Western media lies about Syria exposed (Canadian journalist Eva Bartlett)

Bentleyspop

assad is a dictator who kills his own people 
When you support assad in any way, shape, or form you support evil
When you support evil in any way, shape, or form you are evil as well.

Namaste'

josevolution

polaris_x said:

Dude ... all the information regarding these gas attacks have come from Jihadist groups ... i.e. the White Helmets - who are the biggest frauds out there.  Do some independent research on them and you will see they have been expertly trained by PR companies in staging fake videos. 

I mentioned this in the other Syria thread ... why on earth would Assad gas his own people!!? ... look at the result! ... more foreign intervention! ... is it a coincidence that EVERY time Trump says he is gonna pull out of Syria - there is a gas attack!?? ... this makes no sense whatsoever ... each time they claim a gas attack - it's been debunked ... there is an international body that is meant to investigate these claims OPCW ... hopefully, they will be allowed to do their jobs and they can provide truth ...

The media are portraying Assad as some brutal dictator but if you do just a bit of digging into who he really is ... you will see that it doesn't match ... this guy drives his own car around the country and walks amongst his people freely ... brutal dictators do not do that ... they hole themselves up in their private resorts and play golf ...

The first thing people have to realize in this conflict is that there are NO moderate rebels.  Syria is at war with Al Qaeda, ISIS and other Extremist Islamic Factions.  The same groups that have run rampant in IRaq, Libya and Afghanistan thanks to US support.  These so called rebels are all foreign!

lol ASSAD the humanatarian lol yeah he's agreat guy i bet he also goes around feeding the hungry ....

Meltdown99

Americans are blinded by there ego's...

josevolution

Heck i say let them all fight their own battles starting with Israel , i don't want any Americans dying over other countries problems but at the same time the world can't just stand by and watch women&children being gassed to death someone will have to stand up for them no ?

polaris_x

Halifax2TheMax said:

polaris_x said:

Dude ... all the information regarding these gas attacks have come from Jihadist groups ... i.e. the White Helmets - who are the biggest frauds out there.  Do some independent research on them and you will see they have been expertly trained by PR companies in staging fake videos. 

I mentioned this in the other Syria thread ... why on earth would Assad gas his own people!!? ... look at the result! ... more foreign intervention! ... is it a coincidence that EVERY time Trump says he is gonna pull out of Syria - there is a gas attack!?? ... this makes no sense whatsoever ... each time they claim a gas attack - it's been debunked ... there is an international body that is meant to investigate these claims OPCW ... hopefully, they will be allowed to do their jobs and they can provide truth ...

The media are portraying Assad as some brutal dictator but if you do just a bit of digging into who he really is ... you will see that it doesn't match ... this guy drives his own car around the country and walks amongst his people freely ... brutal dictators do not do that ... they hole themselves up in their private resorts and play golf ...

The first thing people have to realize in this conflict is that there are NO moderate rebels.  Syria is at war with Al Qaeda, ISIS and other Extremist Islamic Factions.  The same groups that have run rampant in IRaq, Libya and Afghanistan thanks to US support.  These so called rebels are all foreign!

You clearly don’t have a grasp of the Assad family and regime’s history. Read up on Homs, early to mid mid 80s. What purpose and what gain is there for the media to flame or purport the narrative? Clicks? Advertising revenue? That said, the US shouldn’t be involved, shouldn’t have been involved and we should tell the Saudis to stay the fuck out of Yemen. But you don’t mention the third rail of Middle East politics and tensions, Israel. Why is that?

Bashar-Al Assad is not his father.  He only came into power when his brother died.  Up until then he just wanted to be an eye doctor studying in London.  Since coming into power he has brought in free elections - I suspect many will question the legitimacy of these elections but that's on you. 

I don't mention Israel for the same reasons I don't mention Turkey or Saudi Arabia here.  At the crux of it - it is US/UK interests that are the main drivers of the conflict here.  For sure Israel and Turkey and Saudi Arabia are players.

polaris_x

Bentleyspop said:

assad is a dictator who kills his own people 
When you support assad in any way, shape, or form you support evil
When you support evil in any way, shape, or form you are evil as well.

Namaste'

What proof do you have?
And from what country do you cast accusations?  Please don't say America because the world knows there is no greater threat to peace and security than the American Imperialistic Agenda. 

polaris_x

josevolution said:

Heck i say let them all fight their own battles starting with Israel , i don't want any Americans dying over other countries problems but at the same time the world can't just stand by and watch women&children being gassed to death someone will have to stand up for them no ?

America is not in the middle east as saviours of innocent people.  They are there forging their own economic and military interests.  They are the cause of the problems there - not the solution.

polaris_x

josevolution said:

polaris_x said:

Dude ... all the information regarding these gas attacks have come from Jihadist groups ... i.e. the White Helmets - who are the biggest frauds out there.  Do some independent research on them and you will see they have been expertly trained by PR companies in staging fake videos. 

I mentioned this in the other Syria thread ... why on earth would Assad gas his own people!!? ... look at the result! ... more foreign intervention! ... is it a coincidence that EVERY time Trump says he is gonna pull out of Syria - there is a gas attack!?? ... this makes no sense whatsoever ... each time they claim a gas attack - it's been debunked ... there is an international body that is meant to investigate these claims OPCW ... hopefully, they will be allowed to do their jobs and they can provide truth ...

The media are portraying Assad as some brutal dictator but if you do just a bit of digging into who he really is ... you will see that it doesn't match ... this guy drives his own car around the country and walks amongst his people freely ... brutal dictators do not do that ... they hole themselves up in their private resorts and play golf ...

The first thing people have to realize in this conflict is that there are NO moderate rebels.  Syria is at war with Al Qaeda, ISIS and other Extremist Islamic Factions.  The same groups that have run rampant in IRaq, Libya and Afghanistan thanks to US support.  These so called rebels are all foreign!

lol ASSAD the humanatarian lol yeah he's agreat guy i bet he also goes around feeding the hungry ....

Syria is a socialist country with Free health care and education. 

PJ_Soul

This is insane. Sometimes I feel like I'm living in some kind of really weird dream. How else would it possible that the POTUS is threatening military attacks against another nation that is allies with Russia via Twitter? Does Trump maybe think this is just a big game of Axis and Allies? Perhaps that is why he Tweets his simpleton game plans and thinks his relationship with Russia and Putin is fluid?

Meltdown99

Who is involved in just about every world conflict since the end of WW2?  America has no interest in peace.  

josevolution

polaris_x said:

josevolution said:

Heck i say let them all fight their own battles starting with Israel , i don't want any Americans dying over other countries problems but at the same time the world can't just stand by and watch women&children being gassed to death someone will have to stand up for them no ?

America is not in the middle east as saviours of innocent people.  They are there forging their own economic and military interests.  They are the cause of the problems there - not the solution.

Ok you have all the answers tell us what you believe the world should do to fix that nightmare region i'm all ears ...

polaris_x

josevolution said:

polaris_x said:

josevolution said:

Heck i say let them all fight their own battles starting with Israel , i don't want any Americans dying over other countries problems but at the same time the world can't just stand by and watch women&children being gassed to death someone will have to stand up for them no ?

America is not in the middle east as saviours of innocent people.  They are there forging their own economic and military interests.  They are the cause of the problems there - not the solution.

Ok you have all the answers tell us what you believe the world should do to fix that nightmare region i'm all ears ...

First you have to define the problem.  What do you think is the problem?  Do you think the rise of extremists groups such as ISIS, Al-Nusra Front, Al Qaeda and the likes is a problem?

If so, you have to ask yourself how it came to be that these factions have gained territory all through the middle east?  Countries bombed incessantly and then left to pick up the pieces.  Look at Iraq (again, still no WMD's) - it's all gone to shit because just like Iran before, Central America, South America and SE Asia - America has economic interests and are prepared to do what they want.

Check out the video I posted about the Whistleblowers.  These real heroes - provided documented proof of the true agenda American interests have in the Middle East.  These people knew it was immoral and did something about it.  The same people see the same thing happening in Syria as it has happened all over the world.

Meltdown99

josevolution said:

polaris_x said:

josevolution said:

Heck i say let them all fight their own battles starting with Israel , i don't want any Americans dying over other countries problems but at the same time the world can't just stand by and watch women&children being gassed to death someone will have to stand up for them no ?

America is not in the middle east as saviours of innocent people.  They are there forging their own economic and military interests.  They are the cause of the problems there - not the solution.

Ok you have all the answers tell us what you believe the world should do to fix that nightmare region i'm all ears ...

More bombs and wars are not the solution ... maybe America should mine its own business, doesn't the us have enough problems of its own...maybe take some of that war money and provide health care for her citizens...

lolobugg

polaris_x said:

josevolution said:

polaris_x said:

josevolution said:

Heck i say let them all fight their own battles starting with Israel , i don't want any Americans dying over other countries problems but at the same time the world can't just stand by and watch women&children being gassed to death someone will have to stand up for them no ?

America is not in the middle east as saviours of innocent people.  They are there forging their own economic and military interests.  They are the cause of the problems there - not the solution.

Ok you have all the answers tell us what you believe the world should do to fix that nightmare region i'm all ears ...

First you have to define the problem.  What do you think is the problem?  Do you think the rise of extremists groups such as ISIS, Al-Nusra Front, Al Qaeda and the likes is a problem?

If so, you have to ask yourself how it came to be that these factions have gained territory all through the middle east?  Countries bombed incessantly and then left to pick up the pieces.  Look at Iraq (again, still no WMD's) - it's all gone to shit because just like Iran before, Central America, South America and SE Asia - America has economic interests and are prepared to do what they want.

Check out the video I posted about the Whistleblowers.  These real heroes - provided documented proof of the true agenda American interests have in the Middle East.  These people knew it was immoral and did something about it.  The same people see the same thing happening in Syria as it has happened all over the world.

I agree with you, Polaris.

based on what my good friend who has relatives in the region has told me.

This is a smokescreen to gain control of Syria by the US government 

polaris_x

Meltdown99 said:

josevolution said:

polaris_x said:

josevolution said:

Heck i say let them all fight their own battles starting with Israel , i don't want any Americans dying over other countries problems but at the same time the world can't just stand by and watch women&children being gassed to death someone will have to stand up for them no ?

America is not in the middle east as saviours of innocent people.  They are there forging their own economic and military interests.  They are the cause of the problems there - not the solution.

Ok you have all the answers tell us what you believe the world should do to fix that nightmare region i'm all ears ...

More bombs and wars are not the solution ... maybe America should mine its own business, doesn't the us have enough problems of its own...maybe take some of that war money and provide health care for her citizens...

America's economy is dependent on war profiteering and gaining access to other countries resources.

polaris_x

check out Ron Paul's twitter feed for more on Syria ...

https://twitter.com/RonPaul

lastexitlondon

This is a very good thread for me
  Learning lots here. That i did not know. 

polaris_x

lolobugg said:

polaris_x said:

josevolution said:

polaris_x said:

josevolution said:

Heck i say let them all fight their own battles starting with Israel , i don't want any Americans dying over other countries problems but at the same time the world can't just stand by and watch women&children being gassed to death someone will have to stand up for them no ?

America is not in the middle east as saviours of innocent people.  They are there forging their own economic and military interests.  They are the cause of the problems there - not the solution.

Ok you have all the answers tell us what you believe the world should do to fix that nightmare region i'm all ears ...

First you have to define the problem.  What do you think is the problem?  Do you think the rise of extremists groups such as ISIS, Al-Nusra Front, Al Qaeda and the likes is a problem?

If so, you have to ask yourself how it came to be that these factions have gained territory all through the middle east?  Countries bombed incessantly and then left to pick up the pieces.  Look at Iraq (again, still no WMD's) - it's all gone to shit because just like Iran before, Central America, South America and SE Asia - America has economic interests and are prepared to do what they want.

Check out the video I posted about the Whistleblowers.  These real heroes - provided documented proof of the true agenda American interests have in the Middle East.  These people knew it was immoral and did something about it.  The same people see the same thing happening in Syria as it has happened all over the world.

I agree with you, Polaris.

based on what my good friend who has relatives in the region has told me.

This is a smokescreen to gain control of Syria by the US government 

The scary part for me is - it's the same playbook over and over again.  Yet, people still keep eating this stuff up!  It's like at no point is there any learning. 

lolobugg

polaris_x said:

lolobugg said:

polaris_x said:

josevolution said:

polaris_x said:

josevolution said:

Heck i say let them all fight their own battles starting with Israel , i don't want any Americans dying over other countries problems but at the same time the world can't just stand by and watch women&children being gassed to death someone will have to stand up for them no ?

America is not in the middle east as saviours of innocent people.  They are there forging their own economic and military interests.  They are the cause of the problems there - not the solution.

Ok you have all the answers tell us what you believe the world should do to fix that nightmare region i'm all ears ...

First you have to define the problem.  What do you think is the problem?  Do you think the rise of extremists groups such as ISIS, Al-Nusra Front, Al Qaeda and the likes is a problem?

If so, you have to ask yourself how it came to be that these factions have gained territory all through the middle east?  Countries bombed incessantly and then left to pick up the pieces.  Look at Iraq (again, still no WMD's) - it's all gone to shit because just like Iran before, Central America, South America and SE Asia - America has economic interests and are prepared to do what they want.

Check out the video I posted about the Whistleblowers.  These real heroes - provided documented proof of the true agenda American interests have in the Middle East.  These people knew it was immoral and did something about it.  The same people see the same thing happening in Syria as it has happened all over the world.

I agree with you, Polaris.

based on what my good friend who has relatives in the region has told me.

This is a smokescreen to gain control of Syria by the US government 

The scary part for me is - it's the same playbook over and over again.  Yet, people still keep eating this stuff up!  It's like at no point is there any learning. 

Yep. anytime there is a call to bomb somewhere... just look around and you will find it to be a reason to get the public's eyes off of some scandal or for a purpose other than what they are telling us......  so obvious to me at this point. thanks for sharing the videos. It takes alternate media to educate us Americans. we are so trained to go for the dog whistle of corporate media.

josevolution

polaris_x said:

josevolution said:

polaris_x said:

josevolution said:

Heck i say let them all fight their own battles starting with Israel , i don't want any Americans dying over other countries problems but at the same time the world can't just stand by and watch women&children being gassed to death someone will have to stand up for them no ?

America is not in the middle east as saviours of innocent people.  They are there forging their own economic and military interests.  They are the cause of the problems there - not the solution.

Ok you have all the answers tell us what you believe the world should do to fix that nightmare region i'm all ears ...

First you have to define the problem.  What do you think is the problem?  Do you think the rise of extremists groups such as ISIS, Al-Nusra Front, Al Qaeda and the likes is a problem?

If so, you have to ask yourself how it came to be that these factions have gained territory all through the middle east?  Countries bombed incessantly and then left to pick up the pieces.  Look at Iraq (again, still no WMD's) - it's all gone to shit because just like Iran before, Central America, South America and SE Asia - America has economic interests and are prepared to do what they want.

Check out the video I posted about the Whistleblowers.  These real heroes - provided documented proof of the true agenda American interests have in the Middle East.  These people knew it was immoral and did something about it.  The same people see the same thing happening in Syria as it has happened all over the world.

So as i see it America needs to get the hell out of the Middle east , i have no problem with that let them figure out & build their countries back up and we should fund the countries we've distabilized to pay them back ..I can't look at any videos here at work but i will when i get home ...