Diversity

tbergs

unsung said:

Bentleyspop said:

Eventually, many generations  from now, everyone will be tan.

Not everyone.  

Oh brother...thought better of it...

unsung

Another disgusting comment.  Not surprising.

tbergs

unsung said:

Another disgusting comment.  Not surprising.

Sorry, shouldn't have stopped so low to your passive reference to prevent the elimination of the white race.

dignin

unsung said:

Bentleyspop said:

Eventually, many generations  from now, everyone will be tan.

Not everyone.  

Care to expand on that?

rgambs

unsung said:

Another disgusting comment.  Not surprising.

You'll do you best to prevent that eh? lol

HughFreakingDillon

diversity doesn't mean swallowing up cultures. it means learning about, celebrating, and respecting other cultures. Now, I understand this may lead to some compromise, but those compromises, for the most part I think, are public (like no more christmas trees in shops, maybe changing a lyric or two to an anthem, changing sport teams' racist/caricature-ish mascots/logos, etc). That stuff doesn't bother me. if anything, I prefer it. 

previously, and still in many cases, cultures are still marginalized. I hated being in school and seeing a classmate outside in the hall alone during the lord's prayer. there's a reason that shit doesn't belong in public schools. do it at home or in your place of worship and everyone is happy. 

Go Beavers

unsung said:

Bentleyspop said:

Eventually, many generations  from now, everyone will be tan.

Not everyone.  

They’ll be some isolated, walled off enclaves in Idaho that will still be white for a bit longer than the rest of the country. 

brianlux

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Bentleyspop said:

Eventually, many generations  from now, everyone will be tan.

Not everyone.  

They’ll be some isolated, walled off enclaves in Idaho that will still be white for a bit longer than the rest of the country. 

We drove up through Idaho taking blue highways and thin-lined roads on the map on the way to Missoula in 2012 to see PJ and, man, some of those little towns were very strange places indeed.  Never stopped in any one of them for very long though, just pushed on through to see some of the more beautiful unpopulated scenery along the way.

Thoughts_Arrive

unsung said:

Forced diversity destroys countries.

Natural movement of people is a safer and more logical path.

Whaaaat the faaaaaark?

Bentleyspop

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Bentleyspop said:

Eventually, many generations  from now, everyone will be tan.

Not everyone.  

They’ll be some isolated, walled off enclaves in Idaho that will still be white for a bit longer than the rest of the country. 

There already is

mattsl1983

HughFreakingDillon said:

diversity doesn't mean swallowing up cultures. it means learning about, celebrating, and respecting other cultures. Now, I understand this may lead to some compromise, but those compromises, for the most part I think, are public (like no more christmas trees in shops, maybe changing a lyric or two to an anthem, changing sport teams' racist/caricature-ish mascots/logos, etc). That stuff doesn't bother me. if anything, I prefer it. 

previously, and still in many cases, cultures are still marginalized. I hated being in school and seeing a classmate outside in the hall alone during the lord's prayer. there's a reason that shit doesn't belong in public schools. do it at home or in your place of worship and everyone is happy. 

It seems that your issue isn’t necessarily with culture, but with a religion.  Are you ready to draw that religious line when it comes to other religions aside from Christianity?  

rgambs

mattsl1983 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

diversity doesn't mean swallowing up cultures. it means learning about, celebrating, and respecting other cultures. Now, I understand this may lead to some compromise, but those compromises, for the most part I think, are public (like no more christmas trees in shops, maybe changing a lyric or two to an anthem, changing sport teams' racist/caricature-ish mascots/logos, etc). That stuff doesn't bother me. if anything, I prefer it. 

previously, and still in many cases, cultures are still marginalized. I hated being in school and seeing a classmate outside in the hall alone during the lord's prayer. there's a reason that shit doesn't belong in public schools. do it at home or in your place of worship and everyone is happy. 

It seems that your issue isn’t necessarily with culture, but with a religion.  Are you ready to draw that religious line when it comes to other religions aside from Christianity?  

Of course he is, that's a silly question.

Miss.Snowdrop

The two most important things in cultural diverse settings are: an open mind and respect

I have learned that in over 8 years of working AND LIVING in backpacker hostels. We have had staff members from every single continent and many many countries. And it works! 

We all live together, we work together, we get shit faced together! We celebrate most of the British holidays, since that is where we are based but have adapted a few from other countries as well and are always happy to learn about other culture's traditions. 
There are pot luck parties where people prepare their favourite food from home. We talk about the things we miss and the things we hate in our home countries. Sometimes we teach each other bits and bobs in our mother tongue - mostly swear words though

With all these influences it does not mean, that I have thrown my own cultural heritage over board - I have just gained a better understanding of some other's around the world and my own. I have learned facts about countries, I probably wouldn't have otherwise. I have learned to see my own culture with a different perspective - through a different pair of glasses, if you will. I have learned to value things about my own country I took for granted and learned that other things could use some improvement. 

All this is just my own experience. But I can only recommend everyone to move to another country - even if it's just for a few months. You will learn things about yourself and the world that no one can teach you!

oftenreading

Miss.Snowdrop said:

The two most important things in cultural diverse settings are: an open mind and respect

I have learned that in over 8 years of working AND LIVING in backpacker hostels. We have had staff members from every single continent and many many countries. And it works! 

We all live together, we work together, we get shit faced together! We celebrate most of the British holidays, since that is where we are based but have adapted a few from other countries as well and are always happy to learn about other culture's traditions. 
There are pot luck parties where people prepare their favourite food from home. We talk about the things we miss and the things we hate in our home countries. Sometimes we teach each other bits and bobs in our mother tongue - mostly swear words though

With all these influences it does not mean, that I have thrown my own cultural heritage over board - I have just gained a better understanding of some other's around the world and my own. I have learned facts about countries, I probably wouldn't have otherwise. I have learned to see my own culture with a different perspective - through a different pair of glasses, if you will. I have learned to value things about my own country I took for granted and learned that other things could use some improvement. 

All this is just my own experience. But I can only recommend everyone to move to another country - even if it's just for a few months. You will learn things about yourself and the world that no one can teach you!

I agree with all that you’ve said here. 

HughFreakingDillon

mattsl1983 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

diversity doesn't mean swallowing up cultures. it means learning about, celebrating, and respecting other cultures. Now, I understand this may lead to some compromise, but those compromises, for the most part I think, are public (like no more christmas trees in shops, maybe changing a lyric or two to an anthem, changing sport teams' racist/caricature-ish mascots/logos, etc). That stuff doesn't bother me. if anything, I prefer it. 

previously, and still in many cases, cultures are still marginalized. I hated being in school and seeing a classmate outside in the hall alone during the lord's prayer. there's a reason that shit doesn't belong in public schools. do it at home or in your place of worship and everyone is happy. 

It seems that your issue isn’t necessarily with culture, but with a religion.  Are you ready to draw that religious line when it comes to other religions aside from Christianity?  

my issue is public versus private. 

and yes, I am. I would say the same if they started reading from the Koran in a public school. it has no place. 

mattsl1983

HughFreakingDillon said:

mattsl1983 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

diversity doesn't mean swallowing up cultures. it means learning about, celebrating, and respecting other cultures. Now, I understand this may lead to some compromise, but those compromises, for the most part I think, are public (like no more christmas trees in shops, maybe changing a lyric or two to an anthem, changing sport teams' racist/caricature-ish mascots/logos, etc). That stuff doesn't bother me. if anything, I prefer it. 

previously, and still in many cases, cultures are still marginalized. I hated being in school and seeing a classmate outside in the hall alone during the lord's prayer. there's a reason that shit doesn't belong in public schools. do it at home or in your place of worship and everyone is happy. 

It seems that your issue isn’t necessarily with culture, but with a religion.  Are you ready to draw that religious line when it comes to other religions aside from Christianity?  

my issue is public versus private. 

and yes, I am. I would say the same if they started reading from the Koran in a public school. it has no place. 

Were do you draw the line at then?  Are you for no burkas in public, no crosses in public?  No religious  paraphernalia?  Because a display of a religion is in itself a dividing.  

rgambs

mattsl1983 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mattsl1983 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

diversity doesn't mean swallowing up cultures. it means learning about, celebrating, and respecting other cultures. Now, I understand this may lead to some compromise, but those compromises, for the most part I think, are public (like no more christmas trees in shops, maybe changing a lyric or two to an anthem, changing sport teams' racist/caricature-ish mascots/logos, etc). That stuff doesn't bother me. if anything, I prefer it. 

previously, and still in many cases, cultures are still marginalized. I hated being in school and seeing a classmate outside in the hall alone during the lord's prayer. there's a reason that shit doesn't belong in public schools. do it at home or in your place of worship and everyone is happy. 

It seems that your issue isn’t necessarily with culture, but with a religion.  Are you ready to draw that religious line when it comes to other religions aside from Christianity?  

my issue is public versus private. 

and yes, I am. I would say the same if they started reading from the Koran in a public school. it has no place. 

Were do you draw the line at then?  Are you for no burkas in public, no crosses in public?  No religious  paraphernalia?  Because a display of a religion is in itself a dividing.  

I am sure Hugh draws the line where every one else does, private individuals can do as they please but public (ie government funded/sponsored/representative) should be entirely secular.

josevolution

Immigration brings about diversity , I remember arriving here in America my dad didn’t move us into an all Hispanic neighborhood instead we lived in a total diverse part of town my 1st American friends were Polish , Italian , scottish , Irish & Caribbean Spanish ..
i didnt speak English but the 1st knock on my door to come out to play was not really spoken that kid had a ball in his hands and he motioned for me to come out to play with him , it was a universal gesture no words just point to me & ball and a wave of hand to come out ..Damn I can remember it like it was yesterday that boy ended up dying from AIDS in 1989 he was my 1st friend in this country...He was Scottish 

HughFreakingDillon

rgambs said:

mattsl1983 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mattsl1983 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

diversity doesn't mean swallowing up cultures. it means learning about, celebrating, and respecting other cultures. Now, I understand this may lead to some compromise, but those compromises, for the most part I think, are public (like no more christmas trees in shops, maybe changing a lyric or two to an anthem, changing sport teams' racist/caricature-ish mascots/logos, etc). That stuff doesn't bother me. if anything, I prefer it. 

previously, and still in many cases, cultures are still marginalized. I hated being in school and seeing a classmate outside in the hall alone during the lord's prayer. there's a reason that shit doesn't belong in public schools. do it at home or in your place of worship and everyone is happy. 

It seems that your issue isn’t necessarily with culture, but with a religion.  Are you ready to draw that religious line when it comes to other religions aside from Christianity?  

my issue is public versus private. 

and yes, I am. I would say the same if they started reading from the Koran in a public school. it has no place. 

Were do you draw the line at then?  Are you for no burkas in public, no crosses in public?  No religious  paraphernalia?  Because a display of a religion is in itself a dividing.  

I am sure Hugh draws the line where every one else does, private individuals can do as they please but public (ie government funded/sponsored/representative) should be entirely secular.

this. 

HughFreakingDillon

mattsl1983 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mattsl1983 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

diversity doesn't mean swallowing up cultures. it means learning about, celebrating, and respecting other cultures. Now, I understand this may lead to some compromise, but those compromises, for the most part I think, are public (like no more christmas trees in shops, maybe changing a lyric or two to an anthem, changing sport teams' racist/caricature-ish mascots/logos, etc). That stuff doesn't bother me. if anything, I prefer it. 

previously, and still in many cases, cultures are still marginalized. I hated being in school and seeing a classmate outside in the hall alone during the lord's prayer. there's a reason that shit doesn't belong in public schools. do it at home or in your place of worship and everyone is happy. 

It seems that your issue isn’t necessarily with culture, but with a religion.  Are you ready to draw that religious line when it comes to other religions aside from Christianity?  

my issue is public versus private. 

and yes, I am. I would say the same if they started reading from the Koran in a public school. it has no place. 

Were do you draw the line at then?  Are you for no burkas in public, no crosses in public?  No religious  paraphernalia?  Because a display of a religion is in itself a dividing.  

it really isn't. I have no issue with anyone wearing a cross or a t shirt with jesus on it or a bumper sticker that says "honk if you're not a heathen!". it's when it crosses the line to forced participation at a public event/gathering or government funded activity. like a school. now, if it's a private school that is religious, have at er. you signed up for it, so if you want that, go for it. but public school? nope. wear your burkas or your crosses, but no lords prayer in the morning. my grade 6 teacher read a fucking bible verse every morning to us. this was 19-80-fucking-6. not cool. no one listened, and back then either people were christian or they just didn't care, save for the rare student that I mentioned previously. but now? half the class would be in the hall.