Horse racing yay or neigh?

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    You know what happens to the horses if you axe the horse racing industry.  Those horses will be put down.
    most likely sold. 
    I was recently listening to a radio interview and it seems like a lot of horses that are not appropriate or wanted for sport riding end up being auctioned off and killed for meat. I don’t know if ex-racing horses would fit into that category or not. 
    Yes, plenty of ex-race horses - the ones not valued as profitable breeders - end up in dog food and glue.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    PJ_Soul said:
    You know what happens to the horses if you axe the horse racing industry.  Those horses will be put down.
    most likely sold. 
    I was recently listening to a radio interview and it seems like a lot of horses that are not appropriate or wanted for sport riding end up being auctioned off and killed for meat. I don’t know if ex-racing horses would fit into that category or not. 
    Yes, plenty of ex-race horses - the ones not valued as profitable breeders - end up in dog food and glue.
    I've always wondered this, what is the magic part of a horse that helps make glue?
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    PJ_Soul said:
    You know what happens to the horses if you axe the horse racing industry.  Those horses will be put down.
    most likely sold. 
    I was recently listening to a radio interview and it seems like a lot of horses that are not appropriate or wanted for sport riding end up being auctioned off and killed for meat. I don’t know if ex-racing horses would fit into that category or not. 
    Yes, plenty of ex-race horses - the ones not valued as profitable breeders - end up in dog food and glue.
    I've always wondered this, what is the magic part of a horse that helps make glue?
    Most of the animal - hide, bones, cartilage, ligaments, tendons, etc... is boiled for the collagen, a key ingredient in animal-based glue.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,872
    Jello is also made with this, I believe.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,880
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    Totally against.  We went once just because I'd never gone.  While we were at the races, one of the people I was with pulled up some disturbing information on her iPhone about the cruelties to these fine beasts,  Never again!  Will not support this!
    Wow you hang with some awesome people!!
    That was a weird response, by the way, Cincy.  :lol:
    Someone that voluntarily goes to horse races to look up and deliver all the bad details to people at the race is a jerk. Shoulda done that before going.  Buzzkill! 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    edited November 2018
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    Totally against.  We went once just because I'd never gone.  While we were at the races, one of the people I was with pulled up some disturbing information on her iPhone about the cruelties to these fine beasts,  Never again!  Will not support this!
    Wow you hang with some awesome people!!
    That was a weird response, by the way, Cincy.  :lol:
    Someone that voluntarily goes to horse races to look up and deliver all the bad details to people at the race is a jerk. Shoulda done that before going.  Buzzkill! 
    Look, to me you're stepping over a line here, Cincy.  First of all, please back off on the personal shit.  Secondly, the person you just called a jerk is one of the most important people in my life so, please, stuff it.  Thirdly, you're way off base saying something here that isn't true because the person that looked up that information at the track did so because, being a good observer by nature, she didn't like some of the things she was seeing going on.  She had never been to a horse race and had no idea what it was all about.  Having that digital device on hand,  she decided to do some quick research about what she was observing.  She was very discrete about telling me what she learned.  She did not go with the intent to be a "buzz kill".  She did not "voluntarily goes to horse races to look up and deliver all the bad details to people at the race". 

    :anguished: 

    Post edited by brianlux on
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    It's an event for people pretend they are bourgeoisie for a day. Dress up, get drunk, act like idiots.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    You know what happens to the horses if you axe the horse racing industry.  Those horses will be put down.
    most likely sold. 
    Most were put down or sold for food from what little info was available in Ontario when the horse racing industry virtually collapsed once the government started pulling the slot machines from raceways.  These slot machines kept the horse racing industry afloat in many places.  
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,880
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    Totally against.  We went once just because I'd never gone.  While we were at the races, one of the people I was with pulled up some disturbing information on her iPhone about the cruelties to these fine beasts,  Never again!  Will not support this!
    Wow you hang with some awesome people!!
    That was a weird response, by the way, Cincy.  :lol:
    Someone that voluntarily goes to horse races to look up and deliver all the bad details to people at the race is a jerk. Shoulda done that before going.  Buzzkill! 
    Look, to me you're stepping over a line here, Cincy.  First of all, please back off on the personal shit.  Secondly, the person you just called a jerk is one of the most important people in my life so, please, stuff it.  Thirdly, you're way off base saying something here that isn't true because the person that looked up that information at the track did so because, being a good observer by nature, she didn't like some of the things she was seeing going on.  She had never been to a horse race and had no idea what it was all about.  Having that digital device on hand,  she decided to do some quick research about what she was observing.  She was very discrete about telling me what she learned.  She did not go with the intent to be a "buzz kill".  She did not "voluntarily goes to horse races to look up and deliver all the bad details to people at the race". 

    :anguished: 

    Did she go to the horse race voluntarily?
    fif she look up negative details about the race before or at the race?
    did she tell other st the race about what she was reading?
    kinda a buzzkill. But hey - that is just my opinion and maybe the people with her like doing that sort of thing. 

    Though I’ll apologize for the “jerk”, cause we all do jerk things from time to time. So I still think it’s a jerk move. I do that too often, mean “jerk move” and say “jerk”.



    hippiemom = goodness
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    Totally against.  We went once just because I'd never gone.  While we were at the races, one of the people I was with pulled up some disturbing information on her iPhone about the cruelties to these fine beasts,  Never again!  Will not support this!
    Wow you hang with some awesome people!!
    That was a weird response, by the way, Cincy.  :lol:
    Someone that voluntarily goes to horse races to look up and deliver all the bad details to people at the race is a jerk. Shoulda done that before going.  Buzzkill! 
    Look, to me you're stepping over a line here, Cincy.  First of all, please back off on the personal shit.  Secondly, the person you just called a jerk is one of the most important people in my life so, please, stuff it.  Thirdly, you're way off base saying something here that isn't true because the person that looked up that information at the track did so because, being a good observer by nature, she didn't like some of the things she was seeing going on.  She had never been to a horse race and had no idea what it was all about.  Having that digital device on hand,  she decided to do some quick research about what she was observing.  She was very discrete about telling me what she learned.  She did not go with the intent to be a "buzz kill".  She did not "voluntarily goes to horse races to look up and deliver all the bad details to people at the race". 

    :anguished: 

    Did she go to the horse race voluntarily?
    fif she look up negative details about the race before or at the race?
    did she tell other st the race about what she was reading?
    kinda a buzzkill. But hey - that is just my opinion and maybe the people with her like doing that sort of thing. 

    Though I’ll apologize for the “jerk”, cause we all do jerk things from time to time. So I still think it’s a jerk move. I do that too often, mean “jerk move” and say “jerk”.



    That a loaded apology.  But whatever.  I'm moving on.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,880
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    Totally against.  We went once just because I'd never gone.  While we were at the races, one of the people I was with pulled up some disturbing information on her iPhone about the cruelties to these fine beasts,  Never again!  Will not support this!
    Wow you hang with some awesome people!!
    That was a weird response, by the way, Cincy.  :lol:
    Someone that voluntarily goes to horse races to look up and deliver all the bad details to people at the race is a jerk. Shoulda done that before going.  Buzzkill! 
    Look, to me you're stepping over a line here, Cincy.  First of all, please back off on the personal shit.  Secondly, the person you just called a jerk is one of the most important people in my life so, please, stuff it.  Thirdly, you're way off base saying something here that isn't true because the person that looked up that information at the track did so because, being a good observer by nature, she didn't like some of the things she was seeing going on.  She had never been to a horse race and had no idea what it was all about.  Having that digital device on hand,  she decided to do some quick research about what she was observing.  She was very discrete about telling me what she learned.  She did not go with the intent to be a "buzz kill".  She did not "voluntarily goes to horse races to look up and deliver all the bad details to people at the race". 

    :anguished: 

    Did she go to the horse race voluntarily?
    fif she look up negative details about the race before or at the race?
    did she tell other st the race about what she was reading?
    kinda a buzzkill. But hey - that is just my opinion and maybe the people with her like doing that sort of thing. 

    Though I’ll apologize for the “jerk”, cause we all do jerk things from time to time. So I still think it’s a jerk move. I do that too often, mean “jerk move” and say “jerk”.



    That a loaded apology.  But whatever.  I'm moving on.


    Whatever Brian / I think you are taking this just a smidge more harsh then you should. 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    Totally against.  We went once just because I'd never gone.  While we were at the races, one of the people I was with pulled up some disturbing information on her iPhone about the cruelties to these fine beasts,  Never again!  Will not support this!
    Wow you hang with some awesome people!!
    That was a weird response, by the way, Cincy.  :lol:
    Someone that voluntarily goes to horse races to look up and deliver all the bad details to people at the race is a jerk. Shoulda done that before going.  Buzzkill! 
    Look, to me you're stepping over a line here, Cincy.  First of all, please back off on the personal shit.  Secondly, the person you just called a jerk is one of the most important people in my life so, please, stuff it.  Thirdly, you're way off base saying something here that isn't true because the person that looked up that information at the track did so because, being a good observer by nature, she didn't like some of the things she was seeing going on.  She had never been to a horse race and had no idea what it was all about.  Having that digital device on hand,  she decided to do some quick research about what she was observing.  She was very discrete about telling me what she learned.  She did not go with the intent to be a "buzz kill".  She did not "voluntarily goes to horse races to look up and deliver all the bad details to people at the race". 

    :anguished: 

    Did she go to the horse race voluntarily?
    fif she look up negative details about the race before or at the race?
    did she tell other st the race about what she was reading?
    kinda a buzzkill. But hey - that is just my opinion and maybe the people with her like doing that sort of thing. 

    Though I’ll apologize for the “jerk”, cause we all do jerk things from time to time. So I still think it’s a jerk move. I do that too often, mean “jerk move” and say “jerk”.



    That a loaded apology.  But whatever.  I'm moving on.


    Whatever Brian / I think you are taking this just a smidge more harsh then you should. 
    Maybe, sorry man.  I'm a fierce defender of people I love and respect.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    Totally against.  We went once just because I'd never gone.  While we were at the races, one of the people I was with pulled up some disturbing information on her iPhone about the cruelties to these fine beasts,  Never again!  Will not support this!
    Wow you hang with some awesome people!!
    That was a weird response, by the way, Cincy.  :lol:
    Someone that voluntarily goes to horse races to look up and deliver all the bad details to people at the race is a jerk. Shoulda done that before going.  Buzzkill! 
    Look, to me you're stepping over a line here, Cincy.  First of all, please back off on the personal shit.  Secondly, the person you just called a jerk is one of the most important people in my life so, please, stuff it.  Thirdly, you're way off base saying something here that isn't true because the person that looked up that information at the track did so because, being a good observer by nature, she didn't like some of the things she was seeing going on.  She had never been to a horse race and had no idea what it was all about.  Having that digital device on hand,  she decided to do some quick research about what she was observing.  She was very discrete about telling me what she learned.  She did not go with the intent to be a "buzz kill".  She did not "voluntarily goes to horse races to look up and deliver all the bad details to people at the race". 

    :anguished: 

    Did she go to the horse race voluntarily?
    fif she look up negative details about the race before or at the race?
    did she tell other st the race about what she was reading?
    kinda a buzzkill. But hey - that is just my opinion and maybe the people with her like doing that sort of thing. 

    Though I’ll apologize for the “jerk”, cause we all do jerk things from time to time. So I still think it’s a jerk move. I do that too often, mean “jerk move” and say “jerk”.



    That a loaded apology.  But whatever.  I'm moving on.


    Whatever Brian / I think you are taking this just a smidge more harsh then you should. 
    Maybe, sorry man.  I'm a fierce defender of people I love and respect.
    I don’t know why you’re apologizing, Brian. You weren’t the one making the rude comments. 
     
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    Totally against.  We went once just because I'd never gone.  While we were at the races, one of the people I was with pulled up some disturbing information on her iPhone about the cruelties to these fine beasts,  Never again!  Will not support this!
    Wow you hang with some awesome people!!
    That was a weird response, by the way, Cincy.  :lol:
    Someone that voluntarily goes to horse races to look up and deliver all the bad details to people at the race is a jerk. Shoulda done that before going.  Buzzkill! 
    Look, to me you're stepping over a line here, Cincy.  First of all, please back off on the personal shit.  Secondly, the person you just called a jerk is one of the most important people in my life so, please, stuff it.  Thirdly, you're way off base saying something here that isn't true because the person that looked up that information at the track did so because, being a good observer by nature, she didn't like some of the things she was seeing going on.  She had never been to a horse race and had no idea what it was all about.  Having that digital device on hand,  she decided to do some quick research about what she was observing.  She was very discrete about telling me what she learned.  She did not go with the intent to be a "buzz kill".  She did not "voluntarily goes to horse races to look up and deliver all the bad details to people at the race". 

    :anguished: 

    Did she go to the horse race voluntarily?
    fif she look up negative details about the race before or at the race?
    did she tell other st the race about what she was reading?
    kinda a buzzkill. But hey - that is just my opinion and maybe the people with her like doing that sort of thing. 

    Though I’ll apologize for the “jerk”, cause we all do jerk things from time to time. So I still think it’s a jerk move. I do that too often, mean “jerk move” and say “jerk”.



    That a loaded apology.  But whatever.  I'm moving on.


    Whatever Brian / I think you are taking this just a smidge more harsh then you should. 
    Maybe, sorry man.  I'm a fierce defender of people I love and respect.
    I don’t know why you’re apologizing, Brian. You weren’t the one making the rude comments. 
     
    Just trying to keep the peace.  I do tend to over-react to things sometimes.  A friend of mine once said, "We all have our fatal character flaws", lol.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    Totally against.  We went once just because I'd never gone.  While we were at the races, one of the people I was with pulled up some disturbing information on her iPhone about the cruelties to these fine beasts,  Never again!  Will not support this!
    Wow you hang with some awesome people!!
    That was a weird response, by the way, Cincy.  :lol:
    Someone that voluntarily goes to horse races to look up and deliver all the bad details to people at the race is a jerk. Shoulda done that before going.  Buzzkill! 
    Look, to me you're stepping over a line here, Cincy.  First of all, please back off on the personal shit.  Secondly, the person you just called a jerk is one of the most important people in my life so, please, stuff it.  Thirdly, you're way off base saying something here that isn't true because the person that looked up that information at the track did so because, being a good observer by nature, she didn't like some of the things she was seeing going on.  She had never been to a horse race and had no idea what it was all about.  Having that digital device on hand,  she decided to do some quick research about what she was observing.  She was very discrete about telling me what she learned.  She did not go with the intent to be a "buzz kill".  She did not "voluntarily goes to horse races to look up and deliver all the bad details to people at the race". 

    :anguished: 

    Did she go to the horse race voluntarily?
    fif she look up negative details about the race before or at the race?
    did she tell other st the race about what she was reading?
    kinda a buzzkill. But hey - that is just my opinion and maybe the people with her like doing that sort of thing. 

    Though I’ll apologize for the “jerk”, cause we all do jerk things from time to time. So I still think it’s a jerk move. I do that too often, mean “jerk move” and say “jerk”.



    That a loaded apology.  But whatever.  I'm moving on.


    Whatever Brian / I think you are taking this just a smidge more harsh then you should. 
    Maybe, sorry man.  I'm a fierce defender of people I love and respect.
    I don’t know why you’re apologizing, Brian. You weren’t the one making the rude comments. 
     
    Just trying to keep the peace.  I do tend to over-react to things sometimes.  A friend of mine once said, "We all have our fatal character flaws", lol.
    Same jerk or a different one? 

    KIDDING!! 

    :fearful:
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited November 2018
    Jello is also made with this, I believe.
    Yes, anything with gelatin. So gummy candies too, and many other desserts, etc. But gelatin is normally made of cow and pig parts, not horse. They don't put horse meat in human food generally, in north America. Most people aren't willing to eat horse in the Western world.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177

    Why don't we eat horses?

    In the United States, United Kingdom and some other nations, horse meat is largely reviled. Asked to explain why she would not eat horse meat, New York City resident Victoria Milton compared them to pets, saying that "people have horses and they love them and they're part of their family."

    In many other nations, however, eating horse meat is no big deal - and in some cultures, it's even considered a delicacy. Mexico, Switzerland, Kazakhstan, Belgium, Japan, Germany, Indonesia, Poland and China are among the nations where many people eat horse meat without a second thought.

    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited November 2018
    jeffbr said:

    Why don't we eat horses?

    In the United States, United Kingdom and some other nations, horse meat is largely reviled. Asked to explain why she would not eat horse meat, New York City resident Victoria Milton compared them to pets, saying that "people have horses and they love them and they're part of their family."

    In many other nations, however, eating horse meat is no big deal - and in some cultures, it's even considered a delicacy. Mexico, Switzerland, Kazakhstan, Belgium, Japan, Germany, Indonesia, Poland and China are among the nations where many people eat horse meat without a second thought.

    It wouldn't be so bad if the horses were treated the way they need to be treated to live decent lives. But they are obviously horribly neglected and mistreated in the meat market, even under the best conditions. Of course, that can be said of most animals under us in the food chain... It's just that our emotions are more sensitive when it comes to animals we consider pets/companions. Yes, it's hypocritical, but it still makes sense.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    PJ_Soul said:
    jeffbr said:

    Why don't we eat horses?

    In the United States, United Kingdom and some other nations, horse meat is largely reviled. Asked to explain why she would not eat horse meat, New York City resident Victoria Milton compared them to pets, saying that "people have horses and they love them and they're part of their family."

    In many other nations, however, eating horse meat is no big deal - and in some cultures, it's even considered a delicacy. Mexico, Switzerland, Kazakhstan, Belgium, Japan, Germany, Indonesia, Poland and China are among the nations where many people eat horse meat without a second thought.

    It wouldn't be so bad if the horses were treated the way they need to be treated to live decent lives. But they are obviously horribly neglected and mistreated in the meat market, even under the best conditions. Of course, that can be said of most animals under us in the food chain... It's just that our emotions are more sensitive when it comes to animals we consider pets/companions. Yes, it's hypocritical, but it still makes sense.
    I agree. It is hypocritical and hard to explain, but that is the way it is. While I'm sure horse is a perfectly acceptable type of meat for some people, I have no interest in it because of the pet/companion aspect. I don't care to eat dogs or cats either, for the same reason.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    Bunnies are delicious.
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