2020 Tour Rumor Thread

JimmyV

Vedd Hedd said:

Lerxst1992 said:

JimmyV said:

Noload said:

JimmyV said:

Meh. States that can't get their shit together well enough not to vote for Trump shouldn't be rewarded. 

They have fans that didn't vote for Trump in every state. If they want to screen their destinations based on red/blue, that's their choice obviously, but I give them more credit than to make that the litmus for show locations.  

I don't disagree at all. I guess I should have said, "States that can't get their shit together well enough not to vote for Trump shouldn't be rewarded because of that."

The band is going to play where the band is going to play, and I doubt red/blue is really much of a consideration. 

The country has changed drastically since 2013/14 (the last full tour) and I wonder if progressives like some in this band are starting to feel honestly uncomfortable in solid red states. For example open carry laws do make some of us blue staters VERY uncomfortable. 

(BTW the above comment is not about politics)

The last time I saw a show in Nashville (2003), there was a delay in getting into the venue. I asked a cop if he knew why there was a delay, and the guy said, "Well that sonofabitch singer was killing a doll of the president on stage during his last show, so now there is a bomb threat."

SMH

Good thing everything is so much better now. 

Bigrfish

alfkullbe82 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Prague 2018 was phenomenal in part that it was an arena.  Even though a big place it still has a much better atmosphere than a stadium.  

Absolutely! That was my first ever PJ show after 27 frickin' years...and it was mindblowing. I never thought that an arena show could be intimate, but Prague 2018 pulled it off.
As much as I like travelling for gigs, I shure hope they'll do the Nordic countries on the next Euro tour...they completely got overseen in 2018.

28 years between shows for me. Not Prague.. but we did Krakow, and participated in an amazing show at Tauron arena.. Berlin was pretty cool for an outdoor show as well.

Bigrfish

On board for some Western Canada dates

Noload

Lerxst1992 said:

JimmyV said:

Noload said:

JimmyV said:

Meh. States that can't get their shit together well enough not to vote for Trump shouldn't be rewarded. 

They have fans that didn't vote for Trump in every state. If they want to screen their destinations based on red/blue, that's their choice obviously, but I give them more credit than to make that the litmus for show locations.  

I don't disagree at all. I guess I should have said, "States that can't get their shit together well enough not to vote for Trump shouldn't be rewarded because of that."

The band is going to play where the band is going to play, and I doubt red/blue is really much of a consideration. 

The country has changed drastically since 2013/14 (the last full tour) and I wonder if progressives like some in this band are starting to feel honestly uncomfortable in solid red states. For example open carry laws do make some of us blue staters VERY uncomfortable. 

(BTW the above comment is not about politics)

That will leave 4 states plus DC they can play if they make it by that standard.

cblock4life

Ninetytworules said:

cblock4life said:

given2fly23 said:

cblock4life said:

given2fly23 said:

Mike D88 said:

I'm not white enough to leave the country and guarantee I can get back in.

Same here. I actually was harassed by CBP in 2018 when I got back from shows in Barcelona/London/Italy.  I'd prefer to not go through that again.

I’m so sorry you endured this.  Very sad.

Thank you. It's important that people know this is happening. I was born here to legal parents and even have Global Entry/pre-check--didnt matter. Only suspicion was that I'm brown. We're at their mercy. 

Narrow minded people don’t even realize that we all came from Africa. Nothing more satisfying than telling a room full of racists they’re actually black when you explain the migration of humans. 
There are a lot of us out there who know what’s happening and care. I just don’t know if or when it will change because it seems to get worse.

Well said cock block 4 life.

Hmmmm....please don't think I'm a jag-off but our definition of "c block" is actually where inmates convicted of murder are housed in PA.  My husband is a retired correctional officer who always worked c block....perhaps we need to change it but it did make me laugh!

evenflow82

Don't think I would go to a ballpark show unless it was in my hometown.  In that case, I'll take what I can get in Minnesota.  

From what I've heard there's always been a standing offer at Target Field. Target was a sponsor for Backspacer, Eddie is a Twins fan, there's a play MN thread on the board that has almost 11,000 replies, the first date sold out on the 2014 midwest tour was St. Paul, the event would pull from across the midwest and be a welcomed change up from the wrigley rut.  There are my reasons. :-)

cblock4life

Vedd Hedd said:

Lerxst1992 said:

JimmyV said:

Noload said:

JimmyV said:

Meh. States that can't get their shit together well enough not to vote for Trump shouldn't be rewarded. 

They have fans that didn't vote for Trump in every state. If they want to screen their destinations based on red/blue, that's their choice obviously, but I give them more credit than to make that the litmus for show locations.  

I don't disagree at all. I guess I should have said, "States that can't get their shit together well enough not to vote for Trump shouldn't be rewarded because of that."

The band is going to play where the band is going to play, and I doubt red/blue is really much of a consideration. 

The country has changed drastically since 2013/14 (the last full tour) and I wonder if progressives like some in this band are starting to feel honestly uncomfortable in solid red states. For example open carry laws do make some of us blue staters VERY uncomfortable. 

(BTW the above comment is not about politics)

The last time I saw a show in Nashville (2003), there was a delay in getting into the venue. I asked a cop if he knew why there was a delay, and the guy said, "Well that sonofabitch singer was killing a doll of the president on stage during his last show, so now there is a bomb threat."

Went to Pilgrimage in Franklin TN for EV solo (came on stage and he knelt).  When he did speak politics there was noticeable silence with some departing at that point.  So I guess things haven't changed much since 2003.  Nevertheless it was a great festival.  

HughFreakingDillon

evenflow82 said:

Don't think I would go to a ballpark show unless it was in my hometown.  In that case, I'll take what I can get in Minnesota.  

From what I've heard there's always been a standing offer at Target Field. Target was a sponsor for Backspacer, Eddie is a Twins fan, there's a play MN thread on the board that has almost 11,000 replies, the first date sold out on the 2014 midwest tour was St. Paul, the event would pull from across the midwest and be a welcomed change up from the wrigley rut.  There are my reasons. :-)

I was at that St Paul show. was an great one. 

cblock4life

HughFreakingDillon said:

evenflow82 said:

Don't think I would go to a ballpark show unless it was in my hometown.  In that case, I'll take what I can get in Minnesota.  

From what I've heard there's always been a standing offer at Target Field. Target was a sponsor for Backspacer, Eddie is a Twins fan, there's a play MN thread on the board that has almost 11,000 replies, the first date sold out on the 2014 midwest tour was St. Paul, the event would pull from across the midwest and be a welcomed change up from the wrigley rut.  There are my reasons. :-)

I was at that St Paul show. was an great one. 

Do you do the merch thing, standing in line etc.?

Has anyone ever noticed the white van that travels everywhere and stalks the Merch trailer till it opens....crazy stuff happened at that concert.  

Vedd Hedd

cblock4life said:

Vedd Hedd said:

Lerxst1992 said:

JimmyV said:

Noload said:

JimmyV said:

Meh. States that can't get their shit together well enough not to vote for Trump shouldn't be rewarded. 

They have fans that didn't vote for Trump in every state. If they want to screen their destinations based on red/blue, that's their choice obviously, but I give them more credit than to make that the litmus for show locations.  

I don't disagree at all. I guess I should have said, "States that can't get their shit together well enough not to vote for Trump shouldn't be rewarded because of that."

The band is going to play where the band is going to play, and I doubt red/blue is really much of a consideration. 

The country has changed drastically since 2013/14 (the last full tour) and I wonder if progressives like some in this band are starting to feel honestly uncomfortable in solid red states. For example open carry laws do make some of us blue staters VERY uncomfortable. 

(BTW the above comment is not about politics)

The last time I saw a show in Nashville (2003), there was a delay in getting into the venue. I asked a cop if he knew why there was a delay, and the guy said, "Well that sonofabitch singer was killing a doll of the president on stage during his last show, so now there is a bomb threat."

Went to Pilgrimage in Franklin TN for EV solo (came on stage and he knelt).  When he did speak politics there was noticeable silence with some departing at that point.  So I guess things haven't changed much since 2003.  Nevertheless it was a great festival.  

'Wait, this guy isnt conservative?  Since when?  We are outta here."

RS151862

HughFreakingDillon said:

evenflow82 said:

Don't think I would go to a ballpark show unless it was in my hometown.  In that case, I'll take what I can get in Minnesota.  

From what I've heard there's always been a standing offer at Target Field. Target was a sponsor for Backspacer, Eddie is a Twins fan, there's a play MN thread on the board that has almost 11,000 replies, the first date sold out on the 2014 midwest tour was St. Paul, the event would pull from across the midwest and be a welcomed change up from the wrigley rut.  There are my reasons. :-)

I was at that St Paul show. was an great one. 

Except for that momentum killing, rambling 10 minute speech from a doctor mid set. 

Spiritual_Chaos

PJNB said:

My guess is 2020 Australia before or after USA. 2021 gets SA in the spring. Euro in the summer and mid west somewheres in there too. Maybe late fall after baseball playoffs. 

Sounds to ambitious. 

My guess is: Australia (maybe a short stint in asia) and US in 2020. 

South America and Europe in 2021

EDIT: read your post wrong. 

jdopj

MayDay10 said:

100 Pacer said:

Never understood the hate for ballpark shows. Everyone involved has a great time and there are always plenty of surprises. Not to mention the city overrun with more PJ fans than you’d typically see. They’ll be plenty of options next year but stadiums every couple of years is a niche this band thrives in.

I am a mile and a half away and the sound quality is diminished, if not distorted at times.  Unless I go into a giant GA pit with all sorts of competition for personal space.  The whole scene is very open-air and the very opposite of 'intimate'.  From a $200? seat last year, I couldn't even see Mike 70% of the time as he was blocked by the rigging/stage, and couldnt see the drum kit at all.  Had to watch on the screen for the most part. 

The venues themselves (like Wrigley) arent designed for that many humans.  Everything is packed and uncomfortable, whether its the streets around the stadium, gates to get in, or the concourses.  

The weather uncertainty, with the urgency of lots of $$$ spent for travel.

The merch conventions blown up.  4-6 posters for the show(s).  I realize we get this with more conventional shows, but with these ballpark shows the merch thing is injected with roids.  



And yes, a Pearl Jam concert is still a concert.  But for me, to take multiple days off of work, pay money for flights, beg parents or in-laws to watch the kids for a few days, board the dog, pay for hotel room, etc, the ballpark show is not enough of a payoff of a concert experience.  There is a lot of alternative things I would rather do with that currency than see a ballpark show.  

100% agree

mcgruff10

jdopj said:

MayDay10 said:

100 Pacer said:

Never understood the hate for ballpark shows. Everyone involved has a great time and there are always plenty of surprises. Not to mention the city overrun with more PJ fans than you’d typically see. They’ll be plenty of options next year but stadiums every couple of years is a niche this band thrives in.

I am a mile and a half away and the sound quality is diminished, if not distorted at times.  Unless I go into a giant GA pit with all sorts of competition for personal space.  The whole scene is very open-air and the very opposite of 'intimate'.  From a $200? seat last year, I couldn't even see Mike 70% of the time as he was blocked by the rigging/stage, and couldnt see the drum kit at all.  Had to watch on the screen for the most part. 

The venues themselves (like Wrigley) arent designed for that many humans.  Everything is packed and uncomfortable, whether its the streets around the stadium, gates to get in, or the concourses.  

The weather uncertainty, with the urgency of lots of $$$ spent for travel.

The merch conventions blown up.  4-6 posters for the show(s).  I realize we get this with more conventional shows, but with these ballpark shows the merch thing is injected with roids.  



And yes, a Pearl Jam concert is still a concert.  But for me, to take multiple days off of work, pay money for flights, beg parents or in-laws to watch the kids for a few days, board the dog, pay for hotel room, etc, the ballpark show is not enough of a payoff of a concert experience.  There is a lot of alternative things I would rather do with that currency than see a ballpark show.  

100% agree

+2. A local show sure but I will never travel for a pj ballpark concert again. 

HughFreakingDillon

cblock4life said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

evenflow82 said:

Don't think I would go to a ballpark show unless it was in my hometown.  In that case, I'll take what I can get in Minnesota.  

From what I've heard there's always been a standing offer at Target Field. Target was a sponsor for Backspacer, Eddie is a Twins fan, there's a play MN thread on the board that has almost 11,000 replies, the first date sold out on the 2014 midwest tour was St. Paul, the event would pull from across the midwest and be a welcomed change up from the wrigley rut.  There are my reasons. :-)

I was at that St Paul show. was an great one. 

Do you do the merch thing, standing in line etc.?

Has anyone ever noticed the white van that travels everywhere and stalks the Merch trailer till it opens....crazy stuff happened at that concert.  

no, wife and i saw the ridiculous line and decided to leave and see the sights. don't regret it. 

Noload

Will go out a limb and say 6-10 stadium shows, 2-4 festivals anchoring 18-24 arena (amphitheatre shows what???) In 2020 so I will say a total of...32 shows in 2020. Hold me to this..that's a big touring year with a Nov/Dec 2019 album release. It's no risk at this point. 

NewJPage

If it's stadiums I might voluntarily skip a tour for the first time since I started going to pj shows in 98. Do not have much desire to do the Wrigley thing AGAIN. 

cutz

mcgruff10 said:

jdopj said:

MayDay10 said:

100 Pacer said:

Never understood the hate for ballpark shows. Everyone involved has a great time and there are always plenty of surprises. Not to mention the city overrun with more PJ fans than you’d typically see. They’ll be plenty of options next year but stadiums every couple of years is a niche this band thrives in.

I am a mile and a half away and the sound quality is diminished, if not distorted at times.  Unless I go into a giant GA pit with all sorts of competition for personal space.  The whole scene is very open-air and the very opposite of 'intimate'.  From a $200? seat last year, I couldn't even see Mike 70% of the time as he was blocked by the rigging/stage, and couldnt see the drum kit at all.  Had to watch on the screen for the most part. 

The venues themselves (like Wrigley) arent designed for that many humans.  Everything is packed and uncomfortable, whether its the streets around the stadium, gates to get in, or the concourses.  

The weather uncertainty, with the urgency of lots of $$$ spent for travel.

The merch conventions blown up.  4-6 posters for the show(s).  I realize we get this with more conventional shows, but with these ballpark shows the merch thing is injected with roids.  



And yes, a Pearl Jam concert is still a concert.  But for me, to take multiple days off of work, pay money for flights, beg parents or in-laws to watch the kids for a few days, board the dog, pay for hotel room, etc, the ballpark show is not enough of a payoff of a concert experience.  There is a lot of alternative things I would rather do with that currency than see a ballpark show.  

100% agree

+2. A local show sure but I will never travel for a pj ballpark concert again. 

I think i'm right ther with you guys. I'll go if it's close to home, but travel days are probably over for a Ball Park show. 

Weston1283

I don’t think Chicago, Boston or Seattle will see non-baseball Park shows for a very long time

Theyre just too easy, too profitable, and they’re marketing gold

There will surely be arenas mixed in for smaller cities, but I think those 3 cities are essentially Ballpark or none.  I could also see the ballparks expanding to NYC and Philly, although I do think NYC is less likely as MSG is iconic in its own way. 

rummy

If they keep going for ball park shows, places like Portland and Vancouver are in trouble. Bummer.