Glad I decided to step back to collecting only posters/prints of shows I've attended for the most part. Sounds like to much frustration going on with these sells lately. Plus it keeps $$$ in my pocket, that's the best part.
I don't see why anyone should have an issue with someone buying posters/prints from shows they didn't attend, unless it's for the purpose of flipping it right away.
So, how many people that DIDN'T attend the show buy these posters?
Too many "collectors" that want everything even if they weren't there
Are we really knocking people for buying a print for a show that they did not attend?
I'm not knocking anything or anybody... just pointing out why posters for shows with an attendance of 3,000 sell out in 30 seconds like 30,000 people were there
People can buy what they want... sell what they want... trade what they want... doesn't bother me at all... we own several posters ourselves and have several framed and hanging
What bothers me is they watch this year after year and don't seem to increase print runs or at least the artist print runs... a lot of PJ fans are insane collectors at this point, or flippers, so the least that should happen is 200 prints for the artist... and I would have no issue with artists like Brad selling their PJ/EV prints for $200
Bummed out. Had the Mumford in my cart got all the way through paypal and when hit pay goes back to site and says out of stock. Oh well it is what it is.
Bummed out. Had the Mumford in my cart got all the way through paypal and when hit pay goes back to site and says out of stock. Oh well it is what it is.
Same here, first show I have been to and didn't manage to get the poster. Might try for a trade now, only thing is, only have one poster that I think will get me a Mumford..........Crackerjack. Got it in the mystery poster sale. Gonna have to think long and hard about this though........
Glasgow Cathouse 1992
Glasgow S.E.C.C. 2000
Shepherds Bush 2009 - M.E.N 2009 - London O2 2009
Boston 2010 - Newark 2010 - MSG1+2 2010 - Dublin 2010 - Belfast 2010
London 2010
Manchester 1+2 2012 EV Manchester 2012 EV London 31/7/2012
Philly 1+2 2013 - Hartford 2013
Berlin 2014 Leeds 2014
Fenway 2 2016 EV London 1+2 2017 London 1+2 - Berlin 2018
Bummed out. Had the Mumford in my cart got all the way through paypal and when hit pay goes back to site and says out of stock. Oh well it is what it is.
Same here, first show I have been to and didn't manage to get the poster. Might try for a trade now, only thing is, only have one poster that I think will get me a Mumford..........Crackerjack. Got it in the mystery poster sale. Gonna have to think long and hard about this though........
So, how many people that DIDN'T attend the show buy these posters?
Too many "collectors" that want everything even if they weren't there
Are we really knocking people for buying a print for a show that they did not attend?
I'm not knocking anything or anybody... just pointing out why posters for shows with an attendance of 3,000 sell out in 30 seconds like 30,000 people were there
People can buy what they want... sell what they want... trade what they want... doesn't bother me at all... we own several posters ourselves and have several framed and hanging
What bothers me is they watch this year after year and don't seem to increase print runs or at least the artist print runs... a lot of PJ fans are insane collectors at this point, or flippers, so the least that should happen is 200 prints for the artist... and I would have no issue with artists like Brad selling their PJ/EV prints for $200
I only recently got the bug of buying concert posters as art, and I have all of them displayed. I particularly like getting A/P, of which I have 3.
After the last Mystery Box sale, I did notice that a lot of fans only buy merchandise to use as currency for other trades, which also feeds into the market of buying items for non-attended shows. I'm cool with that too, as it eventually stays within reach of fan's wallets.
So, how many people that DIDN'T attend the show buy these posters?
Too many "collectors" that want everything even if they weren't there
Are we really knocking people for buying a print for a show that they did not attend?
I'm not knocking anything or anybody... just pointing out why posters for shows with an attendance of 3,000 sell out in 30 seconds like 30,000 people were there
People can buy what they want... sell what they want... trade what they want... doesn't bother me at all... we own several posters ourselves and have several framed and hanging
What bothers me is they watch this year after year and don't seem to increase print runs or at least the artist print runs... a lot of PJ fans are insane collectors at this point, or flippers, so the least that should happen is 200 prints for the artist... and I would have no issue with artists like Brad selling their PJ/EV prints for $200
I only recently got the bug of buying concert posters as art, and I have all of them displayed. I particularly like getting A/P, of which I have 3.
After the last Mystery Box sale, I did notice that a lot of fans only buy merchandise to use as currency for other trades, which also feeds into the market of buying items for non-attended shows. I'm cool with that too, as it eventually stays within reach of fan's wallets.
It's a free world... it is what it is and there isn't much you or I can do about it
Again, I think the solution is adding quantity and upping the price
When neil young plays a small venue... if you want 5th row it costs $275... which I have no problem with, because it gives me the chance to buy it directly from the onsale and give that $ to the artist instead of some guy sitting in his underpants on the couch making more than Neil on his own ticket.... same here, I would rather pay Brad $200 and likely get a print I want, making sure he gets all the money, instead of a flipper making more than Brad on his own print
So, how many people that DIDN'T attend the show buy these posters?
Too many "collectors" that want everything even if they weren't there
Are we really knocking people for buying a print for a show that they did not attend?
I'm not knocking anything or anybody... just pointing out why posters for shows with an attendance of 3,000 sell out in 30 seconds like 30,000 people were there
People can buy what they want... sell what they want... trade what they want... doesn't bother me at all... we own several posters ourselves and have several framed and hanging
What bothers me is they watch this year after year and don't seem to increase print runs or at least the artist print runs... a lot of PJ fans are insane collectors at this point, or flippers, so the least that should happen is 200 prints for the artist... and I would have no issue with artists like Brad selling their PJ/EV prints for $200
I only recently got the bug of buying concert posters as art, and I have all of them displayed. I particularly like getting A/P, of which I have 3.
After the last Mystery Box sale, I did notice that a lot of fans only buy merchandise to use as currency for other trades, which also feeds into the market of buying items for non-attended shows. I'm cool with that too, as it eventually stays within reach of fan's wallets.
It's a free world... it is what it is and there isn't much you or I can do about it
Again, I think the solution is adding quantity and upping the price
When neil young plays a small venue... if you want 5th row it costs $275... which I have no problem with, because it gives me the chance to buy it directly from the onsale and give that $ to the artist instead of some guy sitting in his underpants on the couch making more than Neil on his own ticket.... same here, I would rather pay Brad $200 and likely get a print I want, making sure he gets all the money, instead of a flipper making more than Brad on his own print
Absolutely!!!!
'96: Seattle: Key Arena '98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2 '00: Columbus: Polaris '03: Columbus: Germain '10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena '11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit '12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2 '13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle '14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline '15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival '16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2 '17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony '18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1 '22: Nashville / St. Louis
While that sounds great upping the price for the artist, I can't help but think then it becomes a rich (wo)mans game. Keeping it affordable is one of the best things about it and you have to expect to lose/win some. I expect to pay more for the sig and variant, but I don't want to break the bank because of it. I have to believe that the number of people paying above even $200 is relatively low until it becomes some sort of grail.
Edit- im all for increasing the print runs though
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Pittsburgh 2013 Cincinnati 2014 Greenville 2016 (Raleigh 2016) Columbia 2016
It's a free world... it is what it is and there isn't much you or I can do about it
Again, I think the solution is adding quantity and upping the price
When neil young plays a small venue... if you want 5th row it costs $275... which I have no problem with, because it gives me the chance to buy it directly from the onsale and give that $ to the artist instead of some guy sitting in his underpants on the couch making more than Neil on his own ticket.... same here, I would rather pay Brad $200 and likely get a print I want, making sure he gets all the money, instead of a flipper making more than Brad on his own print
Raising the quantity wouldn't be a bad thing. But raising the price won't solve the issue. The flippers will just buy the more expensive posters/prints, then causing the people who missed out to pay more on the secondary market. Just look at the Wrigley posters/prints that Faile sold at extremely high prices. It didn't stop the flippers from buying them and putting them up for sale at huge mark-ups.
If the bands would let the artist do a timed sell, where you have a day or two, or whatever to order, that would cut down on the issues a lot.
15 of the AP's that went on sale today have already sold on eBay. 6 more are for sale.
So.....exactly 21% of the people to buy this print are straight up flippers.
I'm sure there are some that bought it with the intention to trade down the road.
Not really sure what this proves, if anything. I guess 20% isn't that horrible. It does amaze me that people are selling items they don't even have yet....
So, how many people that DIDN'T attend the show buy these posters?
Too many "collectors" that want everything even if they weren't there
Are we really knocking people for buying a print for a show that they did not attend?
I'm not knocking anything or anybody... just pointing out why posters for shows with an attendance of 3,000 sell out in 30 seconds like 30,000 people were there
People can buy what they want... sell what they want... trade what they want... doesn't bother me at all... we own several posters ourselves and have several framed and hanging
What bothers me is they watch this year after year and don't seem to increase print runs or at least the artist print runs... a lot of PJ fans are insane collectors at this point, or flippers, so the least that should happen is 200 prints for the artist... and I would have no issue with artists like Brad selling their PJ/EV prints for $200
I only recently got the bug of buying concert posters as art, and I have all of them displayed. I particularly like getting A/P, of which I have 3.
After the last Mystery Box sale, I did notice that a lot of fans only buy merchandise to use as currency for other trades, which also feeds into the market of buying items for non-attended shows. I'm cool with that too, as it eventually stays within reach of fan's wallets.
It's a free world... it is what it is and there isn't much you or I can do about it
Again, I think the solution is adding quantity and upping the price
When neil young plays a small venue... if you want 5th row it costs $275... which I have no problem with, because it gives me the chance to buy it directly from the onsale and give that $ to the artist instead of some guy sitting in his underpants on the couch making more than Neil on his own ticket.... same here, I would rather pay Brad $200 and likely get a print I want, making sure he gets all the money, instead of a flipper making more than Brad on his own print
They ran the presses on the pj posters in 2016. Even Fenway/Wrigley had more than the regular tour.
This poster mayham is normal, it happens no matter what tour. Eventually another cool one comes out and knocks the next one out. It's just about what people like and if they let the storm calm and feeding frenzy slow down, they'll get what they want when people realize they're not going to get those ridiculous prices they want. Been some nice posters this tour but there are still a lot of other great ones out there from the past that exist, AND, more shows to come and I'm pretty sure a U.S. tour will follow eventually. Tour time is flipper paradise..... Just ride it out and you'll eventually get your hands on the one you like for a NORMAL PRICE, NOT WHAT SOMEONE PUTS UP FOR SALE CAUSE THEY THINK IT WILL ACTUALLY BE SOLD AT A RIDICULOUS COST. We've all been around this place for awhile now, it will never change.
1998 Dallas (7/5) 2006 San Fran (7/15,7/16) 2009 San Fran (8/28) 2010 Bristow (5/13) NY (5/21) 2011 Alpine Valley (9/3,9/4) 2012 Missoula (9/30) 2013 Chicago (7/19) Pittsburgh (10/11) Buffalo (10/12) Baltimore (10/27) Dallas (11/15) 2014 Austin (10/12) Memphis (10/14) St. Paul (10/19) Milwaukee (10/20) Denver (10/22) 2016 Ft. Lauderdale (4/8) Miami (4/9) Hampton (4/18) Philly (4/28,4/29) NY (5/1,5/2) 2018 Seattle (8/10) Missoula (8/13) 2022 Nashville (9/16) E.V. - 2008 Berkeley (4/8) 2012 Austin (11/9,11/12) Temple of the Dog - 2016 Upper Darby
This poster mayham is normal, it happens no matter what tour. Eventually another cool one comes out and knocks the next one out. It's just about what people like and if they let the storm calm and feeding frenzy slow down, they'll get what they want when people realize they're not going to get those ridiculous prices they want. Been some nice posters this tour but there are still a lot of other great ones out there from the past that exist, AND, more shows to come and I'm pretty sure a U.S. tour will follow eventually. Tour time is flipper paradise..... Just ride it out and you'll eventually get your hands on the one you like for a NORMAL PRICE, NOT WHAT SOMEONE PUTS UP FOR SALE CAUSE THEY THINK IT WILL ACTUALLY BE SOLD AT A RIDICULOUS COST. We've all been around this place for awhile now, it will never change.
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'98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
'00: Columbus: Polaris
'03: Columbus: Germain
'10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
'11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
'12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
'13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
'14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
'15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
'16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
'17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
'18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
'22: Nashville / St. Louis
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I don't see why anyone should have an issue with someone buying posters/prints from shows they didn't attend, unless it's for the purpose of flipping it right away.
feeling "lucky" this week. after scoring a Pittides was doubtful on a Mumford. managed to get one (yay!). looking forward to framing both.
I'm not knocking anything or anybody... just pointing out why posters for shows with an attendance of 3,000 sell out in 30 seconds like 30,000 people were there
People can buy what they want... sell what they want... trade what they want... doesn't bother me at all... we own several posters ourselves and have several framed and hanging
What bothers me is they watch this year after year and don't seem to increase print runs or at least the artist print runs... a lot of PJ fans are insane collectors at this point, or flippers, so the least that should happen is 200 prints for the artist... and I would have no issue with artists like Brad selling their PJ/EV prints for $200
Oh well it is what it is.
Might try for a trade now, only thing is, only have one poster that I think will get me a Mumford..........Crackerjack. Got it in the mystery poster sale.
Gonna have to think long and hard about this though........
Glasgow S.E.C.C. 2000
Shepherds Bush 2009 - M.E.N 2009 - London O2 2009
Boston 2010 - Newark 2010 - MSG1+2 2010 - Dublin 2010 - Belfast 2010
London 2010
Manchester 1+2 2012 EV Manchester 2012 EV London 31/7/2012
Philly 1+2 2013 - Hartford 2013
Berlin 2014 Leeds 2014
Fenway 2 2016
EV London 1+2 2017
London 1+2 - Berlin 2018
I only recently got the bug of buying concert posters as art, and I have all of them displayed. I particularly like getting A/P, of which I have 3.
After the last Mystery Box sale, I did notice that a lot of fans only buy merchandise to use as currency for other trades, which also feeds into the market of buying items for non-attended shows. I'm cool with that too, as it eventually stays within reach of fan's wallets.
Again, I think the solution is adding quantity and upping the price
When neil young plays a small venue... if you want 5th row it costs $275... which I have no problem with, because it gives me the chance to buy it directly from the onsale and give that $ to the artist instead of some guy sitting in his underpants on the couch making more than Neil on his own ticket.... same here, I would rather pay Brad $200 and likely get a print I want, making sure he gets all the money, instead of a flipper making more than Brad on his own print
Absolutely!!!!
'98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
'00: Columbus: Polaris
'03: Columbus: Germain
'10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
'11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
'12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
'13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
'14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
'15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
'16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
'17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
'18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
'22: Nashville / St. Louis
http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=170
Edit- im all for increasing the print runs though
Cincinnati 2014
Greenville 2016
(Raleigh 2016)
Columbia 2016
If the bands would let the artist do a timed sell, where you have a day or two, or whatever to order, that would cut down on the issues a lot.
Edit correction* Wrigley had Faile, not Fenway.
Thanks a lot!
I will razz her for sure for costing me some posters.
So.....exactly 21% of the people to buy this print are straight up flippers.
I'm sure there are some that bought it with the intention to trade down the road.
Not really sure what this proves, if anything. I guess 20% isn't that horrible. It does amaze me that people are selling items they don't even have yet....
2012 Missoula (9/30) 2013 Chicago (7/19) Pittsburgh (10/11) Buffalo (10/12) Baltimore (10/27) Dallas (11/15)
2014 Austin (10/12) Memphis (10/14) St. Paul (10/19) Milwaukee (10/20) Denver (10/22)
2016 Ft. Lauderdale (4/8) Miami (4/9) Hampton (4/18) Philly (4/28,4/29) NY (5/1,5/2) 2018 Seattle (8/10) Missoula (8/13) 2022 Nashville (9/16)
E.V. - 2008 Berkeley (4/8) 2012 Austin (11/9,11/12)
Temple of the Dog - 2016 Upper Darby