Neil Young announces new album. 5th since PJ released Lightning Bolt

NewJPage

The Visitor is coming out Dec. 1. Obviously Neil's pace is one that few artists can match, but this drought from Pearl Jam is pretty crazy. Doesn't even seem like a new album is imminent, they barely tour...what do we make of this? Thoughts?

lolobugg

I like the headline....

and hopefully this new Neil album is as good as Psychedelic Pill or Le Noise.

pjsteelerfan

NewJPage said:

The Visitor is coming out Dec. 1. Obviously Neil's pace is one that few artists can match, but this drought from Pearl Jam is pretty crazy. Doesn't even seem like a new album is imminent, they barely tour...what do we make of this? Thoughts?

I would not make anything of this or read anything into it. 

Zod

You've got the low end of the spectrum and the high end of the spectrum when it comes to output from veteran musicians.   Comparing it to an outlier at the top of the spectrum seems a little unfair.

How does PJ stack up to other Veteran Rock acts (their peers)?   The Rolling Stones, The Who, Foo Fighters, Tool, Guns N' Roses,  Metallica, Tom Petty (he only recent passed so his history still counts), Springsteen, etc....

The answer is PJ outputs less that some, more than others....  Neil is an outlier.. an anomoly.

NewJPage

Zod said:

You've got the low end of the spectrum and the high end of the spectrum when it comes to output from veteran musicians.   Comparing it to an outlier at the top of the spectrum seems a little unfair.

How does PJ stack up to other Veteran Rock acts (their peers)?   The Rolling Stones, The Who, Foo Fighters, Tool, Guns N' Roses,  Metallica, Tom Petty (he only recent passed so his history still counts), Springsteen, etc....

The answer is PJ outputs less that some, more than others....  Neil is an outlier.. an anomoly.

Fair point regarding Neil, although a few of those you mentioned are 10-20+ years older than PJ, so I don't think I'd consider them peers. Actual peers is more like Foo Fighters, and they are far more active

lotsalemon

It's quality over quantity.

RoleModelsinBlood31

Love the thread title

darthvedder

Zod said:

You've got the low end of the spectrum and the high end of the spectrum when it comes to output from veteran musicians.   Comparing it to an outlier at the top of the spectrum seems a little unfair.

How does PJ stack up to other Veteran Rock acts (their peers)?   The Rolling Stones, The Who, Foo Fighters, Tool, Guns N' Roses,  Metallica, Tom Petty (he only recent passed so his history still counts), Springsteen, etc....

The answer is PJ outputs less that some, more than others....  Neil is an outlier.. an anomoly.

They stack up pretty well against Tool. How many Neil albums have been released since 10,000 Days? lol

pdalowsky

so one artist records a lot and the other hasnt. Is that it? Metallica took 6 years didnt they recently? It happens, it'll come when they are good and ready

kramer73

pjsteelerfan said:

NewJPage said:

The Visitor is coming out Dec. 1. Obviously Neil's pace is one that few artists can match, but this drought from Pearl Jam is pretty crazy. Doesn't even seem like a new album is imminent, they barely tour...what do we make of this? Thoughts?

I would not make anything of this or read anything into it. 

People have nothing else to do.  Obviously PJ are done.

Lame thread title, btw.  Go find something to do outside.

eddiec

If you combine their side projects you probably have about the same productivity.
Neil is a solo artist so tough to compare. And he's possibly the most prolific songwriter of all time although he's produced some stinkers the last few years. I love Neil but I watched him perform 'Mother Earth' and that was dreadful. lol

NewJPage

kramer73 said:

pjsteelerfan said:

NewJPage said:

The Visitor is coming out Dec. 1. Obviously Neil's pace is one that few artists can match, but this drought from Pearl Jam is pretty crazy. Doesn't even seem like a new album is imminent, they barely tour...what do we make of this? Thoughts?

I would not make anything of this or read anything into it. 

People have nothing else to do.  Obviously PJ are done.

Lame thread title, btw.  Go find something to do outside.

I have plenty to do, and never stated or implied that PJ are done. I just thought it might be an interesting conversation for some people. PJ used to very very Neilish...push the envelope musically, release music often, tour a lot, etc. Lately they have been more Stonesish...tour less often in larger venues, play it "safer" musically with longer and longer gaps between albums, etc. I'll go outside after I finish teaching my next seminar

lexicondevil

They obviously don't need to do it for the money. So, it's more of an inspiration thing. If they're not feeling the inspiration to hurry up and record an album, then why would they push themselves? They are probably just enjoying their lives with their families, especially after the loss of Chris, which probably reminded them about how short life can be. Also, we don't know what is going on behind the scenes in regards to music that they might be prepping for an album.

PJ_Soul

Yeah, they are under no obligation to put out another album. I would actually rather have no album over having another new one that isn't very good. So if they are indeed short on inspiration and/or the will, I also feel like it's best that they don't force it. I would LOVE it if they released something awesome though!! That would be amazing!

As for Neil Young... I don't think he gives a shit if people like all the albums he puts out now. Most of them are pretty bad, lol. I actually don't mind Neil doing this just because his catalogue is massive so I'm completely satisfied already and am not left wanting more from him. If he wants to throw shit on the wall and see what sticks, I actually think that's kind of humourous and endearing... However, I'm starting to feel a little bit bad for Promise of the Real. I think NY really helped them at first, but at this point I wonder if he's not perhaps weighing them down a bit, given what they've done since The Monsanto Years (which I liked pretty well). Well, at least he is still teaching them stuff.

Kearn5y

pdalowsky said:

so one artist records a lot and the other hasnt. Is that it? Metallica took 6 years didnt they recently? It happens, it'll come when they are good and ready

8 years and the album is a bore. 

whoyouare72

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Love the thread title

LOL

lotsalemon

Maybe fix the thread title - you spelled lightning wrong.

my2hands

Le Noise is better than anything PJ has done in the last 10 years... and it's not even close

Attaway77

Meh... Two completely different genre of music to compare the two (as far as album releases)

NewJPage

lotsalemon said:

Maybe fix the thread title - you spelled lightning wrong.

Whoops! 

EnterThanman

Three points...First is that Neil is a solo musician and needs only to write songs whenever he wants and put it out. PJ is a group of five guys that needs to get together in a concerted effort to work on music, some of whom have young families, so even from that perspective it's not really apples to apples. Secondly, Neil has no filter for quality control, which while I think is really a cool thing, to just put out the music when it's done and not analyze it beyond that, works for pretty much only him.

Third point is that I thought for sure 100% that PJ was calling it a day after those two Wrigley shows, and obviously that's now not the case, so I'm learning to not make anything out of anything