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kaw753 said:
with th the odds for Wrigley dropping, I’m kinda glad for higher prices, maybe people deciding on less showshippiemom = goodness0 -
cincybearcat said:kaw753 said:
with th the odds for Wrigley dropping, I’m kinda glad for higher prices, maybe people deciding on less shows0 -
jpdannabelle said:northerndragon said:I always laugh and shake my head when I see these threads.
We knew we were underpaying to see PJ in major arenas and stadiums for years. We got a kick out of it. Now that we are paying a little closer to average our consumeristic middle aged asses get super whiney.
If it's too expensive then don't go. Otherwise pay up and enjoy the show. I have been front row to the last row in the building and behind the band. They have never disappointed.
The only thing that disappointing was the douche evenbros in my section at Wrigley 1 in 2016. That wasn't the band's fault.
I have paid and will do so again to just get in the building. Dont care where I sit.
I swear it seems like for some people it's like they are more interested in the bragging rights than the experience of seeing the band. And that is sad to me.2014: Cincinnati
2016: Lexington and Wrigley 10 -
My Hampton 2016 10c tix were $1590
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deadendp said:jpdannabelle said:northerndragon said:I always laugh and shake my head when I see these threads.
We knew we were underpaying to see PJ in major arenas and stadiums for years. We got a kick out of it. Now that we are paying a little closer to average our consumeristic middle aged asses get super whiney.
If it's too expensive then don't go. Otherwise pay up and enjoy the show. I have been front row to the last row in the building and behind the band. They have never disappointed.
The only thing that disappointing was the douche evenbros in my section at Wrigley 1 in 2016. That wasn't the band's fault.
I have paid and will do so again to just get in the building. Dont care where I sit.
I swear it seems like for some people it's like they are more interested in the bragging rights than the experience of seeing the band. And that is sad to me.
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interesting topic. my two cents is that it is always important to consider the time value of money (e.g. compounding, inflation, and real dollars) when talking about this kind of issue. mainly because the face value percentage increases over time (particular longer time frames) appear egregious when you see that Wrigley is up some 46% since the 1st show in 2013.
so, what percentage should it be up and what do you consider acceptable rates of inflation for concert costs? this is a complicated question and I would suggest the ways in which bands have to make money now have changed dramatically based on technology, etc.
i pulled some of the ticket costs I paid from the club over time and they are shown below. i compared Toledo 1996 (Ticketmaster alt venue tour) and Wrigley 2013 vs. the current costs for Wrigley 2018. nominally, they are up considerably per year vs. the current prices. however, in real (inflation adjusted) dollars they are up around 8% per year. i find it interesting that the real increases over time are roughly the same and may suggest their is a fairly consistent percentage of cost inflation being applied by the tenclub from tour to tour.
in this case we are back to whether say an 8% increase in ticket costs year over year is fair, reasonable, standard, and/or necessary for the industry, the fans, and PJ. the last column is what you would expect a ticket to cost based on 3% inflation which is closer to the average CPI over the last decade or so. however, this magnitude may have no relation to the actual costs incurred by the band considering the revenue models they are now employing: their price increases are suggesting its closer to the 8%.
this is all a crap shoot because no one really knows the true profit, salaries, revenue streams, cost structures, etc. behind the scenes from year-to-year. i would suggest that given how much these dynamics have changed due to technology and the cyclical nature of album release and touring, it appears the tenclub is at least partially insulating the fan base from these swings and increases may even be capped by policy (regardless of costs incurred year-to-year by the band and club).
Show Tenclub Paid Price Nominal Yearly Increase (vs Wrigley 2018) Real Yearly Increase (vs Wrigley 2018) "Should be" cost today (3% yearly inflation) Toledo 1996 $ 22.00 20.8% 7.82% $42.55 Detroit 2003 $ 55.58 Grand Rapids 2006 $ 58.45 LA 2009 $ 81.50 St. Louis 2010 $ 75.00 Alpine Valley 2011 $ 83.50 Winnipeg 2011 $ 78.63 Wrigley 2013 $ 84.00 9.2% 7.57% $97.58 Wrigley 2016 $ 94.00 Wrigley 2018 $ 122.50 0 -
Obviously any increase stings a bit for the wallet, but for me, this is exactly what I save for. The return--the shows, the experience, the travel, the friends, the pure happiness that I feel--is second to none. I am curious to see what next arena show tour will go for, though--hopefully not as much of an increase.
"Sometimes you find yourself having to put all your faith in no faith."
~not a dude~
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CopperTom said:St.John's 9/24/2005
St.John's 9/25/2005
Toronto 9/11/2011
Toronto 9/12/2011
Quebec City 5/5/2016
Ottawa 5/8/20160 -
Jvfireman416 said:NewJPage said:RoleModelsinBlood31 said:kaw753 said:RoleModelsinBlood31 said:If you add the cost of the beer during your piss break, even flow costs you about $12.NewJPage said:RoleModelsinBlood31 said:kaw753 said:RoleModelsinBlood31 said:If you add the cost of the beer during your piss break, even flow costs you about $12.NewJPage said:RoleModelsinBlood31 said:kaw753 said:RoleModelsinBlood31 said:If you add the cost of the beer during your piss break, even flow costs you about $12.NewJPage said:RoleModelsinBlood31 said:kaw753 said:RoleModelsinBlood31 said:If you add the cost of the beer during your piss break, even flow costs you about $12.
Alive put Pearl Jam on the map and has one of the great guitar solos in rock history. Love the people who think being a "real fan" means you have to love the obscure songs.
Face it.... Bugs is hard on the ears and to be honest I could do without tremor christ.
I like sirens because it is full circle from Black. In that perspective to me it is incredibly cool. It also is an obviously Gilmore influenced solo.
Evenflow and Alive. (Time to take a wiz songs hey??) Those are a few of PJ's signature songs. Some people have never seen this band live before. I still like Jeremy every time. I've never seen Pink Floyd in person, but if I did, I'd want to hear The Wall at some point.
Do you think Willie Nelson ever gets tired of singing Whiskey River? No it's a good song he sings it damn near every show, & he knows about 2,000 songs. You always get the classics from Willie, & what ever else he feels like playing on any given night. Willie Nelson doesn't even have a set list. His band has to know every song that he might play. He strums a few chords and the band just falls in line, Willie doesn't know what he is going to play until he's playing it. And when they (the band) don't know the song, they improvise & figure it out real fast. Pretty amazing if you ask me.
There are people at every PJ show that have never seen this band. So if you've just discovered PJ, or were 4 the first time you heard Evenflow & now get to hear it for the first time in person, it's a pretty big deal.
In addition to the Rarities, new songs & improvs, I always love the classics.
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Asking for a friend, what if you win all your selections but your credit card didn't expect you to?
Does 10C try and draw the funds again or is that it...George, US (September 01, 2005)
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Los Angeles, US (November 24, 2013)Adelaide, AU (January 31, 2014)Seattle, WA (August 8, 2018)Seattle, WA (August 10, 2018)Missoula, MT (August 13 2018)0 -
Mr Benjamin said:Asking for a friend, what if you win all your selections but your credit card didn't expect you to?
Does 10C try and draw the funds again or is that it...2014: Cincinnati
2016: Lexington and Wrigley 10 -
Mr Benjamin said:Asking for a friend, what if you win all your selections but your credit card didn't expect you to?
Does 10C try and draw the funds again or is that it...
If there are insufficient funds at the time of the drawing, that's it. Those tickets get bounced on to the next guy. Right??Post edited by RYME on0 -
RYME said:Mr Benjamin said:Asking for a friend, what if you win all your selections but your credit card didn't expect you to?
Does 10C try and draw the funds again or is that it...
If there are insufficient funds at the time of the drawing, that's it. Those tickets get bounced on to the next guy. Right??
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Mr Benjamin said:RYME said:Mr Benjamin said:Asking for a friend, what if you win all your selections but your credit card didn't expect you to?
Does 10C try and draw the funds again or is that it...
If there are insufficient funds at the time of the drawing, that's it. Those tickets get bounced on to the next guy. Right??
Thanks
It's not too late to cancel your lottery entry and just put in for the tickets you can afford...
You have until 10am PT tomorrow to do so!!!'96: Seattle: Key Arena
'98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
'00: Columbus: Polaris
'03: Columbus: Germain
'10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
'11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
'12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
'13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
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'15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
'16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
'17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
'18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
'22: Nashville / St. Louis0 -
Put in for a pair for each of the Fenway shows this morning, but no 1$ charge on my CC and no confirmation. Now what?Tampa 04/16
Fenway 1 08/16
Fenway 2 08/16
Fenway 1 09/18
Fenway 2 09/18
PJ songs at our wedding: Love Reign O'er Me (1st dance); Sirens (last dance); Long Road (Momma-Son dance).0 -
As long as you see your entry on the tickets page, I wouldn't worry about it. I never got charged the $1 either, but my wife's account did. Both show as entered. I've seen a bunch of other peopel say the same.0
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derbydave said:Mr Benjamin said:RYME said:Mr Benjamin said:Asking for a friend, what if you win all your selections but your credit card didn't expect you to?
Does 10C try and draw the funds again or is that it...
If there are insufficient funds at the time of the drawing, that's it. Those tickets get bounced on to the next guy. Right??
Thanks
It's not too late to cancel your lottery entry and just put in for the tickets you can afford...
You have until 10am PT tomorrow to do so!!!Uniondale, NY 04/30/03 - Camden, NJ 07/05/03 - MSG 07/08/03 - Reading, PA 10/01/04 - Philly 10/03/05 - Ed Sullivan Theatre 05/04/06 - MSG 06/25/08 - MSG 05/21/10 - NYC (EV solo) 06/21/11 - Montreal 09/07/11 - Brooklyn 10/18/13 - Central Park 09/26/15 - Philly 04/29/16 - MSG 05/01/16 - MSG 05/02/16 - Fenway 08/05/16 - Fenway 09/02/18 - Fenway 09/04/180 -
Just was in my account and noticed the $98 increase for the pair compared to my last purchase...ouch. Missoula show, so the increase can't really even be attributed to it being a "major" stadium show.0
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wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....every year we cant get by the complaints, its either price, the lottery process, seniority not meaning enough, not getting tickets when all you did was shot for the moon with GA...just be happy that the band is still playing shows and putting out new music, they could of retired years ago and disappeared with their family, yet they continue to give back to their fans!This could be the day0
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RatsTJRats said:wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....every year we cant get by the complaints, its either price, the lottery process, seniority not meaning enough, not getting tickets when all you did was shot for the moon with GA...just be happy that the band is still playing shows and putting out new music, they could of retired years ago and disappeared with their family, yet they continue to give back to their fans!Mansfield 6/30/08 - Wrigley Field 7/14/13 - Worcester I 10/15/13 - Global Citizen 9/26/15 - MSG II 5/2/16 - Fenway I 8/5/16 - Fenway II 8/7/16 - Fenway II 9/4/18 - LA I 5/6/22 - LA II 5/7/22 - MSG 9/11/22 - Nashville 9/16/22 - St. Paul I and II 8/31/23-9/2/23 - Napa 5/25/24 - MSG I 9/3/24 - MSG II 9/4/24 - Hollywood FL I 4/24/25 - Hollywood FL II 4/26/250
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