Pearl Jam-fan Danny Masterson accused of serial rape

mickeyrat

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mickeyrat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

The discrepancy to Swedish sentences is big:

"The average sentence in 2013 was 174 months for murder, 90 months for manslaughter and 25 months for rape."

rate of re-offending?

Sexual crimes (Swedish statistics)

No re-offence: 91%
Re-offence within the same group of crimes: 3%
Re-offence to another group of crime: 6%

interesting.

1ThoughtKnown

Wonder if he will be able to keep his membership status in both cults.  He can read his own thread on the Forum 😂.  I’m sure Tom Cruise will visit him in the pen 👍

OnWis97

mickeyrat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mickeyrat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

The discrepancy to Swedish sentences is big:

"The average sentence in 2013 was 174 months for murder, 90 months for manslaughter and 25 months for rape."

rate of re-offending?

Sexual crimes (Swedish statistics)

No re-offence: 91%
Re-offence within the same group of crimes: 3%
Re-offence to another group of crime: 6%

interesting.

I think it has a lot to do with the Swedish prison system's focus on rehab and building skills for after-prison life. This contrasts with America's "three hots and a cot" and the idea that we're not just locking you up but we're making sure you're as miserable as possible while you're locked up.

https://thehorizonsun.com/features/2020/12/18/the-swedish-prison-system/

1ThoughtKnown

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

mickeyrat said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Guy got 30 years. 

I remember listening to him host an hour show on PJ Radio on Sirius about 10 years ago. He mentioned how he had a “good number” because he was an early member of the fan club. 

Obviously the band didn’t know he was a creep, but you think they would have the sense to avoid anyone involved in Scientology. I mean, it’s a cult for chrissakes.

says  a member of this fan club...

Yeah, I’m a member. I usually avoid responding to snide remarks (especially pointless ones), however I will make it more
clear for the rest of the readers of this thread. I meant the band should/would avoid giving “celebrity fan” airtime to a Scientologist, not being a member of the 10c. Any logical person would know it would be impossible to know the religious/cult leanings of every member of the 10c

The joke is that the tenclub is a cult. 

That it is!  

See I missed the joke, because I’ve never understood the “cult fan” thing. It’s not a correct definition for being a fan. Cult is defined as a “misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing”. The key term here is “misplaced”. Being a fan of a rock band is not a misplaced thing in my opinion. It’s a release from the grind of regular life. 

Fanaticism is “filled with excessive and single-minded zeal”. 

There are no negative connotations in being a fan, except that you probably are overzealous. 

Cult is very negative, particularly as it pertains to cult of personality (Living Colour nailed it) or following something that is just
plain whack (Scientology, Jehovah’s Witnesses, drinking the Kool Aid, etc.) 

I get it, you call yourselves “cult” members as a joke, but in reality you are just fanatics. Nothing more, nothing less. It’s all harmless. Cults are harmful. 

Berlin2000

If there was a cult I’d follow, it’s fucking PJ! 

mickeyrat

1ThoughtKnown said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

mickeyrat said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Guy got 30 years. 

I remember listening to him host an hour show on PJ Radio on Sirius about 10 years ago. He mentioned how he had a “good number” because he was an early member of the fan club. 

Obviously the band didn’t know he was a creep, but you think they would have the sense to avoid anyone involved in Scientology. I mean, it’s a cult for chrissakes.

says  a member of this fan club...

Yeah, I’m a member. I usually avoid responding to snide remarks (especially pointless ones), however I will make it more
clear for the rest of the readers of this thread. I meant the band should/would avoid giving “celebrity fan” airtime to a Scientologist, not being a member of the 10c. Any logical person would know it would be impossible to know the religious/cult leanings of every member of the 10c

The joke is that the tenclub is a cult. 

That it is!  

See I missed the joke, because I’ve never understood the “cult fan” thing. It’s not a correct definition for being a fan. Cult is defined as a “misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing”. The key term here is “misplaced”. Being a fan of a rock band is not a misplaced thing in my opinion. It’s a release from the grind of regular life. 

Fanaticism is “filled with excessive and single-minded zeal”. 

There are no negative connotations in being a fan, except that you probably are overzealous. 

Cult is very negative, particularly as it pertains to cult of personality (Living Colour nailed it) or following something that is just
plain whack (Scientology, Jehovah’s Witnesses, drinking the Kool Aid, etc.) 

I get it, you call yourselves “cult” members as a joke, but in reality you are just fanatics. Nothing more, nothing less. It’s all harmless. Cults are harmful. 

you do know fan is short for fanatic , dont you? and can see how fanatic lends it self nicely to cultish behavior? like look at any sports team fanatics. their team can do no wrong etc etc.

its the same for a good chunk of this bands fanatic base. them 5 guys walk on water. ed especially.

1ThoughtKnown

mickeyrat said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

mickeyrat said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Guy got 30 years. 

I remember listening to him host an hour show on PJ Radio on Sirius about 10 years ago. He mentioned how he had a “good number” because he was an early member of the fan club. 

Obviously the band didn’t know he was a creep, but you think they would have the sense to avoid anyone involved in Scientology. I mean, it’s a cult for chrissakes.

says  a member of this fan club...

Yeah, I’m a member. I usually avoid responding to snide remarks (especially pointless ones), however I will make it more
clear for the rest of the readers of this thread. I meant the band should/would avoid giving “celebrity fan” airtime to a Scientologist, not being a member of the 10c. Any logical person would know it would be impossible to know the religious/cult leanings of every member of the 10c

The joke is that the tenclub is a cult. 

That it is!  

See I missed the joke, because I’ve never understood the “cult fan” thing. It’s not a correct definition for being a fan. Cult is defined as a “misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing”. The key term here is “misplaced”. Being a fan of a rock band is not a misplaced thing in my opinion. It’s a release from the grind of regular life. 

Fanaticism is “filled with excessive and single-minded zeal”. 

There are no negative connotations in being a fan, except that you probably are overzealous. 

Cult is very negative, particularly as it pertains to cult of personality (Living Colour nailed it) or following something that is just
plain whack (Scientology, Jehovah’s Witnesses, drinking the Kool Aid, etc.) 

I get it, you call yourselves “cult” members as a joke, but in reality you are just fanatics. Nothing more, nothing less. It’s all harmless. Cults are harmful. 

you do know fan is short for fanatic , dont you? and can see how fanatic lends it self nicely to cultish behavior? like look at any sports team fanatics. their team can do no wrong etc etc.

its the same for a good chunk of this bands fanatic base. them 5 guys walk on water. ed especially.

Have atter. You are in a cult lmao. 

I’m not. 

1ThoughtKnown

Guy got thirty years and his friends from the show wrote letters to the judge for leniency. The letters were dripping with the Scientology bullshit and never intended to be made public.  Now the clowns are backpedaling like a motherfucker, reading some lame apology note obviously written by a lawyer. 

Another classic example of why I never put celebrities on a pedestal. None of them “walk on water”. 

Gern Blansten

I saw that the Masterson accuser was calling out Kushner on her instagram account. Saying that she knows things about him that could possibly get him in trouble.

Crazy shit

HughFreakingDillon

Gern Blansten said:

I saw that the Masterson accuser was calling out Kushner on her instagram account. Saying that she knows things about him that could possibly get him in trouble.

Crazy shit

I unfortunately went down a bit of a rabbit hole on this one, and I think it's about how Kutcher (not Kushner LOL) found his girlfriend murdered, and lied to the police about it. 

as the story goes, he was dating this girl. He showed up at her house one night. He found her dead in a pool of blood. He didn't call police. He called his management team and then Masterson, asking what he should do. In the end, he chose to not report it, as he felt it would damage his career. This murderer ended up being a serial killer, and killed at least 2 other women after his GF. People are speculating the killer could have been caught prior to the other murders had Ashton come clean. But she was discovered the very next day (I believe), so that's doubtful. 

Gern Blansten

HughFreakingDillon said:

Gern Blansten said:

I saw that the Masterson accuser was calling out Kushner on her instagram account. Saying that she knows things about him that could possibly get him in trouble.

Crazy shit

I unfortunately went down a bit of a rabbit hole on this one, and I think it's about how Kutcher (not Kushner LOL) found his girlfriend murdered, and lied to the police about it. 

as the story goes, he was dating this girl. He showed up at her house one night. He found her dead in a pool of blood. He didn't call police. He called his management team and then Masterson, asking what he should do. In the end, he chose to not report it, as he felt it would damage his career. This murderer ended up being a serial killer, and killed at least 2 other women after his GF. People are speculating the killer could have been caught prior to the other murders had Ashton come clean. But she was discovered the very next day (I believe), so that's doubtful. 

Yeah that's what I read...I couldn't remember some of the details. Still potentially damaging to him. Holy shit how could you not call the police?

HughFreakingDillon

only a narcissist does something like that. finds someone dead and thinks of themselves. unreal. 

static111

HughFreakingDillon said:

only a narcissist does something like that. finds someone dead and thinks of themselves. unreal. 

I mean they are already dead and you cant do anything for them at that point and you have potentially the whole world to lose.  I think i could walk.

Spiritual_Chaos

static111 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

only a narcissist does something like that. finds someone dead and thinks of themselves. unreal. 

I mean they are already dead and you cant do anything for them at that point and you have potentially the whole world to lose.  I think i could walk.

Well, at least all of us don’t live in a Kevin Williamson script

Gern Blansten

static111 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

only a narcissist does something like that. finds someone dead and thinks of themselves. unreal. 

I mean they are already dead and you cant do anything for them at that point and you have potentially the whole world to lose.  I think i could walk.

It was his girlfriend. How could you leave someone you likely have strong feelings for behind like that?

Spiritual_Chaos

How could someone leave anyone dead "behind"

HughFreakingDillon

static111 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

only a narcissist does something like that. finds someone dead and thinks of themselves. unreal. 

I mean they are already dead and you cant do anything for them at that point and you have potentially the whole world to lose.  I think i could walk.

yikes. 

1ThoughtKnown

Full victim impact statement written for the judge prior to sentencing:
https://www.thereset.news/p/new-full-victim-impact-statement

static111

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

only a narcissist does something like that. finds someone dead and thinks of themselves. unreal. 

I mean they are already dead and you cant do anything for them at that point and you have potentially the whole world to lose.  I think i could walk.

It was his girlfriend. How could you leave someone you likely have strong feelings for behind like that?

Fear that you could literally lose everything and potentially end up like harrison ford in the fugitive or Tim Robbins in Shawshank Redemption? 

HughFreakingDillon

static111 said:

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

only a narcissist does something like that. finds someone dead and thinks of themselves. unreal. 

I mean they are already dead and you cant do anything for them at that point and you have potentially the whole world to lose.  I think i could walk.

It was his girlfriend. How could you leave someone you likely have strong feelings for behind like that?

Fear that you could literally lose everything and potentially end up like harrison ford in the fugitive or Tim Robbins in Shawshank Redemption? 

movies vs real life. the evidence would have shown he didn't do it.  

Spiritual_Chaos

This is for any normal person a non issue. But, wouldn't it be more of a risk "to leave the scene" than to stay, call, be cleared. With how the boyfriend/husband is the one they obviously look into first.

HughFreakingDillon

Spiritual_Chaos said:

This is for any normal person a non issue. But, wouldn't it be more of a risk "to leave the scene" than to stay, call, be cleared. With how the boyfriend/husband is the one they obviously look into first.

I would think. they found his fingerprints on the door handle. and he claimed at first (apparently) he didn't go in. Why would you grab the door handle if you just grabbed it and left?

josevolution

Damn I never even heard of that story of Kutchner 

josevolution

static111 said:

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

only a narcissist does something like that. finds someone dead and thinks of themselves. unreal. 

I mean they are already dead and you cant do anything for them at that point and you have potentially the whole world to lose.  I think i could walk.

It was his girlfriend. How could you leave someone you likely have strong feelings for behind like that?

Fear that you could literally lose everything and potentially end up like harrison ford in the fugitive or Tim Robbins in Shawshank Redemption? 

What the 1st thing I’d do is call 911 

1ThoughtKnown

josevolution said:

static111 said:

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

only a narcissist does something like that. finds someone dead and thinks of themselves. unreal. 

I mean they are already dead and you cant do anything for them at that point and you have potentially the whole world to lose.  I think i could walk.

It was his girlfriend. How could you leave someone you likely have strong feelings for behind like that?

Fear that you could literally lose everything and potentially end up like harrison ford in the fugitive or Tim Robbins in Shawshank Redemption? 

What the 1st thing I’d do is call 911 

Most people would. But we are talking about a Hollywood degenerate here lol.  Oh, he would have to check with the cult leaders of Scientology first to see what they think is the best way to go. 

1ThoughtKnown

Hahaaaa… these two twats are backpedaling like a mofo. Scientology is for losers… if this doesn’t prove it nothing will. 

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/ashton-kutcher-mila-kunis-danny-masterson-experts-213930058.html

static111

1ThoughtKnown said:

Hahaaaa… these two twats are backpedaling like a mofo. Scientology is for losers… if this doesn’t prove it nothing will. 

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/ashton-kutcher-mila-kunis-danny-masterson-experts-213930058.html

To be fair organized religion is for losers.

1ThoughtKnown

Organized religion is a bit different from cults like Scientology. Having said that, I dont completely disagree. 

I have experienced first hand what damage cultish religions can do…. to be clear I was never involved but it has been in my family 

HughFreakingDillon

Mila and Ashton aren’t scientologists, are they? 

1ThoughtKnown

Perhaps not, but the Scientologist lawyers wrote that “apology”. It’s Hollyweird, you can’t call them cultists… you have to be supportive. Cult religions are full of nut jobs. Scientology has a “Celebrity Center”.  You can’t make this shit up.