2018 Euro Merch

PJ_Soul

tempo_n_groove said:

willbarclay said:

Dr. Delight said:

just_one said:

Man, I would feel like an absolute tool standing there in line with 30+ posters.

Are those pennants or posters?

I certainly hope so, because that's no way to handle posters.

PJ_Soul

js261067 said:

Again again again. Let us order a poster for collection when we buy our tickets. Then let people buy as many as they want on the day because those that want one regardless, get one. It’s not hard. I booked tickets to a gig the other day and was offered to buy the artists new album. How hard can it be?

also, stop the poster reveals before the gig. The only reason they sell out is because scalpers watch the channels and get a feel for desirability.  Adds some  mystery as well 

I’m going to London 2.5 and am already anxious about the poster situation. I’ve got posters for every PJ I’ve been to except Hammersmith last year and it simply isn’t ‘fair’ that having to go to work that day could cost me the opportunity to own a momento of the day. We got lucky at London 1, partly I expect because it wasn’t a ‘must have’ print but still stood in the queue panicking that they’d all gone. 

That's a good point.

demetrios

https://twitter.com/f_francavilla/status/1012092057719066624?s=19

JDime20

Am I the only one disappointed that the stickers just follow a template and aren’t unique?

MedozK

PJ_Soul said:

js261067 said:

Again again again. Let us order a poster for collection when we buy our tickets. Then let people buy as many as they want on the day because those that want one regardless, get one. It’s not hard. I booked tickets to a gig the other day and was offered to buy the artists new album. How hard can it be?

also, stop the poster reveals before the gig. The only reason they sell out is because scalpers watch the channels and get a feel for desirability.  Adds some  mystery as well 

I’m going to London 2.5 and am already anxious about the poster situation. I’ve got posters for every PJ I’ve been to except Hammersmith last year and it simply isn’t ‘fair’ that having to go to work that day could cost me the opportunity to own a momento of the day. We got lucky at London 1, partly I expect because it wasn’t a ‘must have’ print but still stood in the queue panicking that they’d all gone. 

That's a good point.

10C feeds the hype beast by doing this.. all their merch sells out. They’ve got a great thing going, I don’t see them changing anything.

HesCalledDyer

jcmitchell28 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

The Emek is excllent as an art print.  Would love to have one without "Pearl Jam" on it.  As a show/gig poster, it doesn't work for me.  None of these do. Milan is the closest.

They were selling the Milan print in Rome. Even had it still up after the show. It should be available through 10c soon. 

Oh I'm not after one.  Just commenting on personal taste.  To me, the Milan is the most "show poster" out of them all.  It reminds me the most of the era when posters were created to be slapped on walls, windows, and lampposts around the city to advertise the upcoming shows.  

The art on these other posters is fantastic - don't get me wrong - they just don't seem like show/gig posters to me anymore. They're too creative, too detailed, too colorful.  They're art illustrations with words slapped on them.  The band names and dates and places seem so out of place on the prints. But I guess that's the direction the industry has evolved.

HesCalledDyer

PJ_Soul said:

LN241653 said:

Someone(supposedly a pj fan) on eBay has this poster on for £500 smackers, this is just crazy, please no one buy it, he also has a football top on for £400, all we can do as a group is out them and don’t buy anything.

SAY NO TO FLIPPERS

You are totally right, but unfortunately that's a futile request. While some won't provide income to these people (I sure won't), there is no way in hell that these fucking flippers aren't going to find plenty of fans who don't give a shit about anything besides getting what they want.

And who have the expendable cash to get it.

jcmitchell28

HesCalledDyer said:

jcmitchell28 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

The Emek is excllent as an art print.  Would love to have one without "Pearl Jam" on it.  As a show/gig poster, it doesn't work for me.  None of these do. Milan is the closest.

They were selling the Milan print in Rome. Even had it still up after the show. It should be available through 10c soon. 

Oh I'm not after one.  Just commenting on personal taste.  To me, the Milan is the most "show poster" out of them all.  It reminds me the most of the era when posters were created to be slapped on walls, windows, and lampposts around the city to advertise the upcoming shows.  

The art on these other posters is fantastic - don't get me wrong - they just don't seem like show/gig posters to me anymore. They're too creative, too detailed, too colorful.  They're art illustrations with words slapped on them.  The band names and dates and places seem so out of place on the prints. But I guess that's the direction the industry has evolved.

I agree. They seem to lack a little grit and edge these days. 

23scidoo

demetrios said:

PJNB said:

cp3iverson said:

It really comes down to being cool to your fellow fan/community member 

im all for selling used products on Lost Dogs for the going rate but taking away the opportunity for fans in line to buy their $35 poster so you can flip it for 10x the amount is pretty rotten.  Maybe there’s too fine of a line in that statement but i dont think so.  

No fine line at all. Make it 1 per person and we are good. No more room to trade or flip your extra. No multiples at all. I think 10 club thinks if they do this the not so hot prints are going to sell even worse then they would with a 2 poster limit. They should try it out for the 2019 tour and see how it works imo. 

The problem is the folks behind the Pearl Jam merch tables. The company hiring these workers are not smart at all. No good training. You wave cash in front of their faces & they won't remember what the merch limit rules are. They need to teach them a lesson on selling merchandise to customers .. with guidelines & rules. Where if one see's someone giving a customer more then the limit of items they should stop that sale right away. But nope. They let it go cause nobody cares. They put up those merch limit signs as a joke.

Exactly Demetrios..

pdalowsky

Really not a fan of the waffles, in fact i think they suck, but its hard to knock people for doing it when you see the demand and the stampede to take part. Its insane, and dumb imo, but its only getting more popular. 

The flipping aspect of the merch is absolutely no different now to how it was in 2008 and 2010 and 2012 etc, its always been there and the whole concept of limited appeal and the hype machine keeps the goods in demand. People see the flipping opportunity, they take it and that fuels the next cycle. 

I would be surprised if the band moved to stop this, as the whole demand and insanity around buying this stuff is what makes Pearl Jam stuff so collectible and popular. 

tempo_n_groove

JDime20 said:

Am I the only one disappointed that the stickers just follow a template and aren’t unique?

You mean you don't like the red and black oval with a statue on it for every single location?  You want variety?

Shame on you...

helplessdancer

PJ_Soul said:

You are totally right, but unfortunately that's a futile request. While some won't provide income to these people (I sure won't), there is no way in hell that these fucking flippers aren't going to find plenty of fans who don't give a shit about anything besides getting what they want.

include me here  lol
i ONLY go to ebay now to buy my posters that i want/need. paid 2.5times the list price for telluride and was happy with the purchase!!
i don't mind paying anyone to wait 2+ hours in a line to get me a poster, one that gets delivered to my home with zero hassles a week after the show! especially in a place as beautiful as telluride. 2+ hours in a line up for a poster...no thanks!!
morally it's wrong but so is the way PJ handle merch/posters for real fans who go to the shows...so i don't care anymore 
right now i'm looking for seattle 2018 stickers and will pay 3 times face value...anyone want to get me one/two please PM me!!

buck502000

helplessdancer said:

PJ_Soul said:

You are totally right, but unfortunately that's a futile request. While some won't provide income to these people (I sure won't), there is no way in hell that these fucking flippers aren't going to find plenty of fans who don't give a shit about anything besides getting what they want.

include me here  lol
i ONLY go to ebay now to buy my posters that i want/need. paid 2.5times the list price for telluride and was happy with the purchase!!
i don't mind paying anyone to wait 2+ hours in a line to get me a poster, one that gets delivered to my home with zero hassles a week after the show! especially in a place as beautiful as telluride. 2+ hours in a line up for a poster...no thanks!!
morally it's wrong but so is the way PJ handle merch/posters for real fans who go to the shows...so i don't care anymore 
right now i'm looking for seattle 2018 stickers and will pay 3 times face value...anyone want to get me one/two please PM me!!

Yes. I refuse to waste time in cool city waiting in line.  Peak insanity was NYC 2015, almost was late to the Colbert show taping because I was inline for stuff.  They didn’t even have what I wanted, when I got to the front. Never again!!!

Weston1283

buck502000 said:

helplessdancer said:

PJ_Soul said:

You are totally right, but unfortunately that's a futile request. While some won't provide income to these people (I sure won't), there is no way in hell that these fucking flippers aren't going to find plenty of fans who don't give a shit about anything besides getting what they want.

include me here  lol
i ONLY go to ebay now to buy my posters that i want/need. paid 2.5times the list price for telluride and was happy with the purchase!!
i don't mind paying anyone to wait 2+ hours in a line to get me a poster, one that gets delivered to my home with zero hassles a week after the show! especially in a place as beautiful as telluride. 2+ hours in a line up for a poster...no thanks!!
morally it's wrong but so is the way PJ handle merch/posters for real fans who go to the shows...so i don't care anymore 
right now i'm looking for seattle 2018 stickers and will pay 3 times face value...anyone want to get me one/two please PM me!!

Yes. I refuse to waste time in cool city waiting in line.  Peak insanity was NYC 2015, almost was late to the Colbert show taping because I was inline for stuff.  They didn’t even have what I wanted, when I got to the front. Never again!!!

Agreed.  I take my chances with the 10c and artist drops.  If I miss those, I just save up and buy on Facebook or eBay.  Its just not worth waiting hours in line, especially if I’m traveling to a new city 

MayDay10

Weston1283 said:

buck502000 said:

helplessdancer said:

PJ_Soul said:

You are totally right, but unfortunately that's a futile request. While some won't provide income to these people (I sure won't), there is no way in hell that these fucking flippers aren't going to find plenty of fans who don't give a shit about anything besides getting what they want.

include me here  lol
i ONLY go to ebay now to buy my posters that i want/need. paid 2.5times the list price for telluride and was happy with the purchase!!
i don't mind paying anyone to wait 2+ hours in a line to get me a poster, one that gets delivered to my home with zero hassles a week after the show! especially in a place as beautiful as telluride. 2+ hours in a line up for a poster...no thanks!!
morally it's wrong but so is the way PJ handle merch/posters for real fans who go to the shows...so i don't care anymore 
right now i'm looking for seattle 2018 stickers and will pay 3 times face value...anyone want to get me one/two please PM me!!

Yes. I refuse to waste time in cool city waiting in line.  Peak insanity was NYC 2015, almost was late to the Colbert show taping because I was inline for stuff.  They didn’t even have what I wanted, when I got to the front. Never again!!!

Agreed.  I take my chances with the 10c and artist drops.  If I miss those, I just save up and buy on Facebook or eBay.  Its just not worth waiting hours in line, especially if I’m traveling to a new city 

There's the line.  Which is such a stressful cluster.  No rhyme or reason, often a mass of people feeding randomly to 3 or 4 workers who work at different paces.  You also get the people who get to the front who dont yet know what they want, and also check out various sizes and styles... 

And also the curse of lugging a poster around a show... if not, additional time transporting the poster to a hotel and/or a car. 

As far as everything else, I'm pretty much checked out.  I don't feel like my style is concert or band tees or hoodies any longer.  Stickers I like, but I dont need to froth at the mouth for concert ones.  Plenty of cool stickers come from many sources.  Zippos, wallets, any miscellaneous items, I am completely immune to at this point.  

I like to have a poster from each show I go to, and also (occasionally) spot a must-have (like "the catch").  Im not joining that frenzy at the show merch stand unless Im johnny on the spot.

Indifference71

Weston1283 said:

buck502000 said:

helplessdancer said:

PJ_Soul said:

You are totally right, but unfortunately that's a futile request. While some won't provide income to these people (I sure won't), there is no way in hell that these fucking flippers aren't going to find plenty of fans who don't give a shit about anything besides getting what they want.

include me here  lol
i ONLY go to ebay now to buy my posters that i want/need. paid 2.5times the list price for telluride and was happy with the purchase!!
i don't mind paying anyone to wait 2+ hours in a line to get me a poster, one that gets delivered to my home with zero hassles a week after the show! especially in a place as beautiful as telluride. 2+ hours in a line up for a poster...no thanks!!
morally it's wrong but so is the way PJ handle merch/posters for real fans who go to the shows...so i don't care anymore 
right now i'm looking for seattle 2018 stickers and will pay 3 times face value...anyone want to get me one/two please PM me!!

Yes. I refuse to waste time in cool city waiting in line.  Peak insanity was NYC 2015, almost was late to the Colbert show taping because I was inline for stuff.  They didn’t even have what I wanted, when I got to the front. Never again!!!

Agreed.  I take my chances with the 10c and artist drops.  If I miss those, I just save up and buy on Facebook or eBay.  Its just not worth waiting hours in line, especially if I’m traveling to a new city 

Yep.  I won't even wait in line in my own city.  The whole scene has gotten absolutely ridiculous.  

KICK7071

Indifference71 said:

Weston1283 said:

buck502000 said:

Yes. I refuse to waste time in cool city waiting in line.  Peak insanity was NYC 2015, almost was late to the Colbert show taping because I was inline for stuff.  They didn’t even have what I wanted, when I got to the front. Never again!!!

Agreed.  I take my chances with the 10c and artist drops.  If I miss those, I just save up and buy on Facebook or eBay.  Its just not worth waiting hours in line, especially if I’m traveling to a new city 

Yep.  I won't even wait in line in my own city.  The whole scene has gotten absolutely ridiculous.  

I saw the lines at Amsterdam and said F it!  Went for a burger and beers instead.  Much more civilized ! 

willbarclay

helplessdancer said:

include me here  lol
i ONLY go to ebay now to buy my posters that i want/need. paid 2.5times the list price for telluride and was happy with the purchase!!
i don't mind paying anyone to wait 2+ hours in a line to get me a poster, one that gets delivered to my home with zero hassles a week after the show! especially in a place as beautiful as telluride. 2+ hours in a line up for a poster...no thanks!!
morally it's wrong but so is the way PJ handle merch/posters for real fans who go to the shows...so i don't care anymore 
right now i'm looking for seattle 2018 stickers and will pay 3 times face value...anyone want to get me one/two please PM me!!

I too am in this boat. I don't mind paying extra if that means less hassle for me. I thank the flippers for that.

But I do not agree with the flipper who's buying 20 posters. That's taking it to far.

js261067

For a band that took ticketmaster to task over inflated charges for "real music fans" this all seems like a massive F'ck you.  If I want a poster,  to a gig I paid to see,  I shouldn't have any trouble getting one.   

tempo_n_groove

buck502000 said:

helplessdancer said:

PJ_Soul said:

You are totally right, but unfortunately that's a futile request. While some won't provide income to these people (I sure won't), there is no way in hell that these fucking flippers aren't going to find plenty of fans who don't give a shit about anything besides getting what they want.

include me here  lol
i ONLY go to ebay now to buy my posters that i want/need. paid 2.5times the list price for telluride and was happy with the purchase!!
i don't mind paying anyone to wait 2+ hours in a line to get me a poster, one that gets delivered to my home with zero hassles a week after the show! especially in a place as beautiful as telluride. 2+ hours in a line up for a poster...no thanks!!
morally it's wrong but so is the way PJ handle merch/posters for real fans who go to the shows...so i don't care anymore 
right now i'm looking for seattle 2018 stickers and will pay 3 times face value...anyone want to get me one/two please PM me!!

Yes. I refuse to waste time in cool city waiting in line.  Peak insanity was NYC 2015, almost was late to the Colbert show taping because I was inline for stuff.  They didn’t even have what I wanted, when I got to the front. Never again!!!

I went up to you and said Hello on that line.

What a mess that was.  It's the last time anything made was "limited".  Those hats and posters were limited.