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  • BlredyellowBlredyellow Posts: 843
    Great Deep. Cool single with two very unique tracks. 
  • TC82553TC82553 AZ Posts: 6
    JimmyV said:
    If you are digital (like me) the wait continues.
    I'm analog and I'm still waiting...
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,608
    SomethingCreative said:
    I’m convinced now more than ever that 2016 was gonna be temple of the dog related.  After chris they changed their minds.  I’d bet 2017 is more of a tribute to chris rather than a “special temple of the dog issue”
    But then how much of this complaining would have been resolved by just saying so? I bet everyone would understand and have been okay with the delay if they just said they had plans for TOTD single, but were forced to change directions. It is the zero communication that makes everyone assume they just forgot.
  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,314
    mace1229 said:
    SomethingCreative said:
    I’m convinced now more than ever that 2016 was gonna be temple of the dog related.  After chris they changed their minds.  I’d bet 2017 is more of a tribute to chris rather than a “special temple of the dog issue”
    But then how much of this complaining would have been resolved by just saying so? I bet everyone would understand and have been okay with the delay if they just said they had plans for TOTD single, but were forced to change directions. It is the zero communication that makes everyone assume they just forgot.
    There's no actual indication this was the plan. If it had been we could have had it a year ago. 
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,608
    NewJPage said:
    mace1229 said:
    SomethingCreative said:
    I’m convinced now more than ever that 2016 was gonna be temple of the dog related.  After chris they changed their minds.  I’d bet 2017 is more of a tribute to chris rather than a “special temple of the dog issue”
    But then how much of this complaining would have been resolved by just saying so? I bet everyone would understand and have been okay with the delay if they just said they had plans for TOTD single, but were forced to change directions. It is the zero communication that makes everyone assume they just forgot.
    There's no actual indication this was the plan. If it had been we could have had it a year ago. 
    I agree. The "typo" almost confirms for me they didnt even know what year was due.
  • SomethingCreativeSomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,398
    mace1229 said:
    SomethingCreative said:
    I’m convinced now more than ever that 2016 was gonna be temple of the dog related.  After chris they changed their minds.  I’d bet 2017 is more of a tribute to chris rather than a “special temple of the dog issue”
    But then how much of this complaining would have been resolved by just saying so? I bet everyone would understand and have been okay with the delay if they just said they had plans for TOTD single, but were forced to change directions. It is the zero communication that makes everyone assume they just forgot.
    I’m not defending the lack of communication at all, it is and always has been extremely shitty IMO.
    "Well, I think this band is incapable of sucking."
    -my dad after hearing Not for You for the first time on SNL .
  • BlredyellowBlredyellow Posts: 843
    Love the “Alive” version. Cool with Krusen — has that 91 fluid feel. Ed sings it in a different way. Bass and guitars sound great. 

    Around and Around is very different and nice hearing them do an old school rock and roll song. 
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,457
    Chris Cornell's death is no excuse for the delay of the 2016 single.  He died May 2017.
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  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,314
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Chris Cornell's death is no excuse for the delay of the 2016 single.  He died May 2017.
    There is no relation. Convenient excuse for some, I suppose. Or perhaps wishful thinking 
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,581
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Chris Cornell's death is no excuse for the delay of the 2016 single.  He died May 2017.
    well, to be fair, if they were planning on using something from the TOTD tour, I can see it. of course, I see your point, that the 2016 single should have been in production way before then, but I'm saying if it was already going to be late, and then he passed, and they had to call an audible, I could see that. 
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,903
    NewJPage said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Chris Cornell's death is no excuse for the delay of the 2016 single.  He died May 2017.
    There is no relation. Convenient excuse for some, I suppose. Or perhaps wishful thinking 
    Well, just to play devils advocate. Seeing as the TOTD tour was in November and December of 2016, they may have thought it cool to have the deep and annual single be about that tour, which could have put it out in the spring or early summer of 2017. 
    Not saying that is not an excuse to at least tell the 10c members of a delay, or use something else.  If that was the case about their friend passing, I hope you guys tell the band members you don't think it is a garbage reason to delay the single should you ever meet any of them. 
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,581
    I doubt very highly that is what he is saying. he was saying that the single should have been decided on and in production before the TOTD tour. 
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • 3days3days Posts: 1,188
    Wow! I feel like the criticisms are really unnecessary at this point. This is becoming nutty.
  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,314
    pjsteelerfan said:
    NewJPage said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Chris Cornell's death is no excuse for the delay of the 2016 single.  He died May 2017.
    There is no relation. Convenient excuse for some, I suppose. Or perhaps wishful thinking 
    Well, just to play devils advocate. Seeing as the TOTD tour was in November and December of 2016, they may have thought it cool to have the deep and annual single be about that tour, which could have put it out in the spring or early summer of 2017. 
    Not saying that is not an excuse to at least tell the 10c members of a delay, or use something else.  If that was the case about their friend passing, I hope you guys tell the band members you don't think it is a garbage reason to delay the single should you ever meet any of them. 
    They'e released live stuff from nov/Dec on annual single and had it to us within a couple months several times. 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, etc
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 94,566
    Did anyone receive word from 10club when the 2016 Christmas Single's digital audio & Deep magazine files will be available for download over @ https://pearljam.com/ten-club/downloads ?

  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,385
    No
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,358
    3days said:
    Wow! I feel like the criticisms are really unnecessary at this point. This is becoming nutty.
    How so? A large number of us still have neither the music nor the magazine, including everyone who is digital. This continues to simply be a discussion of why that is. If anything the continued defenses and rationalizations are a bit nutty, to use your word.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,358
    demetrios said:
    Did anyone receive word from 10club when the 2016 Christmas Single's digital audio & Deep magazine files will be available for download over @ https://pearljam.com/ten-club/downloads ?

    There was an email that was shared earlier that read "hopefully soon" I believe.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,782
    JimmyV said:
    demetrios said:
    Did anyone receive word from 10club when the 2016 Christmas Single's digital audio & Deep magazine files will be available for download over @ https://pearljam.com/ten-club/downloads ?

    There was an email that was shared earlier that read "hopefully soon" I believe.

    I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest we'll get them in 6 days, with the next newsletter.  I've only been a member for a couple years now, but it seems they let a number of physical copies land before posting the digital files (which makes it temporarily "exclusive" to analog members...at least those in the U.S., lol).
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,358
    DarthMaeglin said:
    JimmyV said:
    demetrios said:
    Did anyone receive word from 10club when the 2016 Christmas Single's digital audio & Deep magazine files will be available for download over @ https://pearljam.com/ten-club/downloads ?

    There was an email that was shared earlier that read "hopefully soon" I believe.

    I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest we'll get them in 6 days, with the next newsletter.  I've only been a member for a couple years now, but it seems they let a number of physical copies land before posting the digital files (which makes it temporarily "exclusive" to analog members...at least those in the U.S., lol).
    At this point anything is possible but that is the opposite of their published policy.

    https://help.pearljam.com/hc/en-us/articles/205285910-Membership-Levels

    Ten Club Single & Deep Magazine:
    The band makes the annual Ten Club Single & Deep Magazine for the Ten Club. These are not sent right away and will be shipped to you when they are finished. You will know that these are on their way when the digital copies are made available for you on your Downloads page in your account.

    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,581
    JimmyV said:
    DarthMaeglin said:
    JimmyV said:
    demetrios said:
    Did anyone receive word from 10club when the 2016 Christmas Single's digital audio & Deep magazine files will be available for download over @ https://pearljam.com/ten-club/downloads ?

    There was an email that was shared earlier that read "hopefully soon" I believe.

    I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest we'll get them in 6 days, with the next newsletter.  I've only been a member for a couple years now, but it seems they let a number of physical copies land before posting the digital files (which makes it temporarily "exclusive" to analog members...at least those in the U.S., lol).
    At this point anything is possible but that is the opposite of their published policy.

    https://help.pearljam.com/hc/en-us/articles/205285910-Membership-Levels

    Ten Club Single & Deep Magazine:
    The band makes the annual Ten Club Single & Deep Magazine for the Ten Club. These are not sent right away and will be shipped to you when they are finished. You will know that these are on their way when the digital copies are made available for you on your Downloads page in your account.

    thank you. I'm not sure why this keeps getting ignored. I guess it's all just stupid bitching still. But jesus, do what you say you are going to do for once, FFS. 
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,206
    on2legs said:
    Interesting that there were nothing but complaints that it was so late, but now that it's been released we have.... more complaints. 
    It finally being released didn't get rid of any of the issues people were complaining about.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,457
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I doubt very highly that is what he is saying. he was saying that the single should have been decided on and in production before the TOTD tour. 
    Precisely.
    Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,206
    JimmyV said:
    3days said:
    Wow! I feel like the criticisms are really unnecessary at this point. This is becoming nutty.
    How so? A large number of us still have neither the music nor the magazine, including everyone who is digital. This continues to simply be a discussion of why that is. If anything the continued defenses and rationalizations are a bit nutty, to use your word.
    Agreed. I bet every crappy business in the world dreams of having some customers like the 10C has! It would make being incompetent and unreliable to much easier and stress free!
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,348
    I just discovered I can download old fan club singles from 2011 to present! I have lost a few across different machines through the years. This is exciting!! Might whip up a mixtape of singles.
    www.cluthelee.com
  • lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    2-feign-reluctance said:
    I just discovered I can download old fan club singles from 2011 to present! I have lost a few across different machines through the years. This is exciting!! Might whip up a mixtape of singles.


    I just went back and downloaded a few to my PJ 2 TB hard drive last night.

    all PJ all the time. got every live show on there except the 2005 Canadian tour.

    thanks to a friend on here.

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    1996- Charleston, SC

    1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN

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    2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA

    2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)

    2006- Cincinnati, OH

    2008- Columbia, SC

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    2010- Bristow, VA

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    2013- Charlotte, NC

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  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,484
    PJ_Soul said:
    on2legs said:
    Interesting that there were nothing but complaints that it was so late, but now that it's been released we have.... more complaints. 
    It finally being released didn't get rid of any of the issues people were complaining about.
    True... but I was referring to the all new complaints - the “typo”, the song selection, and complaints about Ed mailing it in on the Berry cover. 
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,037
    CLOSE YOUR EYES, GIVE ME YOUR HAND DARLING
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  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,314
    on2legs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    on2legs said:
    Interesting that there were nothing but complaints that it was so late, but now that it's been released we have.... more complaints. 
    It finally being released didn't get rid of any of the issues people were complaining about.
    True... but I was referring to the all new complaints - the “typo”, the song selection, and complaints about Ed mailing it in on the Berry cover. 
    "Complaints" about substance of single have been pretty minimal. The typo is a glaring error, and pretty epic screwup
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,484
    NewJPage said:
    on2legs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    on2legs said:
    Interesting that there were nothing but complaints that it was so late, but now that it's been released we have.... more complaints. 
    It finally being released didn't get rid of any of the issues people were complaining about.
    True... but I was referring to the all new complaints - the “typo”, the song selection, and complaints about Ed mailing it in on the Berry cover. 
    "Complaints" about substance of single have been pretty minimal. The typo is a glaring error, and pretty epic screwup
    You must not be reading the other threads. 
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


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