Kendrick Lamar stops white fan from rapping N word on stage.

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    Hi! said:
    I agree. I dont know exactly, but i would estimate the crowd is 80%+ white. I guarentee when his white fans are alone by themselves or with other whites singing in their cars they aint skipping the n-word. They all acted so offended, but its ok to say cunt bitch and fuck every other word.
    I only sing the "f" word when singling along with "Save You".  I mean, how can you not, haha!
    I can’t help but think of, and therefore sing the “kcuf me” version they did on Letterman every time I hear that song.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,471
    These idiots that booed her and yelled "f*** you bitch" probably say the N word when rapping along to his songs in their cars. 
    Mob mentality is a dangerous thing and a line that Kendrick shouldn't have crossed.

    This was definitely set up though.  Hearing the girl call him "bro" was laughable...


  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    I hate the nword as well. As a white man raising 2 biracial daughters i find the word highly offensive and would ground them for a month for using it. I dont like it in slang form either. Its degrading and offensive. My 15 yr. Old has been called the n word and it was very upsetting. I actually talked to her about this situation an she had the same reaction as alot of people, wondering what he was expecting. She loves rap and i let her listen to whatever she wants, but she doesnt like the nword either and says it embarrassing. 

    It is interesting some people think this was set up. Why would he do that?

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  • lolobugg
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    Hi! said:
    I hate the nword as well. As a white man raising 2 biracial daughters i find the word highly offensive and would ground them for a month for using it. I dont like it in slang form either. Its degrading and offensive. My 15 yr. Old has been called the n word and it was very upsetting. I actually talked to her about this situation an she had the same reaction as alot of people, wondering what he was expecting. She loves rap and i let her listen to whatever she wants, but she doesnt like the nword either and says it embarrassing. 

    It is interesting some people think this was set up. Why would he do that?

    For the publicity no doubt.

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,471
    Hi! said:
    I hate the nword as well. As a white man raising 2 biracial daughters i find the word highly offensive and would ground them for a month for using it. I dont like it in slang form either. Its degrading and offensive. My 15 yr. Old has been called the n word and it was very upsetting. I actually talked to her about this situation an she had the same reaction as alot of people, wondering what he was expecting. She loves rap and i let her listen to whatever she wants, but she doesnt like the nword either and says it embarrassing. 

    It is interesting some people think this was set up. Why would he do that?
    Actually listen to the white girl speak.  It sounds very forced.

    Listen to Kendrick explain it.  It sounds rehearsed.
  • Hi!
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    Dude won a Pulitzer and is biggest rapper on the planet, thats the kind of publicity he wants?
    I do kinda hear what people are saying about how it seems forced or reherrsed.
    Weird.

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  • lolobugg
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    edited May 2018
    Hi! said:
    Dude won a Pulitzer and is biggest rapper on the planet, thats the kind of publicity he wants?
    I do kinda hear what people are saying about how it seems forced or reherrsed.
    Weird.


    I have heard more about this than I have about his Pulitzer.

    I still think it was fake.


    I stopped listening to hip hop/rap around 1992.  it became so commercialized.

    I did like Kendrick Lamar's new album..... however I don't think he is a good live act at all.

    needs something like this to get attention.

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,471
    lolobugg said:
    Hi! said:
    Dude won a Pulitzer and is biggest rapper on the planet, thats the kind of publicity he wants?
    I do kinda hear what people are saying about how it seems forced or reherrsed.
    Weird.


    I have heard more about this than I have about his Pulitzer.

    I still think it was fake.


    I stopped listening to hip hop/rap around 1992.  it became so commercialized.

    I did like Kendrick Lamar's new album..... however I don't think he is a good live act at all.

    needs something like this to get attention.

    I haven't heard a good live rap act yet.  Beastie boys and Jay Z came the closest...
  • lolobugg
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    lolobugg said:
    Hi! said:
    Dude won a Pulitzer and is biggest rapper on the planet, thats the kind of publicity he wants?
    I do kinda hear what people are saying about how it seems forced or reherrsed.
    Weird.


    I have heard more about this than I have about his Pulitzer.

    I still think it was fake.


    I stopped listening to hip hop/rap around 1992.  it became so commercialized.

    I did like Kendrick Lamar's new album..... however I don't think he is a good live act at all.

    needs something like this to get attention.

    I haven't heard a good live rap act yet.  Beastie boys and Jay Z came the closest...


    I always wanted to see Public Enemy live. I wish I would've seen them in 89/90.

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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    edited May 2018
    Hi! said:
    I hate the nword as well. As a white man raising 2 biracial daughters i find the word highly offensive and would ground them for a month for using it. I dont like it in slang form either. Its degrading and offensive. My 15 yr. Old has been called the n word and it was very upsetting. I actually talked to her about this situation an she had the same reaction as alot of people, wondering what he was expecting. She loves rap and i let her listen to whatever she wants, but she doesnt like the nword either and says it embarrassing. 

    It is interesting some people think this was set up. Why would he do that?
    Because he's a hip hip artist, of course, and rappers are evil.

    At least, that's the impression I get from the media's coverage and willfully ignorant posting going on here.

    He did not "call her out"; he did not "boot her off stage"; he was not "outraged."

    And he most certainly did not "set her up."

    Anyone who has ever read or watched any interviews with Kendrick Lamar or even watched the OP's video should be able to see that he tried his best to defuse a situation. Letting her go on with it would have been much worse. He stopped her and then gave her a shot at redemption.

    He's been doing this for much of his tour, basically having rap battles (usually a battle of the sexes) during "m.A.A.d. City" (sometimes other songs), and this is the first issue about which I can recall reading. A couple of white audience members at previous shows and festivals included the word, but the crowd didn't turn on them as much as the Hangout Festival crowd did. So Kendrick had no reason to correct them before things got uglier. This required some more situational awareness from Kendrick Lamar.

    Also, Delaney wasn't the only audience member to perform at Hangout. Similar to the rest of his shows, this was a rap battle (of the sexes). At the end of the OP's video, you can hear him say something like, "Let's give it up for Rohan." Rohan was invited to rap before Delaney, and he was was apparently more educated than Delaney and knew better than to use the word. Also, Rohan fucking slayed it.

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  • KC138045
    KC138045 Columbus, OH Posts: 2,716
    lolobugg said:
    Hi! said:
    Dude won a Pulitzer and is biggest rapper on the planet, thats the kind of publicity he wants?
    I do kinda hear what people are saying about how it seems forced or reherrsed.
    Weird.


    I have heard more about this than I have about his Pulitzer.

    I still think it was fake.


    I stopped listening to hip hop/rap around 1992.  it became so commercialized.

    I did like Kendrick Lamar's new album..... however I don't think he is a good live act at all.

    needs something like this to get attention.

    I haven't heard a good live rap act yet.  Beastie boys and Jay Z came the closest...
    I saw Tribe Called Quest and Beastie Boys in '98.  it was a good concert but I never had any interest to go to any other rap concerts then and especially now.
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  • pjhawks
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    dankind said:
    Hi! said:
    I hate the nword as well. As a white man raising 2 biracial daughters i find the word highly offensive and would ground them for a month for using it. I dont like it in slang form either. Its degrading and offensive. My 15 yr. Old has been called the n word and it was very upsetting. I actually talked to her about this situation an she had the same reaction as alot of people, wondering what he was expecting. She loves rap and i let her listen to whatever she wants, but she doesnt like the nword either and says it embarrassing. 

    It is interesting some people think this was set up. Why would he do that?
    Because he's a hip hip artist, of course, and rappers are evil.

    At least, that's the impression I get from the media's coverage and willfully ignorant posting going on here.

    He did not "call her out"; he did not "boot her off stage"; he was not "outraged."

    And he most certainly did not "set her up."

    Anyone who has ever read or watched any interviews with Kendrick Lamar or even watched the OP's video should be able to see that he tried his best to defuse a situation. Letting her go on with it would have been much worse. He stopped her and then gave her a shot at redemption.

    He's been doing this for much of his tour, basically having rap battles (usually a battle of the sexes) during "m.A.A.d. City" (sometimes other songs), and this is the first issue about which I can recall reading. A couple of white audience members at previous shows and festivals included the word, but the crowd didn't turn on them as much as the Hangout Festival crowd did. So Kendrick had no reason to correct them before things got uglier. This required some more situational awareness from Kendrick Lamar.

    Also, Delaney wasn't the only audience member to perform at Hangout. Similar to the rest of his shows, this was a rap battle (of the sexes). At the end of the OP's video, you can hear him say something like, "Let's give it up for Rohan." Rohan was invited to rap before Delaney, and he was was apparently more educated than Delaney and knew better than to use the word. Also, Rohan fucking slayed it.

    https://youtu.be/OMLiyYFNkAs
    what is your take on fans singing the song as he wrote it?  if he writes the song with that lyric how can he possibly not expect fans to sing it as he wrote it?  if you write lyrics like expect your fans of all races so sing it as you wrote it. it's not complicated.
  • timdwilli
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    lolobugg said:
    that shit is faker than the Foo Fighters BS
    This whole trend of bringing audience members up on stage is terrible. Such a waste of time that cuts a song or two out of the set. Even Ed did it last year in Dublin...brought some dude up who you at least thought was a long time 10c member or someone he had a connection to, but the guy had to read the lyrics to Black off of his phone while he sat there at butchered it. Enough with this already...people paid to see YOU perform, not less talented people from the crowd. Rant over!
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    edited May 2018
    timdwilli said:
    lolobugg said:
    that shit is faker than the Foo Fighters BS
    This whole trend of bringing audience members up on stage is terrible. Such a waste of time that cuts a song or two out of the set. Even Ed did it last year in Dublin...brought some dude up who you at least thought was a long time 10c member or someone he had a connection to, but the guy had to read the lyrics to Black off of his phone while he sat there at butchered it. Enough with this already...people paid to see YOU perform, not less talented people from the crowd. Rant over!
    I totally agree with the bolded part. Why are so many artists doing that now? I don't find it entertaining at all, or I don't 98% of the time, anyway. Plus, I think that it is stage in one way or another the majority of the time. I don't think that in this particular case, but who knows.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    lolobugg said:
    Hi! said:
    Dude won a Pulitzer and is biggest rapper on the planet, thats the kind of publicity he wants?
    I do kinda hear what people are saying about how it seems forced or reherrsed.
    Weird.


    I have heard more about this than I have about his Pulitzer.

    I still think it was fake.


    I stopped listening to hip hop/rap around 1992.  it became so commercialized.

    I did like Kendrick Lamar's new album..... however I don't think he is a good live act at all.

    needs something like this to get attention.

    I haven't heard a good live rap act yet.  Beastie boys and Jay Z came the closest...
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  • my2hands
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    PJ_Soul said:
    timdwilli said:
    lolobugg said:
    that shit is faker than the Foo Fighters BS
    This whole trend of bringing audience members up on stage is terrible. Such a waste of time that cuts a song or two out of the set. Even Ed did it last year in Dublin...brought some dude up who you at least thought was a long time 10c member or someone he had a connection to, but the guy had to read the lyrics to Black off of his phone while he sat there at butchered it. Enough with this already...people paid to see YOU perform, not less talented people from the crowd. Rant over!
    I totally agree with the bolded part. Why are so many artists doing that now? I don't find it entertaining at all, or I don't 98% of the time, anyway. Plus, I think that it is stage in one way or another the majority of the time. I don't think that in this particular case, but who knows.
    That kid, Noah maybe, that played Sad with PJ in 2016 was fucking awesome


  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    my2hands said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    timdwilli said:
    lolobugg said:
    that shit is faker than the Foo Fighters BS
    This whole trend of bringing audience members up on stage is terrible. Such a waste of time that cuts a song or two out of the set. Even Ed did it last year in Dublin...brought some dude up who you at least thought was a long time 10c member or someone he had a connection to, but the guy had to read the lyrics to Black off of his phone while he sat there at butchered it. Enough with this already...people paid to see YOU perform, not less talented people from the crowd. Rant over!
    I totally agree with the bolded part. Why are so many artists doing that now? I don't find it entertaining at all, or I don't 98% of the time, anyway. Plus, I think that it is stage in one way or another the majority of the time. I don't think that in this particular case, but who knows.
    That kid, Noah maybe, that played Sad with PJ in 2016 was fucking awesome


    Well I did leave 2% out there for when it is actually awesome. ;) ... Although that particular moment is a bit of a "meh" for me personally. Sure, I'm not so cold I can't appreciate what it meant for the kid, but that's about as far as my appreciation goes for something like that.
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    my2hands said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    timdwilli said:
    lolobugg said:
    that shit is faker than the Foo Fighters BS
    This whole trend of bringing audience members up on stage is terrible. Such a waste of time that cuts a song or two out of the set. Even Ed did it last year in Dublin...brought some dude up who you at least thought was a long time 10c member or someone he had a connection to, but the guy had to read the lyrics to Black off of his phone while he sat there at butchered it. Enough with this already...people paid to see YOU perform, not less talented people from the crowd. Rant over!
    I totally agree with the bolded part. Why are so many artists doing that now? I don't find it entertaining at all, or I don't 98% of the time, anyway. Plus, I think that it is stage in one way or another the majority of the time. I don't think that in this particular case, but who knows.
    That kid, Noah maybe, that played Sad with PJ in 2016 was fucking awesome


    I didn't get to see that live, but I met his mom randomly in a grocery store parking lot up in Maine. The kids and I were rocking out in the car to some PJ while mom was inside getting some supplies, and she heard the music and stopped by to say hi.

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    If the left didn't have double standards they'd have no standards at all.
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