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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    edited June 2018
    dbl
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    I like how George is backing away from LA now.  Gives me hope that Cleveland is working on something.  

    And yes, Lebron is always the MVP, they just need to make it more interesting.  It's perfectly obvious that he's always the best player on the court when he plays.  Not saying that he always has the best game...
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    tempo_n_groove said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Lebron prob shoulda got MVP. 
    Every year he should get it...

    Do a side by side with Harden and Lebron's numbers.  Lebron had a yuuuuuge year.
    Harden had a much better supporting cast, too.
    Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 25
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    edited June 2018
    Joel Embiid on today's Hot Ones episode:

    Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 25
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,022
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Joel Embiid on today's Hot Ones episode:

    I am so excited to watch this.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    Wobbie said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Wobbie said:
    No Coder said:
    No surprises in the NBA awards , 

    except for ROY going to a guy who wasn’t a rookie :angry:
    Write to the NBA and tell them to change the rules...

    In Baseball when a player gets called up and gets to see MLB pitching but only sees a few games and goes back down he is still eligible for ROY at a later time.

    Stop the hate...

    is 82 “a few games”?

    What 82 games? He was INJURED and didn't step on the court one time. Tempo is referring to players in baseball who actually played a portion of the season before their rookie season. Does that bother you too?


    Why do you care about these dumb awards so much anyway? Mitchell caring about it so much is weird too...

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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    Rookie status in all 4 US professional sports leagues:

    MLB:  A rookie is any player that has not exceeded any more than 130 at-bats or 50 innings pitched AND spent fewer than 45 days on active rosters in previous seasons, excluding time spent on the disabled list or after the September 1 roster expansion.  Ben Simmons would qualify as a rookie by MLB standards.
    NBA: A rookie is any player who has not played in an NBA game prior to that year.  Ben Simmons did qualify by NBA standards.
    NFL: A rookie is any player who is in their first season in the league.  Ben Simmons would not qualify by NFL standards.
    NHL: A rookie is any player that has not played more than 25 games in any previous season AND must be younger than age 26 (the Sergei Makarov Rule).  Furthermore, a player must also not exceed 6 regular season games played in each of previous 2 seasons in ANY professional hockey league.  Ben Simmons would qualify by NHL standards.

    So, in 3 of the 4 major US sports, Ben Simmons still qualified as a rookie this year.  What's the argument?


    Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 25
  • No Coder
    No Coder Brisbane Posts: 1,126
    The Juggler said:
    Wobbie said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Wobbie said:
    No Coder said:
    No surprises in the NBA awards , 

    except for ROY going to a guy who wasn’t a rookie :angry:
    Write to the NBA and tell them to change the rules...

    In Baseball when a player gets called up and gets to see MLB pitching but only sees a few games and goes back down he is still eligible for ROY at a later time.

    Stop the hate...

    is 82 “a few games”?

    What 82 games? He was INJURED and didn't step on the court one time. Tempo is referring to players in baseball who actually played a portion of the season before their rookie season. Does that bother you too?


    Why do you care about these dumb awards so much anyway? Mitchell caring about it so much is weird too...

    I find it hilarious that this has been an issue for a lot of fans. No-one jumped up and down when Blake Griffin won it. Embiid was eligable the previous year, but didn't play enough games to get enough support to win it over Brogdon. Embiid was comfortably the better player and if he played 60+ games, most people would have been in favour of him getting it.

    Don't hate on Simmons for getting the award, as by the rules of the NBA - HE QUALIFIES and WAS THE BEST ROOKIE
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,237
    The Juggler said:
    Wobbie said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Wobbie said:
    No Coder said:
    No surprises in the NBA awards , 

    except for ROY going to a guy who wasn’t a rookie :angry:
    Write to the NBA and tell them to change the rules...

    In Baseball when a player gets called up and gets to see MLB pitching but only sees a few games and goes back down he is still eligible for ROY at a later time.

    Stop the hate...

    is 82 “a few games”?

    What 82 games? He was INJURED and didn't step on the court one time. Tempo is referring to players in baseball who actually played a portion of the season before their rookie season. Does that bother you too?


    Why do you care about these dumb awards so much anyway? Mitchell caring about it so much is weird too...


    you only think I care. you post 3 words for my every 1 when I mention it.  :wink:
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    No Coder said:
    The Juggler said:
    Wobbie said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Wobbie said:
    No Coder said:
    No surprises in the NBA awards , 

    except for ROY going to a guy who wasn’t a rookie :angry:
    Write to the NBA and tell them to change the rules...

    In Baseball when a player gets called up and gets to see MLB pitching but only sees a few games and goes back down he is still eligible for ROY at a later time.

    Stop the hate...

    is 82 “a few games”?

    What 82 games? He was INJURED and didn't step on the court one time. Tempo is referring to players in baseball who actually played a portion of the season before their rookie season. Does that bother you too?


    Why do you care about these dumb awards so much anyway? Mitchell caring about it so much is weird too...

    I find it hilarious that this has been an issue for a lot of fans. No-one jumped up and down when Blake Griffin won it. Embiid was eligable the previous year, but didn't play enough games to get enough support to win it over Brogdon. Embiid was comfortably the better player and if he played 60+ games, most people would have been in favour of him getting it.

    Don't hate on Simmons for getting the award, as by the rules of the NBA - HE QUALIFIES and WAS THE BEST ROOKIE
    Yep.

    So...

    Where does Lebron and Kawhi go?!?
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,227
    tempo_n_groove said:
    No Coder said:
    The Juggler said:
    Wobbie said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Wobbie said:
    No Coder said:
    No surprises in the NBA awards , 

    except for ROY going to a guy who wasn’t a rookie :angry:
    Write to the NBA and tell them to change the rules...

    In Baseball when a player gets called up and gets to see MLB pitching but only sees a few games and goes back down he is still eligible for ROY at a later time.

    Stop the hate...

    is 82 “a few games”?

    What 82 games? He was INJURED and didn't step on the court one time. Tempo is referring to players in baseball who actually played a portion of the season before their rookie season. Does that bother you too?


    Why do you care about these dumb awards so much anyway? Mitchell caring about it so much is weird too...

    I find it hilarious that this has been an issue for a lot of fans. No-one jumped up and down when Blake Griffin won it. Embiid was eligable the previous year, but didn't play enough games to get enough support to win it over Brogdon. Embiid was comfortably the better player and if he played 60+ games, most people would have been in favour of him getting it.

    Don't hate on Simmons for getting the award, as by the rules of the NBA - HE QUALIFIES and WAS THE BEST ROOKIE
    Yep.

    So...

    Where does Lebron and Kawhi go?!?
    A

    I HOPE its not to the Lakers.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Lebron chose not to exercise his option.  I think we all knew that was going to happen regardless.  Now free agency really begins.  
  • markymark550
    markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,214
    tempo_n_groove said:
    No Coder said:
    The Juggler said:
    Wobbie said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Wobbie said:
    No Coder said:
    No surprises in the NBA awards , 

    except for ROY going to a guy who wasn’t a rookie :angry:
    Write to the NBA and tell them to change the rules...

    In Baseball when a player gets called up and gets to see MLB pitching but only sees a few games and goes back down he is still eligible for ROY at a later time.

    Stop the hate...

    is 82 “a few games”?

    What 82 games? He was INJURED and didn't step on the court one time. Tempo is referring to players in baseball who actually played a portion of the season before their rookie season. Does that bother you too?


    Why do you care about these dumb awards so much anyway? Mitchell caring about it so much is weird too...

    I find it hilarious that this has been an issue for a lot of fans. No-one jumped up and down when Blake Griffin won it. Embiid was eligable the previous year, but didn't play enough games to get enough support to win it over Brogdon. Embiid was comfortably the better player and if he played 60+ games, most people would have been in favour of him getting it.

    Don't hate on Simmons for getting the award, as by the rules of the NBA - HE QUALIFIES and WAS THE BEST ROOKIE
    Yep.

    So...

    Where does Lebron and Kawhi go?!?
    If the Lakers can pull of the trade for Kawhi, I think they'll also get LeBron. If not, I think LeBron signs a one-and-one with the Cavs and re-evaluates next year.

    I'm just not sure that San Antonio wants to trade with the Lakers. I mean, take the best offer, but it's better for them to trade him to the Eastern Conference. 
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,227
    markymark550 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    No Coder said:
    The Juggler said:
    Wobbie said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Wobbie said:
    No Coder said:
    No surprises in the NBA awards , 

    except for ROY going to a guy who wasn’t a rookie :angry:
    Write to the NBA and tell them to change the rules...

    In Baseball when a player gets called up and gets to see MLB pitching but only sees a few games and goes back down he is still eligible for ROY at a later time.

    Stop the hate...

    is 82 “a few games”?

    What 82 games? He was INJURED and didn't step on the court one time. Tempo is referring to players in baseball who actually played a portion of the season before their rookie season. Does that bother you too?


    Why do you care about these dumb awards so much anyway? Mitchell caring about it so much is weird too...

    I find it hilarious that this has been an issue for a lot of fans. No-one jumped up and down when Blake Griffin won it. Embiid was eligable the previous year, but didn't play enough games to get enough support to win it over Brogdon. Embiid was comfortably the better player and if he played 60+ games, most people would have been in favour of him getting it.

    Don't hate on Simmons for getting the award, as by the rules of the NBA - HE QUALIFIES and WAS THE BEST ROOKIE
    Yep.

    So...

    Where does Lebron and Kawhi go?!?
    If the Lakers can pull of the trade for Kawhi, I think they'll also get LeBron. If not, I think LeBron signs a one-and-one with the Cavs and re-evaluates next year.

    I'm just not sure that San Antonio wants to trade with the Lakers. I mean, take the best offer, but it's better for them to trade him to the Eastern Conference. 
    That's why the Spurs should not trade Leonard to the Lakers. Like you said: they probably sign LeBron too. The Spurs would basically HELP the Lakers  on ther way to becoming a GREAT team, if they do the trade with Lakers.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    cutz said:
    markymark550 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    No Coder said:
    The Juggler said:
    Wobbie said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Wobbie said:
    No Coder said:
    No surprises in the NBA awards , 

    except for ROY going to a guy who wasn’t a rookie :angry:
    Write to the NBA and tell them to change the rules...

    In Baseball when a player gets called up and gets to see MLB pitching but only sees a few games and goes back down he is still eligible for ROY at a later time.

    Stop the hate...

    is 82 “a few games”?

    What 82 games? He was INJURED and didn't step on the court one time. Tempo is referring to players in baseball who actually played a portion of the season before their rookie season. Does that bother you too?


    Why do you care about these dumb awards so much anyway? Mitchell caring about it so much is weird too...

    I find it hilarious that this has been an issue for a lot of fans. No-one jumped up and down when Blake Griffin won it. Embiid was eligable the previous year, but didn't play enough games to get enough support to win it over Brogdon. Embiid was comfortably the better player and if he played 60+ games, most people would have been in favour of him getting it.

    Don't hate on Simmons for getting the award, as by the rules of the NBA - HE QUALIFIES and WAS THE BEST ROOKIE
    Yep.

    So...

    Where does Lebron and Kawhi go?!?
    If the Lakers can pull of the trade for Kawhi, I think they'll also get LeBron. If not, I think LeBron signs a one-and-one with the Cavs and re-evaluates next year.

    I'm just not sure that San Antonio wants to trade with the Lakers. I mean, take the best offer, but it's better for them to trade him to the Eastern Conference. 
    That's why the Spurs should not trade Leonard to the Lakers. Like you said: they probably sign LeBron too. The Spurs would basically HELP the Lakers  on ther way to becoming a GREAT team, if they do the trade with Lakers.
    Lebron and Leonard together, with the existing Lakers cast, is still the 3rd best team in the West (presuming Paul stays with Houston).  I don't understand why James would sign onto this.  
  • lastexit78
    lastexit78 Posts: 618
    The NBA needs a hard cap and that’s coming from a Warriors fan since the early 90’s. If LeBron, Kawhi and George somehow ended up in LA you would instantly wreck three 50 win teams to create one 60 win team. NBA can’t sustain itself over the long run with only one or two legit title contenders a season. I hate the parity of the NFL & MLB but there has to be a middle ground. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    lastexit78 said:
    The NBA needs a hard cap and that’s coming from a Warriors fan since the early 90’s. If LeBron, Kawhi and George somehow ended up in LA you would instantly wreck three 50 win teams to create one 60 win team. NBA can’t sustain itself over the long run with only one or two legit title contenders a season. I hate the parity of the NFL & MLB but there has to be a middle ground. 
    Or if Lebron goes to Houston.  Might as well contract the league. 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    lastexit78 said:
    The NBA needs a hard cap and that’s coming from a Warriors fan since the early 90’s. If LeBron, Kawhi and George somehow ended up in LA you would instantly wreck three 50 win teams to create one 60 win team. NBA can’t sustain itself over the long run with only one or two legit title contenders a season. I hate the parity of the NFL & MLB but there has to be a middle ground. 
    Not sure why GS gets put into this convo considering they drafted all of their stars sans Durant?
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,237
    Playoff P (5 points in their 2018 elimination game) back to OKC. The un-big three are intact!
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Wobbie said:
    Playoff P (5 points in their 2018 elimination game) back to OKC. The un-big three are intact!
    Wow.  Puts pressure on Lakers to land Kawhi.  

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