he's really something special...

    At this point, I'm thinking it is within the realm of possibilities that McDonald changes the course of history for the US with regards to a democracy. I feel his rabid f**ked up base would support it too.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    So what dictators are western leaders allow to cozy up to.  The Trudeau's have a fondness for the Castro's and China.  Both Canada and the US sell weapons to Saudi Arabia...I think we need clear rules on which dictators to avoid...
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  • So what dictators are western leaders allow to cozy up to.  The Trudeau's have a fondness for the Castro's and China.  Both Canada and the US sell weapons to Saudi Arabia...I think we need clear rules on which dictators to avoid...

    I don't think 'avoid' should be the operative term. There should be some level of relationship so we can avert anything catastrophic; however, I don't think western leaders should be giving dictators handjobs like McDonald does for Putin.

    It's fair to say Putin is running things at this point- the US has officially lost its grip on planetary control. The next few decades are going to be interesting.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    So some dictators are fine ... so  the Chinese's dictators and the Saudi Dictators are OK, why?  
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  • So some dictators are fine ... so  the Chinese's dictators and the Saudi Dictators are OK, why?  

    I never said that.

    Why are you defending Donald Trump's affinity for Putin?
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,030
    So some dictators are fine ... so  the Chinese's dictators and the Saudi Dictators are OK, why?  
    Only benevolent dictators.  But show me one.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    So some dictators are fine ... so  the Chinese's dictators and the Saudi Dictators are OK, why?  
    Only benevolent dictators.  But show me one.
    Well the Saudi dictators are using US weapons in Yemen ...

    It was only 1 meeting.  he is no longer lobbing missile over Japan.  How is the not good?  I don't like Trump anymore than the next person.  But the west has a kong history of dealing with dictators...
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,030
    brianlux said:
    So some dictators are fine ... so  the Chinese's dictators and the Saudi Dictators are OK, why?  
    Only benevolent dictators.  But show me one.
    Well the Saudi dictators are using US weapons in Yemen ...

    It was only 1 meeting.  he is no longer lobbing missile over Japan.  How is the not good?  I don't like Trump anymore than the next person.  But the west has a kong history of dealing with dictators...
    Yes, the west has a bit of a King Kong history.  :lol:  (Sorry, couldn't help myself)

    You're right though.  We even had certain people in high places conniving with Hitler and the Nazi's.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    So some dictators are fine ... so  the Chinese's dictators and the Saudi Dictators are OK, why?  
    Only benevolent dictators.  But show me one.
    Well the Saudi dictators are using US weapons in Yemen ...

    It was only 1 meeting.  he is no longer lobbing missile over Japan.  How is the not good?  I don't like Trump anymore than the next person.  But the west has a kong history of dealing with dictators...
    Yes, the west has a bit of a King Kong history.  :lol:  (Sorry, couldn't help myself)

    You're right though.  We even had certain people in high places conniving with Hitler and the Nazi's.

    Maybe it is a necessary evil to have to work with dictators ... who knows.  
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,030
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    So some dictators are fine ... so  the Chinese's dictators and the Saudi Dictators are OK, why?  
    Only benevolent dictators.  But show me one.
    Well the Saudi dictators are using US weapons in Yemen ...

    It was only 1 meeting.  he is no longer lobbing missile over Japan.  How is the not good?  I don't like Trump anymore than the next person.  But the west has a kong history of dealing with dictators...
    Yes, the west has a bit of a King Kong history.  :lol:  (Sorry, couldn't help myself)

    You're right though.  We even had certain people in high places conniving with Hitler and the Nazi's.

    Maybe it is a necessary evil to have to work with dictators ... who knows.  
    Maybe (and that's a big maybe).  I think it depends on what you mean by "work with" and to what degree.   For example, the Ford (as in automotive) family did not work with Nazis because it was a "necessary evil". 

    And selling arms to countries with dictatorships...  well, we all know how that has worked out.

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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    So some dictators are fine ... so  the Chinese's dictators and the Saudi Dictators are OK, why?  
    Only benevolent dictators.  But show me one.
    Well the Saudi dictators are using US weapons in Yemen ...

    It was only 1 meeting.  he is no longer lobbing missile over Japan.  How is the not good?  I don't like Trump anymore than the next person.  But the west has a kong history of dealing with dictators...
    Yes, the west has a bit of a King Kong history.  :lol:  (Sorry, couldn't help myself)

    You're right though.  We even had certain people in high places conniving with Hitler and the Nazi's.

    Maybe it is a necessary evil to have to work with dictators ... who knows.  
    Maybe (and that's a big maybe).  I think it depends on what you mean by "work with" and to what degree.   For example, the Ford (as in automotive) family did not work with Nazis because it was a "necessary evil". 

    And selling arms to countries with dictatorships...  well, we all know how that has worked out.

    No offence ... Trump having a meeting with NK dictator does far less harm than selling weapons to the Saudi's...
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,030
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    So some dictators are fine ... so  the Chinese's dictators and the Saudi Dictators are OK, why?  
    Only benevolent dictators.  But show me one.
    Well the Saudi dictators are using US weapons in Yemen ...

    It was only 1 meeting.  he is no longer lobbing missile over Japan.  How is the not good?  I don't like Trump anymore than the next person.  But the west has a kong history of dealing with dictators...
    Yes, the west has a bit of a King Kong history.  :lol:  (Sorry, couldn't help myself)

    You're right though.  We even had certain people in high places conniving with Hitler and the Nazi's.

    Maybe it is a necessary evil to have to work with dictators ... who knows.  
    Maybe (and that's a big maybe).  I think it depends on what you mean by "work with" and to what degree.   For example, the Ford (as in automotive) family did not work with Nazis because it was a "necessary evil". 

    And selling arms to countries with dictatorships...  well, we all know how that has worked out.

    No offence ... Trump having a meeting with NK dictator does far less harm than selling weapons to the Saudi's...
    That's for sure.  In fact. Trump meeting with Jung-un is no more harmful than a half hour of Jeopardy!

    Only Jeopardy is more reality based.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    So some dictators are fine ... so  the Chinese's dictators and the Saudi Dictators are OK, why?  
    Only benevolent dictators.  But show me one.
    Well the Saudi dictators are using US weapons in Yemen ...

    It was only 1 meeting.  he is no longer lobbing missile over Japan.  How is the not good?  I don't like Trump anymore than the next person.  But the west has a kong history of dealing with dictators...
    Yes, the west has a bit of a King Kong history.  :lol:  (Sorry, couldn't help myself)

    You're right though.  We even had certain people in high places conniving with Hitler and the Nazi's.

    Maybe it is a necessary evil to have to work with dictators ... who knows.  
    Maybe (and that's a big maybe).  I think it depends on what you mean by "work with" and to what degree.   For example, the Ford (as in automotive) family did not work with Nazis because it was a "necessary evil". 

    And selling arms to countries with dictatorships...  well, we all know how that has worked out.

    No offence ... Trump having a meeting with NK dictator does far less harm than selling weapons to the Saudi's...
    That's for sure.  In fact. Trump meeting with Jung-un is no more harmful than a half hour of Jeopardy!

    Only Jeopardy is more reality based.
    I agree ... 

    Maybe just avoid all dictators....

    Of course many politicians in the west have dictatorial tendencies.  The difference we eventually get to toss the crooks out of office for a different crooks...
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,030
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    So some dictators are fine ... so  the Chinese's dictators and the Saudi Dictators are OK, why?  
    Only benevolent dictators.  But show me one.
    Well the Saudi dictators are using US weapons in Yemen ...

    It was only 1 meeting.  he is no longer lobbing missile over Japan.  How is the not good?  I don't like Trump anymore than the next person.  But the west has a kong history of dealing with dictators...
    Yes, the west has a bit of a King Kong history.  :lol:  (Sorry, couldn't help myself)

    You're right though.  We even had certain people in high places conniving with Hitler and the Nazi's.

    Maybe it is a necessary evil to have to work with dictators ... who knows.  
    Maybe (and that's a big maybe).  I think it depends on what you mean by "work with" and to what degree.   For example, the Ford (as in automotive) family did not work with Nazis because it was a "necessary evil". 

    And selling arms to countries with dictatorships...  well, we all know how that has worked out.

    No offence ... Trump having a meeting with NK dictator does far less harm than selling weapons to the Saudi's...
    That's for sure.  In fact. Trump meeting with Jung-un is no more harmful than a half hour of Jeopardy!

    Only Jeopardy is more reality based.
    I agree ... 

    Maybe just avoid all dictators....

    Of course many politicians in the west have dictatorial tendencies.  The difference we eventually get to toss the crooks out of office for a different crooks...
    Seems to be the case much of the time!
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    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    It is odd that Kennedy would look at tRump and think "yeah I want this guy to name my replacement."

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/anthony-kennedy-resignation-trump/

    I hope this story isn't true
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    edited July 2018
    I'm thinking it probably is true. I mean, why else would this guy resign right now?? It just doesn't make any sense... unless he's dying. Has anyone heard anywhere that the guy's dying?

    Trump's business career is more connected to Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy than we ever knew

    http://www.businessinsider.com/anthony-kennedy-son-loaned-president-trump-over-a-billion-dollars-2018-6

    If this is true.... it's obviously not going to ever get the attention it should get.


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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    It's weird....if the theory is true, Kennedy would have to recuse himself from entering any opinion on potential tRump cases at the supreme court due to this connection.  By resigning there is no connection.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    edited July 2018
    so this Kavanaugh guy had up to $200,000 in credit card debt.  how is this possible and how dumb is that? heck his minimum payment on that had to be as much as most people's mortgages.  This is a guy we want on the highest of courts? 
    Post edited by pjhawks on
  • PJhawks... the bar is really low right now. Look what's acceptable for the president position when questioning whether some idiot that cannot manage credit cards is appropriate for supreme court.
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    edited July 2018
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    Post edited by tbergs on
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    tbergs said:
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    yes lots of Nats tickets.   They have a $1.2 million dollar home and combined they made around $300,000 a year. seems like they are living close to the edge.  
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    edited July 2018
    pjhawks said:
    tbergs said:
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    yes lots of Nats tickets.   They have a $1.2 million dollar home and combined they made around $300,000 a year. seems like they are living close to the edge.  
    Hey though, what could go wrong with a financially unstable judge prone to debt. I'm sure he can't be bought.

    Yeah, the home value really threw me off when I saw the income amounts. Didn't make sense. Also read some of the debt was related to home improvement costs.
    Post edited by tbergs on
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,532
    He could of retired at any point but to retire before the upcoming midterms is fishy I don’t trust him at all ...
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    tbergs said:
    pjhawks said:
    tbergs said:
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    yes lots of Nats tickets.   They have a $1.2 million dollar home and combined they made around $300,000 a year. seems like they are living close to the edge.  
    Hey though, what could go wrong with a financially unstable judge prone to debt. I'm sure he can't be bought.

    Yeah, the home value really threw me off when I saw the income amounts. Didn't make sense. Also read some of the debt was related to home improvement costs.
    What about the home value vs income throws you off?
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    tbergs said:
    pjhawks said:
    tbergs said:
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    yes lots of Nats tickets.   They have a $1.2 million dollar home and combined they made around $300,000 a year. seems like they are living close to the edge.  
    Hey though, what could go wrong with a financially unstable judge prone to debt. I'm sure he can't be bought.

    Yeah, the home value really threw me off when I saw the income amounts. Didn't make sense. Also read some of the debt was related to home improvement costs.
    What about the home value vs income throws you off?
    Maybe it shouldn't have. I guess a home that costs 4x your annual income is pretty normal these days. Just not how I'd ever want to be financially strained. I guess they could have put down a large down payment so probably just poor speculation on my part.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    tbergs said:
    tbergs said:
    pjhawks said:
    tbergs said:
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    yes lots of Nats tickets.   They have a $1.2 million dollar home and combined they made around $300,000 a year. seems like they are living close to the edge.  
    Hey though, what could go wrong with a financially unstable judge prone to debt. I'm sure he can't be bought.

    Yeah, the home value really threw me off when I saw the income amounts. Didn't make sense. Also read some of the debt was related to home improvement costs.
    What about the home value vs income throws you off?
    Maybe it shouldn't have. I guess a home that costs 4x your annual income is pretty normal these days. Just not how I'd ever want to be financially strained. I guess they could have put down a large down payment so probably just poor speculation on my part.

    I live in an expensive part of the world. You can't really buy a house for less than a million. Nothing about that scenario seems unusual to me, though maybe it should. People with lower income than that are somehow purchasing houses. 
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    If the trimester get a second term, he might get to appoint another SCOTUS...
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,367
    tbergs said:
    tbergs said:
    pjhawks said:
    tbergs said:
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    yes lots of Nats tickets.   They have a $1.2 million dollar home and combined they made around $300,000 a year. seems like they are living close to the edge.  
    Hey though, what could go wrong with a financially unstable judge prone to debt. I'm sure he can't be bought.

    Yeah, the home value really threw me off when I saw the income amounts. Didn't make sense. Also read some of the debt was related to home improvement costs.
    What about the home value vs income throws you off?
    Maybe it shouldn't have. I guess a home that costs 4x your annual income is pretty normal these days. Just not how I'd ever want to be financially strained. I guess they could have put down a large down payment so probably just poor speculation on my part.

    I live in an expensive part of the world. You can't really buy a house for less than a million. Nothing about that scenario seems unusual to me, though maybe it should. People with lower income than that are somehow purchasing houses. 
    Not to mention if you bought a house 20 years ago you likely paid a small fraction of what it is worth today. See it all the time, family lives on a home for 20 years, sell it and upgrade to what they couldn’t have afforded otherwisr
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    tbergs said:
    tbergs said:
    pjhawks said:
    tbergs said:
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    yes lots of Nats tickets.   They have a $1.2 million dollar home and combined they made around $300,000 a year. seems like they are living close to the edge.  
    Hey though, what could go wrong with a financially unstable judge prone to debt. I'm sure he can't be bought.

    Yeah, the home value really threw me off when I saw the income amounts. Didn't make sense. Also read some of the debt was related to home improvement costs.
    What about the home value vs income throws you off?
    Maybe it shouldn't have. I guess a home that costs 4x your annual income is pretty normal these days. Just not how I'd ever want to be financially strained. I guess they could have put down a large down payment so probably just poor speculation on my part.

    I live in an expensive part of the world. You can't really buy a house for less than a million. Nothing about that scenario seems unusual to me, though maybe it should. People with lower income than that are somehow purchasing houses. 
    how about $200,000 in credit card debt?  that is just crazy.
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