Roseanne Barr

rgambs

PJ_Soul said:

Meanwhile, Law & Order: SVU is still a super popular network show where we can enjoy seeing women raped and children molested and murdered. And on the news we get to watch civilians get gunned down by America's allies, in living colour ... But yeah, the C-word is definitely a no-no on late night cable! For shame, all of us who aren't scandalized by a word some people find offensive!!

Puritanism 101 right there!

benjs

PJ_Soul said:

tbergs said:

fife said:

HesCalledDyer said:

cincybearcat said:

tbergs said:

Just an observation, but it seems most on here are also refraining from actually typing the word "cunt" and opting for c-word, but we've all dropped other cuss words without a second thought. Is it because it does carry more weight in our current culture or because we're afraid the mods will become upset, which goes back to my first point? 

Because like it or not, words take on meanings and become worse than other words....and the c-word is one of those bad words.  Its a dehumanizing way to degrade a woman. 

But is it, though?  LIke I mentioned before, the US seems to be the only majority English-speaking nation that has a problem with it.  I call my male friends cunts quite a bit.  Has nothing to do with dehumanzing a female and I don't think of females or female anatomy when I call them that, nor is it the intended reference.  It's just my way of saying  "you fucking idiot!"  Like the English & Aussies do.

American women are also often digusted & offended by another word.  Next thing you know we won't be able to say "moist" in public.

there are so many issues with this post.

1st off, its not just a US issue. 

2nd do you call your female friends the c-word alot also?  i find it interesting that you write male friends instead.

3rd, I know many woman who have been called c by men who were abusive toward them.  it is a dehumanzing term.

4th, i like how you just basically say to woman to suck it up about words and then compare the C word to moist

Abused women, children and men are called a lot of things which include every swear word you can think of, so that would be like saying every swear word is dehumanizing. Bitch is a female dog in heat and is the only one I can think of that derives from an animal. We shit, fuck and piss so the rest have all derived from some part of our anatomy or bodily functions. 

Exactly. Singling out the c-word makes absolutely no sense at all.
Context is everything. If you call an abused woman a stupid jerk while she's being abused, that is no better at all. But that isn't stopping people from saying stupid jerk.

Meanwhile, it's truly a testament to the power of distraction that on a thread titled Roseanne Barr, created about her abhorrent comparison of black persons to apes, we're talking about the validity of the c-word.

cincybearcat

PJ_Soul said:

Meanwhile, Law & Order: SVU is still a super popular network show where we can enjoy seeing women raped and children molested and murdered. And on the news we get to watch civilians get gunned down by America's allies, in living colour ... But yeah, the C-word is definitely a no-no on late night cable! For shame, all of us who aren't scandalized by a word some people find offensive!!

Well then who gives a shit about anything else....

cincybearcat

PJ_Soul said:

tbergs said:

fife said:

HesCalledDyer said:

cincybearcat said:

tbergs said:

Just an observation, but it seems most on here are also refraining from actually typing the word "cunt" and opting for c-word, but we've all dropped other cuss words without a second thought. Is it because it does carry more weight in our current culture or because we're afraid the mods will become upset, which goes back to my first point? 

Because like it or not, words take on meanings and become worse than other words....and the c-word is one of those bad words.  Its a dehumanizing way to degrade a woman. 

But is it, though?  LIke I mentioned before, the US seems to be the only majority English-speaking nation that has a problem with it.  I call my male friends cunts quite a bit.  Has nothing to do with dehumanzing a female and I don't think of females or female anatomy when I call them that, nor is it the intended reference.  It's just my way of saying  "you fucking idiot!"  Like the English & Aussies do.

American women are also often digusted & offended by another word.  Next thing you know we won't be able to say "moist" in public.

there are so many issues with this post.

1st off, its not just a US issue. 

2nd do you call your female friends the c-word alot also?  i find it interesting that you write male friends instead.

3rd, I know many woman who have been called c by men who were abusive toward them.  it is a dehumanzing term.

4th, i like how you just basically say to woman to suck it up about words and then compare the C word to moist

Abused women, children and men are called a lot of things which include every swear word you can think of, so that would be like saying every swear word is dehumanizing. Bitch is a female dog in heat and is the only one I can think of that derives from an animal. We shit, fuck and piss so the rest have all derived from some part of our anatomy or bodily functions. 

Exactly. Singling out the c-word makes absolutely no sense at all.
Context is everything. If you call an abused woman a stupid jerk while she's being abused, that is no better at all. But that isn't stopping people from saying stupid jerk.

Right context is everything.  If you call your buddy a c-word cause he spilled his beer on you, that's one thing.  If you use it while attacking a woman for something you disagree with it's a completely other thing.  But of course since we have the news on TV and other violent shows fuck it, let's allow everything!!!

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

tbergs said:

fife said:

HesCalledDyer said:

cincybearcat said:

tbergs said:

Just an observation, but it seems most on here are also refraining from actually typing the word "cunt" and opting for c-word, but we've all dropped other cuss words without a second thought. Is it because it does carry more weight in our current culture or because we're afraid the mods will become upset, which goes back to my first point? 

Because like it or not, words take on meanings and become worse than other words....and the c-word is one of those bad words.  Its a dehumanizing way to degrade a woman. 

But is it, though?  LIke I mentioned before, the US seems to be the only majority English-speaking nation that has a problem with it.  I call my male friends cunts quite a bit.  Has nothing to do with dehumanzing a female and I don't think of females or female anatomy when I call them that, nor is it the intended reference.  It's just my way of saying  "you fucking idiot!"  Like the English & Aussies do.

American women are also often digusted & offended by another word.  Next thing you know we won't be able to say "moist" in public.

there are so many issues with this post.

1st off, its not just a US issue. 

2nd do you call your female friends the c-word alot also?  i find it interesting that you write male friends instead.

3rd, I know many woman who have been called c by men who were abusive toward them.  it is a dehumanzing term.

4th, i like how you just basically say to woman to suck it up about words and then compare the C word to moist

Abused women, children and men are called a lot of things which include every swear word you can think of, so that would be like saying every swear word is dehumanizing. Bitch is a female dog in heat and is the only one I can think of that derives from an animal. We shit, fuck and piss so the rest have all derived from some part of our anatomy or bodily functions. 

Exactly. Singling out the c-word makes absolutely no sense at all.
Context is everything. If you call an abused woman a stupid jerk while she's being abused, that is no better at all. But that isn't stopping people from saying stupid jerk.

Steve Martin stars in: The Cunt

PJ_Soul

benjs said:

PJ_Soul said:

tbergs said:

fife said:

HesCalledDyer said:

cincybearcat said:

tbergs said:

Just an observation, but it seems most on here are also refraining from actually typing the word "cunt" and opting for c-word, but we've all dropped other cuss words without a second thought. Is it because it does carry more weight in our current culture or because we're afraid the mods will become upset, which goes back to my first point? 

Because like it or not, words take on meanings and become worse than other words....and the c-word is one of those bad words.  Its a dehumanizing way to degrade a woman. 

But is it, though?  LIke I mentioned before, the US seems to be the only majority English-speaking nation that has a problem with it.  I call my male friends cunts quite a bit.  Has nothing to do with dehumanzing a female and I don't think of females or female anatomy when I call them that, nor is it the intended reference.  It's just my way of saying  "you fucking idiot!"  Like the English & Aussies do.

American women are also often digusted & offended by another word.  Next thing you know we won't be able to say "moist" in public.

there are so many issues with this post.

1st off, its not just a US issue. 

2nd do you call your female friends the c-word alot also?  i find it interesting that you write male friends instead.

3rd, I know many woman who have been called c by men who were abusive toward them.  it is a dehumanzing term.

4th, i like how you just basically say to woman to suck it up about words and then compare the C word to moist

Abused women, children and men are called a lot of things which include every swear word you can think of, so that would be like saying every swear word is dehumanizing. Bitch is a female dog in heat and is the only one I can think of that derives from an animal. We shit, fuck and piss so the rest have all derived from some part of our anatomy or bodily functions. 

Exactly. Singling out the c-word makes absolutely no sense at all.
Context is everything. If you call an abused woman a stupid jerk while she's being abused, that is no better at all. But that isn't stopping people from saying stupid jerk.

Meanwhile, it's truly a testament to the power of distraction that on a thread titled Roseanne Barr, created about her abhorrent comparison of black persons to apes, we're talking about the validity of the c-word.

Lol. Well, I figure just about anything is worth talking about. This conversation has definitely not made me forget about how Roseanne did the ape/black thing... Man, it really surprises me that people still have thoughts like that in their heads. Though I think that about the n-word too. My god, I've never actually known anyone who would ever even have it occur to them to actually use that word to describe black people. I mean, obviously they're out there, even in Canada, among our own white supremacist crowd, but I've never once heard anyone use it in that context. The only context I've heard it said in in person is when we're actually discussing the use of the word, and in a few jokes that were told precisely because they were supposed to be shocking. Overall, in my life, the word just doesn't even register in most people's heads.

pjhawks

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

tbergs said:

fife said:

HesCalledDyer said:

cincybearcat said:

tbergs said:

Just an observation, but it seems most on here are also refraining from actually typing the word "cunt" and opting for c-word, but we've all dropped other cuss words without a second thought. Is it because it does carry more weight in our current culture or because we're afraid the mods will become upset, which goes back to my first point? 

Because like it or not, words take on meanings and become worse than other words....and the c-word is one of those bad words.  Its a dehumanizing way to degrade a woman. 

But is it, though?  LIke I mentioned before, the US seems to be the only majority English-speaking nation that has a problem with it.  I call my male friends cunts quite a bit.  Has nothing to do with dehumanzing a female and I don't think of females or female anatomy when I call them that, nor is it the intended reference.  It's just my way of saying  "you fucking idiot!"  Like the English & Aussies do.

American women are also often digusted & offended by another word.  Next thing you know we won't be able to say "moist" in public.

there are so many issues with this post.

1st off, its not just a US issue. 

2nd do you call your female friends the c-word alot also?  i find it interesting that you write male friends instead.

3rd, I know many woman who have been called c by men who were abusive toward them.  it is a dehumanzing term.

4th, i like how you just basically say to woman to suck it up about words and then compare the C word to moist

Abused women, children and men are called a lot of things which include every swear word you can think of, so that would be like saying every swear word is dehumanizing. Bitch is a female dog in heat and is the only one I can think of that derives from an animal. We shit, fuck and piss so the rest have all derived from some part of our anatomy or bodily functions. 

Exactly. Singling out the c-word makes absolutely no sense at all.
Context is everything. If you call an abused woman a stupid jerk while she's being abused, that is no better at all. But that isn't stopping people from saying stupid jerk.

Right context is everything.  If you call your buddy a c-word cause he spilled his beer on you, that's one thing.  If you use it while attacking a woman for something you disagree with it's a completely other thing.  But of course since we have the news on TV and other violent shows fuck it, let's allow everything!!!

exactly. not sure why this is so hard for some to understand.

and does Law and Order show actual rape and abuse?  not that i'm aware of but I honestly don't watch it.

cincybearcat

benjs said:

PJ_Soul said:

tbergs said:

fife said:

HesCalledDyer said:

cincybearcat said:

tbergs said:

Just an observation, but it seems most on here are also refraining from actually typing the word "cunt" and opting for c-word, but we've all dropped other cuss words without a second thought. Is it because it does carry more weight in our current culture or because we're afraid the mods will become upset, which goes back to my first point? 

Because like it or not, words take on meanings and become worse than other words....and the c-word is one of those bad words.  Its a dehumanizing way to degrade a woman. 

But is it, though?  LIke I mentioned before, the US seems to be the only majority English-speaking nation that has a problem with it.  I call my male friends cunts quite a bit.  Has nothing to do with dehumanzing a female and I don't think of females or female anatomy when I call them that, nor is it the intended reference.  It's just my way of saying  "you fucking idiot!"  Like the English & Aussies do.

American women are also often digusted & offended by another word.  Next thing you know we won't be able to say "moist" in public.

there are so many issues with this post.

1st off, its not just a US issue. 

2nd do you call your female friends the c-word alot also?  i find it interesting that you write male friends instead.

3rd, I know many woman who have been called c by men who were abusive toward them.  it is a dehumanzing term.

4th, i like how you just basically say to woman to suck it up about words and then compare the C word to moist

Abused women, children and men are called a lot of things which include every swear word you can think of, so that would be like saying every swear word is dehumanizing. Bitch is a female dog in heat and is the only one I can think of that derives from an animal. We shit, fuck and piss so the rest have all derived from some part of our anatomy or bodily functions. 

Exactly. Singling out the c-word makes absolutely no sense at all.
Context is everything. If you call an abused woman a stupid jerk while she's being abused, that is no better at all. But that isn't stopping people from saying stupid jerk.

Meanwhile, it's truly a testament to the power of distraction that on a thread titled Roseanne Barr, created about her abhorrent comparison of black persons to apes, we're talking about the validity of the c-word.

No it;s just that the other topic would be a 100% circle jerk as everyone agrees.  You want 100 pages of ...

"Yup racist"

"Yes siree that's racist"

"Wow racist comment there"

"That there is Racist"

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

benjs said:

PJ_Soul said:

tbergs said:

fife said:

HesCalledDyer said:

cincybearcat said:

tbergs said:

Just an observation, but it seems most on here are also refraining from actually typing the word "cunt" and opting for c-word, but we've all dropped other cuss words without a second thought. Is it because it does carry more weight in our current culture or because we're afraid the mods will become upset, which goes back to my first point? 

Because like it or not, words take on meanings and become worse than other words....and the c-word is one of those bad words.  Its a dehumanizing way to degrade a woman. 

But is it, though?  LIke I mentioned before, the US seems to be the only majority English-speaking nation that has a problem with it.  I call my male friends cunts quite a bit.  Has nothing to do with dehumanzing a female and I don't think of females or female anatomy when I call them that, nor is it the intended reference.  It's just my way of saying  "you fucking idiot!"  Like the English & Aussies do.

American women are also often digusted & offended by another word.  Next thing you know we won't be able to say "moist" in public.

there are so many issues with this post.

1st off, its not just a US issue. 

2nd do you call your female friends the c-word alot also?  i find it interesting that you write male friends instead.

3rd, I know many woman who have been called c by men who were abusive toward them.  it is a dehumanzing term.

4th, i like how you just basically say to woman to suck it up about words and then compare the C word to moist

Abused women, children and men are called a lot of things which include every swear word you can think of, so that would be like saying every swear word is dehumanizing. Bitch is a female dog in heat and is the only one I can think of that derives from an animal. We shit, fuck and piss so the rest have all derived from some part of our anatomy or bodily functions. 

Exactly. Singling out the c-word makes absolutely no sense at all.
Context is everything. If you call an abused woman a stupid jerk while she's being abused, that is no better at all. But that isn't stopping people from saying stupid jerk.

Meanwhile, it's truly a testament to the power of distraction that on a thread titled Roseanne Barr, created about her abhorrent comparison of black persons to apes, we're talking about the validity of the c-word.

Lol. Well, I figure just about anything is worth talking about. This conversation has definitely not made me forget about how Roseanne did the ape/black thing... Man, it really surprises me that people still have thoughts like that in their heads. Though I think that about the n-word too. My god, I've never actually known anyone who would ever even have it occur to them to actually use that word to describe black people. I mean, obviously they're out there, even in Canada, among our own white supremacist crowd, but I've never once heard anyone use it in that context. The only context I've heard it said in in person is when we're actually discussing the use of the word, and in a few jokes that were told precisely because they were supposed to be shocking. Overall, in my life, the word just doesn't even register in most people's heads.

two white guys at my work. one I still work with, one I don't. 

first guy, about 15-20 years ago. we were in the lunchroom together. basketball highlights are on. a black player dunks the ball and swings from the hoop. he says "and people wonder why they compare them to monkeys". 

I was in such shock I was speechless. I have always regretted not punching him in the balls. 

second guy, around the same time frame. we worked with a black dude. he was talking about new years eve and how he and some friends had rented a limo and such. white coworker to black coworker: "so you're the n**** the saw in the limo on NYE!". our jaws were both on the floor. we couldn't believe it. I urged my black coworker to go to HR, which he eventually did. it got put on his file. I'm convinced it was that singular incident that prevented white shithead from getting onto the RCMP. 

benjs

cincybearcat said:

benjs said:

PJ_Soul said:

tbergs said:

fife said:

HesCalledDyer said:

cincybearcat said:

tbergs said:

Just an observation, but it seems most on here are also refraining from actually typing the word "cunt" and opting for c-word, but we've all dropped other cuss words without a second thought. Is it because it does carry more weight in our current culture or because we're afraid the mods will become upset, which goes back to my first point? 

Because like it or not, words take on meanings and become worse than other words....and the c-word is one of those bad words.  Its a dehumanizing way to degrade a woman. 

But is it, though?  LIke I mentioned before, the US seems to be the only majority English-speaking nation that has a problem with it.  I call my male friends cunts quite a bit.  Has nothing to do with dehumanzing a female and I don't think of females or female anatomy when I call them that, nor is it the intended reference.  It's just my way of saying  "you fucking idiot!"  Like the English & Aussies do.

American women are also often digusted & offended by another word.  Next thing you know we won't be able to say "moist" in public.

there are so many issues with this post.

1st off, its not just a US issue. 

2nd do you call your female friends the c-word alot also?  i find it interesting that you write male friends instead.

3rd, I know many woman who have been called c by men who were abusive toward them.  it is a dehumanzing term.

4th, i like how you just basically say to woman to suck it up about words and then compare the C word to moist

Abused women, children and men are called a lot of things which include every swear word you can think of, so that would be like saying every swear word is dehumanizing. Bitch is a female dog in heat and is the only one I can think of that derives from an animal. We shit, fuck and piss so the rest have all derived from some part of our anatomy or bodily functions. 

Exactly. Singling out the c-word makes absolutely no sense at all.
Context is everything. If you call an abused woman a stupid jerk while she's being abused, that is no better at all. But that isn't stopping people from saying stupid jerk.

Meanwhile, it's truly a testament to the power of distraction that on a thread titled Roseanne Barr, created about her abhorrent comparison of black persons to apes, we're talking about the validity of the c-word.

No it;s just that the other topic would be a 100% circle jerk as everyone agrees.  You want 100 pages of ...

"Yup racist"

"Yes siree that's racist"

"Wow racist comment there"

"That there is Racist"

Honestly, it'd give me a lot more faith in humanity than this bullshit we're seeing here. Nine pages (and counting) because of manufactured outrage that we don't consider Ivanka Trump being called a c**t as egregious as Roseanne Barr equating black people (not one individual, but literally all dark-skinned humans) with apes. The modern state of affairs is beyond astounding to me. This is why I come on here and preach doom and gloom - because we, as a race, are FUBAR. Common sense is completely uncommon, and human decency is a myth on a global scale.

fife

tbergs said:

fife said:

HesCalledDyer said:

cincybearcat said:

tbergs said:

Just an observation, but it seems most on here are also refraining from actually typing the word "cunt" and opting for c-word, but we've all dropped other cuss words without a second thought. Is it because it does carry more weight in our current culture or because we're afraid the mods will become upset, which goes back to my first point? 

Because like it or not, words take on meanings and become worse than other words....and the c-word is one of those bad words.  Its a dehumanizing way to degrade a woman. 

But is it, though?  LIke I mentioned before, the US seems to be the only majority English-speaking nation that has a problem with it.  I call my male friends cunts quite a bit.  Has nothing to do with dehumanzing a female and I don't think of females or female anatomy when I call them that, nor is it the intended reference.  It's just my way of saying  "you fucking idiot!"  Like the English & Aussies do.

American women are also often digusted & offended by another word.  Next thing you know we won't be able to say "moist" in public.

there are so many issues with this post.

1st off, its not just a US issue. 

2nd do you call your female friends the c-word alot also?  i find it interesting that you write male friends instead.

3rd, I know many woman who have been called c by men who were abusive toward them.  it is a dehumanzing term.

4th, i like how you just basically say to woman to suck it up about words and then compare the C word to moist

Abused women, children and men are called a lot of things which include every swear word you can think of, so that would be like saying every swear word is dehumanizing. Bitch is a female dog in heat and is the only one I can think of that derives from an animal. We shit, fuck and piss so the rest have all derived from some part of our anatomy or bodily functions. 

would you agree that there are words that are used toward a certain population that  if said outside of that population would not be as offensive? for example, calling a white person the N word  is not the same thing as calling a black person the N word.  why because the N word has been used to degrade black people.  the C word has also been historically used to degrade woman and only woman.  there is no word like that for children and men except for the word "faggot".  that is the big difference between those type of words and swear words like fuck, shithead etc etc.

the reason i added the 3rd point is because i believe its a different type of abuse.  it can take away a person self identity just like the N word.

tbergs

pjhawks said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

tbergs said:

fife said:

HesCalledDyer said:

cincybearcat said:

tbergs said:

Just an observation, but it seems most on here are also refraining from actually typing the word "cunt" and opting for c-word, but we've all dropped other cuss words without a second thought. Is it because it does carry more weight in our current culture or because we're afraid the mods will become upset, which goes back to my first point? 

Because like it or not, words take on meanings and become worse than other words....and the c-word is one of those bad words.  Its a dehumanizing way to degrade a woman. 

But is it, though?  LIke I mentioned before, the US seems to be the only majority English-speaking nation that has a problem with it.  I call my male friends cunts quite a bit.  Has nothing to do with dehumanzing a female and I don't think of females or female anatomy when I call them that, nor is it the intended reference.  It's just my way of saying  "you fucking idiot!"  Like the English & Aussies do.

American women are also often digusted & offended by another word.  Next thing you know we won't be able to say "moist" in public.

there are so many issues with this post.

1st off, its not just a US issue. 

2nd do you call your female friends the c-word alot also?  i find it interesting that you write male friends instead.

3rd, I know many woman who have been called c by men who were abusive toward them.  it is a dehumanzing term.

4th, i like how you just basically say to woman to suck it up about words and then compare the C word to moist

Abused women, children and men are called a lot of things which include every swear word you can think of, so that would be like saying every swear word is dehumanizing. Bitch is a female dog in heat and is the only one I can think of that derives from an animal. We shit, fuck and piss so the rest have all derived from some part of our anatomy or bodily functions. 

Exactly. Singling out the c-word makes absolutely no sense at all.
Context is everything. If you call an abused woman a stupid jerk while she's being abused, that is no better at all. But that isn't stopping people from saying stupid jerk.

Right context is everything.  If you call your buddy a c-word cause he spilled his beer on you, that's one thing.  If you use it while attacking a woman for something you disagree with it's a completely other thing.  But of course since we have the news on TV and other violent shows fuck it, let's allow everything!!!

exactly. not sure why this is so hard for some to understand.

and does Law and Order show actual rape and abuse?  not that i'm aware of but I honestly don't watch it.

Well, no, of course it doesn't show the actual act of rape, It's not an R rated movie, but simulated assault from a first person perspective is common.

And the reason this keeps coming up is because several comments have been made about how this was said on TV, where thousands of other vulgar comments, statements and acts are aired on a daily basis, but yet somehow this is supposed to be the comment where we draw the line? What the fuck? For those who are offended, yes, you can be equally offended by Bee's statement and Barr's tweet, but then you should also be equally offended by the constant garbage heap of shit that is spewed from TV and Cable on a daily basis that isn't making headlines because it can't be used to drive some false equivalency about how liberals and conservatives are treated in response to these instances.

Besides that, isn't TV the least watched/followed form of media platform we have these days. On top of that, it's cable. I can go on Netflix and pick out any one comedy special on there and it would be more offensive. Someone being called a derogatory name on TV concerns me very little about the state of our society.

I guess I just don't get it. I'm not upset about Bee calling Ivanka a name some find offensive because I don't find it dehumanizing. 

brianlux

pjhawks said:

brianlux said:

Grown American adults name calling.  Proof yet again the America had largely become an immature, dysfunctional nation of over-grown adolescents. 

exactly.  Samantha Bee was 100% out of line.  You shouldn't and cannot call a woman that on television.  yes I dislike almost everything about this administration but her point could have been made so much better without that line.  it totally obscured the point she was trying to make.  

I also think it's total bullshit people calling out Ivanka for posting a picture on Instagram with her child because of the administration's immigration policies. Really people? come on she was posting a picture of herself and her child. it wasn't a political statement. it was a mom posting a pic. nothing more nothing less.

I have to wonder what is the right tact today.  Should us opposed to Trump and his policies lower ourselves to his level to battle him? I get you want to fight a bully but maybe the tact should be less that he is an asshole and more of why he is an asshole.  I feel we are losing touch with the issues by just name calling him and his administration all the time.  As I said above Samantha Bee could have made a great point without calling Ivanka what she did.  By calling her a name she made her point so much less compelling.  We on the other side need to take a lesson from this.

Well said, pjh.  No, we should not lower ourselves to his level.  Any opposition to Trump should be well thought out, mature, and strategic.

Halifax2TheMax

tbergs said:

pjhawks said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

tbergs said:

fife said:

HesCalledDyer said:

cincybearcat said:

tbergs said:

Just an observation, but it seems most on here are also refraining from actually typing the word "cunt" and opting for c-word, but we've all dropped other cuss words without a second thought. Is it because it does carry more weight in our current culture or because we're afraid the mods will become upset, which goes back to my first point? 

Because like it or not, words take on meanings and become worse than other words....and the c-word is one of those bad words.  Its a dehumanizing way to degrade a woman. 

But is it, though?  LIke I mentioned before, the US seems to be the only majority English-speaking nation that has a problem with it.  I call my male friends cunts quite a bit.  Has nothing to do with dehumanzing a female and I don't think of females or female anatomy when I call them that, nor is it the intended reference.  It's just my way of saying  "you fucking idiot!"  Like the English & Aussies do.

American women are also often digusted & offended by another word.  Next thing you know we won't be able to say "moist" in public.

there are so many issues with this post.

1st off, its not just a US issue. 

2nd do you call your female friends the c-word alot also?  i find it interesting that you write male friends instead.

3rd, I know many woman who have been called c by men who were abusive toward them.  it is a dehumanzing term.

4th, i like how you just basically say to woman to suck it up about words and then compare the C word to moist

Abused women, children and men are called a lot of things which include every swear word you can think of, so that would be like saying every swear word is dehumanizing. Bitch is a female dog in heat and is the only one I can think of that derives from an animal. We shit, fuck and piss so the rest have all derived from some part of our anatomy or bodily functions. 

Exactly. Singling out the c-word makes absolutely no sense at all.
Context is everything. If you call an abused woman a stupid jerk while she's being abused, that is no better at all. But that isn't stopping people from saying stupid jerk.

Right context is everything.  If you call your buddy a c-word cause he spilled his beer on you, that's one thing.  If you use it while attacking a woman for something you disagree with it's a completely other thing.  But of course since we have the news on TV and other violent shows fuck it, let's allow everything!!!

exactly. not sure why this is so hard for some to understand.

and does Law and Order show actual rape and abuse?  not that i'm aware of but I honestly don't watch it.

Well, no, of course it doesn't show the actual act of rape, It's not an R rated movie, but simulated assault from a first person perspective is common.

And the reason this keeps coming up is because several comments have been made about how this was said on TV, where thousands of other vulgar comments, statements and acts are aired on a daily basis, but yet somehow this is supposed to be the comment where we draw the line? What the fuck? For those who are offended, yes, you can be equally offended by Bee's statement and Barr's tweet, but then you should also be equally offended by the constant garbage heap of shit that is spewed from TV and Cable on a daily basis that isn't making headlines because it can't be used to drive some false equivalency about how liberals and conservatives are treated in response to these instances.

Besides that, isn't TV the least watched/followed form of media platform we have these days. On top of that, it's cable. I can go on Netflix and pick out any one comedy special on there and it would be more offensive. Someone being called a derogatory name on TV concerns me very little about the state of our society.

I guess I just don't get it. I'm not upset about Bee calling Ivanka a name some find offensive because I don't find it dehumanizing. 

CNN had a great series on the history of comedy and it really touched on what makes a word funny and in what context. It was fascinating to listen to comedians talk about how it felt to bomb because they knew they said something that offended. And just as interesting was hearing how some said fuck it, I don’t care if it offends you, I’m rolling with it. Very interesting perspectives and it always seemed to come back to who the audience was.

HughFreakingDillon

Roseanne once called Hillary a cunt. Nugent called her a cunt as well and got invited to the fucking white house. 

josevolution

HughFreakingDillon said:

Roseanne once called Hillary a cunt. Nugent called her a cunt as well and got invited to the fucking white house. 

Yep and Nugent also degraded Michelle Obama and got his picture taken in the WH with our embarresment of a President ....

Halifax2TheMax

How’s Melania’s anti-bullying campaign progressing?

josevolution

Halifax2TheMax said:

How’s Melania’s anti-bullying campaign progressing?

She has not been heard or seen since then , Baffoon probably demanded she stop promoting anti government programs ...

PJ_Soul

benjs said:

cincybearcat said:

benjs said:

PJ_Soul said:

tbergs said:

fife said:

HesCalledDyer said:

cincybearcat said:

tbergs said:

Just an observation, but it seems most on here are also refraining from actually typing the word "cunt" and opting for c-word, but we've all dropped other cuss words without a second thought. Is it because it does carry more weight in our current culture or because we're afraid the mods will become upset, which goes back to my first point? 

Because like it or not, words take on meanings and become worse than other words....and the c-word is one of those bad words.  Its a dehumanizing way to degrade a woman. 

But is it, though?  LIke I mentioned before, the US seems to be the only majority English-speaking nation that has a problem with it.  I call my male friends cunts quite a bit.  Has nothing to do with dehumanzing a female and I don't think of females or female anatomy when I call them that, nor is it the intended reference.  It's just my way of saying  "you fucking idiot!"  Like the English & Aussies do.

American women are also often digusted & offended by another word.  Next thing you know we won't be able to say "moist" in public.

there are so many issues with this post.

1st off, its not just a US issue. 

2nd do you call your female friends the c-word alot also?  i find it interesting that you write male friends instead.

3rd, I know many woman who have been called c by men who were abusive toward them.  it is a dehumanzing term.

4th, i like how you just basically say to woman to suck it up about words and then compare the C word to moist

Abused women, children and men are called a lot of things which include every swear word you can think of, so that would be like saying every swear word is dehumanizing. Bitch is a female dog in heat and is the only one I can think of that derives from an animal. We shit, fuck and piss so the rest have all derived from some part of our anatomy or bodily functions. 

Exactly. Singling out the c-word makes absolutely no sense at all.
Context is everything. If you call an abused woman a stupid jerk while she's being abused, that is no better at all. But that isn't stopping people from saying stupid jerk.

Meanwhile, it's truly a testament to the power of distraction that on a thread titled Roseanne Barr, created about her abhorrent comparison of black persons to apes, we're talking about the validity of the c-word.

No it;s just that the other topic would be a 100% circle jerk as everyone agrees.  You want 100 pages of ...

"Yup racist"

"Yes siree that's racist"

"Wow racist comment there"

"That there is Racist"

Honestly, it'd give me a lot more faith in humanity than this bullshit we're seeing here. Nine pages (and counting) because of manufactured outrage that we don't consider Ivanka Trump being called a c**t as egregious as Roseanne Barr equating black people (not one individual, but literally all dark-skinned humans) with apes. The modern state of affairs is beyond astounding to me. This is why I come on here and preach doom and gloom - because we, as a race, are FUBAR. Common sense is completely uncommon, and human decency is a myth on a global scale.

I for one have no outrage, let alone the manufactured kind, haha.
(seriously though, I'm not sure why people are bothered about this thread, and see no reason to related it to a lack of common sense or human decency)

brianlux

How low is Roseanne's Barr?  Yeah, about like this...