lol i could care less on how either HRC or Melania react to their husbands infidelity it's none of my bussiness and i will never criticize them for not acting or filing for divorce that's on them ....
I agree. Women - feminists or otherwise - are not obligated to end their marriages because of infidelity, and I have no clue where anyone got that idea. I am, however, critical of Melania for staying with Trump when she is clearly miserable and hates the man's guts. Wtf is she doing? Why is she staying when things are they way they so obviously are for her? I have to assume it's because she's a money whore. There is no other logical explanation for it. And the reason that bothers me now is because it kind of serves to validate Trump, at least in a vague way.
can you imagine a divorce while he is POTUS? it would be an absolute shit-show of epic proportions... I wouldn't be leaving just yet either, she doesn't even have to see the man at this point anyway
Well that certainly wouldn't stop me if I were her. I mean, I'm sure they have a pretty rock solid prenup, so I don't see why it would be a bigger shit show than anything else is right now. I mean, if she can handle the whole Stormy Daniels thing, then I'm sure she could handle a divorce... Would anyone even give a shit? I feel like it would be the least surprising thing to happen in Trump's entire term. And yes, she does have to see him. She has to stand there in utter humiliation every time they have to make a public appearance together. The reason I critique her for not leaving him is precisely because any woman willing to do what she's currently doing much have ZERO self-respect. It's horrible to watch.
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I would guess that most of the people who are so quick to suggest or expect that someone should divorce their spouse have not been through a divorce. It is a very painful process, regardless of the reason.
I'm pretty well versed in the matter, and said what I said. Many, many people get divorced. It's not as unfathomable a thing to do as you just seemed to suggest. I mean, when the husband is being sued by the porn star he fucked while she was pregnant, has been accused of sexual assault or rape by 17+ women, is going completely insane in front of the entire world, and is generally totally unhinged on a daily basis, and when she is clearly absolutely miserable and loathe to be anywhere near him, don't you think those all come together as a pretty legit reason to suggest that a divorce is well in order? If not, what would it take in your opinion? Him actually murdering someone in front of witnesses?
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lol i could care less on how either HRC or Melania react to their husbands infidelity it's none of my bussiness and i will never criticize them for not acting or filing for divorce that's on them ....
I agree. Women - feminists or otherwise - are not obligated to end their marriages because of infidelity, and I have no clue where anyone got that idea. I am, however, critical of Melania for staying with Trump when she is clearly miserable and hates the man's guts. Wtf is she doing? Why is she staying when things are they way they so obviously are for her? I have to assume it's because she's a money whore. There is no other logical explanation for it. And the reason that bothers me now is because it kind of serves to validate Trump, at least in a vague way.
can you imagine a divorce while he is POTUS? it would be an absolute shit-show of epic proportions... I wouldn't be leaving just yet either, she doesn't even have to see the man at this point anyway
Well that certainly wouldn't stop me if I were her. I mean, I'm sure they have a pretty rock solid prenup, so I don't see why it would be a bigger shit show than anything else is right now. I mean, if she can handle the whole Stormy Daniels thing, then I'm sure she could handle a divorce... Would anyone even give a shit? I feel like it would be the least surprising thing to happen in Trump's entire term. And yes, she does have to see him. She has to stand there in utter humiliation every time they have to make a public appearance together. The reason I critique her for not leaving him is precisely because any woman willing to do what she's currently doing much have ZERO self-respect. It's horrible to watch.
you're not her. you have no idea what it would be like, nor what you would do if in those shoes. none of us can judge her. we can all joke about her getting what she deserved for being a money grubbing mail order bride, but none of us truly know.
lol i could care less on how either HRC or Melania react to their husbands infidelity it's none of my bussiness and i will never criticize them for not acting or filing for divorce that's on them ....
I agree. Women - feminists or otherwise - are not obligated to end their marriages because of infidelity, and I have no clue where anyone got that idea. I am, however, critical of Melania for staying with Trump when she is clearly miserable and hates the man's guts. Wtf is she doing? Why is she staying when things are they way they so obviously are for her? I have to assume it's because she's a money whore. There is no other logical explanation for it. And the reason that bothers me now is because it kind of serves to validate Trump, at least in a vague way.
can you imagine a divorce while he is POTUS? it would be an absolute shit-show of epic proportions... I wouldn't be leaving just yet either, she doesn't even have to see the man at this point anyway
Well that certainly wouldn't stop me if I were her. I mean, I'm sure they have a pretty rock solid prenup, so I don't see why it would be a bigger shit show than anything else is right now. I mean, if she can handle the whole Stormy Daniels thing, then I'm sure she could handle a divorce... Would anyone even give a shit? I feel like it would be the least surprising thing to happen in Trump's entire term. And yes, she does have to see him. She has to stand there in utter humiliation every time they have to make a public appearance together. The reason I critique her for not leaving him is precisely because any woman willing to do what she's currently doing much have ZERO self-respect. It's horrible to watch.
you're not her. you have no idea what it would be like, nor what you would do if in those shoes. none of us can judge her. we can all joke about her getting what she deserved for being a money grubbing mail order bride, but none of us truly know.
I'm not her?!?! Whaaat?!?! You're kidding!! I'm just stating my opinion on the matter, obviously, and yes, I can judge her if I want to judge her. Why in the world shouldn't I? Unless you're saying you've never judged anyone in your entire life for anything and that nobody else should either, I don't know how you can say that. But I absolutely 100% do know what I would do if I were in her shoes, assuming her life isn't being threatened if she leaves. That isn't an impossible thing to know about myself. Weird comment. I never said she's getting what she deserved. I don't think that at all. Nobody deserves Trump's bullshit. And I don't think it's a joking matter in any way. It's one of the least funny things I've ever seen.
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Melania was obviously attracted to Donald's great personality, deep levels of empathy, sense of humour, communication skills and strong, athletic manliness.
The fact that he had a ton of cash likely meant very little (or nothing) to her with all those great attributes going for the guy.
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Buh, buh, buh Hillary. Team Trump Treason has been in office now for over a year now. But will hear about Hillary’s ghost long after she’s passed. They’ll 3D hologram her to run against her and avoid responsibility.
You and you knee jerk reaction isn’t warranted here. Perhaps instead of working on your next clever retort you can read and understand.
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He's not the only one. You have some good posts H2M, but you get a little carried away on the whole Russia thing. Cincy is one of the more level headed and solid contributors here.
Carried away by "the whole Russia thing?" How so? I remember how some posters on here were claiming that it was all sour grapes over a failed election and that the brilliant headlines would be disappearing soon, that Team Trump Treason would solidify his support, sweep the mid terms and be a shoo in for re-election. And despite all that we know, that we didn't know before, some posters would rather bring up Hillary and not be concerned/offended by Team Trump Treason. I've been saying from day one he'll be impeached, not because of sour grapes over an election, but because the fucking guy is compromised and colluded with the Russians to throw an election. I listened to two years of Benghazi, 2 years of White Water, Uranium 1, emails, poor Bernie Sanders and the butt hurt Bernie Bros for ages now and yet, yet, yet, yet, not one indictment. For fucks christ 17 repubes just nominated Team Trump Treason for a Nobel with absolutely nothing to show for it other than pomp and circumstance, daily bullying behavior and 6.5 lies or mistruths told everyday. Buh, buh, buh lets discuss Hillary's marriage.
Follow the money, from Russia with love and a Ptape, all the way to impeachment, because its happening.
Cincy is clearly entitled to his opinion. Nothing personal.
I for one like that you post all the info on this corrupt administration , thanks ..
Not only corrupt but incompetent and reckless. This is long and in depth but read it through and then really think about what it means. Without conjuring up Hillary.
Buh, buh, buh Hillary. Team Trump Treason has been in office now for over a year now. But will hear about Hillary’s ghost long after she’s passed. They’ll 3D hologram her to run against her and avoid responsibility.
You and you knee jerk reaction isn’t warranted here. Perhaps instead of working on your next clever retort you can read and understand.
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He's not the only one. You have some good posts H2M, but you get a little carried away on the whole Russia thing. Cincy is one of the more level headed and solid contributors here.
Carried away by "the whole Russia thing?" How so? I remember how some posters on here were claiming that it was all sour grapes over a failed election and that the brilliant headlines would be disappearing soon, that Team Trump Treason would solidify his support, sweep the mid terms and be a shoo in for re-election. And despite all that we know, that we didn't know before, some posters would rather bring up Hillary and not be concerned/offended by Team Trump Treason. I've been saying from day one he'll be impeached, not because of sour grapes over an election, but because the fucking guy is compromised and colluded with the Russians to throw an election. I listened to two years of Benghazi, 2 years of White Water, Uranium 1, emails, poor Bernie Sanders and the butt hurt Bernie Bros for ages now and yet, yet, yet, yet, not one indictment. For fucks christ 17 repubes just nominated Team Trump Treason for a Nobel with absolutely nothing to show for it other than pomp and circumstance, daily bullying behavior and 6.5 lies or mistruths told everyday. Buh, buh, buh lets discuss Hillary's marriage.
Follow the money, from Russia with love and a Ptape, all the way to impeachment, because its happening.
Cincy is clearly entitled to his opinion. Nothing personal.
I for one like that you post all the info on this corrupt administration , thanks ..
Buh, buh, buh Hillary. Team Trump Treason has been in office now for over a year now. But will hear about Hillary’s ghost long after she’s passed. They’ll 3D hologram her to run against her and avoid responsibility.
You and you knee jerk reaction isn’t warranted here. Perhaps instead of working on your next clever retort you can read and understand.
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He's not the only one. You have some good posts H2M, but you get a little carried away on the whole Russia thing. Cincy is one of the more level headed and solid contributors here.
Carried away by "the whole Russia thing?" How so? I remember how some posters on here were claiming that it was all sour grapes over a failed election and that the brilliant headlines would be disappearing soon, that Team Trump Treason would solidify his support, sweep the mid terms and be a shoo in for re-election. And despite all that we know, that we didn't know before, some posters would rather bring up Hillary and not be concerned/offended by Team Trump Treason. I've been saying from day one he'll be impeached, not because of sour grapes over an election, but because the fucking guy is compromised and colluded with the Russians to throw an election. I listened to two years of Benghazi, 2 years of White Water, Uranium 1, emails, poor Bernie Sanders and the butt hurt Bernie Bros for ages now and yet, yet, yet, yet, not one indictment. For fucks christ 17 repubes just nominated Team Trump Treason for a Nobel with absolutely nothing to show for it other than pomp and circumstance, daily bullying behavior and 6.5 lies or mistruths told everyday. Buh, buh, buh lets discuss Hillary's marriage.
Follow the money, from Russia with love and a Ptape, all the way to impeachment, because its happening.
Cincy is clearly entitled to his opinion. Nothing personal.
and to be clear I do believe they will follow the $ and the lies and trump will get his....
Buh, buh, buh Hillary. Team Trump Treason has been in office now for over a year now. But will hear about Hillary’s ghost long after she’s passed. They’ll 3D hologram her to run against her and avoid responsibility.
You and you knee jerk reaction isn’t warranted here. Perhaps instead of working on your next clever retort you can read and understand.
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He's not the only one. You have some good posts H2M, but you get a little carried away on the whole Russia thing. Cincy is one of the more level headed and solid contributors here.
Carried away by "the whole Russia thing?" How so? I remember how some posters on here were claiming that it was all sour grapes over a failed election and that the brilliant headlines would be disappearing soon, that Team Trump Treason would solidify his support, sweep the mid terms and be a shoo in for re-election. And despite all that we know, that we didn't know before, some posters would rather bring up Hillary and not be concerned/offended by Team Trump Treason. I've been saying from day one he'll be impeached, not because of sour grapes over an election, but because the fucking guy is compromised and colluded with the Russians to throw an election. I listened to two years of Benghazi, 2 years of White Water, Uranium 1, emails, poor Bernie Sanders and the butt hurt Bernie Bros for ages now and yet, yet, yet, yet, not one indictment. For fucks christ 17 repubes just nominated Team Trump Treason for a Nobel with absolutely nothing to show for it other than pomp and circumstance, daily bullying behavior and 6.5 lies or mistruths told everyday. Buh, buh, buh lets discuss Hillary's marriage.
Follow the money, from Russia with love and a Ptape, all the way to impeachment, because its happening.
Cincy is clearly entitled to his opinion. Nothing personal.
I for one like that you post all the info on this corrupt administration , thanks ..
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Hannity. He said he fired Comey because Comey wouldn’t tell him if he was a target of the investigation. Then he said Trump reimbursed Cohen the 130k hush money. Yikes
Hannity. He said he fired Comey because Comey wouldn’t tell him if he was a target of the investigation. Then he said Trump reimbursed Cohen the 130k hush money. Yikes
Their defense of Team Trump Treason boils down to buh buh buh buh Hillary.
Hannity. He said he fired Comey because Comey wouldn’t tell him if he was a target of the investigation. Then he said Trump reimbursed Cohen the 130k hush money. Yikes
Rudy sounds like he’s enjoying the spotlight again.
You'd think there'd be someone over there saying "EVERYONE! STOP GOING ON TV!"
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You'd think there'd be someone over there saying "EVERYONE! STOP GOING ON TV!"
It’s the only place they may get a victory, in the court of public opinion. But Team Mueller’s spear fishing should change that once the details are known. I took Caputo’s comments as sending a message to Team Trump Treason that he’s fucked while maintaining his loyalty. “We’ll see.”
Is this some sort of strategy I can’t figure out or is Giuliani that big of an idiot?
I think he just suffers from the same affliction Trump does, which is the false confidence you get from being surrounded by "yes men" for decades and having your opinions and moronic utterances go unchallenged. It's just like when Trump goes off script to say something infantile like "special Olympics are hard to watch, but I tried". He really really thinks that every single dumbass thought which passes through his cavernous skull has value. Giuliani isn't different, he just hasn't been "yessed" for quite as long.
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In the last five days we’ve learned that Trump: -said he fit 32,000 people into a 5,000 capacity arena, -forged his medical records, -and lied about knowing about the $130,000 hush money to a porn star
Sure! Let’s believe this guy about when he says “no collusion.” Very credible!
In the last five days we’ve learned that Trump: -said he fit 32,000 people into a 5,000 capacity arena, -forged his medical records, -and lied about knowing about the $130,000 hush money to a porn star
Sure! Let’s believe this guy about when he says “no collusion.” Very credible!
And he’s going to get North Korea to denuclearize and since all they’ve had is pomp and circumstances up to this point, 17 repubes have nominated him for the Nobel. The Republican Party and the evangelical wing have sold their souls.
In the last five days we’ve learned that Trump: -said he fit 32,000 people into a 5,000 capacity arena, -forged his medical records, -and lied about knowing about the $130,000 hush money to a porn star
Sure! Let’s believe this guy about when he says “no collusion.” Very credible!
And don’t forget, he blamed Tester for Ronny’s malfeasance despite Pence’s doctor raising red flags a year ago. Yea, let’s fight opioid abuse while my physician passes it out like candy and then nominate him to be surgeon general, without properly vetting him. Brilliant brilliance in all its brilliancy.
In the last five days we’ve learned that Trump: -said he fit 32,000 people into a 5,000 capacity arena, -forged his medical records, -and lied about knowing about the $130,000 hush money to a porn star
Sure! Let’s believe this guy about when he says “no collusion.” Very credible!
And he’s going to get North Korea to denuclearize and since all they’ve had is pomp and circumstances up to this point, 17 repubes have nominated him for the Nobel. The Republican Party and the evangelical wing have sold their souls.
The great hypocrisy.
There's also a level of narcissism found in much of the evangelical base- much like Trump... they think they are very special and often fail to see the error of their way given they think they do no wrong because of their special relationship with the lord.
Guiliani's interview on Fox and Friends and Hannity was just hysterical. He didn't "slip up" on this, it's their defense. It also shows they think the campaign finance issue is a big deal. Here are the bullets: 1. Trump reimbursed Cohen 2. Trump did it because he was worried about the damage to his "family" with another false accusation 3. Trump was still being honest when he said he had no idea. This is because he alleges that the money came out of Cohen's 35k per month retainer fee Obviously this is a pack of lies, but this appears to be the official story that they are going with. But of course this will likely not alleviate any campaign finance charges.
lol i could care less on how either HRC or Melania react to their husbands infidelity it's none of my bussiness and i will never criticize them for not acting or filing for divorce that's on them ....
I agree. Women - feminists or otherwise - are not obligated to end their marriages because of infidelity, and I have no clue where anyone got that idea. I am, however, critical of Melania for staying with Trump when she is clearly miserable and hates the man's guts. Wtf is she doing? Why is she staying when things are they way they so obviously are for her? I have to assume it's because she's a money whore. There is no other logical explanation for it. And the reason that bothers me now is because it kind of serves to validate Trump, at least in a vague way.
can you imagine a divorce while he is POTUS? it would be an absolute shit-show of epic proportions... I wouldn't be leaving just yet either, she doesn't even have to see the man at this point anyway
Well that certainly wouldn't stop me if I were her. I mean, I'm sure they have a pretty rock solid prenup, so I don't see why it would be a bigger shit show than anything else is right now. I mean, if she can handle the whole Stormy Daniels thing, then I'm sure she could handle a divorce... Would anyone even give a shit? I feel like it would be the least surprising thing to happen in Trump's entire term. And yes, she does have to see him. She has to stand there in utter humiliation every time they have to make a public appearance together. The reason I critique her for not leaving him is precisely because any woman willing to do what she's currently doing much have ZERO self-respect. It's horrible to watch.
you're not her. you have no idea what it would be like, nor what you would do if in those shoes. none of us can judge her. we can all joke about her getting what she deserved for being a money grubbing mail order bride, but none of us truly know.
I'm not her?!?! Whaaat?!?! You're kidding!! I'm just stating my opinion on the matter, obviously, and yes, I can judge her if I want to judge her. Why in the world shouldn't I? Unless you're saying you've never judged anyone in your entire life for anything and that nobody else should either, I don't know how you can say that. But I absolutely 100% do know what I would do if I were in her shoes, assuming her life isn't being threatened if she leaves. That isn't an impossible thing to know about myself. Weird comment. I never said she's getting what she deserved. I don't think that at all. Nobody deserves Trump's bullshit. And I don't think it's a joking matter in any way. It's one of the least funny things I've ever seen.
Guiliani's interview on Fox and Friends and Hannity was just hysterical. He didn't "slip up" on this, it's their defense. It also shows they think the campaign finance issue is a big deal. Here are the bullets: 1. Trump reimbursed Cohen 2. Trump did it because he was worried about the damage to his "family" with another false accusation 3. Trump was still being honest when he said he had no idea. This is because he alleges that the money came out of Cohen's 35k per month retainer fee Obviously this is a pack of lies, but this appears to be the official story that they are going with. But of course this will likely not alleviate any campaign finance charges.
After actually watching the interview, I agree. This was the best strategy they could come up with! :rofl
Guiliani's interview on Fox and Friends and Hannity was just hysterical. He didn't "slip up" on this, it's their defense. It also shows they think the campaign finance issue is a big deal. Here are the bullets: 1. Trump reimbursed Cohen 2. Trump did it because he was worried about the damage to his "family" with another false accusation 3. Trump was still being honest when he said he had no idea. This is because he alleges that the money came out of Cohen's 35k per month retainer fee Obviously this is a pack of lies, but this appears to be the official story that they are going with. But of course this will likely not alleviate any campaign finance charges.
After actually watching the interview, I agree. This was the best strategy they could come up with! :rofl
There are two holes in this argument: 1. How can Trump be concerned about his family, yet not be aware (or have instructed) Cohen to make the payment? 2. If it's being pulled from retainer, how many other agreements were signed on his behalf without his knowledge?
I actually thought this news was the most interesting of the night. The analogy used was great... the Senate is fishing with a net, Mueller is spear fishing..
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I'm just stating my opinion on the matter, obviously, and yes, I can judge her if I want to judge her. Why in the world shouldn't I? Unless you're saying you've never judged anyone in your entire life for anything and that nobody else should either, I don't know how you can say that.
But I absolutely 100% do know what I would do if I were in her shoes, assuming her life isn't being threatened if she leaves. That isn't an impossible thing to know about myself. Weird comment.
I never said she's getting what she deserved. I don't think that at all. Nobody deserves Trump's bullshit. And I don't think it's a joking matter in any way. It's one of the least funny things I've ever seen.
The fact that he had a ton of cash likely meant very little (or nothing) to her with all those great attributes going for the guy.
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It's just like when Trump goes off script to say something infantile like "special Olympics are hard to watch, but I tried". He really really thinks that every single dumbass thought which passes through his cavernous skull has value. Giuliani isn't different, he just hasn't been "yessed" for quite as long.
-said he fit 32,000 people into a 5,000 capacity arena,
-forged his medical records,
-and lied about knowing about the $130,000 hush money to a porn star
Sure! Let’s believe this guy about when he says “no collusion.” Very credible!
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The great hypocrisy.
There's also a level of narcissism found in much of the evangelical base- much like Trump... they think they are very special and often fail to see the error of their way given they think they do no wrong because of their special relationship with the lord.
1. Trump reimbursed Cohen
2. Trump did it because he was worried about the damage to his "family" with another false accusation
3. Trump was still being honest when he said he had no idea. This is because he alleges that the money came out of Cohen's 35k per month retainer fee
Obviously this is a pack of lies, but this appears to be the official story that they are going with. But of course this will likely not alleviate any campaign finance charges.
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This was the best strategy they could come up with!
:rofl
1. How can Trump be concerned about his family, yet not be aware (or have instructed) Cohen to make the payment?
2. If it's being pulled from retainer, how many other agreements were signed on his behalf without his knowledge?
The arguments test credulity.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/02/politics/michael-caputo-mueller-investigator/index.html