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  • And, speaking as a woman -- a woman who wore her "Pussy Grabs Back" shirt today 
    And how did that go for you today, where did you wear it?
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Don't engage it curmudgeylady, not worth your time!
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,535
    JimmyV said:
    On the left we have a party supported by a sleazy industry. On the right we have a party that happily voted the sleaziest of men into the highest office in the land. As always there is plenty of hypocrisy on both sides.
    Since Weinstein isn't President, I'm thinking one side has more hypocrisy than the other.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,594
    edited October 2017
    JimmyV said:
    On the left we have a party supported by a sleazy industry. On the right we have a party that happily voted the sleaziest of men into the highest office in the land. As always there is plenty of hypocrisy on both sides.
    Since Weinstein isn't President, I'm thinking one side has more hypocrisy than the other.

    Sure, but "Their hypocrisy is worse than our hypocrisy!" isn't a very inspiring message when you are trying to lure Independents and get to 270.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    JimmyV said:
    JimmyV said:
    On the left we have a party supported by a sleazy industry. On the right we have a party that happily voted the sleaziest of men into the highest office in the land. As always there is plenty of hypocrisy on both sides.
    Since Weinstein isn't President, I'm thinking one side has more hypocrisy than the other.

    Sure, but "Their hypocrisy is worse than our hypocrisy!" isn't a very inspiring message when your trying to lure Independents and get to 270.
    If an independent has to be lured away from Trump, they aren't an independent, they are an idiot.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,803
    rgambs said:
    JimmyV said:
    JimmyV said:
    On the left we have a party supported by a sleazy industry. On the right we have a party that happily voted the sleaziest of men into the highest office in the land. As always there is plenty of hypocrisy on both sides.
    Since Weinstein isn't President, I'm thinking one side has more hypocrisy than the other.

    Sure, but "Their hypocrisy is worse than our hypocrisy!" isn't a very inspiring message when your trying to lure Independents and get to 270.
    If an independent has to be lured away from Trump, they aren't an independent, they are an idiot.
    But you do have to give them a reason to go and vote.  If voting against Trump worked, it would have worked in the Republican primary...or the general election.  But it didn't.  SO you have to energize those that don't vote to go and vote FOR something.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,594
    rgambs said:
    JimmyV said:
    JimmyV said:
    On the left we have a party supported by a sleazy industry. On the right we have a party that happily voted the sleaziest of men into the highest office in the land. As always there is plenty of hypocrisy on both sides.
    Since Weinstein isn't President, I'm thinking one side has more hypocrisy than the other.

    Sure, but "Their hypocrisy is worse than our hypocrisy!" isn't a very inspiring message when your trying to lure Independents and get to 270.
    If an independent has to be lured away from Trump, they aren't an independent, they are an idiot.

    The problem wasn't independents voting for Trump. The problem was independents and others voting third party or not voting at all. A pissing contest over which major party is more hypocritical is a great way to encourage more of the same in the future.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    JimmyV said:
    rgambs said:
    JimmyV said:
    JimmyV said:
    On the left we have a party supported by a sleazy industry. On the right we have a party that happily voted the sleaziest of men into the highest office in the land. As always there is plenty of hypocrisy on both sides.
    Since Weinstein isn't President, I'm thinking one side has more hypocrisy than the other.

    Sure, but "Their hypocrisy is worse than our hypocrisy!" isn't a very inspiring message when your trying to lure Independents and get to 270.
    If an independent has to be lured away from Trump, they aren't an independent, they are an idiot.

    The problem wasn't independents voting for Trump. The problem was independents and others voting third party or not voting at all. A pissing contest over which major party is more hypocritical is a great way to encourage more of the same in the future.
    Sorry, I just don't buy that.
    If one stands by and lets Trump get elected because his/her panties are twisted about some boo dee hoo "lesser of evils is still evil" bullshit, he/she is an idiot.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    JimmyV said:
    On the left we have a party supported by a sleazy industry. On the right we have a party that happily voted the sleaziest of men into the highest office in the land. As always there is plenty of hypocrisy on both sides.
    Not even close to the same thing. 
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,594
    I'm betting that in the history of elections, calling people idiots has never won over a single idiot's vote.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,288
    JimmyV said:
    rgambs said:
    JimmyV said:
    JimmyV said:
    On the left we have a party supported by a sleazy industry. On the right we have a party that happily voted the sleaziest of men into the highest office in the land. As always there is plenty of hypocrisy on both sides.
    Since Weinstein isn't President, I'm thinking one side has more hypocrisy than the other.

    Sure, but "Their hypocrisy is worse than our hypocrisy!" isn't a very inspiring message when your trying to lure Independents and get to 270.
    If an independent has to be lured away from Trump, they aren't an independent, they are an idiot.

    The problem wasn't independents voting for Trump. The problem was independents and others voting third party or not voting at all. A pissing contest over which major party is more hypocritical is a great way to encourage more of the same in the future.
    I believe many people were under the illusion that Hillary had it in the bag based on the polls and didn't vote. Same thing happened with Brexit.  
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    maybe Streep knew, maybe she didn't. but heresay isn't something to gauge your career on. I have worked with loads of people who you think are creeps in their personal life, and possibly their professional life, but until you get some sort of proof, or at least a public accusation, I don't blame anyone for just keeping on keeping on. are people going to stop accepting movie roles because they heard a rumour?

    for the record, Meryl Streep and her grandstanding make my skin crawl. 
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    JimmyV said:
    I'm betting that in the history of elections, calling people idiots has never won over a single idiot's vote.
    I'm sure you are right.
    They are still idiots.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,395
    It is odd and quite disappointing that both Clinton and Obama have remained silent on Weinstein. As much as people get on Trump for not calling bullshit when he should, this is really not much different considering their long standing relationship and ties to him.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    JimmyV said:
    I'm betting that in the history of elections, calling people idiots has never won over a single idiot's vote.


    really, not even Trump voters who voted for the man because of his bluster?  that's what they love about him.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,594
    pjhawks said:
    JimmyV said:
    I'm betting that in the history of elections, calling people idiots has never won over a single idiot's vote.


    really, not even Trump voters who voted for the man because of his bluster?  that's what they love about him.

    Haha...true. Although he didn't call THEM idiots.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    tbergs said:
    It is odd and quite disappointing that both Clinton and Obama have remained silent on Weinstein. As much as people get on Trump for not calling bullshit when he should, this is really not much different considering their long standing relationship and ties to him.
    1) clinton and obama are no longer in public office
    2) the weinstein situation isn't a natural disaster that requires leadership
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,535
    JimmyV said:
    JimmyV said:
    On the left we have a party supported by a sleazy industry. On the right we have a party that happily voted the sleaziest of men into the highest office in the land. As always there is plenty of hypocrisy on both sides.
    Since Weinstein isn't President, I'm thinking one side has more hypocrisy than the other.

    Sure, but "Their hypocrisy is worse than our hypocrisy!" isn't a very inspiring message when you are trying to lure Independents and get to 270.
    Anyone dim enough to be factoring a movie producer's behavior into their presidential vote is most likely already voting for trump. That this is getting tied to liberal politics is only the result of right wing media trying to fabricate a liberal hypocrisy narrative.  
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,395
    tbergs said:
    It is odd and quite disappointing that both Clinton and Obama have remained silent on Weinstein. As much as people get on Trump for not calling bullshit when he should, this is really not much different considering their long standing relationship and ties to him.
    1) clinton and obama are no longer in public office
    2) the weinstein situation isn't a natural disaster that requires leadership
    I understand that. Hillary speaks out about plenty of other things and they're both still widely followed and respected public figures who had strong ties to him. It wouldn't be unusual, especially since they've been reached out to by media.
    It's a hopeless situation...