Could anyone kindly summarise the many rumours please?
There will be a tour in Europe.
Dimi summary:
+ No 2020 shows in Finland. + Pearl Jam will be playing somewhere the weekend of June 26-28, but not in Gothenburg, Sweden. + Brexit could impact the tour. [I guess that means there is currently an England tour stop.] + 3 "spicy" (less toured) cities in a 5 day day stretch. + No city currently scheduled for multiple shows. + Not playing Stockholm's Globe Arena in 2020. + Announcement in December. + Sounds like no “night 2”s will be added later on. + No U.S. Spring Tour. + Many shows after Imola (?July 5?). + No 2020 shows in Ireland. + Berlin will get a show. It won’t be on June 30, though. + No show in Gdańsk or Warsaw. + Less logistically sound than usual - the next show might not be the next closest.
Pretty much same as all the recent euro tours, same countries, cities or festivals with a few extras.
Mind blowing consistency?
Like a GNR setlist. Same starter, core set, couple of changes in the middle and same finish.
Let’s get this back on track. Based on what we know: Open in Amsterdam. Then Dimi says go south. Paris? Then maybe 1 show in England. North for a stop in Copenhagen, perhaps Sweden. Back down to Werchter in Belgium. Imola in Italy July 5. Spicy 3 northeast of Italy. Graz, Ljubljana, Budapest in some order. Poland, Prague, Berlin. End with another in London, maybe Hyde Park. Sound about right?
i think its time for a big spot in uk, maybe the olympic stadium or bst in hyde park
They may well fancy a crack at a bigger venue in their own right again, somewhere in London has a better chance than the National Bowl. Ticket sales wise, that was an epic fail.
Baffles me how sales were not as expected, given others sell it out easy. Rammstein and Prodigy come to mind.
Prodigy played as part of a 2 stage 1 day festival with a pretty big line-up, that was an easy sell-out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warriors_Dance_Festival Rammstein played the football ground, Stadium MK (approx 35k for shows), which is smaller than National Bowl (capacity 65k).
PJ tickets were £70-75 IIRC, a lot in 2014, we'd had an indoor show a few days before (would have got two if MK had sold better), other big rock shows (Sabbath, Soundgarden, FNM, Motorhead etc at BST a week before), World Cup was one, the support of BRMC and Off were good but weren't enough to pull the extra 10-15k in to make it look a little fuller.
The show at MK Bowl itself was a good fun night.
Does anyone know the actual attendance of MK 2014? Some random review I searched in google claims 13,500, but I feel there was way more than that. The National bowl is huge with capacity for 65,000, so even if they sold half capacity it would still be the equivalent of 2 arena shows. I wouldn’t consider that to be an “epic fail”
I looked at some pics of past concerts at Imola Autodromo. It looks like a horrible place to see a concert, even a PJ concert. Here’s hoping the other venues are superior.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
but why you think that spicy,3 best in Europe in last 15 years is after Imola not before ???
Dimi said that the show after Imola will be an indoor show. He also said that after the spicy 3 shows there will only be (one or more?) festivals. Conclusion: the spicy 3 have to be after Imola
After Imola northeast indoor show. Ok. But a spicy? Where he said this? Can’t find it.
Let’s get this back on track. Based on what we know: Open in Amsterdam. Then Dimi says go south. Paris? Then maybe 1 show in England. North for a stop in Copenhagen, perhaps Sweden. Back down to Werchter in Belgium. Imola in Italy July 5. Spicy 3 northeast of Italy. Graz, Ljubljana, Budapest in some order. Poland, Prague, Berlin. End with another in London, maybe Hyde Park. Sound about right?
I looked at some pics of past concerts at Imola Autodromo. It looks like a horrible place to see a concert, even a PJ concert. Here’s hoping the other venues are superior.
every italian super big venue got a lot of problems of sounds and logistics. but i dont remember a single pj italian show that wasnt great, so...
no matter how cold the winter there's a springtime ahead
Let’s get this back on track. Based on what we know: Open in Amsterdam. Then Dimi says go south. Paris? Then maybe 1 show in England. North for a stop in Copenhagen, perhaps Sweden. Back down to Werchter in Belgium. Imola in Italy July 5. Spicy 3 northeast of Italy. Graz, Ljubljana, Budapest in some order. Poland, Prague, Berlin. End with another in London, maybe Hyde Park. Sound about right?
I dont have a fuckin clue!
He says the tour is illogical so rule Paris out after Amsterdam. Also there are a thousand + cities 'south' of Amsterdam... 10c never seems to make any sense going off previous tours so actually trying to predict this is a bit folly.
How many indoors in total are on the plan Dimitris?
Rock Werchter 4 july - 2010, Arras 3 july - 2010, Berlin Wuhlheide - June 30, 2010, Odyssey arena Belfast - 23 june 2010, O2 arena Dublin - june 22 2010, O2 arena London - Aug 18, 2009, Manchester Evening News Arena - Aug 17, 2009, Berlin Wuhlheide - Aug 15, 2009, Copenhagen 2007-06-26 Forum, London 2007-06-18 Wembley Arena, Prague 2006-09-22 Sazka Arena, Denmark 2000-06-30 Roskilde Festival, Stockholm on August 12th Mirrorball tour with Neil Young, Oslo 1993-06-27 Isle of Calf Festival(Kalvoya), Oslo Secret Club Concert 1993-06-26 Sentrum Scene
How many indoors in total are on the plan Dimitris?
half of ttour
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
How many indoors in total are on the plan Dimitris?
half of ttour
Are you going to all the indoor shows? Or leaving one out?
ha..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
How many indoors in total are on the plan Dimitris?
half of ttour
Dimi if I planned to do the 3 spicy ones, Berlin and UK would that be 3 indoor and 2 outdoor ? Or 4 and 1 ?
3+2
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
2007: Chorzow, PL 2014: Gdynia, PL 2017: EV Solo Berlin, DE 2018: PinkPop Festival, NL; London #1, UK; Padova, ITA; Prague, CZ; Krakow, PL; Berlin; DE; London #2, UK 2019: EV Solo Berlin, DE 2022: Berlin, Budapest, Krakow
18.06 - AMS, Ziggo 20.06 - Barcelona? 22.06 - GER 1 24.06 - Berlin 26.06 - Poland, Impact Festival Krakow 28.06 - Lollapalooza, Stockholm 30.06 - Copenhagen? 2.07 (3.07) - Rock Werchter 5.07 - Imola 6.07 - Spicy 1 8.07 - Spicy 2 10.07 - Spicy 3 12.07 - British Summer Time (Sunday, but wonder that Saturday is more possible)
the tour may need flights but they have to drive their gear by trucks so it can't be more fucked up
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2007: Chorzow, PL 2014: Gdynia, PL 2017: EV Solo Berlin, DE 2018: PinkPop Festival, NL; London #1, UK; Padova, ITA; Prague, CZ; Krakow, PL; Berlin; DE; London #2, UK 2019: EV Solo Berlin, DE 2022: Berlin, Budapest, Krakow
18.06 - AMS, Ziggo 20.06 - Barcelona? 22.06 - GER 1 24.06 - Berlin 26.06 - Poland, Impact Festival Krakow 28.06 - Lollapalooza, Stockholm 30.06 - Copenhagen? 2.07 (3.07) - Rock Werchter 5.07 - Imola 6.07 - Spicy 1 8.07 - Spicy 2 10.07 - Spicy 3 12.07 - British Summer Time (Sunday, but wonder that Saturday is more possible)
the tour may need flights but they have to drive their gear by trucks so it can't be more fucked up
This looks to me a good guess, the sequencung after imola seems a little rushed. Could the BST festival be the week after?
2006: Leeds; 2012: Manchester 1; 2014: Leeds; 2017: London 1 (EV); 2018: Amsterdam 1, London 1, London 2; 2019: Amsterdam 1 (EV), Dublin (EV); 2022: Berlin, London 1, London 2, Budapest, Krakow, Amsterdam 1, Amsterdam 2; 2023: Chicago 1, Chicago 2
18.06 - AMS, Ziggo 20.06 - Barcelona? 22.06 - GER 1 24.06 - Berlin 26.06 - Poland, Impact Festival Krakow 28.06 - Lollapalooza, Stockholm 30.06 - Copenhagen? 2.07 (3.07) - Rock Werchter 5.07 - Imola 6.07 - Spicy 1 8.07 - Spicy 2 10.07 - Spicy 3 12.07 - British Summer Time (Sunday, but wonder that Saturday is more possible)
the tour may need flights but they have to drive their gear by trucks so it can't be more fucked up
Where does the rumour of shitty lollapalooza in Sthlm come from? Same owner as Rock Werchter?
Pearl Jam has declined festivals in the nordic countries before (e.g. Peace and Love in Borlänge, Sweden)...
... would rather they play Sweden but sticking to skipping festivals.
Unless Way out West in Gothenburg due to:
The festival is vegetarian and has been completely meat free and largely dairy free since 2012 and has been certified in accordance with ISO 20121 since 2013, a testament to the festival's sustainability efforts, which have seen it reduce its carbon footprint year-by-year.
Throw some of your weight around PJ to do the right thing and only play vegetarian festivals @Kelly Curtis
Do the right thing.
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
How many indoors in total are on the plan Dimitris?
half of ttour
Are you going to all the indoor shows? Or leaving one out?
ha..
ok so it’s just a ten date tour, not 12
If they plan to release a new album next year, I think they will do a longer tour than only 10 dates.
Rock Werchter 4 july - 2010, Arras 3 july - 2010, Berlin Wuhlheide - June 30, 2010, Odyssey arena Belfast - 23 june 2010, O2 arena Dublin - june 22 2010, O2 arena London - Aug 18, 2009, Manchester Evening News Arena - Aug 17, 2009, Berlin Wuhlheide - Aug 15, 2009, Copenhagen 2007-06-26 Forum, London 2007-06-18 Wembley Arena, Prague 2006-09-22 Sazka Arena, Denmark 2000-06-30 Roskilde Festival, Stockholm on August 12th Mirrorball tour with Neil Young, Oslo 1993-06-27 Isle of Calf Festival(Kalvoya), Oslo Secret Club Concert 1993-06-26 Sentrum Scene
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Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
10c never seems to make any sense going off previous tours so actually trying to predict this is a bit folly.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
2014: Gdynia, PL
2017: EV Solo Berlin, DE
2018: PinkPop Festival, NL; London #1, UK; Padova, ITA; Prague, CZ; Krakow, PL; Berlin; DE; London #2, UK
2019: EV Solo Berlin, DE
2022: Berlin, Budapest, Krakow
20.06 - Barcelona?
22.06 - GER 1
24.06 - Berlin
26.06 - Poland, Impact Festival Krakow
28.06 - Lollapalooza, Stockholm
30.06 - Copenhagen?
2.07 (3.07) - Rock Werchter
5.07 - Imola
6.07 - Spicy 1
8.07 - Spicy 2
10.07 - Spicy 3
12.07 - British Summer Time (Sunday, but wonder that Saturday is more possible)
the tour may need flights but they have to drive their gear by trucks so it can't be more fucked up
2014: Gdynia, PL
2017: EV Solo Berlin, DE
2018: PinkPop Festival, NL; London #1, UK; Padova, ITA; Prague, CZ; Krakow, PL; Berlin; DE; London #2, UK
2019: EV Solo Berlin, DE
2022: Berlin, Budapest, Krakow
EDIT: Would they really have a 60.000+ show at Hyde Park with the Euro soccer finale in Wembley on the very same day (12.07.)?
Pearl Jam has declined festivals in the nordic countries before (e.g. Peace and Love in Borlänge, Sweden)...
... would rather they play Sweden but sticking to skipping festivals.
Unless Way out West in Gothenburg due to:
The festival is vegetarian and has been completely meat free and largely dairy free since 2012 and has been certified in accordance with ISO 20121 since 2013, a testament to the festival's sustainability efforts, which have seen it reduce its carbon footprint year-by-year.
Throw some of your weight around PJ to do the right thing and only play vegetarian festivals @Kelly Curtis
Do the right thing.
So was the Backspacer tour.