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jnimhaoileoin said:By the way, I am very happy to describe myself as an atheistic pacifist with left-wing socialist beliefs. I don't think this in any way makes me less of an individual or impinges upon my ability to think independently. Rather it gives me a sense of identity0
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dudeman said:Some people have a desire, maybe even a need, to place others in a particular box. I assume that is so they know how to approach talking to them. I do it too but I see it as problematic.
I am liberal leaning. But I don't always vote liberal party. Actually, not just "not always", I don't vote consistently by party EVER. it is based on the issues of today, where I think my area/country needs to go socially, politically, globally, economically, and make my decision based on that. i have voted every single major party (there are 5 recognized) in Canada.
I voted democrat provincially, but then they ran our economy into the toilet, so I voted conservative in the last election. Now that hoser spends most of his time at his residence in costa rica and it's apparently no one's business how much work he does while there. he won't even tell people how he communicates with his staff in Manitoba while there, citing "security concerns".
it is quite likely I won't be voting that party next time around.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:dudeman said:Some people have a desire, maybe even a need, to place others in a particular box. I assume that is so they know how to approach talking to them. I do it too but I see it as problematic.
I am liberal leaning. But I don't always vote liberal party. Actually, not just "not always", I don't vote consistently by party EVER. it is based on the issues of today, where I think my area/country needs to go socially, politically, globally, economically, and make my decision based on that. i have voted every single major party (there are 5 recognized) in Canada.
I voted democrat provincially, but then they ran our economy into the toilet, so I voted conservative in the last election. Now that hoser spends most of his time at his residence in costa rica and it's apparently no one's business how much work he does while there. he won't even tell people how he communicates with his staff in Manitoba while there, citing "security concerns".
it is quite likely I won't be voting that party next time around.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
brianlux said:jnimhaoileoin said:Labels are pretty damn essential when having any discussion about politics. I don't know how it works in your country but parties are identified by labels and it just makes everything a lot easier. In Denmark, the statsminister is from the Venstre party, which literally means Left (though in English they're called the Liberal Party). Nearly every country in Europe has a Socialist party. It's just how things work.
And what is the "everything" you mention that labels make easy and why is it this everything needs to be easy?
I'm not trying to be belligerent with you, honestly, but I don't understand your argument.
and as to your "I'm a conservative because I fight for the conservation of the earth", you know that "conservative" in the current political context of the word has zero do with envinronmental conservation. it's conserving their values, as you know.
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hedonist said:jnimhaoileoin said:By the way, I am very happy to describe myself as an atheistic pacifist with left-wing socialist beliefs. I don't think this in any way makes me less of an individual or impinges upon my ability to think independently. Rather it gives me a sense of identity0
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HughFreakingDillon said:brianlux said:jnimhaoileoin said:Labels are pretty damn essential when having any discussion about politics. I don't know how it works in your country but parties are identified by labels and it just makes everything a lot easier. In Denmark, the statsminister is from the Venstre party, which literally means Left (though in English they're called the Liberal Party). Nearly every country in Europe has a Socialist party. It's just how things work.
And what is the "everything" you mention that labels make easy and why is it this everything needs to be easy?
I'm not trying to be belligerent with you, honestly, but I don't understand your argument.
and as to your "I'm a conservative because I fight for the conservation of the earth", you know that "conservative" in the current political context of the word has zero do with envinronmental conservation. it's conserving their values, as you know.
just stirring the pot, again, brian!
Fire burn, and caldron bubble.
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PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:dudeman said:Some people have a desire, maybe even a need, to place others in a particular box. I assume that is so they know how to approach talking to them. I do it too but I see it as problematic.
I am liberal leaning. But I don't always vote liberal party. Actually, not just "not always", I don't vote consistently by party EVER. it is based on the issues of today, where I think my area/country needs to go socially, politically, globally, economically, and make my decision based on that. i have voted every single major party (there are 5 recognized) in Canada.
I voted democrat provincially, but then they ran our economy into the toilet, so I voted conservative in the last election. Now that hoser spends most of his time at his residence in costa rica and it's apparently no one's business how much work he does while there. he won't even tell people how he communicates with his staff in Manitoba while there, citing "security concerns".
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Go Beavers said:PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:dudeman said:Some people have a desire, maybe even a need, to place others in a particular box. I assume that is so they know how to approach talking to them. I do it too but I see it as problematic.
I am liberal leaning. But I don't always vote liberal party. Actually, not just "not always", I don't vote consistently by party EVER. it is based on the issues of today, where I think my area/country needs to go socially, politically, globally, economically, and make my decision based on that. i have voted every single major party (there are 5 recognized) in Canada.
I voted democrat provincially, but then they ran our economy into the toilet, so I voted conservative in the last election. Now that hoser spends most of his time at his residence in costa rica and it's apparently no one's business how much work he does while there. he won't even tell people how he communicates with his staff in Manitoba while there, citing "security concerns".
it is quite likely I won't be voting that party next time around.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
PJ_Soul said:Go Beavers said:PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:dudeman said:Some people have a desire, maybe even a need, to place others in a particular box. I assume that is so they know how to approach talking to them. I do it too but I see it as problematic.
I am liberal leaning. But I don't always vote liberal party. Actually, not just "not always", I don't vote consistently by party EVER. it is based on the issues of today, where I think my area/country needs to go socially, politically, globally, economically, and make my decision based on that. i have voted every single major party (there are 5 recognized) in Canada.
I voted democrat provincially, but then they ran our economy into the toilet, so I voted conservative in the last election. Now that hoser spends most of his time at his residence in costa rica and it's apparently no one's business how much work he does while there. he won't even tell people how he communicates with his staff in Manitoba while there, citing "security concerns".
it is quite likely I won't be voting that party next time around.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Go Beavers said:PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:dudeman said:Some people have a desire, maybe even a need, to place others in a particular box. I assume that is so they know how to approach talking to them. I do it too but I see it as problematic.
I am liberal leaning. But I don't always vote liberal party. Actually, not just "not always", I don't vote consistently by party EVER. it is based on the issues of today, where I think my area/country needs to go socially, politically, globally, economically, and make my decision based on that. i have voted every single major party (there are 5 recognized) in Canada.
I voted democrat provincially, but then they ran our economy into the toilet, so I voted conservative in the last election. Now that hoser spends most of his time at his residence in costa rica and it's apparently no one's business how much work he does while there. he won't even tell people how he communicates with his staff in Manitoba while there, citing "security concerns".
it is quite likely I won't be voting that party next time around.
I would have security concerns if I went to Manitoba.
(Sorry, HFD)
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oftenreading said:Go Beavers said:PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:dudeman said:Some people have a desire, maybe even a need, to place others in a particular box. I assume that is so they know how to approach talking to them. I do it too but I see it as problematic.
I am liberal leaning. But I don't always vote liberal party. Actually, not just "not always", I don't vote consistently by party EVER. it is based on the issues of today, where I think my area/country needs to go socially, politically, globally, economically, and make my decision based on that. i have voted every single major party (there are 5 recognized) in Canada.
I voted democrat provincially, but then they ran our economy into the toilet, so I voted conservative in the last election. Now that hoser spends most of his time at his residence in costa rica and it's apparently no one's business how much work he does while there. he won't even tell people how he communicates with his staff in Manitoba while there, citing "security concerns".
it is quite likely I won't be voting that party next time around.
I would have security concerns if I went to Manitoba.
(Sorry, HFD)
Otherwise, sounds like a nice place. Home town of Neil Young!
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
I wonder if labels are used as an offense or defense.
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brianlux said:oftenreading said:Go Beavers said:PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:dudeman said:Some people have a desire, maybe even a need, to place others in a particular box. I assume that is so they know how to approach talking to them. I do it too but I see it as problematic.
I am liberal leaning. But I don't always vote liberal party. Actually, not just "not always", I don't vote consistently by party EVER. it is based on the issues of today, where I think my area/country needs to go socially, politically, globally, economically, and make my decision based on that. i have voted every single major party (there are 5 recognized) in Canada.
I voted democrat provincially, but then they ran our economy into the toilet, so I voted conservative in the last election. Now that hoser spends most of his time at his residence in costa rica and it's apparently no one's business how much work he does while there. he won't even tell people how he communicates with his staff in Manitoba while there, citing "security concerns".
it is quite likely I won't be voting that party next time around.
I would have security concerns if I went to Manitoba.
(Sorry, HFD)
Otherwise, sounds like a nice place. Home town of Neil Young!
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HughFreakingDillon said:brianlux said:oftenreading said:Go Beavers said:PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:dudeman said:Some people have a desire, maybe even a need, to place others in a particular box. I assume that is so they know how to approach talking to them. I do it too but I see it as problematic.
I am liberal leaning. But I don't always vote liberal party. Actually, not just "not always", I don't vote consistently by party EVER. it is based on the issues of today, where I think my area/country needs to go socially, politically, globally, economically, and make my decision based on that. i have voted every single major party (there are 5 recognized) in Canada.
I voted democrat provincially, but then they ran our economy into the toilet, so I voted conservative in the last election. Now that hoser spends most of his time at his residence in costa rica and it's apparently no one's business how much work he does while there. he won't even tell people how he communicates with his staff in Manitoba while there, citing "security concerns".
it is quite likely I won't be voting that party next time around.
I would have security concerns if I went to Manitoba.
(Sorry, HFD)
Otherwise, sounds like a nice place. Home town of Neil Young!
But no, seriously, when I read the above (and humorous responses to) concerns about security in Manitoba it peaked my curiosity and I went on-line to see what I could find and found an article on safety of travel in Winnepeg. Other than the North End, it sounds like an interesting town. (So I guess I am a little obsessed with wanting to know the details)
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HughFreakingDillon said:brianlux said:oftenreading said:Go Beavers said:PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:dudeman said:Some people have a desire, maybe even a need, to place others in a particular box. I assume that is so they know how to approach talking to them. I do it too but I see it as problematic.
I am liberal leaning. But I don't always vote liberal party. Actually, not just "not always", I don't vote consistently by party EVER. it is based on the issues of today, where I think my area/country needs to go socially, politically, globally, economically, and make my decision based on that. i have voted every single major party (there are 5 recognized) in Canada.
I voted democrat provincially, but then they ran our economy into the toilet, so I voted conservative in the last election. Now that hoser spends most of his time at his residence in costa rica and it's apparently no one's business how much work he does while there. he won't even tell people how he communicates with his staff in Manitoba while there, citing "security concerns".
it is quite likely I won't be voting that party next time around.
I would have security concerns if I went to Manitoba.
(Sorry, HFD)
Otherwise, sounds like a nice place. Home town of Neil Young!
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:brianlux said:oftenreading said:Go Beavers said:PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:dudeman said:Some people have a desire, maybe even a need, to place others in a particular box. I assume that is so they know how to approach talking to them. I do it too but I see it as problematic.
I am liberal leaning. But I don't always vote liberal party. Actually, not just "not always", I don't vote consistently by party EVER. it is based on the issues of today, where I think my area/country needs to go socially, politically, globally, economically, and make my decision based on that. i have voted every single major party (there are 5 recognized) in Canada.
I voted democrat provincially, but then they ran our economy into the toilet, so I voted conservative in the last election. Now that hoser spends most of his time at his residence in costa rica and it's apparently no one's business how much work he does while there. he won't even tell people how he communicates with his staff in Manitoba while there, citing "security concerns".
it is quite likely I won't be voting that party next time around.
I would have security concerns if I went to Manitoba.
(Sorry, HFD)
Otherwise, sounds like a nice place. Home town of Neil Young!
Stayed in Kits for a week at a condo on the water a few years back. it was glorious.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:brianlux said:oftenreading said:Go Beavers said:PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:dudeman said:Some people have a desire, maybe even a need, to place others in a particular box. I assume that is so they know how to approach talking to them. I do it too but I see it as problematic.
I am liberal leaning. But I don't always vote liberal party. Actually, not just "not always", I don't vote consistently by party EVER. it is based on the issues of today, where I think my area/country needs to go socially, politically, globally, economically, and make my decision based on that. i have voted every single major party (there are 5 recognized) in Canada.
I voted democrat provincially, but then they ran our economy into the toilet, so I voted conservative in the last election. Now that hoser spends most of his time at his residence in costa rica and it's apparently no one's business how much work he does while there. he won't even tell people how he communicates with his staff in Manitoba while there, citing "security concerns".
it is quite likely I won't be voting that party next time around.
I would have security concerns if I went to Manitoba.
(Sorry, HFD)
Otherwise, sounds like a nice place. Home town of Neil Young!
Stayed in Kits for a week at a condo on the water a few years back. it was glorious.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:brianlux said:oftenreading said:Go Beavers said:PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:dudeman said:Some people have a desire, maybe even a need, to place others in a particular box. I assume that is so they know how to approach talking to them. I do it too but I see it as problematic.
I am liberal leaning. But I don't always vote liberal party. Actually, not just "not always", I don't vote consistently by party EVER. it is based on the issues of today, where I think my area/country needs to go socially, politically, globally, economically, and make my decision based on that. i have voted every single major party (there are 5 recognized) in Canada.
I voted democrat provincially, but then they ran our economy into the toilet, so I voted conservative in the last election. Now that hoser spends most of his time at his residence in costa rica and it's apparently no one's business how much work he does while there. he won't even tell people how he communicates with his staff in Manitoba while there, citing "security concerns".
it is quite likely I won't be voting that party next time around.
I would have security concerns if I went to Manitoba.
(Sorry, HFD)
Otherwise, sounds like a nice place. Home town of Neil Young!
Stayed in Kits for a week at a condo on the water a few years back. it was glorious.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
oftenreading said:PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:brianlux said:oftenreading said:Go Beavers said:PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:dudeman said:Some people have a desire, maybe even a need, to place others in a particular box. I assume that is so they know how to approach talking to them. I do it too but I see it as problematic.
I am liberal leaning. But I don't always vote liberal party. Actually, not just "not always", I don't vote consistently by party EVER. it is based on the issues of today, where I think my area/country needs to go socially, politically, globally, economically, and make my decision based on that. i have voted every single major party (there are 5 recognized) in Canada.
I voted democrat provincially, but then they ran our economy into the toilet, so I voted conservative in the last election. Now that hoser spends most of his time at his residence in costa rica and it's apparently no one's business how much work he does while there. he won't even tell people how he communicates with his staff in Manitoba while there, citing "security concerns".
it is quite likely I won't be voting that party next time around.
I would have security concerns if I went to Manitoba.
(Sorry, HFD)
Otherwise, sounds like a nice place. Home town of Neil Young!
Stayed in Kits for a week at a condo on the water a few years back. it was glorious.
How much are those private float plane rides to and from Vancouver/Victoria? Maybe those are cheaper than going through the actual airport? I'm sure you've checked all options though. Have you heard about this private company planning on a super duper fast-ferry route for downtown Vancouver-Victoria? No word yet as far as pricing goes (I don't think), but that would likely be cheaper than flying in any case, and the downtown Vancouver port is SOOOO much more convenient than Tsawwassen, especially if you're going YVR.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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