I AM THE 400lb IDIOT

boxorbag

First of all I would like to say that pearl jam saved my life in 94'. I can honestly say I would not be here today if it was not for them. Pearl Jams music has been a huge part of my life for close to 15 yrs now. I have been to 7 concerts and 5 Ed solo shows and have never had a situation like this happen to me. I can not believe the hundreds of posts I have read making me out to be a monster. I was going to try and defend myself but I can see that it is futile now. I will admit I had alot to drink that night. I will admit I was singing loudly. These are some of my favorite songs. Seeing Eddie sing them live is very emotional for me. I remember being told by the people next to me not to sing and they complained to security. About 20 min later security said they wanted to talk to me. The people around me assumed I was being kicked out. I was brought up to the top and told that the people next to me were complaining about my singing and to go back to my seat and sit there quietly. When I returned to the seat the guy next to me could not believe they let me back in. We did argue about why he had to have me kicked out. I do understand how he must have felt. If I had someone who was drunk kicked out (as he thought) I would not want him coming back to sit next to me knowing full well I was the one who did it. After this I noticed security coming down to check on me I sat in my seat and did not say anything. I just slumped forward and tried not to bother anyone. Someone behind me went back to complain that I should not have been let back in. About 10 min later security came back again and said I had to leave. I told them I did what they told me to do and was trying not to bother anyone and that I was not singing. They said lets go. I said I was not leaving and they would have to carry me out. They did. When they got me to the top they stood me up and told me I had to leave. I asked them why they were kicking me out after I was trying not to bother anyone. They said the people around me could not stand my singing and they had too many complaints. I left. I do remember hitting the chair in front of me during far behind when Ed was jamming on the guitar. I was hitting on the top of the chair rocking out but by no means trying purposly upset the person in front of me. If she told me to stop and I just hit it harder like someone posted then I did not hear her. When she did tell me to stop I told her I was sorry and stopped. To the person who was next to me who pointed out on here that I started singing loudly as soon as the show started. Could that have been when Ed was playing Sometimes? I believe the whole place was singing loudly. I believe this all started in the beginning of the show with me singing. I tried to control it but had too much to drink and could not. Songs like Sometimes, Trouble, Setting Forth, Guaranteed, Elderly Women, Millworker and Gone were too much. When security let me back in I managed to sit through Hide Your Love Away and Porch quietly before they carried me out. I wish to God that they never let me back in. I know the people around me wish they had not also. There are alot of people posting alot of hurtful things on here some true some untrue and some that are purely ridiculous. There are people trying to get my adress so they can kick my ass, making fun of my weight and even posting my name. There are alot of bandwagon jumpers who were not anywhere near where this happened. I did argue with the people next to me about them trying to kick me out. I did point out I spent alot of money also. I would never try to purposly ruin any fellow fans time. I never tried to hit anyone around me. If someone around me got hit accidentally when I was being caried out then I am truly sorry. I am not a violent person. I am sorry to the people around me if you felt threatened. As I recal the argument was along the lines of why the f*** are you trying to get me kicked out and why can't you leave me the f*** alone and never I am going to kick your a** or your girlfriends a** as some people are posting. If people read through the posts they will see how the telephone game is alive and well. Someone who was there posts about me swearing at the people next to me turns into me trying to beat up someones girlfriend. To all the people around me and especially the people next me I would like to offer a heartfelt apoligy. This behavior was completely out of character for me. As some friends I met at the pre-party pointed out I am a nice guy. It makes me sick knowing I took away from what should have been a great experience for all of us. To try and make something positive out of this I would like to donate 100$ to a charity of your choice (Row E seats 3&4) I will say Alcholics Anonymous before everyone jumps on it. I am just trying to give my side of the story. I am not trying to make excuses. The fact of the matter is I was drunk and not acting rationally. My stupidity was fueled by being told what to do by my peers who were justified. I wonder if anyone else has ever had too much to drink and acted like an idiot. If they did then they know how I feel now. Again I am sorry to all at Milwaukee. P.S. I was 263lb this morning and I am 32

EquallyWorthless

Takes a big man to come on here and apologize when so many people have been bashing you on here, I commend you for that, and yeah I can't speak for everyone but I know that I have definitely have had to much to drink and done stupid things and acted like an idiot. Its unfortunate but it happens.

patrickredeyes

boxorbag wrote:

To try and make something positive out of this I would like to donate 100$ to a charity of your choice

http://www.companionanimal.org/index.htm

dunkman

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EquallyWorthless

dunkman wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paragraph

I must admit it was a tough read.

LukinFan

dunkman wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paragraph

thank you!

jhinkle1114

EquallyWorthless wrote:

I must admit it was a tough read.

No shit.

He needs to make another donation to apologize for that atrocity of a post.

Enter key motherfucker! Push it!

iwasthere

I was 2 rows behind you. Far as I'm concerned there were 50 other boneheads in the audience that night just as bad. Wish the entire thing wouldn't have happened but once it did, I was rater impressed with your exit. Whereas you were out of line, I feel certain that the security guards were probably trying to play up the situation as much as they could too. Wish you would have left 10club out of it though!

By the way, I'm sure there are much better organizations to donate money to than AA. Alcohol related charities. Have you seen the AA episode of South Park? As someone who has dealt with them directly, I would say they were dead on with their portrayal.

iwasthere

I thought 400 lbs was a little much.

dunkman

just be thankful that concert wasnt in Glasgow as you'd still be in surgery trying to remove the shoes from your face

Cropdust Captain

LOL great thread title

All we need now is "I AM THE PISSER" and "I AM LIL' MOOKIE"

nukeboot

I didn't know what had happened, but good post and apology.

I'm sort of glad I didn't do one of the solo shows. Sounds too much like a symphony for me.

hasigawa

I say take the $100 and buy people ear plugs........complain about a guy singing at an Eddie or PJ show? how pretencious are we getting.....

Now onto u my friend.......sober up and don't be an a$$ next time.........singing is cool at shows but don't be a jerk about it. I commend u for coming on here and apologizing as it's stand up in my book while the others all hide behind a keyboard and post crap and complain to security instead of talking to u in a nice way........however next time, go have fun and be respectful of ur fellow jammers!

Touchofgray16

EquallyWorthless wrote:

I must admit it was a tough read.

Yes, I agree. I stayed with it and believed I saw something genuine - if, of course, it is in fact, the person in question. Otherwise a very good impersonator.


No offense, OP, if you are real - good for you...I yelled a couple of times. Whoo hoo !!! Is that bad ? Yeah, I guess it is depending on when or where you are, but I was compellled. It is, after all, just rock and roll, but I like it.

norm

"fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son"


good of you to man up....although personally the 'i was drunk' is really a poor excuse because you got yourself that drunk but hey you came here and took responsibility for you actions....very few people today do that

pj.uw.laura

The OP sounds pretty genuine, and it's unfortunate that people were posting things that appear to be untrue.

It still pisses me off, though, that a night with our favorite guy in an intimate setting was tainted by several people who can use the "I was drunk" excuse.

FinsburyParkCarrots

This would make a great Jerry Springer show episode, with that title.

brainofPJ

EquallyWorthless wrote:

Takes a big man to come on here and
apologize

oh burn!

Foxy Mop

boxorbag wrote:

First of all I would like to say that pearl jam saved my life in 94'. I can honestly say I would not be here today if it was not for them. Pearl Jams music has been a huge part of my life for close to 15 yrs now. I have been to 7 concerts and 5 Ed solo shows and have never had a situation like this happen to me. I can not believe the hundreds of posts I have read making me out to be a monster. I was going to try and defend myself but I can see that it is futile now. I will admit I had alot to drink that night. I will admit I was singing loudly. These are some of my favorite songs. Seeing Eddie sing them live is very emotional for me. I remember being told by the people next to me not to sing and they complained to security. About 20 min later security said they wanted to talk to me. The people around me assumed I was being kicked out. I was brought up to the top and told that the people next to me were complaining about my singing and to go back to my seat and sit there quietly. When I returned to the seat the guy next to me could not believe they let me back in. We did argue about why he had to have me kicked out. I do understand how he must have felt. If I had someone who was drunk kicked out (as he thought) I would not want him coming back to sit next to me knowing full well I was the one who did it. After this I noticed security coming down to check on me I sat in my seat and did not say anything. I just slumped forward and tried not to bother anyone. Someone behind me went back to complain that I should not have been let back in. About 10 min later security came back again and said I had to leave. I told them I did what they told me to do and was trying not to bother anyone and that I was not singing. They said lets go. I said I was not leaving and they would have to carry me out. They did. When they got me to the top they stood me up and told me I had to leave. I asked them why they were kicking me out after I was trying not to bother anyone. They said the people around me could not stand my singing and they had too many complaints. I left. I do remember hitting the chair in front of me during far behind when Ed was jamming on the guitar. I was hitting on the top of the chair rocking out but by no means trying purposly upset the person in front of me. If she told me to stop and I just hit it harder like someone posted then I did not hear her. When she did tell me to stop I told her I was sorry and stopped. To the person who was next to me who pointed out on here that I started singing loudly as soon as the show started. Could that have been when Ed was playing Sometimes? I believe the whole place was singing loudly. I believe this all started in the beginning of the show with me singing. I tried to control it but had too much to drink and could not. Songs like Sometimes, Trouble, Setting Forth, Guaranteed, Elderly Women, Millworker and Gone were too much. When security let me back in I managed to sit through Hide Your Love Away and Porch quietly before they carried me out. I wish to God that they never let me back in. I know the people around me wish they had not also. There are alot of people posting alot of hurtful things on here some true some untrue and some that are purely ridiculous. There are people trying to get my adress so they can kick my ass, making fun of my weight and even posting my name. There are alot of bandwagon jumpers who were not anywhere near where this happened. I did argue with the people next to me about them trying to kick me out. I did point out I spent alot of money also. I would never try to purposly ruin any fellow fans time. I never tried to hit anyone around me. If someone around me got hit accidentally when I was being caried out then I am truly sorry. I am not a violent person. I am sorry to the people around me if you felt threatened. As I recal the argument was along the lines of why the f*** are you trying to get me kicked out and why can't you leave me the f*** alone and never I am going to kick your a** or your girlfriends a** as some people are posting. If people read through the posts they will see how the telephone game is alive and well. Someone who was there posts about me swearing at the people next to me turns into me trying to beat up someones girlfriend. To all the people around me and especially the people next me I would like to offer a heartfelt apoligy. This behavior was completely out of character for me. As some friends I met at the pre-party pointed out I am a nice guy. It makes me sick knowing I took away from what should have been a great experience for all of us. To try and make something positive out of this I would like to donate 100$ to a charity of your choice (Row E seats 3&4) I will say Alcholics Anonymous before everyone jumps on it. I am just trying to give my side of the story. I am not trying to make excuses. The fact of the matter is I was drunk and not acting rationally. My stupidity was fueled by being told what to do by my peers who were justified. I wonder if anyone else has ever had too much to drink and acted like an idiot. If they did then they know how I feel now. Again I am sorry to all at Milwaukee. P.S. I was 263lb this morning and I am 32

It really sucks that you may have possibly ruined the show for the people around you. If this was Milwaukee, you weren't the only one. However, it's also commendable to come on here, admit your mistakes and apologize for it.

Having been on both sides of line, I can say that a lot of the people here on the Pit can be very judgmental, mean and condemn without all the facts - after all, it's just words on a screen and there's no consequence to their posts. But remember that... they're just words typed on here by ignorant people. You know what really happened. You feel regret and want to make restitution. That's all that really matters. Forget the haters and pay it forward. Most of the people here are nice and realize we all f* up one time or another. Learn from this error and move on

jervin007

I wasn't there, but its great of you to apologize.

rizzdaddy

Fuck you dumb ass. You should have just stopped when the fan asked you in the first place, you could hear the people singing behind you pretty easily, I can see why they were annoyed.

gischick

Apologizing here was a decent thing to do. I wish the folks who ruined the show I went to would do that. Anyway, just remember that singing in a 20000 seat arena is way different than singing in a small theater. It shouldn't be a big deal but when the person next to you can't hear the person on stage because of the singing it becomes a big problem.

qpdpj

Hey there buddy! I am sure you remember me and my wife. We met you in milwaukee and hung out before the show and I ran into you at the chicago shows and had a couple after at Emmitts. I think you know who I am. I will say this, this is a good guy who just loves this band and was treated unfairly on this board. I was at three shows and spent some time with him and I know how truly sorry he is and was. I was a little shocked when they kicked him out and felt bad. Most of us there had probably had too many. He was just getting into this show. We both talked at the bar before milwaukee and we were so estatic we couldny even stand it. So "S" I truly enjoyed your company and I know you would do nothing to ever disrupt the community. It was a pleasure to meet you and hope we will see each other at another show. So much fun!

ottje

I think the phrase is drink responsibly? come on now, I get having a couple of drinks, but really? Nice to see you can own it. Good luck, maybe donate the money to Veterans, hey as we all know... "nothing is too good for a veteran"...

IwasBit10

First of all, props for coming clean and admitting your mistakes big man. And you certainly aren't alone in terms of getting drunk and making bad decisions. But with that said, judging from how much Eddie and the band mean to you, wouldn't you maybe try and take it easy at these shows? Ya know, outta respect for him, the other fans that Eddie means a lot to, and for yourself? I'm sure the show would've been just as meaningful, and certainly more enjoyable, if ya drink a bit less before, then gave er hard after of course.

TheLostSoul

what happened to your "enter" key?

F5

Thats great you apologized. We all make mistakes and It takes a big person to admit they're wrong. Rather than the $100 I think a commitment to attend all PJ/Eddie shows sober from here on out should suffice.

haffajappa

boxorbag wrote:

First of all I would like to say that pearl jam saved my life in 94'. I can honestly say I would not be here today if it was not for them. Pearl Jams music has been a huge part of my life for close to 15 yrs now. I have been to 7 concerts and 5 Ed solo shows and have never had a situation like this happen to me. I can not believe the hundreds of posts I have read making me out to be a monster. I was going to try and defend myself but I can see that it is futile now. I will admit I had alot to drink that night. I will admit I was singing loudly. These are some of my favorite songs. Seeing Eddie sing them live is very emotional for me. I remember being told by the people next to me not to sing and they complained to security. About 20 min later security said they wanted to talk to me. The people around me assumed I was being kicked out. I was brought up to the top and told that the people next to me were complaining about my singing and to go back to my seat and sit there quietly. When I returned to the seat the guy next to me could not believe they let me back in. We did argue about why he had to have me kicked out. I do understand how he must have felt. If I had someone who was drunk kicked out (as he thought) I would not want him coming back to sit next to me knowing full well I was the one who did it. After this I noticed security coming down to check on me I sat in my seat and did not say anything. I just slumped forward and tried not to bother anyone. Someone behind me went back to complain that I should not have been let back in. About 10 min later security came back again and said I had to leave. I told them I did what they told me to do and was trying not to bother anyone and that I was not singing. They said lets go. I said I was not leaving and they would have to carry me out. They did. When they got me to the top they stood me up and told me I had to leave. I asked them why they were kicking me out after I was trying not to bother anyone. They said the people around me could not stand my singing and they had too many complaints. I left. I do remember hitting the chair in front of me during far behind when Ed was jamming on the guitar. I was hitting on the top of the chair rocking out but by no means trying purposly upset the person in front of me. If she told me to stop and I just hit it harder like someone posted then I did not hear her. When she did tell me to stop I told her I was sorry and stopped. To the person who was next to me who pointed out on here that I started singing loudly as soon as the show started. Could that have been when Ed was playing Sometimes? I believe the whole place was singing loudly. I believe this all started in the beginning of the show with me singing. I tried to control it but had too much to drink and could not. Songs like Sometimes, Trouble, Setting Forth, Guaranteed, Elderly Women, Millworker and Gone were too much. When security let me back in I managed to sit through Hide Your Love Away and Porch quietly before they carried me out. I wish to God that they never let me back in. I know the people around me wish they had not also. There are alot of people posting alot of hurtful things on here some true some untrue and some that are purely ridiculous. There are people trying to get my adress so they can kick my ass, making fun of my weight and even posting my name. There are alot of bandwagon jumpers who were not anywhere near where this happened. I did argue with the people next to me about them trying to kick me out. I did point out I spent alot of money also. I would never try to purposly ruin any fellow fans time. I never tried to hit anyone around me. If someone around me got hit accidentally when I was being caried out then I am truly sorry. I am not a violent person. I am sorry to the people around me if you felt threatened. As I recal the argument was along the lines of why the f*** are you trying to get me kicked out and why can't you leave me the f*** alone and never I am going to kick your a** or your girlfriends a** as some people are posting. If people read through the posts they will see how the telephone game is alive and well. Someone who was there posts about me swearing at the people next to me turns into me trying to beat up someones girlfriend. To all the people around me and especially the people next me I would like to offer a heartfelt apoligy. This behavior was completely out of character for me. As some friends I met at the pre-party pointed out I am a nice guy. It makes me sick knowing I took away from what should have been a great experience for all of us. To try and make something positive out of this I would like to donate 100$ to a charity of your choice (Row E seats 3&4) I will say Alcholics Anonymous before everyone jumps on it. I am just trying to give my side of the story. I am not trying to make excuses. The fact of the matter is I was drunk and not acting rationally. My stupidity was fueled by being told what to do by my peers who were justified. I wonder if anyone else has ever had too much to drink and acted like an idiot. If they did then they know how I feel now. Again I am sorry to all at Milwaukee. P.S. I was 263lb this morning and I am 32

i've got three things to say to that: dublin, st. paddys, wrong country's national anthem.

and i can assure you many people on this board can attest to that
and i'm sorry to you all!

in seriousness though, big of you to apologise and i hope everyone gets over it...

ScottZeagle

Look at the bright side, big man...

at least you don't owe another forum member $150 for tickets, and you didn't go to Disney instead of paying.

And honestly, the whole "Wait, I'm a 10C member" part made me laugh.

bword

Good on you, Young Man!!! Hey who hasn't had just a little too much fun at a show?? Sometimes booze, excitement and your fav band send you into overdrive.

I know it must have really sucked for the people around you but I don't see it being fun for you either. Surely your self loathing was enough and you really didn't need to endure the unkind words of others.

I remember, well no not really, a Grateful Dead show in Rochester, NY. I was soooooo excited and the bus ride from Hamilton Ontario to Rochester was just a wee bit too long. All I recall is 2 songs and my friend, who took care of me, ended up missing the show too. It was one of my biggest disappointments and embarrassments but I learned from it. I paid for my pals ticket to the next Dead show and I have never been as wasted at a show since!!!

All you can do is make your amends, learn from it and carry on!! Maybe we'll see you on tour :-)

maak

mitchmoore2 wrote:

Thats great you apologized. We all make mistakes and It takes a big person to admit they're wrong. Rather than the $100 I think a commitment to attend all PJ/Eddie shows sober from here on out should suffice.

So if he is to attend all eddie/pj shows sober, can we assume that he can bitch about eddie when he gets too drunk at shows and fucks up the words to songs?

I dont understand the big deal, I was at the show and yeah these people were annoying but after all it is Rock and roll and not tiddleywinks. So let eveyone expresss their love for pearl jam in whatever way they want.