its rough.... but all the dummies that stayed home or voted for a hopeless third party need to fuck themselves.
+10000 Especially the Bernie Bros the ultra-liberal crowd who just couldn't bring themselves to vote for Clinton, because...???
I was NOT a fan of Clinton at all, but I voted for her for this exact reason. Unfortunately, Trump may seat at least one more SC judge before 2020 gets here.
I totally agree with this, and also pretty much feel the same about those people who did vote, but for anyone but Trump and anyone but Clinton because they hated her that much, because...??? Those people 100% knew what was at stake and that a strategic vote against Trump was needed, but somehow their precious so-called consciences were more important than the future of their country and all the people who have been and will be fucked over by Trump's government and Trump's Supreme Court.
it depends on the level of knowledge that trump voters had going in, re: all the possible ramifications. honestly, until now, I didn't know pretty much anything about the supreme court, who was on it, who was going to be leaving, etc. So if you were a trump voter and unaware of some of these eventualities, you can't say they 100% knew what was at stake. there's a lot of people that are ignorant of the process and/or apathetic as to the consequences and still vote based on the candidate and their limited view of that role.
I can't say I expect every voter to know every little nuance of possibility of the next 4 years.
The SCOTUS issue was probably the main reason I voted against Hillary. It was a hot topic at the end of Obama’s term. Time for Ruth to go now!
What specific issues were you concerned with?
I figured that Hillary would most likely choose a very liberal leaning judge for Scalia’s seat...plain and simple.
And what were you worried such a judge would result in? I think that's what my2hands is wondering. Same here. If I had to guess about anyone saying what you said here, I'd guess that you want Roe v. Wade overturned, and for gay marriage legalization to be overturned. Obviously a more liberal SCOTUS would not be removing the 2nd Amendment like Trump is lying about, so I have to assume that wasn't your concern.
I’m pretty sure it is evident that I lean conservative when voting. I do not think Roe vs. Wade or gay marriage will get overturned. I’m not going to get into my feelings about rights of unborn babies, gun control or immigration, there are plenty of other threads here. You obviously think a heavily liberal sided Supreme Court would be a good idea, right? Why is that?
Why do you not think RvW will be overturned?? That is exactly their plan man. I have said repeatedly that if the SCOTUS weren't completely broken it would be motivated by partisanship at all. But it is broken. And the reason I think a more liberal SCOTUS is way more preferable to a very conservative one is because right-leaning judges often tend to ignore the Constitution when it comes to civil and human rights. I prefer a more liberal SCOTUS precisely because I know a right-leaning one will overturn Roe vs Wade, and will make other decisions that violate the rights of women and LGBTQ. So you're not going to actually answer the original question? Is that because you don't have a real answer or what?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
its rough.... but all the dummies that stayed home or voted for a hopeless third party need to fuck themselves.
+10000 Especially the Bernie Bros the ultra-liberal crowd who just couldn't bring themselves to vote for Clinton, because...???
I was NOT a fan of Clinton at all, but I voted for her for this exact reason. Unfortunately, Trump may seat at least one more SC judge before 2020 gets here.
I totally agree with this, and also pretty much feel the same about those people who did vote, but for anyone but Trump and anyone but Clinton because they hated her that much, because...??? Those people 100% knew what was at stake and that a strategic vote against Trump was needed, but somehow their precious so-called consciences were more important than the future of their country and all the people who have been and will be fucked over by Trump's government and Trump's Supreme Court.
it depends on the level of knowledge that trump voters had going in, re: all the possible ramifications. honestly, until now, I didn't know pretty much anything about the supreme court, who was on it, who was going to be leaving, etc. So if you were a trump voter and unaware of some of these eventualities, you can't say they 100% knew what was at stake. there's a lot of people that are ignorant of the process and/or apathetic as to the consequences and still vote based on the candidate and their limited view of that role.
I can't say I expect every voter to know every little nuance of possibility of the next 4 years.
The SCOTUS issue was probably the main reason I voted against Hillary. It was a hot topic at the end of Obama’s term. Time for Ruth to go now!
What specific issues were you concerned with?
I figured that Hillary would most likely choose a very liberal leaning judge for Scalia’s seat...plain and simple.
And what were you worried such a judge would result in? I think that's what my2hands is wondering. Same here. If I had to guess about anyone saying what you said here, I'd guess that you want Roe v. Wade overturned, and for gay marriage legalization to be overturned. Obviously a more liberal SCOTUS would not be removing the 2nd Amendment like Trump is lying about, so I have to assume that wasn't your concern.
I do not think Roe vs. Wade or gay marriage will get overturned.
How would you feel if they were overturned? Would you support it, or not support it?
Exactly, we need to go back to when women and minorities couldn't vote. When your wife stayed at home barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. When you could just dump your trash in the nearest river. When you could send the boy to go work in the coal mine to earn support the family. The good old days when america was great!
Not that far back, how about say, the 80's ? MAGA
The 80's really sucked ass for an awful lot of people.
That was when wages began to stagnate, the "middle class" started to disappear, and the area we now call the Rust Belt started to get really rusty and then decay. America has never really been great unless you are/were a wealthy (wealthy, not rich, there is a difference) white man.
OK, the 70's work for you? The 60's ? Let me guess, it has always sucked in this nation.. MSCGA (Make the Supreme Court Great Again)
Pretty obvious you're 100% white male
Hey what’s wrong with being a white guy?
Nothing, unless you have zero understanding of history and lack empathy for others.
The obvious point is America was NEVER great... not the 60's or 70's, not now, not ever. Maybe one day, but that seems to be a very distant future right now
Don’t be so negative. It’s not just America, it’s the world. The world is an awful place, but it’s gotten amazingly better in just the last 50 years. If everyone was as negative as you’re being right now there wouldn’t be many people who cared to live their lives at all. Here’s a cool article that made me think about overpopulation and the world as a whole a bit more:
Stay positive, nothing gets achieved when you’re grumpy and negative. dont fall into the “I’m a liberal so I’m mad at everything” bullshit. You can have hopes and be positive regardless of political leanings.
It looks to me like Bill Gates is rather naive when it comes to population. Let's look at the "facts":
Fact #1: Since 1960, child deaths have plummeted from 20 million a year to 6 million a year.
The natural mortality rate for humans is 40%. I recently was told this by a science professor who teaches at a large, well known university on the east coast. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not wishing anyone's child to die but the reality is, our wonderful medical advances have done little to stem over-population.
Fact #2: Since 1960, the fertility rate has fallen by half.
Gates says, "When the fertility rate is close to 2 children per woman, so that every
couple is on average replaced by about two children, population growth
is slow." First of all, the key word here is "when". It hasn't happened. And secondly, since when does women having 2 children reduce population? This is naive in the extreme. Think about it. A twenty five year old woman has two children. When they turn twenty five, they have two children making 4 total. The first mother is still alive. Now we have a population of 7 (from one). When the 4 children have two children, that makes 8 new children and, at 75, the original mother is probably still alive- totally population, 12 to 13. See what I mean? Totally naive.
Fact #3: 137,000 people escaped extreme poverty every day between 1990 and 2015.
That's great! OH, but wait. That's 25 years. How many people have been born into poverty in that amount of time. Over 3 billion people live on less than $2.50 a day. In the last 25 years, imagine how many people became trapped by poverty. Far more than the mere 137,000 who escaped.
CNN's Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin Says: I think sometimes we talk about the Supreme Court too much in abstractions, about dignity and who is qualified and who is not. Let's talk facts. Let's talk about what America is going to be like that's different. You are going to see 20 states pass laws banning abortion outright. Just banning abortion. Because they know that there are now going to be five votes on the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade. And abortion will be illegal in a significant part of the United States in 18 months. There is just no doubt about that. And that is why these seats matter so much because -- one of my favorite lines about the Supreme Court was by Justice Robert Jackson who served on the Court in the 1940s and '50s. He said "We are not final because we are infallible, but we are infallible only because we are final." Somebody has the last word and here it is the Supreme Court and Roe v. Wade is doomed. It is gone because Donald Trump won the election. And because he's going to have the chance to appoint two Supreme Court Justices.
I agree with Toobin. We're fucked. Gay rights, civil rights, reproductive rights, immigration, speech, etc... Thank goodness Ginsburg has no plans to retire until Drumpf is gone. I just hope her body can keep up with her mind.
With The Party of Trump, we no longer have checks and balances. Congress does our Supreme Leader's bidding. And SCOTUS will as well. Hopefully Drumpf doesn't decide to declare himself King. I'm sure McConnell, Ryan, Nunes, Gorsuch, Sessions, et al will be lining up to become his most trusted vassals.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
its rough.... but all the dummies that stayed home or voted for a hopeless third party need to fuck themselves.
+10000 Especially the Bernie Bros the ultra-liberal crowd who just couldn't bring themselves to vote for Clinton, because...???
I was NOT a fan of Clinton at all, but I voted for her for this exact reason. Unfortunately, Trump may seat at least one more SC judge before 2020 gets here.
I totally agree with this, and also pretty much feel the same about those people who did vote, but for anyone but Trump and anyone but Clinton because they hated her that much, because...??? Those people 100% knew what was at stake and that a strategic vote against Trump was needed, but somehow their precious so-called consciences were more important than the future of their country and all the people who have been and will be fucked over by Trump's government and Trump's Supreme Court.
it depends on the level of knowledge that trump voters had going in, re: all the possible ramifications. honestly, until now, I didn't know pretty much anything about the supreme court, who was on it, who was going to be leaving, etc. So if you were a trump voter and unaware of some of these eventualities, you can't say they 100% knew what was at stake. there's a lot of people that are ignorant of the process and/or apathetic as to the consequences and still vote based on the candidate and their limited view of that role.
I can't say I expect every voter to know every little nuance of possibility of the next 4 years.
The SCOTUS issue was probably the main reason I voted against Hillary. It was a hot topic at the end of Obama’s term. Time for Ruth to go now!
What specific issues were you concerned with?
I figured that Hillary would most likely choose a very liberal leaning judge for Scalia’s seat...plain and simple.
And what were you worried such a judge would result in? I think that's what my2hands is wondering. Same here. If I had to guess about anyone saying what you said here, I'd guess that you want Roe v. Wade overturned, and for gay marriage legalization to be overturned. Obviously a more liberal SCOTUS would not be removing the 2nd Amendment like Trump is lying about, so I have to assume that wasn't your concern.
I do not think Roe vs. Wade or gay marriage will get overturned.
How would you feel if they were overturned? Would you support it, or not support it?
Exactly, we need to go back to when women and minorities couldn't vote. When your wife stayed at home barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. When you could just dump your trash in the nearest river. When you could send the boy to go work in the coal mine to earn support the family. The good old days when america was great!
Not that far back, how about say, the 80's ? MAGA
The 80's really sucked ass for an awful lot of people.
That was when wages began to stagnate, the "middle class" started to disappear, and the area we now call the Rust Belt started to get really rusty and then decay. America has never really been great unless you are/were a wealthy (wealthy, not rich, there is a difference) white man.
OK, the 70's work for you? The 60's ? Let me guess, it has always sucked in this nation.. MSCGA (Make the Supreme Court Great Again)
Pretty obvious you're 100% white male
Hey what’s wrong with being a white guy?
Nothing, unless you have zero understanding of history and lack empathy for others.
The obvious point is America was NEVER great... not the 60's or 70's, not now, not ever. Maybe one day, but that seems to be a very distant future right now
Don’t be so negative. It’s not just America, it’s the world. The world is an awful place, but it’s gotten amazingly better in just the last 50 years. If everyone was as negative as you’re being right now there wouldn’t be many people who cared to live their lives at all. Here’s a cool article that made me think about overpopulation and the world as a whole a bit more:
Stay positive, nothing gets achieved when you’re grumpy and negative. dont fall into the “I’m a liberal so I’m mad at everything” bullshit. You can have hopes and be positive regardless of political leanings.
It looks to me like Bill Gates is rather naive when it comes to population. Let's look at the "facts":
Fact #1: Since 1960, child deaths have plummeted from 20 million a year to 6 million a year.
The natural mortality rate for humans is 40%. I recently was told this by a science professor who teaches at a large, well known university on the east coast. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not wishing anyone's child to die but the reality is, our wonderful medical advances have done little to stem over-population.
Fact #2: Since 1960, the fertility rate has fallen by half.
Gates says, "When the fertility rate is close to 2 children per woman, so that every
couple is on average replaced by about two children, population growth
is slow." First of all, the key word here is "when". It hasn't happened. And secondly, since when does women having 2 children reduce population? This is naive in the extreme. Think about it. A twenty five year old woman has two children. When they turn twenty five, they have two children making 4 total. The first mother is still alive. Now we have a population of 7 (from one). When the 4 children have two children, that makes 8 new children and, at 75, the original mother is probably still alive- totally population, 12 to 13. See what I mean? Totally naive.
Fact #3: 137,000 people escaped extreme poverty every day between 1990 and 2015.
That's great! OH, but wait. That's 25 years. How many people have been born into poverty in that amount of time. Over 3 billion people live on less than $2.50 a day. In the last 25 years, imagine how many people became trapped by poverty. Far more than the mere 137,000 who escaped.
The world is getting better? Wishful thinking.
I could not agree more.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Now as for the SCOTUS issue, yes, we are royally fucked. Yes, this country has royally fucking reamed itself into the ground. R.I.P America (for now).
To be honest, you should take the (for now) out cause you are going to be fucked for a very very long time. say bye to abortion in many states, say bye to gay marriage in many states, you want money taken out of politics? sorry not going to happen.
America is beyond fucked.
I may be wrong or just naive but I don't set this happening. I really hope not anyways.
oh, that is exactly their plan. you can bet on it.
This seems like such a trivial thing to want to overturn. The conservative goal is to overturn Roe vs Wade?
Conservatives have been begging for this for decades. its a part of their cultural war
Exactly, we need to go back to when women and minorities couldn't vote. When your wife stayed at home barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. When you could just dump your trash in the nearest river. When you could send the boy to go work in the coal mine to earn support the family. The good old days when america was great!
Not that far back, how about say, the 80's ? MAGA
The 80's really sucked ass for an awful lot of people.
That was when wages began to stagnate, the "middle class" started to disappear, and the area we now call the Rust Belt started to get really rusty and then decay. America has never really been great unless you are/were a wealthy (wealthy, not rich, there is a difference) white man.
OK, the 70's work for you? The 60's ? Let me guess, it has always sucked in this nation.. MSCGA (Make the Supreme Court Great Again)
Pretty obvious you're 100% white male
Hey what’s wrong with being a white guy?
Nothing, unless you have zero understanding of history and lack empathy for others.
The obvious point is America was NEVER great... not the 60's or 70's, not now, not ever. Maybe one day, but that seems to be a very distant future right now
Don’t be so negative. It’s not just America, it’s the world. The world is an awful place, but it’s gotten amazingly better in just the last 50 years. If everyone was as negative as you’re being right now there wouldn’t be many people who cared to live their lives at all. Here’s a cool article that made me think about overpopulation and the world as a whole a bit more:
Stay positive, nothing gets achieved when you’re grumpy and negative. dont fall into the “I’m a liberal so I’m mad at everything” bullshit. You can have hopes and be positive regardless of political leanings.
It looks to me like Bill Gates is rather naive when it comes to population. Let's look at the "facts":
Fact #1: Since 1960, child deaths have plummeted from 20 million a year to 6 million a year.
The natural mortality rate for humans is 40%. I recently was told this by a science professor who teaches at a large, well known university on the east coast. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not wishing anyone's child to die but the reality is, our wonderful medical advances have done little to stem over-population.
Fact #2: Since 1960, the fertility rate has fallen by half.
Gates says, "When the fertility rate is close to 2 children per woman, so that every
couple is on average replaced by about two children, population growth
is slow." First of all, the key word here is "when". It hasn't happened. And secondly, since when does women having 2 children reduce population? This is naive in the extreme. Think about it. A twenty five year old woman has two children. When they turn twenty five, they have two children making 4 total. The first mother is still alive. Now we have a population of 7 (from one). When the 4 children have two children, that makes 8 new children and, at 75, the original mother is probably still alive- totally population, 12 to 13. See what I mean? Totally naive.
Fact #3: 137,000 people escaped extreme poverty every day between 1990 and 2015.
That's great! OH, but wait. That's 25 years. How many people have been born into poverty in that amount of time. Over 3 billion people live on less than $2.50 a day. In the last 25 years, imagine how many people became trapped by poverty. Far more than the mere 137,000 who escaped.
The world is getting better? Wishful thinking.
I could not agree more.
You would argue against irrefutable facts from an oxford economist though. They’re not from bill gates, he didn’t create the stats.
Exactly, we need to go back to when women and minorities couldn't vote. When your wife stayed at home barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. When you could just dump your trash in the nearest river. When you could send the boy to go work in the coal mine to earn support the family. The good old days when america was great!
Not that far back, how about say, the 80's ? MAGA
The 80's really sucked ass for an awful lot of people.
That was when wages began to stagnate, the "middle class" started to disappear, and the area we now call the Rust Belt started to get really rusty and then decay. America has never really been great unless you are/were a wealthy (wealthy, not rich, there is a difference) white man.
OK, the 70's work for you? The 60's ? Let me guess, it has always sucked in this nation.. MSCGA (Make the Supreme Court Great Again)
Pretty obvious you're 100% white male
Hey what’s wrong with being a white guy?
Nothing, unless you have zero understanding of history and lack empathy for others.
The obvious point is America was NEVER great... not the 60's or 70's, not now, not ever. Maybe one day, but that seems to be a very distant future right now
Don’t be so negative. It’s not just America, it’s the world. The world is an awful place, but it’s gotten amazingly better in just the last 50 years. If everyone was as negative as you’re being right now there wouldn’t be many people who cared to live their lives at all. Here’s a cool article that made me think about overpopulation and the world as a whole a bit more:
Stay positive, nothing gets achieved when you’re grumpy and negative. dont fall into the “I’m a liberal so I’m mad at everything” bullshit. You can have hopes and be positive regardless of political leanings.
It looks to me like Bill Gates is rather naive when it comes to population. Let's look at the "facts":
Fact #1: Since 1960, child deaths have plummeted from 20 million a year to 6 million a year.
The natural mortality rate for humans is 40%. I recently was told this by a science professor who teaches at a large, well known university on the east coast. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not wishing anyone's child to die but the reality is, our wonderful medical advances have done little to stem over-population.
Fact #2: Since 1960, the fertility rate has fallen by half.
Gates says, "When the fertility rate is close to 2 children per woman, so that every
couple is on average replaced by about two children, population growth
is slow." First of all, the key word here is "when". It hasn't happened. And secondly, since when does women having 2 children reduce population? This is naive in the extreme. Think about it. A twenty five year old woman has two children. When they turn twenty five, they have two children making 4 total. The first mother is still alive. Now we have a population of 7 (from one). When the 4 children have two children, that makes 8 new children and, at 75, the original mother is probably still alive- totally population, 12 to 13. See what I mean? Totally naive.
Fact #3: 137,000 people escaped extreme poverty every day between 1990 and 2015.
That's great! OH, but wait. That's 25 years. How many people have been born into poverty in that amount of time. Over 3 billion people live on less than $2.50 a day. In the last 25 years, imagine how many people became trapped by poverty. Far more than the mere 137,000 who escaped.
The world is getting better? Wishful thinking.
I could not agree more.
You would argue against irrefutable facts from an oxford economist though. They’re not from bill gates, he didn’t create the stats.
I'm arguing against the conclusions derived from the facts, not the facts themselves. Just as Brian did - that's why I agreed with him.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Exactly, we need to go back to when women and minorities couldn't vote. When your wife stayed at home barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. When you could just dump your trash in the nearest river. When you could send the boy to go work in the coal mine to earn support the family. The good old days when america was great!
Not that far back, how about say, the 80's ? MAGA
The 80's really sucked ass for an awful lot of people.
That was when wages began to stagnate, the "middle class" started to disappear, and the area we now call the Rust Belt started to get really rusty and then decay. America has never really been great unless you are/were a wealthy (wealthy, not rich, there is a difference) white man.
OK, the 70's work for you? The 60's ? Let me guess, it has always sucked in this nation.. MSCGA (Make the Supreme Court Great Again)
Pretty obvious you're 100% white male
Hey what’s wrong with being a white guy?
Nothing, unless you have zero understanding of history and lack empathy for others.
The obvious point is America was NEVER great... not the 60's or 70's, not now, not ever. Maybe one day, but that seems to be a very distant future right now
Don’t be so negative. It’s not just America, it’s the world. The world is an awful place, but it’s gotten amazingly better in just the last 50 years. If everyone was as negative as you’re being right now there wouldn’t be many people who cared to live their lives at all. Here’s a cool article that made me think about overpopulation and the world as a whole a bit more:
Stay positive, nothing gets achieved when you’re grumpy and negative. dont fall into the “I’m a liberal so I’m mad at everything” bullshit. You can have hopes and be positive regardless of political leanings.
It looks to me like Bill Gates is rather naive when it comes to population. Let's look at the "facts":
Fact #1: Since 1960, child deaths have plummeted from 20 million a year to 6 million a year.
The natural mortality rate for humans is 40%. I recently was told this by a science professor who teaches at a large, well known university on the east coast. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not wishing anyone's child to die but the reality is, our wonderful medical advances have done little to stem over-population.
Fact #2: Since 1960, the fertility rate has fallen by half.
Gates says, "When the fertility rate is close to 2 children per woman, so that every
couple is on average replaced by about two children, population growth
is slow." First of all, the key word here is "when". It hasn't happened. And secondly, since when does women having 2 children reduce population? This is naive in the extreme. Think about it. A twenty five year old woman has two children. When they turn twenty five, they have two children making 4 total. The first mother is still alive. Now we have a population of 7 (from one). When the 4 children have two children, that makes 8 new children and, at 75, the original mother is probably still alive- totally population, 12 to 13. See what I mean? Totally naive.
Fact #3: 137,000 people escaped extreme poverty every day between 1990 and 2015.
That's great! OH, but wait. That's 25 years. How many people have been born into poverty in that amount of time. Over 3 billion people live on less than $2.50 a day. In the last 25 years, imagine how many people became trapped by poverty. Far more than the mere 137,000 who escaped.
The world is getting better? Wishful thinking.
I could not agree more.
You would argue against irrefutable facts from an oxford economist though. They’re not from bill gates, he didn’t create the stats.
I'm arguing against the conclusions derived from the facts, not the facts themselves. Just as Brian did - that's why I agreed with him.
Exactly, we need to go back to when women and minorities couldn't vote. When your wife stayed at home barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. When you could just dump your trash in the nearest river. When you could send the boy to go work in the coal mine to earn support the family. The good old days when america was great!
Not that far back, how about say, the 80's ? MAGA
The 80's really sucked ass for an awful lot of people.
That was when wages began to stagnate, the "middle class" started to disappear, and the area we now call the Rust Belt started to get really rusty and then decay. America has never really been great unless you are/were a wealthy (wealthy, not rich, there is a difference) white man.
OK, the 70's work for you? The 60's ? Let me guess, it has always sucked in this nation.. MSCGA (Make the Supreme Court Great Again)
Pretty obvious you're 100% white male
Hey what’s wrong with being a white guy?
Nothing, unless you have zero understanding of history and lack empathy for others.
The obvious point is America was NEVER great... not the 60's or 70's, not now, not ever. Maybe one day, but that seems to be a very distant future right now
Don’t be so negative. It’s not just America, it’s the world. The world is an awful place, but it’s gotten amazingly better in just the last 50 years. If everyone was as negative as you’re being right now there wouldn’t be many people who cared to live their lives at all. Here’s a cool article that made me think about overpopulation and the world as a whole a bit more:
Stay positive, nothing gets achieved when you’re grumpy and negative. dont fall into the “I’m a liberal so I’m mad at everything” bullshit. You can have hopes and be positive regardless of political leanings.
It looks to me like Bill Gates is rather naive when it comes to population. Let's look at the "facts":
Fact #1: Since 1960, child deaths have plummeted from 20 million a year to 6 million a year.
The natural mortality rate for humans is 40%. I recently was told this by a science professor who teaches at a large, well known university on the east coast. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not wishing anyone's child to die but the reality is, our wonderful medical advances have done little to stem over-population.
Fact #2: Since 1960, the fertility rate has fallen by half.
Gates says, "When the fertility rate is close to 2 children per woman, so that every
couple is on average replaced by about two children, population growth
is slow." First of all, the key word here is "when". It hasn't happened. And secondly, since when does women having 2 children reduce population? This is naive in the extreme. Think about it. A twenty five year old woman has two children. When they turn twenty five, they have two children making 4 total. The first mother is still alive. Now we have a population of 7 (from one). When the 4 children have two children, that makes 8 new children and, at 75, the original mother is probably still alive- totally population, 12 to 13. See what I mean? Totally naive.
Fact #3: 137,000 people escaped extreme poverty every day between 1990 and 2015.
That's great! OH, but wait. That's 25 years. How many people have been born into poverty in that amount of time. Over 3 billion people live on less than $2.50 a day. In the last 25 years, imagine how many people became trapped by poverty. Far more than the mere 137,000 who escaped.
The world is getting better? Wishful thinking.
I could not agree more.
You would argue against irrefutable facts from an oxford economist though. They’re not from bill gates, he didn’t create the stats.
I'm arguing against the conclusions derived from the facts, not the facts themselves. Just as Brian did - that's why I agreed with him.
Oh, that makes sense. Wut.
you ever hear of a little thing called "analyzing data"?
Exactly, we need to go back to when women and minorities couldn't vote. When your wife stayed at home barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. When you could just dump your trash in the nearest river. When you could send the boy to go work in the coal mine to earn support the family. The good old days when america was great!
Not that far back, how about say, the 80's ? MAGA
The 80's really sucked ass for an awful lot of people.
That was when wages began to stagnate, the "middle class" started to disappear, and the area we now call the Rust Belt started to get really rusty and then decay. America has never really been great unless you are/were a wealthy (wealthy, not rich, there is a difference) white man.
OK, the 70's work for you? The 60's ? Let me guess, it has always sucked in this nation.. MSCGA (Make the Supreme Court Great Again)
Pretty obvious you're 100% white male
Hey what’s wrong with being a white guy?
Nothing, unless you have zero understanding of history and lack empathy for others.
The obvious point is America was NEVER great... not the 60's or 70's, not now, not ever. Maybe one day, but that seems to be a very distant future right now
Don’t be so negative. It’s not just America, it’s the world. The world is an awful place, but it’s gotten amazingly better in just the last 50 years. If everyone was as negative as you’re being right now there wouldn’t be many people who cared to live their lives at all. Here’s a cool article that made me think about overpopulation and the world as a whole a bit more:
Stay positive, nothing gets achieved when you’re grumpy and negative. dont fall into the “I’m a liberal so I’m mad at everything” bullshit. You can have hopes and be positive regardless of political leanings.
It looks to me like Bill Gates is rather naive when it comes to population. Let's look at the "facts":
Fact #1: Since 1960, child deaths have plummeted from 20 million a year to 6 million a year.
The natural mortality rate for humans is 40%. I recently was told this by a science professor who teaches at a large, well known university on the east coast. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not wishing anyone's child to die but the reality is, our wonderful medical advances have done little to stem over-population.
Fact #2: Since 1960, the fertility rate has fallen by half.
Gates says, "When the fertility rate is close to 2 children per woman, so that every
couple is on average replaced by about two children, population growth
is slow." First of all, the key word here is "when". It hasn't happened. And secondly, since when does women having 2 children reduce population? This is naive in the extreme. Think about it. A twenty five year old woman has two children. When they turn twenty five, they have two children making 4 total. The first mother is still alive. Now we have a population of 7 (from one). When the 4 children have two children, that makes 8 new children and, at 75, the original mother is probably still alive- totally population, 12 to 13. See what I mean? Totally naive.
Fact #3: 137,000 people escaped extreme poverty every day between 1990 and 2015.
That's great! OH, but wait. That's 25 years. How many people have been born into poverty in that amount of time. Over 3 billion people live on less than $2.50 a day. In the last 25 years, imagine how many people became trapped by poverty. Far more than the mere 137,000 who escaped.
The world is getting better? Wishful thinking.
I could not agree more.
You would argue against irrefutable facts from an oxford economist though. They’re not from bill gates, he didn’t create the stats.
I'm arguing against the conclusions derived from the facts, not the facts themselves. Just as Brian did - that's why I agreed with him.
Oh, that makes sense. Wut.
you ever hear of a little thing called "analyzing data"?
Nope.
but seriously, what’s to be analyzed- things are better in those three stats than they used to be. Things are still not good, but they’re better. Not sure what’s to be analyzed.
Exactly, we need to go back to when women and minorities couldn't vote. When your wife stayed at home barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. When you could just dump your trash in the nearest river. When you could send the boy to go work in the coal mine to earn support the family. The good old days when america was great!
Not that far back, how about say, the 80's ? MAGA
The 80's really sucked ass for an awful lot of people.
That was when wages began to stagnate, the "middle class" started to disappear, and the area we now call the Rust Belt started to get really rusty and then decay. America has never really been great unless you are/were a wealthy (wealthy, not rich, there is a difference) white man.
OK, the 70's work for you? The 60's ? Let me guess, it has always sucked in this nation.. MSCGA (Make the Supreme Court Great Again)
Pretty obvious you're 100% white male
Hey what’s wrong with being a white guy?
Nothing, unless you have zero understanding of history and lack empathy for others.
The obvious point is America was NEVER great... not the 60's or 70's, not now, not ever. Maybe one day, but that seems to be a very distant future right now
Don’t be so negative. It’s not just America, it’s the world. The world is an awful place, but it’s gotten amazingly better in just the last 50 years. If everyone was as negative as you’re being right now there wouldn’t be many people who cared to live their lives at all. Here’s a cool article that made me think about overpopulation and the world as a whole a bit more:
Stay positive, nothing gets achieved when you’re grumpy and negative. dont fall into the “I’m a liberal so I’m mad at everything” bullshit. You can have hopes and be positive regardless of political leanings.
It looks to me like Bill Gates is rather naive when it comes to population. Let's look at the "facts":
Fact #1: Since 1960, child deaths have plummeted from 20 million a year to 6 million a year.
The natural mortality rate for humans is 40%. I recently was told this by a science professor who teaches at a large, well known university on the east coast. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not wishing anyone's child to die but the reality is, our wonderful medical advances have done little to stem over-population.
Fact #2: Since 1960, the fertility rate has fallen by half.
Gates says, "When the fertility rate is close to 2 children per woman, so that every
couple is on average replaced by about two children, population growth
is slow." First of all, the key word here is "when". It hasn't happened. And secondly, since when does women having 2 children reduce population? This is naive in the extreme. Think about it. A twenty five year old woman has two children. When they turn twenty five, they have two children making 4 total. The first mother is still alive. Now we have a population of 7 (from one). When the 4 children have two children, that makes 8 new children and, at 75, the original mother is probably still alive- totally population, 12 to 13. See what I mean? Totally naive.
Fact #3: 137,000 people escaped extreme poverty every day between 1990 and 2015.
That's great! OH, but wait. That's 25 years. How many people have been born into poverty in that amount of time. Over 3 billion people live on less than $2.50 a day. In the last 25 years, imagine how many people became trapped by poverty. Far more than the mere 137,000 who escaped.
The world is getting better? Wishful thinking.
I could not agree more.
You would argue against irrefutable facts from an oxford economist though. They’re not from bill gates, he didn’t create the stats.
I never said that those statistics were false. What I'm suggesting is that you read the statistics with some critical thinking and draw realistic conclusions. Gates failed to do this. What I posted in reply to those facts are simply more facts.
I appreciate your desire to find the silver lining. Of course we all want things to get better. But deceiving ourselves with misleading facts will not make things better. A more logical approach would be to look at the situation truthfully using critical thinking and some basic logic and then say, "OK, we're in a mess. How can we make this better". Really make it better, not just look better.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Exactly, we need to go back to when women and minorities couldn't vote. When your wife stayed at home barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. When you could just dump your trash in the nearest river. When you could send the boy to go work in the coal mine to earn support the family. The good old days when america was great!
Not that far back, how about say, the 80's ? MAGA
The 80's really sucked ass for an awful lot of people.
That was when wages began to stagnate, the "middle class" started to disappear, and the area we now call the Rust Belt started to get really rusty and then decay. America has never really been great unless you are/were a wealthy (wealthy, not rich, there is a difference) white man.
OK, the 70's work for you? The 60's ? Let me guess, it has always sucked in this nation.. MSCGA (Make the Supreme Court Great Again)
Pretty obvious you're 100% white male
Hey what’s wrong with being a white guy?
Nothing, unless you have zero understanding of history and lack empathy for others.
The obvious point is America was NEVER great... not the 60's or 70's, not now, not ever. Maybe one day, but that seems to be a very distant future right now
Don’t be so negative. It’s not just America, it’s the world. The world is an awful place, but it’s gotten amazingly better in just the last 50 years. If everyone was as negative as you’re being right now there wouldn’t be many people who cared to live their lives at all. Here’s a cool article that made me think about overpopulation and the world as a whole a bit more:
Stay positive, nothing gets achieved when you’re grumpy and negative. dont fall into the “I’m a liberal so I’m mad at everything” bullshit. You can have hopes and be positive regardless of political leanings.
It looks to me like Bill Gates is rather naive when it comes to population. Let's look at the "facts":
Fact #1: Since 1960, child deaths have plummeted from 20 million a year to 6 million a year.
The natural mortality rate for humans is 40%. I recently was told this by a science professor who teaches at a large, well known university on the east coast. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not wishing anyone's child to die but the reality is, our wonderful medical advances have done little to stem over-population.
Fact #2: Since 1960, the fertility rate has fallen by half.
Gates says, "When the fertility rate is close to 2 children per woman, so that every
couple is on average replaced by about two children, population growth
is slow." First of all, the key word here is "when". It hasn't happened. And secondly, since when does women having 2 children reduce population? This is naive in the extreme. Think about it. A twenty five year old woman has two children. When they turn twenty five, they have two children making 4 total. The first mother is still alive. Now we have a population of 7 (from one). When the 4 children have two children, that makes 8 new children and, at 75, the original mother is probably still alive- totally population, 12 to 13. See what I mean? Totally naive.
Fact #3: 137,000 people escaped extreme poverty every day between 1990 and 2015.
That's great! OH, but wait. That's 25 years. How many people have been born into poverty in that amount of time. Over 3 billion people live on less than $2.50 a day. In the last 25 years, imagine how many people became trapped by poverty. Far more than the mere 137,000 who escaped.
Exactly, we need to go back to when women and minorities couldn't vote. When your wife stayed at home barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. When you could just dump your trash in the nearest river. When you could send the boy to go work in the coal mine to earn support the family. The good old days when america was great!
Not that far back, how about say, the 80's ? MAGA
The 80's really sucked ass for an awful lot of people.
That was when wages began to stagnate, the "middle class" started to disappear, and the area we now call the Rust Belt started to get really rusty and then decay. America has never really been great unless you are/were a wealthy (wealthy, not rich, there is a difference) white man.
OK, the 70's work for you? The 60's ? Let me guess, it has always sucked in this nation.. MSCGA (Make the Supreme Court Great Again)
Pretty obvious you're 100% white male
Hey what’s wrong with being a white guy?
Nothing, unless you have zero understanding of history and lack empathy for others.
The obvious point is America was NEVER great... not the 60's or 70's, not now, not ever. Maybe one day, but that seems to be a very distant future right now
Don’t be so negative. It’s not just America, it’s the world. The world is an awful place, but it’s gotten amazingly better in just the last 50 years. If everyone was as negative as you’re being right now there wouldn’t be many people who cared to live their lives at all. Here’s a cool article that made me think about overpopulation and the world as a whole a bit more:
Stay positive, nothing gets achieved when you’re grumpy and negative. dont fall into the “I’m a liberal so I’m mad at everything” bullshit. You can have hopes and be positive regardless of political leanings.
It looks to me like Bill Gates is rather naive when it comes to population. Let's look at the "facts":
Fact #1: Since 1960, child deaths have plummeted from 20 million a year to 6 million a year.
The natural mortality rate for humans is 40%. I recently was told this by a science professor who teaches at a large, well known university on the east coast. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not wishing anyone's child to die but the reality is, our wonderful medical advances have done little to stem over-population.
Fact #2: Since 1960, the fertility rate has fallen by half.
Gates says, "When the fertility rate is close to 2 children per woman, so that every
couple is on average replaced by about two children, population growth
is slow." First of all, the key word here is "when". It hasn't happened. And secondly, since when does women having 2 children reduce population? This is naive in the extreme. Think about it. A twenty five year old woman has two children. When they turn twenty five, they have two children making 4 total. The first mother is still alive. Now we have a population of 7 (from one). When the 4 children have two children, that makes 8 new children and, at 75, the original mother is probably still alive- totally population, 12 to 13. See what I mean? Totally naive.
Fact #3: 137,000 people escaped extreme poverty every day between 1990 and 2015.
That's great! OH, but wait. That's 25 years. How many people have been born into poverty in that amount of time. Over 3 billion people live on less than $2.50 a day. In the last 25 years, imagine how many people became trapped by poverty. Far more than the mere 137,000 who escaped.
The world is getting better? Wishful thinking.
I could not agree more.
You would argue against irrefutable facts from an oxford economist though. They’re not from bill gates, he didn’t create the stats.
I never said that those statistics were false. What I'm suggesting is that you read the statistics with some critical thinking and draw realistic conclusions. Gates failed to do this. What I posted in reply to those facts are simply more facts.
I appreciate your desire to find the silver lining. Of course we all want things to get better. But deceiving ourselves with misleading facts will not make things better. A more logical approach would be to look at the situation truthfully using critical thinking and some basic logic and then say, "OK, we're in a mess. How can we make this better". Really make it better, not just look better.
Fair enough, I appreciate the response. I wasn’t posting that to stay an argument, people on here are just quick to attack. I was posting it like you said to see the silver lining. I totally agree things should be better, wasn’t suggesting they’re good enough by any means.
Exactly, we need to go back to when women and minorities couldn't vote. When your wife stayed at home barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. When you could just dump your trash in the nearest river. When you could send the boy to go work in the coal mine to earn support the family. The good old days when america was great!
Not that far back, how about say, the 80's ? MAGA
The 80's really sucked ass for an awful lot of people.
That was when wages began to stagnate, the "middle class" started to disappear, and the area we now call the Rust Belt started to get really rusty and then decay. America has never really been great unless you are/were a wealthy (wealthy, not rich, there is a difference) white man.
OK, the 70's work for you? The 60's ? Let me guess, it has always sucked in this nation.. MSCGA (Make the Supreme Court Great Again)
Pretty obvious you're 100% white male
Hey what’s wrong with being a white guy?
Nothing, unless you have zero understanding of history and lack empathy for others.
The obvious point is America was NEVER great... not the 60's or 70's, not now, not ever. Maybe one day, but that seems to be a very distant future right now
Don’t be so negative. It’s not just America, it’s the world. The world is an awful place, but it’s gotten amazingly better in just the last 50 years. If everyone was as negative as you’re being right now there wouldn’t be many people who cared to live their lives at all. Here’s a cool article that made me think about overpopulation and the world as a whole a bit more:
Stay positive, nothing gets achieved when you’re grumpy and negative. dont fall into the “I’m a liberal so I’m mad at everything” bullshit. You can have hopes and be positive regardless of political leanings.
It looks to me like Bill Gates is rather naive when it comes to population. Let's look at the "facts":
Fact #1: Since 1960, child deaths have plummeted from 20 million a year to 6 million a year.
The natural mortality rate for humans is 40%. I recently was told this by a science professor who teaches at a large, well known university on the east coast. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not wishing anyone's child to die but the reality is, our wonderful medical advances have done little to stem over-population.
Fact #2: Since 1960, the fertility rate has fallen by half.
Gates says, "When the fertility rate is close to 2 children per woman, so that every
couple is on average replaced by about two children, population growth
is slow." First of all, the key word here is "when". It hasn't happened. And secondly, since when does women having 2 children reduce population? This is naive in the extreme. Think about it. A twenty five year old woman has two children. When they turn twenty five, they have two children making 4 total. The first mother is still alive. Now we have a population of 7 (from one). When the 4 children have two children, that makes 8 new children and, at 75, the original mother is probably still alive- totally population, 12 to 13. See what I mean? Totally naive.
Fact #3: 137,000 people escaped extreme poverty every day between 1990 and 2015.
That's great! OH, but wait. That's 25 years. How many people have been born into poverty in that amount of time. Over 3 billion people live on less than $2.50 a day. In the last 25 years, imagine how many people became trapped by poverty. Far more than the mere 137,000 who escaped.
The world is getting better? Wishful thinking.
Wow...those are startling facts.
How so?
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Now as for the SCOTUS issue, yes, we are royally fucked. Yes, this country has royally fucking reamed itself into the ground. R.I.P America (for now).
To be honest, you should take the (for now) out cause you are going to be fucked for a very very long time. say bye to abortion in many states, say bye to gay marriage in many states, you want money taken out of politics? sorry not going to happen.
America is beyond fucked.
I may be wrong or just naive but I don't set this happening. I really hope not anyways.
oh, that is exactly their plan. you can bet on it.
This seems like such a trivial thing to want to overturn. The conservative goal is to overturn Roe vs Wade?
Conservatives have been begging for this for decades. its a part of their cultural war
Yup. And this is what conservative Christians have been using to justify voting for trump the sleeze. They are doing back flips about a changing scotus.
CNN's Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin Says: I think sometimes we talk about the Supreme Court too much in abstractions, about dignity and who is qualified and who is not. Let's talk facts. Let's talk about what America is going to be like that's different. You are going to see 20 states pass laws banning abortion outright. Just banning abortion. Because they know that there are now going to be five votes on the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade. And abortion will be illegal in a significant part of the United States in 18 months. There is just no doubt about that. And that is why these seats matter so much because -- one of my favorite lines about the Supreme Court was by Justice Robert Jackson who served on the Court in the 1940s and '50s. He said "We are not final because we are infallible, but we are infallible only because we are final." Somebody has the last word and here it is the Supreme Court and Roe v. Wade is doomed. It is gone because Donald Trump won the election. And because he's going to have the chance to appoint two Supreme Court Justices.
I agree with Toobin. We're fucked. Gay rights, civil rights, reproductive rights, immigration, speech, etc... Thank goodness Ginsburg has no plans to retire until Drumpf is gone. I just hope her body can keep up with her mind.
Have you seen her work outs? I’m opposite and hopes her mind holds up. Some of those other younger judges aren’t looking so fit, though.
CNN's Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin Says: I think sometimes we talk about the Supreme Court too much in abstractions, about dignity and who is qualified and who is not. Let's talk facts. Let's talk about what America is going to be like that's different. You are going to see 20 states pass laws banning abortion outright. Just banning abortion. Because they know that there are now going to be five votes on the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade. And abortion will be illegal in a significant part of the United States in 18 months. There is just no doubt about that. And that is why these seats matter so much because -- one of my favorite lines about the Supreme Court was by Justice Robert Jackson who served on the Court in the 1940s and '50s. He said "We are not final because we are infallible, but we are infallible only because we are final." Somebody has the last word and here it is the Supreme Court and Roe v. Wade is doomed. It is gone because Donald Trump won the election. And because he's going to have the chance to appoint two Supreme Court Justices.
I agree with Toobin. We're fucked. Gay rights, civil rights, reproductive rights, immigration, speech, etc... Thank goodness Ginsburg has no plans to retire until Drumpf is gone. I just hope her body can keep up with her mind.
Have you seen her work outs? I’m opposite and hopes her mind holds up. Some of those other younger judges aren’t looking so fit, though.
True enough. I know she wants to stick around. She hired 4 staff through 2020, so she's planning on keeping her seat. She's battled and beat colon cancer. Then battled and beat pancreatic cancer. She's had a stent in her coronary artery for several years but seems to be pretty healthy at this point. She's definitely a warrior. She even has an action figure now, lol. Kind of a judicial superhero.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
Exactly, we need to go back to when women and minorities couldn't vote. When your wife stayed at home barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. When you could just dump your trash in the nearest river. When you could send the boy to go work in the coal mine to earn support the family. The good old days when america was great!
Not that far back, how about say, the 80's ? MAGA
The 80's really sucked ass for an awful lot of people.
That was when wages began to stagnate, the "middle class" started to disappear, and the area we now call the Rust Belt started to get really rusty and then decay. America has never really been great unless you are/were a wealthy (wealthy, not rich, there is a difference) white man.
OK, the 70's work for you? The 60's ? Let me guess, it has always sucked in this nation.. MSCGA (Make the Supreme Court Great Again)
Pretty obvious you're 100% white male
Hey what’s wrong with being a white guy?
Nothing, unless you have zero understanding of history and lack empathy for others.
The obvious point is America was NEVER great... not the 60's or 70's, not now, not ever. Maybe one day, but that seems to be a very distant future right now
Don’t be so negative. It’s not just America, it’s the world. The world is an awful place, but it’s gotten amazingly better in just the last 50 years. If everyone was as negative as you’re being right now there wouldn’t be many people who cared to live their lives at all. Here’s a cool article that made me think about overpopulation and the world as a whole a bit more:
Stay positive, nothing gets achieved when you’re grumpy and negative. dont fall into the “I’m a liberal so I’m mad at everything” bullshit. You can have hopes and be positive regardless of political leanings.
It looks to me like Bill Gates is rather naive when it comes to population. Let's look at the "facts":
Fact #1: Since 1960, child deaths have plummeted from 20 million a year to 6 million a year.
The natural mortality rate for humans is 40%. I recently was told this by a science professor who teaches at a large, well known university on the east coast. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not wishing anyone's child to die but the reality is, our wonderful medical advances have done little to stem over-population.
Fact #2: Since 1960, the fertility rate has fallen by half.
Gates says, "When the fertility rate is close to 2 children per woman, so that every
couple is on average replaced by about two children, population growth
is slow." First of all, the key word here is "when". It hasn't happened. And secondly, since when does women having 2 children reduce population? This is naive in the extreme. Think about it. A twenty five year old woman has two children. When they turn twenty five, they have two children making 4 total. The first mother is still alive. Now we have a population of 7 (from one). When the 4 children have two children, that makes 8 new children and, at 75, the original mother is probably still alive- totally population, 12 to 13. See what I mean? Totally naive.
Fact #3: 137,000 people escaped extreme poverty every day between 1990 and 2015.
That's great! OH, but wait. That's 25 years. How many people have been born into poverty in that amount of time. Over 3 billion people live on less than $2.50 a day. In the last 25 years, imagine how many people became trapped by poverty. Far more than the mere 137,000 who escaped.
The world is getting better? Wishful thinking.
Not that I care a lot about what Bill Gates says, but I would agree with fact #2. Having 2 children doesn’t reduce population, but makes the growth stale. Assuming that every woman is a couple of 2 people (the analogy says from 1, but it’s really 2 people. Never heard of 1 woman reproducing by herself) if they are replaced by 2 children it balances out. The math discussion that attempts to disprove that also completely ignores older generations. When she is 25 then we can assume her great-grandparents have died, of which there are a total of 16. By 50 the grandparents and 75 the parents. So that breakdown of parent, grandparent, etc will cancel out
Exactly, we need to go back to when women and minorities couldn't vote. When your wife stayed at home barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. When you could just dump your trash in the nearest river. When you could send the boy to go work in the coal mine to earn support the family. The good old days when america was great!
Not that far back, how about say, the 80's ? MAGA
The 80's really sucked ass for an awful lot of people.
That was when wages began to stagnate, the "middle class" started to disappear, and the area we now call the Rust Belt started to get really rusty and then decay. America has never really been great unless you are/were a wealthy (wealthy, not rich, there is a difference) white man.
OK, the 70's work for you? The 60's ? Let me guess, it has always sucked in this nation.. MSCGA (Make the Supreme Court Great Again)
Pretty obvious you're 100% white male
Hey what’s wrong with being a white guy?
Nothing, unless you have zero understanding of history and lack empathy for others.
The obvious point is America was NEVER great... not the 60's or 70's, not now, not ever. Maybe one day, but that seems to be a very distant future right now
Don’t be so negative. It’s not just America, it’s the world. The world is an awful place, but it’s gotten amazingly better in just the last 50 years. If everyone was as negative as you’re being right now there wouldn’t be many people who cared to live their lives at all. Here’s a cool article that made me think about overpopulation and the world as a whole a bit more:
Stay positive, nothing gets achieved when you’re grumpy and negative. dont fall into the “I’m a liberal so I’m mad at everything” bullshit. You can have hopes and be positive regardless of political leanings.
It looks to me like Bill Gates is rather naive when it comes to population. Let's look at the "facts":
Fact #1: Since 1960, child deaths have plummeted from 20 million a year to 6 million a year.
The natural mortality rate for humans is 40%. I recently was told this by a science professor who teaches at a large, well known university on the east coast. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not wishing anyone's child to die but the reality is, our wonderful medical advances have done little to stem over-population.
Fact #2: Since 1960, the fertility rate has fallen by half.
Gates says, "When the fertility rate is close to 2 children per woman, so that every
couple is on average replaced by about two children, population growth
is slow." First of all, the key word here is "when". It hasn't happened. And secondly, since when does women having 2 children reduce population? This is naive in the extreme. Think about it. A twenty five year old woman has two children. When they turn twenty five, they have two children making 4 total. The first mother is still alive. Now we have a population of 7 (from one). When the 4 children have two children, that makes 8 new children and, at 75, the original mother is probably still alive- totally population, 12 to 13. See what I mean? Totally naive.
Fact #3: 137,000 people escaped extreme poverty every day between 1990 and 2015.
That's great! OH, but wait. That's 25 years. How many people have been born into poverty in that amount of time. Over 3 billion people live on less than $2.50 a day. In the last 25 years, imagine how many people became trapped by poverty. Far more than the mere 137,000 who escaped.
The world is getting better? Wishful thinking.
Now that I’m thinking about it, I must be reading #3 wrong. 137,000 escaped every day? That’s 1.25 billion over 25 years. One, that seems to be way too high of a numbered be accurate to me, and if that is correct, how is that not great?
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I have said repeatedly that if the SCOTUS weren't completely broken it would be motivated by partisanship at all. But it is broken. And the reason I think a more liberal SCOTUS is way more preferable to a very conservative one is because right-leaning judges often tend to ignore the Constitution when it comes to civil and human rights. I prefer a more liberal SCOTUS precisely because I know a right-leaning one will overturn Roe vs Wade, and will make other decisions that violate the rights of women and LGBTQ.
So you're not going to actually answer the original question? Is that because you don't have a real answer or what?
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CNN's Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin Says:I think sometimes we talk about the Supreme Court too much in abstractions, about dignity and who is qualified and who is not. Let's talk facts. Let's talk about what America is going to be like that's different. You are going to see 20 states pass laws banning abortion outright. Just banning abortion. Because they know that there are now going to be five votes on the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade. And abortion will be illegal in a significant part of the United States in 18 months. There is just no doubt about that. And that is why these seats matter so much because -- one of my favorite lines about the Supreme Court was by Justice Robert Jackson who served on the Court in the 1940s and '50s. He said "We are not final because we are infallible, but we are infallible only because we are final." Somebody has the last word and here it is the Supreme Court and Roe v. Wade is doomed. It is gone because Donald Trump won the election. And because he's going to have the chance to appoint two Supreme Court Justices.
I agree with Toobin. We're fucked. Gay rights, civil rights, reproductive rights, immigration, speech, etc... Thank goodness Ginsburg has no plans to retire until Drumpf is gone. I just hope her body can keep up with her mind.
With The Party of Trump, we no longer have checks and balances. Congress does our Supreme Leader's bidding. And SCOTUS will as well. Hopefully Drumpf doesn't decide to declare himself King. I'm sure McConnell, Ryan, Nunes, Gorsuch, Sessions, et al will be lining up to become his most trusted vassals.
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but seriously, what’s to be analyzed- things are better in those three stats than they used to be. Things are still not good, but they’re better. Not sure what’s to be analyzed.
Having 2 children doesn’t reduce population, but makes the growth stale.
Assuming that every woman is a couple of 2 people (the analogy says from 1, but it’s really 2 people. Never heard of 1 woman reproducing by herself) if they are replaced by 2 children it balances out. The math discussion that attempts to disprove that also completely ignores older generations. When she is 25 then we can assume her great-grandparents have died, of which there are a total of 16. By 50 the grandparents and 75 the parents. So that breakdown of parent, grandparent, etc will cancel out