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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,771
    i find it disturbing when anyone claims that the lives of one nation's innocents are worth more than that of another nation's. i mean, the people you KNOW mean more to YOU, obviously, but in the grand scheme, everyone's worth is the same. 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,880
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    i find it disturbing when anyone claims that the lives of one nation's innocents are worth more than that of another nation's. i mean, the people you KNOW mean more to YOU, obviously, but in the grand scheme, everyone's worth is the same. 
    Are they?

    If there was going to be an asteroid hitting the US and you could only fit 1000 people into the bunker....do you just randomly pick 1000?  ;)


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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,458
    cincybearcat said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    i find it disturbing when anyone claims that the lives of one nation's innocents are worth more than that of another nation's. i mean, the people you KNOW mean more to YOU, obviously, but in the grand scheme, everyone's worth is the same. 
    Are they?

    If there was going to be an asteroid hitting the US and you could only fit 1000 people into the bunker....do you just randomly pick 1000?  ;)


    Sounds like a movie plot...
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,458
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    i find it disturbing when anyone claims that the lives of one nation's innocents are worth more than that of another nation's. i mean, the people you KNOW mean more to YOU, obviously, but in the grand scheme, everyone's worth is the same. 
    I think we'd all like to think that we believe everyone's worth is the same, but ultimately it's not. I'm not sure how we begin to classify what qualifies as "innocents", but we probably all know some people who definitely are not valuable contributors to society and who we'd place below ourselves and others. It sure makes for an interesting discussion though.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,771
    tbergs said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    i find it disturbing when anyone claims that the lives of one nation's innocents are worth more than that of another nation's. i mean, the people you KNOW mean more to YOU, obviously, but in the grand scheme, everyone's worth is the same. 
    I think we'd all like to think that we believe everyone's worth is the same, but ultimately it's not. I'm not sure how we begin to classify what qualifies as "innocents", but we probably all know some people who definitely are not valuable contributors to society and who we'd place below ourselves and others. It sure makes for an interesting discussion though.
    yes, I just mean on paper, as in our value as a human and not our accomplishments/personalities. obviously someone who is an astrophysicist is probably "worth" more than some wife beating loser, but when we're talking about obliterating hundreds of thousands, I'm just looking at lives as lives, not the individuals. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,760
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    tbergs said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    i find it disturbing when anyone claims that the lives of one nation's innocents are worth more than that of another nation's. i mean, the people you KNOW mean more to YOU, obviously, but in the grand scheme, everyone's worth is the same. 
    I think we'd all like to think that we believe everyone's worth is the same, but ultimately it's not. I'm not sure how we begin to classify what qualifies as "innocents", but we probably all know some people who definitely are not valuable contributors to society and who we'd place below ourselves and others. It sure makes for an interesting discussion though.
    yes, I just mean on paper, as in our value as a human and not our accomplishments/personalities. obviously someone who is an astrophysicist is probably "worth" more than some wife beating loser, but when we're talking about obliterating hundreds of thousands, I'm just looking at lives as lives, not the individuals. 
    Exactly. Context is everything, and in this context, the question is actually "are Japanese lives less important than American lives?" The answer, IMO, is no.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    RideRick said:

    If guns where the solution it would be peace already because everybody was shot.

    If guns were the answer America would be the safest place on earth
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    cincybearcat said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    i find it disturbing when anyone claims that the lives of one nation's innocents are worth more than that of another nation's. i mean, the people you KNOW mean more to YOU, obviously, but in the grand scheme, everyone's worth is the same. 
    Are they?

    If there was going to be an asteroid hitting the US and you could only fit 1000 people into the bunker....do you just randomly pick 1000?  ;)


    I don't want anything to do with that bunker... bring on the Asteroid 

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