Better get your God on and not just any God, Team Trump Treason's God.
What a 'Nation of
faith' looks like
The 161st
session of the Southern Baptist Convention assembled
this week in Dallas, Texas. The Convention includes more than 47,000 churches
ministering to more than 15 million people, and its houses of worship can be
found in all 50 states and in communities of every size.
Vice
President Mike Pence addressed the Convention yesterday.
"You know, the President likes to say, in his words, that we're a Nation
of faith," the Vice President said. "The truth is, Southern Baptists
have always worked to bring about renewal of America, and new beginnings. And
as I stand before you today, I believe that our Nation is in the midst of a
time of renewal."
The real
source of America's greatness, he reiterated, is in the work
of its people. "The truth is no podium that President Trump and I will
ever stand behind will be of greater consequence than the pulpits you stand
behind every Sunday morning. No policy we enact will ever be more meaningful
than the ministries you lead. And no action we take will ever be more powerful
than your prayers."
I have read that Pence did not get a wholly positive (holy positive?) reaction at the convention. Some prominent people apparently spoke against the administration, and in fact there was a strong movement to disinvite him - just not quite strong enough.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
Pence is getting ripped in all sorts of religious publications. His speech should have been about the Word, Faith and the Gospel, not a MAGA cheer leading event.
From the American Conservative...
Politicians on both sides speak to national church gatherings all the time. You know that, right? It’s not unusual for the Southern Baptist Convention to have invited Vice President Mike Pence to address their annual meeting today.
Some Baptists said in advance that it was a bad idea. For one, the role of Robert Jeffress, pastor of First Baptist Dallas, one of the biggest and most powerful church in the SBC, as a chief spiritual adviser for Donald Trump has been controversial within church circles. Many younger Southern Baptists — conservatives, not liberals — are tired of the denomination’s close association with the Republican Party. Plus, Trump’s history of treating women crudely does not sit well with many in the SBC, which has been stricken by a sex abuse scandal that has taken out its most accomplished conservative leader, Paige Patterson. (N.B., Patterson was not personally accused of abuse, but of handling it very badly.)
Nevertheless, Pence came. This would have been a perfect occasion for the vice president to deliver a policy speech on the importance of protecting religious liberty — an issue that matters to Southern Baptists more than just about anybody.
Nope. Most of the speech — which you can watch here — was pure political #MAGA. “Under President Donald Trump, America is back, and we’re just getting started!” he said, in a typical line.
When Pence did bring up religious liberty, he spoke passionately about how the administration is dedicated to getting rid of the Johnson Amendment, a provision of the tax code forbidding non-profit organizations from endorsing or opposing particular candidates.
“We will not rest until it is repealed!” Pence thundered. The tepid applause indicates how low on the priority list the Johnson Amendment is for most Christians, even those who are really engaged on the religious liberty issue. It only really matters to the machers of Conservative Christianity, Inc.
Pence mentioned abortion and persecuted Christians abroad, but explicitly in context of how Christians have never had it so good as they do under Trump. It was a repulsive speech, quite frankly, despite some good non-political material at the end, added almost as an afterthought.
The Southern Baptists are not theologically liberal, mind you. For Southern Baptists hoping to escape their “Republican Party At Prayer” image, and refocus their denomination on religious mission, the Pence speech was a huge setback.
I know the SBC has welcomed politicians on occasion going back 45 years, but has there ever been a full-blown campaign speech like this one? #SBC18#SBCAM18
Reminds me of that insane Boy Scouts of America speech Trump gave a while back. Just completely tone deaf and inappropriate. Also, Pence is a huge scumbag as a religious person. Trump is literally pretending to be religious in the White House. Surely that is some kind of sin in Pence's faith... but he doesn't care. He just endorses him anyhow. Pence is a disgrace to his faith IMO, and that is said without my colouring it with my own anti-religion beliefs. Even as an Atheist, I find Pence's position as a man of faith and as an endorser of Trump the fake Christian absolutely reprehensible in the context of faith. I think that any Christian who isn't appalled by all this is also basically a fake Christian, just like their hero.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Reminds me of that insane Boy Scouts of America speech Trump gave a while back. Just completely tone deaf and inappropriate. Also, Pence is a huge scumbag as a religious person. Trump is literally pretending to be religious in the White House. Surely that is some kind of sin in Pence's faith... but he doesn't care. He just endorses him anyhow. Pence is a disgrace to his faith IMO, and that is said without my colouring it with my own anti-religion beliefs. Even as an Atheist, I find Pence's position as a man of faith and as an endorser of Trump the fake Christian absolutely reprehensible in the context of faith. I think that any Christian who isn't appalled by all this is also basically a fake Christian, just like their hero.
There's a quote attributed to Ghandi (unconfirmed), but I like it anyway.
I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ
Reminds me of that insane Boy Scouts of America speech Trump gave a while back. Just completely tone deaf and inappropriate. Also, Pence is a huge scumbag as a religious person. Trump is literally pretending to be religious in the White House. Surely that is some kind of sin in Pence's faith... but he doesn't care. He just endorses him anyhow. Pence is a disgrace to his faith IMO, and that is said without my colouring it with my own anti-religion beliefs. Even as an Atheist, I find Pence's position as a man of faith and as an endorser of Trump the fake Christian absolutely reprehensible in the context of faith. I think that any Christian who isn't appalled by all this is also basically a fake Christian, just like their hero.
There's a quote attributed to Ghandi (unconfirmed), but I like it anyway.
I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ
I thought the repubes were pro-life? Is taking the most vulnerable humans, children, away from their parents and housing them in tents because their parents brought them to the border of the alleged greatest country on earth? Maybe Team Trump Treason can put them to work building the wall for their 3 colds and a cot? “Please sir? Can I have some more?”
Repubes, pro life and pro family and family values until you’re born.
Yep this story is what everyone should be screaming about kids being separated from their parents , this weekend just think about this the kids are indoors 80% of the day !
Hey sarah, stick with Chik-Fil-A, it’s corporate philosophy is closer to yours and your family.
It’s a dangerous slope to have people kicking people out of businesses when you disagree with their politics. Although it’s a private business and tough to say government should control who they can and cannot serve and politics isn’t a protected area.
But then again, this admin is different then just politics as it seems to support racists and sexist agendas. So I do find this to be a tough subject to wrap my head around
Hey sarah, stick with Chik-Fil-A, it’s corporate philosophy is closer to yours and your family.
It’s a dangerous slope to have people kicking people out of businesses when you disagree with their politics. Although it’s a private business and tough to say government should control who they can and cannot serve and politics isn’t a protected area.
But then again, this admin is different then just politics as it seems to support racists and sexist agendas. So I do find this to be a tough subject to wrap my head around
That's the difference, in my opinion. I doubt President Kasich's press secretary would have issues like this had he won....
Hey sarah, stick with Chik-Fil-A, it’s corporate philosophy is closer to yours and your family.
It’s a dangerous slope to have people kicking people out of businesses when you disagree with their politics. Although it’s a private business and tough to say government should control who they can and cannot serve and politics isn’t a protected area.
But then again, this admin is different then just politics as it seems to support racists and sexist agendas. So I do find this to be a tough subject to wrap my head around
That's the difference, in my opinion. I doubt President Kasich's press secretary would have issues like this had he won....
I was okay with Kasich. I didn't like many of his policies, but he is an honest broker and appears to have, what used to be called a "conscience".
Hey sarah, stick with Chik-Fil-A, it’s corporate philosophy is closer to yours and your family.
It’s a dangerous slope to have people kicking people out of businesses when you disagree with their politics. Although it’s a private business and tough to say government should control who they can and cannot serve and politics isn’t a protected area.
But then again, this admin is different then just politics as it seems to support racists and sexist agendas. So I do find this to be a tough subject to wrap my head around
Maybe it’s a little more dangerous to advocate for the killing of those who you disagree with?
“There shouldn’t be comparisons made to Team Trump Treason, or Repubes and Nazis.” Why? “There’s no evidence to support it and this is not the holocaust.”
Where’s the repube outrage for this rhetoric? Randy Paul endorse him yet? And us libs shouldn’t compare conservatives and Team Trump Treason to Nazis again because why?
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From the American Conservative...
Politicians on both sides speak to national church gatherings all the time. You know that, right? It’s not unusual for the Southern Baptist Convention to have invited Vice President Mike Pence to address their annual meeting today.
Some Baptists said in advance that it was a bad idea. For one, the role of Robert Jeffress, pastor of First Baptist Dallas, one of the biggest and most powerful church in the SBC, as a chief spiritual adviser for Donald Trump has been controversial within church circles. Many younger Southern Baptists — conservatives, not liberals — are tired of the denomination’s close association with the Republican Party. Plus, Trump’s history of treating women crudely does not sit well with many in the SBC, which has been stricken by a sex abuse scandal that has taken out its most accomplished conservative leader, Paige Patterson. (N.B., Patterson was not personally accused of abuse, but of handling it very badly.)
Nevertheless, Pence came. This would have been a perfect occasion for the vice president to deliver a policy speech on the importance of protecting religious liberty — an issue that matters to Southern Baptists more than just about anybody.
Nope. Most of the speech — which you can watch here — was pure political #MAGA. “Under President Donald Trump, America is back, and we’re just getting started!” he said, in a typical line.
When Pence did bring up religious liberty, he spoke passionately about how the administration is dedicated to getting rid of the Johnson Amendment, a provision of the tax code forbidding non-profit organizations from endorsing or opposing particular candidates.
“We will not rest until it is repealed!” Pence thundered. The tepid applause indicates how low on the priority list the Johnson Amendment is for most Christians, even those who are really engaged on the religious liberty issue. It only really matters to the machers of Conservative Christianity, Inc.
Pence mentioned abortion and persecuted Christians abroad, but explicitly in context of how Christians have never had it so good as they do under Trump. It was a repulsive speech, quite frankly, despite some good non-political material at the end, added almost as an afterthought.
The Southern Baptists are not theologically liberal, mind you. For Southern Baptists hoping to escape their “Republican Party At Prayer” image, and refocus their denomination on religious mission, the Pence speech was a huge setback.
UPDATE: I know these guys. They’re conservatives.
That it happened was bad enough. That it was essentially a stump speech was unbearable.
I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ
Repubes, pro life and pro family and family values until you’re born.
Wake the fuck up people.
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Recently sighted in the northeast...
The very rare republican politician with some sense and some balls.....
Ripping kids out of their families arms?
Steve Schmidt, Longtime G.O.P. Strategist, Quits ‘Corrupt’ and ‘Immoral’ Party
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/us/politics/party-of-trump-steve-schmidt.html#click=https://t.co/sGQ0aB3bSZ
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/23/politics/mike-huckabee-ms13-pelosi/index.html
Hey sarah, stick with Chik-Fil-A, it’s corporate philosophy is closer to yours and your family.
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But then again, this admin is different then just politics as it seems to support racists and sexist agendas. So I do find this to be a tough subject to wrap my head around
There Really Is a Secret Club in Washington Whose Members Run America - The Wall Street Journal https://apple.news/AH0rUP1gJSMqVhKbLyNHvjQ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctwqnkWdCJg
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/michael-moore-glenn-beck-bill-oreilly-have-called-for-violance-against-me/
So yea, repubes. Where was the right and denunciation of violence then? Crickets. It’s been going on for a long time.
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Fuck them. Pick a side.
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