Western media lies about Syria exposed (Canadian journalist Eva Bartlett)

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,995
    edited April 2018
    polaris_x said:
    Assad has been in power since 2000 please tell us how that is a fair way to run a country he’s had plenty of time to bring peace to his people , he’s not a good guy ...
    How many of your congress people and senate people have been in power much longer...
    You can’t compare the two. False equivalency. Unbelievable how far down the worm hole you people have fallen.
    more of the same BS ... worm hole ... sad ...
    Comparing members of Congress, one set elected every two years and the other every six, since the founding of the republic, with an unelected dictator who rules by brutal oppression and fear and calling them the same, or trying to, is not “same BS,” it’s falling really far down the worm hole. Even further if you defend the analogy.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    JimmyV said:
    polaris_x said:
    this look like a guy who's hated by his people and gasses his own people? ... you think that if your leader was known to oppress and launch chemical weapons against civilians - he'd drive his own car around?

    if you had a kid who was killed by a sarin attack - and you knew it was ordered by Assad - wouldn't you try and kill him!?? ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ3uXcIFx_U

    But doesn't the opposite hold true as well? If the West was actively plotting to remove Assad's regime from power would he drive his own car around? If there were Islamist rebels trying to takeover the country would he drive his own car around? I don't think he would. So I do question what I'm seeing in this video.
    Unless he’s driving around Alewite areas in firm control by Assad’s government forces. YouTube proves it.
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  • polaris_x
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    polaris_x said:
    Assad has been in power since 2000 please tell us how that is a fair way to run a country he’s had plenty of time to bring peace to his people , he’s not a good guy ...
    How many of your congress people and senate people have been in power much longer...
    You can’t compare the two. False equivalency. Unbelievable how far down the worm hole you people have fallen.
    more of the same BS ... worm hole ... sad ...
    Comparing members of Congress, one set elected every two years and the other every six, since the founding of the republic, with an unelected dictator who rules by brutal oppression fair and calling them the same, or trying to, is not “same BS,” it’s falling really far down the worm hole. Even further if you defend the analogy.
    except your wrong ... Assad was elected whether you like or not ... it's a fact ... you're the one going down the worm hole when you say he was not elected ... and when you talk about brutal oppression ... it's just not true ...
  • mcgruff10
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    JimmyV said:
    polaris_x said:
    this look like a guy who's hated by his people and gasses his own people? ... you think that if your leader was known to oppress and launch chemical weapons against civilians - he'd drive his own car around?

    if you had a kid who was killed by a sarin attack - and you knew it was ordered by Assad - wouldn't you try and kill him!?? ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ3uXcIFx_U

    But doesn't the opposite hold true as well? If the West was actively plotting to remove Assad's regime from power would he drive his own car around? If there were Islamist rebels trying to takeover the country would he drive his own car around? I don't think he would. So I do question what I'm seeing in this video.
    Unless he’s driving around Alewite areas in firm control by Assad’s government forces. YouTube proves it.
    There is zero chance he was driving around by himself.  I'm guessing many of the cars around him had his security team.  Total photo op.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • polaris_x
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    Can you reasonably explain why the OPCW inspectors are still being blocked by Assad and Putin? Anyone want to defend the actions of the nice guy ophthalmologist?
    yes ... the decision to go in is based on the UNDSS ... they technically provide "security" ... western nations appointed ... it's being headed by an Australian right now ... this is clearly an attempt to derail the investigation ...

    explain to me how Robert Fisk, Pearson Sharp and a plethora of journalists were in Douma but the OPCW can't get in!???

    let's face it ... unlike Kheik Shaykoun ... there was actually no chemical attack to go along with the accusation ... that's why the narrative has changed to ... "Assad is still a dick even if he didn't gas his people" ...

    it's pretty obvious now that there was no chemical attack in douma ... no deaths ...
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    polaris_x said:
    polaris_x said:
    Assad has been in power since 2000 please tell us how that is a fair way to run a country he’s had plenty of time to bring peace to his people , he’s not a good guy ...
    How many of your congress people and senate people have been in power much longer...
    You can’t compare the two. False equivalency. Unbelievable how far down the worm hole you people have fallen.
    more of the same BS ... worm hole ... sad ...
    Comparing members of Congress, one set elected every two years and the other every six, since the founding of the republic, with an unelected dictator who rules by brutal oppression fair and calling them the same, or trying to, is not “same BS,” it’s falling really far down the worm hole. Even further if you defend the analogy.
    except your wrong ... Assad was elected whether you like or not ... it's a fact ... you're the one going down the worm hole when you say he was not elected ... and when you talk about brutal oppression ... it's just not true ...
    How many elections were held, name the opposition candidate(s) and their vote totals.
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  • polaris_x
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    dignin said:
    polaris_x said:
    dignin said:
    polaris_x said:
    dignin said:
    You might get an idea of how fair the elections are by the numbers.

    2000- Assad 99.7% of vote  
    2007- Assad 97.62% of vote
    2014- Assad 88.7% of vote

    Those are some North Korean type numbers.



    only in 2014 was their multi-party elections ...
    So you think 89% of the vote is realistic?

    absolutely ... I would say that IF Syria were not engaged in a way against terrorists at the time - that number may be less ... similar to how Bush's and Guiliani's numbers spiked during 9/11 ... but when you see the war as western intervention - people are gonna rally behind their leader ... 
    I could run a turnip in pretty much any legitimate election and it would probably get at least 11%.

    Fuck, even that orange turd in the states almost got 50%.

    Sorry polaris, you are in way too deep if you can believe those results are in any way legitimate. 
    because what!? ... because the NY times or huffingtonpost told you they weren't legit? ... please ... let's face this reality - many of you guys have not done a lot of independent research on syria ... you're currently relying on google searches such as "assad is evil" ... give me something to post ...

    i've read both sides for a long time now ...
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    polaris_x said:
    dignin said:
    polaris_x said:
    dignin said:
    polaris_x said:
    dignin said:
    You might get an idea of how fair the elections are by the numbers.

    2000- Assad 99.7% of vote  
    2007- Assad 97.62% of vote
    2014- Assad 88.7% of vote

    Those are some North Korean type numbers.



    only in 2014 was their multi-party elections ...
    So you think 89% of the vote is realistic?

    absolutely ... I would say that IF Syria were not engaged in a way against terrorists at the time - that number may be less ... similar to how Bush's and Guiliani's numbers spiked during 9/11 ... but when you see the war as western intervention - people are gonna rally behind their leader ... 
    I could run a turnip in pretty much any legitimate election and it would probably get at least 11%.

    Fuck, even that orange turd in the states almost got 50%.

    Sorry polaris, you are in way too deep if you can believe those results are in any way legitimate. 
    because what!? ... because the NY times or huffingtonpost told you they weren't legit? ... please ... let's face this reality - many of you guys have not done a lot of independent research on syria ... you're currently relying on google searches such as "assad is evil" ... give me something to post ...

    i've read both sides for a long time now ...
    I read about Hama when it happened. I don’t need to google “Assad is evil” to know he’s not the nice guy wishing he was still an ophthalmologist to know where the sunrises.
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  • polaris_x
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    polaris_x said:
    my2hands said:
    JimmyV said:
    The difference between 2002 and 2018 is that no one then was claiming Saddam Hussein was a beloved figure in Iraq who drove his own car around Baghdad. We all knew what he was, even if we disagreed about what should or shouldn't be done militarily. I was against invading Iraq then and I'm against attacking Syria now. Not wanting to bomb Syria isn't what makes someone an apologist for Assad.
    That pretty much sums it up for me... 

    Nobody had seen me advocate for missile strikes... not really sure what should be done... but I tend to be strongly against military action

    My issue is the painting of Assad as some kind of righteous leader who had done nothing wrong over the past 7 years... same with Putin, The Peacemaker ... totally ridiculous
    The question then is:  What if the narrative you've believed all along on Assad was false?  Why would a secular leader of a country where people who hate each other elsewhere live in harmony want to live in a place where a brutal dictator operates?  The villification of Assad simply does not add up - how does a guy go from wanting to be an eye doctor studying in London to going home and wanting to oppress all his people!??

    You just have to honeslty ask yourselves that question ... because there is plenty of evidence to disprove that narrative ... but it appears you guys just don't want to hear it ... not sure why ... 

    dignin said:
    polaris_x said:
    dignin said:
    You might get an idea of how fair the elections are by the numbers.

    2000- Assad 99.7% of vote  
    2007- Assad 97.62% of vote
    2014- Assad 88.7% of vote

    Those are some North Korean type numbers.



    only in 2014 was their multi-party elections ...
    So you think 89% of the vote is realistic?

    You clearly don’t understand the internal politics of Syria and the region. Have you educated yourself on “Hamas Rules?” In a nutshell, there’s this silly little thing called “fear,” particularly if you’re not of the same family, sect, clan, religion or any other qualifying trait or characteristic.
    haha ... talk about worm holes ...

    lemme ask you this ... if this guy was the asshole you said ... why the heck bother with a constitution change!?? ... why bother with hosting the elections at all!?? ... Canadian and US representatives were there to witness the elections ...
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    polaris_x said:
    Can you reasonably explain why the OPCW inspectors are still being blocked by Assad and Putin? Anyone want to defend the actions of the nice guy ophthalmologist?
    yes ... the decision to go in is based on the UNDSS ... they technically provide "security" ... western nations appointed ... it's being headed by an Australian right now ... this is clearly an attempt to derail the investigation ...

    explain to me how Robert Fisk, Pearson Sharp and a plethora of journalists were in Douma but the OPCW can't get in!???

    let's face it ... unlike Kheik Shaykoun ... there was actually no chemical attack to go along with the accusation ... that's why the narrative has changed to ... "Assad is still a dick even if he didn't gas his people" ...

    it's pretty obvious now that there was no chemical attack in douma ... no deaths ...
    “Clearly” an attempt? Based on what? Another blog post? A YouTube video? Your made up narrative?
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  • my2hands
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    polaris_x said:
    JimmyV said:
    "The ballots themselves, however, are just unnumbered slips of paper, and no one expects this show to have a surprise ending."

    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/04/13/474077689/parts-of-syria-vote-in-parliamentary-elections-that-critics-say-are-a-sham

    more of a sham than diebold or hanging chads?

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/international-observers-syrias-voting-process-was-fair-and-democratic/5385388

    The above link from global research Which is a pro-russia website from the Centre for Research on Globalization, which publishes conspiracy theories. Their founder Michael Chossudovsky has written that the 9/11 attacks were not committed by Islamic terrorists, and that the attacks were a pretext for war in the Middle East.
    I guess we are just going to ignore this one lol
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Honestly...

    I get the feeling someone else is on the payroll... sweet jesus lol
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Here's that flourishing democracy you were talking about.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/04/bashar-al-assad-winds-reelection-in-landslide-victory

    Assad captures another seven-year term after winning almost 90% of the vote, with polling only held in government-held areas.

    Assad's victory was always a foregone conclusion, despite the presence of other candidates on the ballot for the first time in decades. Voting was held only in government-controlled areas, excluding huge tracks of northern and eastern Syria that are in rebel hands. The opposition and its western allies, including the United States, have denounced the election as a farce.

    The win boosts Assad's support base, and provides further evidence that he has no intention of relinquishing power.

    For the first time in decades, there were multiple candidates on the ballot. In previous presidential elections, Assad and before him his father, Hafez Assad, were elected in single candidate referendums in which voters cast yes-no ballots.

    The government has sought to present this vote as a democratic solution to Syria's three-year conflict, although a win for Assad is certain to prolong the war. Much of northern and eastern Syria is in rebel hands, and those in the armed opposition show no signs of relenting in their fight to oust Assad.

    The war, which activists say has killed more than 160,000 people, has left the international community deeply divided, with the US and its allies backing the revolt against Assad, who enjoys the support of Russia and Iran.

    That division persisted in perceptions of Tuesday's vote.

    In Beirut, US secretary of state John Kerry sharply criticized the Syrian election, calling it "a great big zero." He said it can't be considered fair "because you can't have an election where millions of your people don't even have an ability to vote."

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  • tbergs
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    There are some reports from the Russian foreign ministry that the inspectors have entered Douma and are at the site of the attack this morning. Not sure if that is accurate based on the sources. Either way, there'll be little to no evidence left if chlorine gas was used.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,394
    my2hands said:
    polaris_x said:
    JimmyV said:
    "The ballots themselves, however, are just unnumbered slips of paper, and no one expects this show to have a surprise ending."

    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/04/13/474077689/parts-of-syria-vote-in-parliamentary-elections-that-critics-say-are-a-sham

    more of a sham than diebold or hanging chads?

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/international-observers-syrias-voting-process-was-fair-and-democratic/5385388

    The above link from global research Which is a pro-russia website from the Centre for Research on Globalization, which publishes conspiracy theories. Their founder Michael Chossudovsky has written that the 9/11 attacks were not committed by Islamic terrorists, and that the attacks were a pretext for war in the Middle East.
    I guess we are just going to ignore this one lol
    The truth, especially believable provable and reliable truth, is always ignored by conspiracy theorists.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    From a Republican member of the senate foreign relations committee in yesterday’s NYT. But it surely can be explained away as western war mongering profiteering, I’m sure.


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    Kev - Coat and Keys Earth Posts: 357
    You think a conversation hits maximum crazy and then on the next page George Galloway appears... great stuff.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    polaris_x said:
    This guy... has his own show on RT!!! Russian State Sponsored media... Putin's personal propaganda machine... he's literally on the payrol... alternative journalism, eh? LOL

    https://www.rt.com/shows/sputnik/
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,995
    my2hands said:
    polaris_x said:
    This guy... has his own show on RT!!! Russian State Sponsored media... Putin's personal propaganda machine... he's literally on the payrol... alternative journalism, eh? LOL

    https://www.rt.com/shows/sputnik/
    “Alternative journalism?” Is that like Kelly Ann’s alternative facts? Are they dating?
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