2018 Euro Merch

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  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    I’m happy these artists are getting paid!!!!
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,994
    MayDay10 said:
    People shouldn't be needing 2 posters
    Yup 
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,020
    Artists should just start charging $250 per artist proof.  Rather them get the money than the flippers.  People would complain about them being "greedy" but it would cut down on secondary market.
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • Sarava
    Sarava Naperville, IL Posts: 2,061
    Artists should just start charging $250 per artist proof.  Rather them get the money than the flippers.  People would complain about them being "greedy" but it would cut down on secondary market.
    They would have a lot of unsold artist proofs then. Not a good idea.
  • kce8
    kce8 Posts: 1,636
    Artists should just start charging $250 per artist proof.  Rather them get the money than the flippers.  People would complain about them being "greedy" but it would cut down on secondary market.
    You are not serious, right!? :o
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,020
    edited June 2018
    Start them at 200-250... if they don't sell, drop it by 50 and let it sit for a week or two and drop it another 50 and so on.  Flipping is never going to end.  Theres only so much an artist can do to cut down on it.  Its not fair of us to expect them to have a perfect sale system where not a single print is flipped.  
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,994
    Sarava said:
    Artists should just start charging $250 per artist proof.  Rather them get the money than the flippers.  People would complain about them being "greedy" but it would cut down on secondary market.
    They would have a lot of unsold artist proofs then. Not a good idea.
    Agreed.  People pay $ 250 on the secondary market because they watched the original run sell out and couldn’t get one. Making the cost $250 from the start would make it tougher to sell out during the artist sale. 
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,020
    on2legs said:
    Sarava said:
    Artists should just start charging $250 per artist proof.  Rather them get the money than the flippers.  People would complain about them being "greedy" but it would cut down on secondary market.
    They would have a lot of unsold artist proofs then. Not a good idea.
    Agreed.  People pay $ 250 on the secondary market because they watched the original run sell out and couldn’t get one. Making the cost $250 from the start would make it tougher to sell out during the artist sale. 
    Flippers flip to make a profit.  End the profits, end the flipping.  
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • crookedcross
    crookedcross Right Near Da Beach, Boiii Posts: 1,546
    edited June 2018
    Artists should just start charging $250 per artist proof.  Rather them get the money than the flippers.  People would complain about them being "greedy" but it would cut down on secondary market.
    No way.  I enjoy my <$100 APs
  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    edited June 2018
    Artists should just start charging $250 per artist proof.  Rather them get the money than the flippers.  People would complain about them being "greedy" but it would cut down on secondary market.
    Not a fan   

    The solution to me is to keep APs at 100 count but sell more show editions on 10club.  Artists cant take the chance of losing their own sales. And 1 poster per person is a good enough rule. 
    Post edited by cp3iverson on
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,020
    Another idea I thought would work.  Lotteries with a non-refundable entry fee to avoid someone using 50 email addresses to get the number right.

    Charge $10 to enter the lottery for a poster.  Give the lottery proceeds to charity.  Another way to cut out a flippers profit margin.
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,537
    Another idea I thought would work.  Lotteries with a non-refundable entry fee to avoid someone using 50 email addresses to get the number right.

    Charge $10 to enter the lottery for a poster.  Give the lottery proceeds to charity.  Another way to cut out a flippers profit margin.
    Another horrible idea...  You want me to pay for a chance to buy the AP?  Ummm, no.

    Do what Emek does and ask questions or a real lottery.  He only releases half of his AP's though and archives the rest to resell later...
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,994
    on2legs said:
    Sarava said:
    Artists should just start charging $250 per artist proof.  Rather them get the money than the flippers.  People would complain about them being "greedy" but it would cut down on secondary market.
    They would have a lot of unsold artist proofs then. Not a good idea.
    Agreed.  People pay $ 250 on the secondary market because they watched the original run sell out and couldn’t get one. Making the cost $250 from the start would make it tougher to sell out during the artist sale. 
    Flippers flip to make a profit.  End the profits, end the flipping.  
     I agree somewhat with you. But there is a supply and demand to flipping and these posters are a status symbol to people.  If there’s no initial demand for them because the price is too high from the artist then they sit on the site.  And people don’t tend to want an item everyone can have.  They want the status of the sold out item in their collection.  Otherwise fallasheep would be worth big money. 
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • Garasauras
    Garasauras Ontario Posts: 233
    Lottery is a good idea for posters, but proof of ticket stub would be cool too for those who were at the shows.

    But if they keep releasing undesirable merch that no one likes, then the flippers will have no market.
    I’m sorry but those four eyed Williams designs are awful!!!
  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,623
    Lottery is a good idea for posters, but proof of ticket stub would be cool too for those who were at the shows.

    But if they keep releasing undesirable merch that no one likes, then the flippers will have no market.
    I’m sorry but those four eyed Williams designs are awful!!!
    Proof of ticket stubs for the AP’s? Why should they be more entitled to one if it isn’t a SE? Same with the random drops after the shows, no one should be entitled to them. 

    Keep the AP’s below $100 please and thank you. It’s already expensive enough to collect. 

    The Jackson situation is messed up. His logic for 2 per person was to “allow more people to buy them.” How 1 per wouldn’t do that I dont know. But now he backs off on his own policy and just cancels the people with doubles, not fair imo. I didn’t try, so I don’t care too much, but bad practice. 
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  • RP112579
    RP112579 Tinley Park, IL Posts: 3,388
    The artists should raffle off the AP's on Facebook
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    10/11/13 Pittsburgh-Consol Energy Center
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,537
    RP112579 said:
    The artists should raffle off the AP's on Facebook
    That's funny!
  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    Have 10c produce more show editions.  APs will always be limited by nature and they should be. 
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,325
    Have 10c produce more show editions.  APs will always be limited by nature and they should be. 
    It's one single run - not a separate run for each edition.

    X amount of posters are simply pulled and shipped to the artist so they can be signed and numbered.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    I have a friend that is confused about how the merch is sold for London before the show. The message said inside at 2:00pm. I take it there is a spot before security that they use? I told him it will be easy to find but just curious if there was any more info someone could share.