The Pizza Thread

Wobbie

BTP!

bbiggs

Wobbie said:

bbiggs said:

RiotZact said:

I was just planning on saying “dipped” when I ordered mine, does that mean it’s going to be dripping and soggy? Or does it depend on the place? 

I think it depends on the place. The places I go have the beef soaking in the au jus so there’s no need to dip it anymore. If the beef is separate, get it dipped. Where it gets too soggy is when they take the spoon and douse beef that was soaking in au jus with another scoop of au jus once it’s already on the bread. Sorry I’m probably doing a shit job of explaining this lol 

that was a perfectly fine explanation.

I loved chicago beef and think the dipping of a french dip is dumb. I would say they are not the same, since a french dip is on 75% of bar food menus across the U.S.

Exactly! You are spot on. 

RiotZact

Yeah I haven’t had a Chicago Italian beef sandwich yet but I very much so expect it to be better than a French dip. And thanks for the info Biggs, it was very helpful! I think I might just stick to dry and make sure the place has it stewing in the “gravy”. I wouldn’t mind some softness in the bread, but full on sogginess I can’t do. 

RiotZact

Thoughts_Arrive said:

I feel yuck today after stuffing myself with pizza last night. Plus thirsty.

Yeah, anytime I have pizza for dinner I have to make sure I have an extra large glass of water near my bed somewhere, crazy how much it dries you up. 

Thoughts_Arrive

RiotZact said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

I feel yuck today after stuffing myself with pizza last night. Plus thirsty.

Yeah, anytime I have pizza for dinner I have to make sure I have an extra large glass of water near my bed somewhere, crazy how much it dries you up. 

I'm thirsty for hours afterwards. Kept drinking after dinner and before bed.
My gut feels yuck today.
And I feel lazy to do anything lol

F Me In The Brain

Wob, exactly what one might expect from someone that chose to live in Las Vegas for years.
If you have had a true French Dip

.
Not dumb.

Chicago beef sandwich is great

No better French dip than Phillipe

Wobbie

F Me In The Brain said:

Wob, exactly what one might expect from someone that chose to live in Las Vegas for years.
If you have had a true French Dip

.
Not dumb.

Chicago beef sandwich is great

No better French dip than Phillipe

I’m missing what vegas has to do with anything

I don’t like a french dip because I don’t care for soggy bread....reminds me of joey chestnut dipping a hot dog.

BTW....vegas has some really good philly cheesesteaks.

but, I digress.

BTP!

F Me In The Brain

You know who has really good cheese steak?
Philly

RiotZact

F Me In The Brain said:

You know who has really good cheese steak?
Philly

A few examples from my travels: :

Wobbie

jeebus christ! that last one is pornagraphic.....and unappetizing.

(I think my spelling is alcohol fucked up)

RiotZact

Wobbie said:

jeebus christ! that last one is pornagraphic.....and unappetizing.

(I think my spelling is alcohol fucked up)

The last one is the best sandwich I’ve ever ate in my life. Dalessandro’s, American cheese without onions. It is in fact pornographic, hopefully the mods don’t close this thread. 

This is sooo derailed lol. 

Wobbie

RiotZact said:

Wobbie said:

jeebus christ! that last one is pornagraphic.....and unappetizing.

(I think my spelling is alcohol fucked up)

The last one is the best sandwich I’ve ever ate in my life. Dalessandro’s, American cheese without onions. It is in fact pornographic, hopefully the mods don’t close this thread. 

This is sooo derailed lol. 

does NOT look good.....but I am fucking hungry!

hedonist

F Me In The Brain said:

Phillipe the original.  
Los Angeles.
Money

Fuckin. A.

I'm also partial to adding some spicy horseradish sauce post-dip.

F Me In The Brain

For sure!

Regeated pizza from yesterday.  Eggggselent!

Thirty Bills Unpaid

I'm getting a kick out of how Scruffy shows us one good pizza... finally... and his confidence in this thread is mile high.

And that last Philly sandwich did not score any points for being beautiful. I'm not discounting the possibility of being great tasting though. RiotZ has a bit of street cred.

RiotZact

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

And that last Philly sandwich did not score any points for being beautiful. I'm not discounting the possibility of being great tasting though. RiotZ has a bit of street cred.

I do? Lol. But I really don’t need it, it’s Dalessandro’s, it’s very commonly know as one of the best. 4.5 stars on yelp with thousands of reviews. 

HesCalledDyer

bbiggs said:

mcgruff10 said:

bbiggs said:

HesCalledDyer said:

bbiggs said:

Not to derail the thread, but while most chicagoans agree on lou’s for pizza, you’ll get at least a handful of answers for good local beef sandwiches. 

Is there much parity with dipped vs dry when it comes to beef sandwiches? I’ve always gotten mine dry with sauce on the side and I feel like I get judged for that by some of the looks I’ve gotten.

I think there’s a fair amount of parity between the top beef spots in Chicago in terms of their sandwich quality, but dipped vs. dry is a whole different animal. Depending on which side someone is on, they may defend it pretty hard. For me, I don’t like it too dry, but dripping with au jus is too much. It makes the bread too soggy and it falls apart and it’s just a mess imo. The best beef sandwiches have just the right balance of au jus to make the beef moist with a slight sogginess to the bread.  The au jus is what makes the sandwich though. That’s where the flavor is at. And you have to add sweet peppers or hot giardiniera to the sandwich.  One or the other is a must. 

But if your preference is to get it dry and dip it in some au jus on the side, nothing wrong with that at all pal. Wave those dirty-lookers the bird! 

are these in the same lines of "french dip" sandwiches?  where do I go for these?!

Italian beef is different than a French dip and much better imo. The photo below is a Portillos beef. It’s a real pic I stole online rather than the perfected shots you might see in a commercial. This is the real deal. You can see the sogginess of the bread which is a good thing. It’s got the right amount of au jus but not too much.  When you’re in Chicago, go to Portillos! The best. Als beef is very good too. Johnnies Beef is amazing too but it’s in Emwood Park which is a neighborhood on the west outskirts of Chicago (too far). Those are 3 local icons...can’t go wrong. But DO go to Portillos. It’s an experience unlike any other. 

I’ll second Portillo's. It is definitely an unmatched experience. And get a chocolate cake shake, too!

As for the Italian beef, I do like the sandwich with some au jus on it, I just don’t like the whole thing dunked. Like you said, it makes the whole thing too soggy and a complete mess.  I do like to get a cup on the side and dip it as I go, but definitely some on the sandwich itself too.  And I usually get both the sport peppers and giardinera. Cuz why not?!

HesCalledDyer

RiotZact said:

F Me In The Brain said:

You know who has really good cheese steak?
Philly

A few examples from my travels: :

That last one looks like my toilet water at 4am after wing night. 

Thoughts_Arrive

Looks like turd in a roll.

RiotZact

Ok so I wasn’t going to explain this but I guess I have to now. See, the very thing that makes it look like a turd is actually what makes it so good! The chopped beef and the American cheese have fused together as one, which is the most important quality in a good cheesesteak. It is only one word, after all.