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Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Posts: 15,165
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Neigh.
Spring carnival here in my home town.
It's all about horses, betting, fashion.
I hate this time of the year. Why do humans think it is okay to exploit horses for profit?
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,085
    We eat them, so I guess watching them run around a track isn’t so bad when compared to the fate of a pig or cow.  
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Posts: 15,165
    I mean to hurt a horse by whipping it to make it run faster doesn't sit well with me.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,085
    Take a field trip to a slaughter house and it will look like patty cake. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,020
    Some like to be ridden and whipped. And made to run fast. Is it the outfits?
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    my band played at a horse track a few years ago. we were the entertainment playing music in between the races. it is a pretty big deal around here and that was considered a "great" gig to have.

    during the first race a horse broke down and had to be euthanized essentially right in front of us. i felt awful after that. we had been booked to play there 5 or 6 times that summer. it was the first time we played there. we canceled the remaining shows because i did not feel right making money off of these animals that literally risk their lives every time they enter the gates.

    i hate horse racing.
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  • ShynerShyner Posts: 1,226
    If horses could run without jockeys it would be humane
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    Shyner said:
    If horses could run without jockeys it would be humane
    I think they would just stand around and eat, then. Like the rest of us. 
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  • ShynerShyner Posts: 1,226
    Freedom for horses act 2017
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Posts: 15,165
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    my band played at a horse track a few years ago. we were the entertainment playing music in between the races. it is a pretty big deal around here and that was considered a "great" gig to have.

    during the first race a horse broke down and had to be euthanized essentially right in front of us. i felt awful after that. we had been booked to play there 5 or 6 times that summer. it was the first time we played there. we canceled the remaining shows because i did not feel right making money off of these animals that literally risk their lives every time they enter the gates.

    i hate horse racing.
    yeah, it is common here that a horse or two get put down due to injuries.
    We also have jumps racing which has higher death rates.
    It sickens me that people don't care about the horses, it's all about winning on bets, dressing up in fashion, getting drunk.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Go Beavers said:
    Take a field trip to a slaughter house and it will look like patty cake. 
    Not really, slaughter is a short process that ends definitively.
    That's nothing compared to being whipped and run half to death over and over and over.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    Neigh.
    Spring carnival here in my home town.
    It's all about horses, betting, fashion.
    I hate this time of the year. Why do humans think it is okay to exploit horses for profit?
    dont forget drinking! what the lyric, "haves be havin more, yet still bored"
    money power makes people do crazy things. to make matters worse, casinos have adjoined some race tracks resulting in increases purses resulting in more cheating/doping. its a horrible situation and its not limited to horses (greyhounds, even dogsledding!) i know alittle bit about the horse racing business and it isnt pretty. like anything else money has ruined, it has to get really bad before corrective action is taken. if you do a search this topic has been discussed before, might not want to look it up thou, horrible videos.
    on a positive note there are some organizations that are making some in-roads, the one Im involved with makes it mandatory for race horse owners to contribute to a fund (per race entry) that helps horses de-stress and enjoy life after racing on the farm. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,976
    I think it's stupid. how is racing an animal a sport that gets credited to the guy essentially holding on for dear life? seinfeld had a great bit on this in his "I'm Telling You For The Last Time" dvd. I'm paraphrasing:

    "I think if horses knew that if they tripped during the race they'd get their brains blown out, the race would be quite different". 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    I enjoy horse racing and dog racing.

    I would think that cock fighting and dog fighting are inhumane.  
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    i love Horse Racing and it's Breeders Cup weekend this weekend so the best of the best are at Del Mar Friday and Saturday.  Will definitely make some nice bets this weekend.  bring it on.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
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    Neigh. I don't put it in the same category as some of the many other ways we exploit animals - it's much better than most such things - but it's still bad enough for me to personally boycott it as a form of entertainment, though I don't judge those who enjoy it (as I would those who enjoy, say, bullfighting or something), and I don't put it in the same category of anything that involves the exploitation of wild animals either. I have attended horse races in the past, which is why I know I'm a neigh. That doesn't mean I didn't think it was fun at the time. I did. It was really fun, especially since I once won 7 out of 8 races - it was crazy. That doesn't change my final decision on the matter though. FWIW, for full disclosure, I put equestrian in yet another category. I don't feel that is as bad, knowing what I do about the differences in care, physical consequences for the horses, how the industries are run, etc. I don't find the two sports comparable (and I do know enough about both to judge I think).
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    Neigh to horse and dog racing.
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  • KC138045KC138045 Posts: 2,716
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-EStdvjd_8
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Posts: 15,165
    KC138045 said:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-EStdvjd_8
    That is brilliant hahaha
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,055
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0nCnS-UJLs
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    I had never gone so last year my wife and sister and I went to Golden Gate Fields in Berkeley to see some races.  At first it was kind of fun but we went down to get a closer look at the horses,  I noticed that these beautiful animals did not look very content  (If you love animals, it's pretty easy to ready their moods).  We went back into the grandstands and my sister started pulling up all this information on her iPhone about the realities of horse racing.  I did some research on my own at home later and am now totally against this "sport".    I've heard racing enthusiasts defend horse racing to no end but I won't get into any arguments over it.  I've heard all the defenses and none of them hold any water for me.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    KC138045 said:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-EStdvjd_8
    That is brilliant hahaha
    :rofl:
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Posts: 15,165
    eeriepadave said:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0nCnS-UJLs
    hehehe
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    I feel like it ought to be a pretty general rule in a civilized society that any task which requires whipping flesh to complete is a task which is better left undone.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    rgambs said:
    I feel like it ought to be a pretty general rule in a civilized society that any task which requires whipping flesh to complete is a task which is better left undone.
    Well said, Gambs!  I totally agree with maybe one exception:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U5d7X7sE4k

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  • rhanishanerhanishane Posts: 505
    and then what happened in the Melbourne cup.... cliffsofmoher shatters his shoulder at 600m and is euthanized on the track. footage is deliberately cut from the race. I saw it later, the poor thing was trying to slow down on 3 legs.
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    You know what happens to the horses if you axe the horse racing industry.  Those horses will be put down.
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    Love the triple crown.  It's been great to have a couple recent triple crown.  
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,445
    I feel bad. I have gone and watch the big races (usually only 1 a year in tv)..,but I’m torn on this still. 

    And dog races, I’ve gone and I love and yes I’m torn too.
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  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    neigh.  elitist.  cruel.
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