'Creepy uncle' Morgan Freeman issues apology after eight women accuse him of sexual harassment

Meltdown99

'Creepy uncle' Morgan Freeman issues apology after eight women accuse him of sexual harassment

http://nationalpost.com/entertainment/celebrity/creepy-uncle-morgan-freeman-issues-apology-after-eight-women-accuse-him-of-sexual-harassment

Thoughts_Arrive

Will he avoid Shawshank State Penitentiary?

my2hands

Not Morgan Freeman!?!?!?

josevolution

my2hands said:

Not Morgan Freeman!?!?!?

Yep unreal , im glad this has happened that culture has to be stomped out of our society too bad perpetrator # 1 will get away with it because he’s the president that is the biggest shsm of all we all know he has assaulted women through out his life ...

Meltdown99

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Will he avoid Shawshank State Penitentiary?

LOL ... you can tour the prison that shawshamk was filmed at.  When you visit Cleveland you can tour the prison ... LOL 

Ohio State Reformatory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_State_Reformatory

brianlux

What the hell is the matter with these actor dudes these days?  Not ruling out that some of the accusations were exaggerated but all eight?  Doubtful.  Disappointing!

Meltdown99

More and more when these dudes get caught and outed, then they apologize ... I am more apt to believe they are just sorry they were caught and outed...

Brian, I agree ... all 8 are not exaggerating ...

mookeywrench

This sounds like an ongoing legal matter. Did anyone get permission from the mods to discuss this? 

brianlux

mookeywrench said:

This sounds like an ongoing legal matter. Did anyone get permission from the mods to discuss this? 

That is one of the strangest question I've seen on these boards in quite some time, mookeywrench, lol!

my2hands

brianlux said:

mookeywrench said:

This sounds like an ongoing legal matter. Did anyone get permission from the mods to discuss this? 

That is one of the strangest question I've seen on these boards in quite some time, mookeywrench, lol!

Indeed

ConorKavanagh

Do we have permission to discuss every other ongoing legal matter that gets discussed throughout the forums here, especially in A Moving Train?

Thoughts_Arrive

Meltdown99 said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Will he avoid Shawshank State Penitentiary?

LOL ... you can tour the prison that shawshamk was filmed at.  When you visit Cleveland you can tour the prison ... LOL 

Ohio State Reformatory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_State_Reformatory

Don't think I'll ever make it to Cleveland. Wouldn't want to visit a jail anyways lol

ConorKavanagh

Yeah jails can be kind of boring. I've visited some historically significant ones (Alcatraz, Kilmainham), but ultimately they're just creepy old buildings.

Thoughts_Arrive

ConorKavanagh said:

Yeah jails can be kind of boring. I've visited some historically significant ones (Alcatraz, Kilmainham), but ultimately they're just creepy old buildings.

And haunted.

eeriepadave

josevolution said:

my2hands said:

Not Morgan Freeman!?!?!?

Yep unreal , im glad this has happened that culture has to be stomped out of our society too bad perpetrator # 1 will get away with it because he’s the president that is the biggest shsm of all we all know he has assaulted women through out his life ...

hopefully not but who knows nowadays.

Thoughts_Arrive said:

ConorKavanagh said:

Yeah jails can be kind of boring. I've visited some historically significant ones (Alcatraz, Kilmainham), but ultimately they're just creepy old buildings.

And haunted.

like Eastern State Penitentiary (although that one is closed)

Meltdown99

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Meltdown99 said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Will he avoid Shawshank State Penitentiary?

LOL ... you can tour the prison that shawshamk was filmed at.  When you visit Cleveland you can tour the prison ... LOL 

Ohio State Reformatory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_State_Reformatory

Don't think I'll ever make it to Cleveland. Wouldn't want to visit a jail anyways lol

I toured Kingston Pen last summer ... it was interesting, mostly because retired guards were part of the tour ... so they were informative.  Plus Kingston Pen has housed most of Canada's most notorious criminals...

mace1229

I’ve found jail tours incredibly interesting. Toured LA central Jail.
But with my dad working there I got a lot of behind the scenes and parts they don’t show everyone. A standard tour probably is pretty boring.

Meltdown99

mace1229 said:

I’ve found jail tours incredibly interesting. Toured LA central Jail.
But with my dad working there I got a lot of behind the scenes and parts they don’t show everyone. A standard tour probably is pretty boring.

Kingston Pen was interesting.  Your dad was a correctional officer?  The most interesting part of Kingston pen for me was in the cell blocks ... they had this one wing unavailable to tour ... the retired guard said all those names you are thinking were housed in there, the like of Clifford Olsen, Paul Bernardo ... etc. ... but the most interesting statement he made, it didn't make sense to him why certain inmates need protection in Kingston pen, he went onto say every inmate in Kingston pen were the worst of society...

josevolution

Back to the pervs enough with the jails they should all have to face the consequences of their actions/crime it is a crime to sexually assault someone no ? that’s what’s do fucked up that the president of this nation has admitted to assaulting women because of his status yet he remains free ! 

ConorKavanagh

Thoughts_Arrive said:

And haunted.

I guess you could say some of them are haunted. But going by the old theory of a soul being unable to pass over, I'm sure some of those ghosts deserve it.

PJ_Soul

Meltdown99 said:

More and more when these dudes get caught and outed, then they apologize ... I am more apt to believe they are just sorry they were caught and outed...

Brian, I agree ... all 8 are not exaggerating ...

Yes, agreed, and Freeman has made it more than clear that he thinks being called out now is not fair at all, and he's completely minimized his actions, trying to blow them off as irrelevant, as jokes, etc. Too bad, so sad buddy! I do think there have been a few actors who have been unfairly targeted because of some hysteria and/or because of the inability of some to consider the fact that these are human beings living life ... But when there are 8 accusations like the ones being made against Freeman, that is not the case.

cincybearcat

my2hands said:

Not Morgan Freeman!?!?!?

My thoughts exactly. Sooooo disappointed 

PJ_Soul

It just really pisses me off that Freeman has tried to make himself the victim here (boohoo, my legacy is being tainted!! ) ... and a LOT of people are falling for that perspective, I'm sure just because he was beloved and some people just don't like "being forced to turn on" those they respect.

cincybearcat

So I watched a couple of the videos. One I don’t think freeman did anything weird. Another he was clearly hitting on the lady....and the lady played it off. While I’m not sure how much he was hitting on her was appropriate in that time and place, she never asked him to stop. 

Ill have to check out the other incidents mentioned.

PJ_Soul

cincybearcat said:

So I watched a couple of the videos. One I don’t think freeman did anything weird. Another he was clearly hitting on the lady....and the lady played it off. While I’m not sure how much he was hitting on her was appropriate in that time and place, she never asked him to stop. 

Ill have to check out the other incidents mentioned.

Does it matter if she didn't ask him to stop?
Sexual harassment in the work place discourages women from saying stop by its very nature. That's kind of the whole point.

cincybearcat

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

So I watched a couple of the videos. One I don’t think freeman did anything weird. Another he was clearly hitting on the lady....and the lady played it off. While I’m not sure how much he was hitting on her was appropriate in that time and place, she never asked him to stop. 

Ill have to check out the other incidents mentioned.

Does it matter if she didn't ask him to stop?
Sexual harassment in the work place discourages women from saying stop by its very nature. That's kind of the whole point.

Probably not in that setting, as I said. It’s inappropriate for a work setting. It is also the same thing that goes on in bars and nightclubs all the time and it’s encouraged.  But you are right, the setting matters a lot.  So no it doesn’t matter. 

But ill be teaching my daugher to be clear and direct when she is uncomfortable. I think that’s the best way, even if you shouldn’t have to deal with it, should be prepared to deal with it in a professional manner. (I’m talkkng about my own kid here, not what others should do or whether they should have to).

PJ_Soul

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

So I watched a couple of the videos. One I don’t think freeman did anything weird. Another he was clearly hitting on the lady....and the lady played it off. While I’m not sure how much he was hitting on her was appropriate in that time and place, she never asked him to stop. 

Ill have to check out the other incidents mentioned.

Does it matter if she didn't ask him to stop?
Sexual harassment in the work place discourages women from saying stop by its very nature. That's kind of the whole point.

Probably not in that setting, as I said. It’s inappropriate for a work setting. It is also the same thing that goes on in bars and nightclubs all the time and it’s encouraged.  But you are right, the setting matters a lot.  So no it doesn’t matter. 

But ill be teaching my daugher to be clear and direct when she is uncomfortable. I think that’s the best way, even if you shouldn’t have to deal with it, should be prepared to deal with it in a professional manner. (I’m talkkng about my own kid here, not what others should do or whether they should have to).

That is great advice for your daughter.... I just hope she feels able to take that advice when she feels like doing so threatens her job/career. I don't think the problem is usually that women experiencing sexual harassment in the workplace can't bring themselves to be clear and direct in general. It's that they are tuned in enough to recognize that if they choose to be clear and direct to defend themselves, they very well might be choosing between dealing with inappropriate behaviour from a colleague and not getting the promotion, or getting a bad reputation as being "difficult" or something. Women don't stay silent because they are meek. They stay silent because they're already fighting an uphill battle, and they don't want to compromise all that hard work or their future.

cincybearcat

I know it’s not the biggest problem. But I don’t have a son, so all I can do is try to prepare her to deal with peoples sons that weren’t properly raised/prepared.

I understand everything you say, and also while worrying about that and advocating in the workplace now, I choose to still prepare her in the event some creep hasn’t learned.

I also plan to be in a position to help her, so that she can be direct but appropriate and if her company doesn’t back her up, she needs to find a new place. That’s not right, but again, if it happens be prepared. It’s not worth sacrificing your dignity and safety to be apart of an organization that doesn’t respect you.

tempo_n_groove

ConorKavanagh said:

Yeah jails can be kind of boring. I've visited some historically significant ones (Alcatraz, Kilmainham), but ultimately they're just creepy old buildings.

I've built 30 or so prisons and they are all the same...

dankind

PJ_Soul said:

It just really pisses me off that Freeman has tried to make himself the victim here (boohoo, my legacy is being tainted!! ) ... and a LOT of people are falling for that perspective, I'm sure just because he was beloved and some people just don't like "being forced to turn on" those they respect.

His legacy will forever be tainted by being in Driving Miss Daisy.

Also, Christopher Nolan sure hired a bunch of creeps and assholes for his overwrought Batman trilogy. Those sets must've been toxic as hell.