Kendrick Lamar stops white fan from rapping N word on stage.

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edited May 2018 in A Moving Train
www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/kendrick-lamar-interrupts-white-fan-raps-n-word-article-1.4001807%3foutputType=amp

https://youtu.be/rIbkUbdpBMs


Not really sure what to think about this. Obviously I would never use this word, but not sure what he was expecting. I really dont have much to add beyond the fact that it just seems ridiculous to me all around. 

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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,929
    Hi! said:
    www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/kendrick-lamar-interrupts-white-fan-raps-n-word-article-1.4001807%3foutputType=amp

    https://youtu.be/rIbkUbdpBMs


    Not really sure what to think about this. Obviously I would never use this word, but not sure what he was expecting. I really dont have much to add beyond the fact that it just seems ridiculous to me all around. 
    i find it utterly ridiculous to use that word in your so-called art then complain when a fan uses the word in the context of your song.  We've seen this before with mostly white folks being called out for singing and/or tweeting lines from these songs. if you don't think your fans should be using the word then don't put it in a song. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    White people should not use the "N" word... pretty much ever except maybe George Carlin who might have found a way around it and gotten away with it... maybe.  That said, I'm not black so I have no right to say, but if I were black, I'm pretty sure I would not use that word.  I sort of get that black people want to take it back and make it theirs but to my way of thinking, that's old and tired now.  But what do I, a white guy, know about it?  Not much.
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  • Hi!
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    I agree. I dont know exactly, but i would estimate the crowd is 80%+ white. I guarentee when his white fans are alone by themselves or with other whites singing in their cars they aint skipping the n-word. They all acted so offended, but its ok to say cunt bitch and fuck every other word.

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Hi! said:
    I agree. I dont know exactly, but i would estimate the crowd is 80%+ white. I guarentee when his white fans are alone by themselves or with other whites singing in their cars they aint skipping the n-word. They all acted so offended, but its ok to say cunt bitch and fuck every other word.
    I only sing the "f" word when singling along with "Save You".  I mean, how can you not, haha!
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  • Hi!
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    or my favorite, harmless little fuck!!!!, look at me getting all Tipper Gore tonight, lol.

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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    She was saying the N word ending in _____ger instead of ____ga.
    In all seriousness...
    Wtf did Kendrick expect?
    This is stupid. And people in the crowd yelling "f*** you bitch" is stupid.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    It's rap music ...

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  • KC138045
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    This is literally one of the most pointless things I’ve read today...It’s like people are foaming at the mouth for a reason to pull out the pitchfork.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Bitch move by Kendrick calling a white person up to sing along. I don't know that dude or his music, definitely not my thing, but I agree with Thoughts. Not sure what he expected. And fuck those white people in the crowd yelling "fuck you" to her. You know they were all singing along as well until Kendrick said something. It was a total setup. Does he punk white people at all of his shows? I wonder who buys his albums?
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,967
    i'd like to see the N word disappear entirely. It's just an awful word...nothing good about it.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    edited May 2018
    What a dick move on Lamar's part. Wtf?
    I agree that nobody should be using the word at all - I can't actually believe that black people still use it regularly. I don't understand why they do it. It seems so counterproductive or whatever. This creepy little stunt by Kendrick Lamar just highlights that.
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  • dankind
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    I don't think it was a stunt, and I don't think he was trying to punk anybody. He actually went out of his way to try to help her recover from the gaffe. He's stated himself in interviews that he would like to stop using the word himself, but he's been saying it his whole life and leaving it out of his lyrics is hard because it feels forced -- like he's not speaking his own truth (paraphrasing). 

    If anything, I think maybe seeing how using the word in his lyrics makes white girls feel like it's OK for them to say it might be an eye opener for him. Maybe he'll revisit his own truth.

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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Thanks, Dan. As I said, I don't know him or his "music" or his history. I just found it odd that he would invite a white woman up on stage to sing along with a song of his that drops multiple N-words within a 10 second span. If it wasn't intentional, then it was ill-advised and a bit dense.  I agree with Kat that the word just needs to disappear. It has almost always been a divisive word used to foment discord. Hopefully you're right and it is an eye-opener for him.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,681
    It's absurd the word is totally vile and the Rappers are the one's to have to look in mirror , i don't listen to rap at all so what do i know ...
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    edited May 2018
    I didn't mean "stunt" as in pre-planning it with a motive. I just meant it as "that stupid fucking thing he did to a fan on stage".

    BTW, this is one of those stories where the reaction relies on the players. Say Kanye West had done this instead of Kendrick Lamar... Ooooohhhhh, it would have been a shit storm.
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  • cincybearcat
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    Just goes to show you that there is a large group of musicians out there (mostly rappers) that want the $ from everyone but really don't want the fans that come with it.

    Using the N-word is awful for anyone.  But to invite a white kid on stage to sing a song that you know has the N-word in it....it's a setup for you to make a point and become a bully.  Just stupid.  Do as I say not as I do....bullshit.
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    Just goes to show you that there is a large group of musicians out there (mostly rappers) that want the $ from everyone but really don't want the fans that come with it.

    Using the N-word is awful for anyone.  But to invite a white kid on stage to sing a song that you know has the N-word in it....it's a setup for you to make a point and become a bully.  Just stupid.  Do as I say not as I do....bullshit.
    Or maybe he was honestly expecting her to know better than to say that word. Again, I think it was likely a teaching moment for her and, more importantly, for him. When you get so much attention for your dedication to your craft and ultimately wind up winning a much deserved Pulitzer for a work of art that has that word in it, it's a double-edged sword because it has a way of normalizing it.

    Next thing you know, you've got a bunch of little white kids running around with a mouth like Huck Finn's.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    Maybe he should just ban white people from his concerts, to guarantee that none of us are singing those parts of his songs.
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  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    that shit is faker than the Foo Fighters BS

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