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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
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    benjs said:
    There's a lot of shit being stirred here, but one thing some people are neglecting is the fact that it legitimately took the ugliest (in character) person I can think of to wake numerous moderates up to the fact that the government does not speak for, nor is held accountable by, the people - unless it is convenient for the House & Senate Majority.

    I'll be criticized by speaking anecdotally, but there's an unprecedented amount of discussion about politics in my household, amongst my circle of friends and coworkers, and amongst their circles. While Trump hardly deserves credit for this level of political engagement (expressed through dissent and rage), he's certainly the catalyst for it. 

    I'm not sure if that's what BS is trying to say, but if he is, I agree with him.
    Bingo...add to that the collapse of the illusion that the elite, be it in politics, media, entertainment etc. know what is best and have things “under control”. They do not have things under control. They never did. It was never the end of history. The world was/is heading for disaster and Trump is a symptom of the awakening to that disaster.
    Ah yes

    The Republican war cry

    "Government is broken, elect us and we'll prove it."

    Let me introduce you to my friend PT Barnum. 
    Trump ran against that Republican war cry. Please try to keep up.
    And you and others were suckers to believe him.

    Also, these elites you speak of......Trump is not an elite? Has he not surrounded himself with elites? I think it's just you have a problem with the lefts kind of elites as opposed to the rights elites. Lets at least be honest.
    He sure is an elite. A phony elite who is as guilty as the rest of them. He is a vessel however that is willing to use his first hand knowledge of this bipartisan phoniness to blow a whole through the rest of them. 

    Right, that's exactly what he's doing. Draining the swamp, getting rid of privilege..... oh, wait; perhaps that's not quite true. 
    A day doesn’t go by without another creature of the swamp taking a fall. What none of us realized is that the swamp extended far beyond Washington DC.

    Really?  You didn't realize that predators and hypocrites existed outside of DC?  Are you new to this world?  Have you never worked in a corporation, or gone to church or had neighbors?  Glad this is a life epiphany for you.  
    Uhhhh....no. What I didn’t realize is that the phrase “drain the swamp” would be applied far beyond it’s initial intent. I am glad you concede that it’s draining though.

    And you think Trump is responsible?  You're delusional.  The #metoo movement was precipitated by the reporting of the Lamestream media, led by Ronan Farrow, not the Trumpists.  That was the first domino to fall.  Trump has done nothing but hurt the movement.  Quit being a shill.  You're better than that. 
    If Clinton won none of these stories would have been told. She would have protected Weinstein for he was one of her major doners. Once she lost the protection racket collapsed. I don’t “credit” Trump for that...it just happens to be an ancillary benefit to his destruction of illusions.
    That's total bullcrap.  How would this silencing have taken place?  Would Ronan Farrow been whacked?  Arrested, thrown in jail?  
    The right is full of these contradictions. Clinton is simultaneously ineffectual and all-powerful. Trump's lies uncover the truth. Pretty distasteful, though, that no credit is given to women who actually had to do the hard work of standing up, making these accusations, and dealing with the resulting flack. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,610
    mrussel1 said:
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    benjs said:
    There's a lot of shit being stirred here, but one thing some people are neglecting is the fact that it legitimately took the ugliest (in character) person I can think of to wake numerous moderates up to the fact that the government does not speak for, nor is held accountable by, the people - unless it is convenient for the House & Senate Majority.

    I'll be criticized by speaking anecdotally, but there's an unprecedented amount of discussion about politics in my household, amongst my circle of friends and coworkers, and amongst their circles. While Trump hardly deserves credit for this level of political engagement (expressed through dissent and rage), he's certainly the catalyst for it. 

    I'm not sure if that's what BS is trying to say, but if he is, I agree with him.
    Bingo...add to that the collapse of the illusion that the elite, be it in politics, media, entertainment etc. know what is best and have things “under control”. They do not have things under control. They never did. It was never the end of history. The world was/is heading for disaster and Trump is a symptom of the awakening to that disaster.
    Ah yes

    The Republican war cry

    "Government is broken, elect us and we'll prove it."

    Let me introduce you to my friend PT Barnum. 
    Trump ran against that Republican war cry. Please try to keep up.
    And you and others were suckers to believe him.

    Also, these elites you speak of......Trump is not an elite? Has he not surrounded himself with elites? I think it's just you have a problem with the lefts kind of elites as opposed to the rights elites. Lets at least be honest.
    He sure is an elite. A phony elite who is as guilty as the rest of them. He is a vessel however that is willing to use his first hand knowledge of this bipartisan phoniness to blow a whole through the rest of them. 

    Right, that's exactly what he's doing. Draining the swamp, getting rid of privilege..... oh, wait; perhaps that's not quite true. 
    A day doesn’t go by without another creature of the swamp taking a fall. What none of us realized is that the swamp extended far beyond Washington DC.

    Really?  You didn't realize that predators and hypocrites existed outside of DC?  Are you new to this world?  Have you never worked in a corporation, or gone to church or had neighbors?  Glad this is a life epiphany for you.  
    Uhhhh....no. What I didn’t realize is that the phrase “drain the swamp” would be applied far beyond it’s initial intent. I am glad you concede that it’s draining though.

    And you think Trump is responsible?  You're delusional.  The #metoo movement was precipitated by the reporting of the Lamestream media, led by Ronan Farrow, not the Trumpists.  That was the first domino to fall.  Trump has done nothing but hurt the movement.  Quit being a shill.  You're better than that. 
    If Clinton won none of these stories would have been told. She would have protected Weinstein for he was one of her major doners. Once she lost the protection racket collapsed. I don’t “credit” Trump for that...it just happens to be an ancillary benefit to his destruction of illusions.
    That's total bullcrap.  How would this silencing have taken place?  Would Ronan Farrow been whacked?  Arrested, thrown in jail?  
    The right is full of these contradictions. Clinton is simultaneously ineffectual and all-powerful. Trump's lies uncover the truth. Pretty distasteful, though, that no credit is given to women who actually had to do the hard work of standing up, making these accusations, and dealing with the resulting flack. 
    Perfectly crystallized.  The intellectually dishonest on the right has this unique ability for every event to validate their world view, no matter how contorted it leaves their logic.  Great comment.  
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Israel first, Saudis second then America just doesn't have the same run off your tongue ring as Make America Great Again

    H2M, When will Jared be behind bars? When you send the year long Russia thread to TEAM MUELLER please put a rush order on Kush.
  • JC29856 said:
    Israel first, Saudis second then America just doesn't have the same run off your tongue ring as Make America Great Again

    H2M, When will Jared be behind bars? When you send the year long Russia thread to TEAM MUELLER please put a rush order on Kush.
    do you understand due process?

    jared will be behind bars after he is indicted, arrested, arraigned, and then found guilty at trial. unless he makes a plea deal to avoid trial, where he will then be sentenced and transferred to jail. takes time.

    because people like you are taunting people like me asking when this will all happen, you need to realize that this takes time. you asking when it will happen seems like you are trying to wish it all away or something. this is going to happen in time. stop asking when.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:
    Israel first, Saudis second then America just doesn't have the same run off your tongue ring as Make America Great Again

    H2M, When will Jared be behind bars? When you send the year long Russia thread to TEAM MUELLER please put a rush order on Kush.
    do you understand due process?

    jared will be behind bars after he is indicted, arrested, arraigned, and then found guilty at trial. unless he makes a plea deal to avoid trial, where he will then be sentenced and transferred to jail. takes time.

    because people like you are taunting people like me asking when this will all happen, you need to realize that this takes time. you asking when it will happen seems like you are trying to wish it all away or something. this is going to happen in time. stop asking when.
    exact opposite, I'm hoping he is put away. I'm simply asking for an expedited process. sorry but I'm getting impatient.
    question: is due process similar to the impeachment process? can't I just hope and wish Jared away like many hope and wish his farther in law away with impeachment?

    So I'm on record, I would like nothing more than to see Kush, Mandafort and any all lobbyist thrown in the slammer.
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,744
    mfc2006 said:
    People that are Pro-Trump are fucking blind. It’s absolutely amazing and disgusting.
    They are blinded by their overwhelming fear
    Blinded by their overwhelming hatred
    Blinded by their overwhelming ignorance
    And in some cases they are blinded by their jealousy 
  • JC29856 said:
    Israel first, Saudis second then America just doesn't have the same run off your tongue ring as Make America Great Again

    H2M, When will Jared be behind bars? When you send the year long Russia thread to TEAM MUELLER please put a rush order on Kush.
    My guess JC? Sometime after the new year he’ll be indicted and charged. Mueller, to illustrate his heart, will allow Jared Dear Boy the opportunity to spend the holidays with his family, you know white privilege and all. Then when congress returns from their Christmas break (see? Not canceled), he’ll be indicted and formally charged, and placed under house arrest. Unless he cops a plea and agrees to be state’s witness, unlikely as he’ll do time as did his father and to stay in Trump’s good graces (plus, he’s young and wealthy enough to do some time and still have a life after the slammer), his trial will start in the late summer or early fall, just in time for the mid-terms. His trial will take 3-6 months and upon being found guilty, he’ll report to prison in December or January, if the court deems one more benevolent holiday with his family is in order,  again white privilege.
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    Douching troller alert.
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  • Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the president of the United States.

    Inside Trump’s Hour-by-Hour Battle for Self-Preservation - The New York Times https://apple.news/AUlEGv4PPTiCCGCElbtkQMg
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    mfc2006 said:
    People that are Pro-Trump are fucking blind. It’s absolutely amazing and disgusting.
    The cognitive dissonance is damn impressive for these people.

     If you're a tRump supporter, you're an idiot or a billionaire. Check your bank account to figure out which one you are. 
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,744
    CM189191 said:
    mfc2006 said:
    People that are Pro-Trump are fucking blind. It’s absolutely amazing and disgusting.
    The cognitive dissonance is damn impressive for these people.

     If you're a tRump supporter, you're an idiot or a billionaire. Check your bank account to figure out which one you are. 
    Isn't he proof that being a billionaire and being  an idiot aren't mutually exclusive?
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    CM189191 said:
    mfc2006 said:
    People that are Pro-Trump are fucking blind. It’s absolutely amazing and disgusting.
    The cognitive dissonance is damn impressive for these people.

     If you're a tRump supporter, you're an idiot or a billionaire. Check your bank account to figure out which one you are. 
    Isn't he proof that being a billionaire and being  an idiot aren't mutually exclusive?
    Touché
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the president of the United States.

    Inside Trump’s Hour-by-Hour Battle for Self-Preservation - The New York Times https://apple.news/AUlEGv4PPTiCCGCElbtkQMg
    What a giant mess.
  • Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the president of the United States.

    Inside Trump’s Hour-by-Hour Battle for Self-Preservation - The New York Times https://apple.news/AUlEGv4PPTiCCGCElbtkQMg
    Wow. As I was reading that I kept having to remind myself that this is The President of The United States.
    I mean he may have that title, but he is so not that.
  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,434
    Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the president of the United States.

    Inside Trump’s Hour-by-Hour Battle for Self-Preservation - The New York Times https://apple.news/AUlEGv4PPTiCCGCElbtkQMg
    Wow. As I was reading that I kept having to remind myself that this is The President of The United States.
    I mean he may have that title, but he is so not that.
    It’s unreal. 
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  • mfc2006 said:
    Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the president of the United States.

    Inside Trump’s Hour-by-Hour Battle for Self-Preservation - The New York Times https://apple.news/AUlEGv4PPTiCCGCElbtkQMg
    Wow. As I was reading that I kept having to remind myself that this is The President of The United States.
    I mean he may have that title, but he is so not that.
    It’s unreal. 
    Four hours, sometimes more, of television news a day. A fucking day! Gee, Donald, hmmm, I mean, Mr. President, there’s a fucking wild fire raging in California, maybe you’d like to assemble your cabinet and Marshall our resources to fight the FUCKING WILD FIRES IN CALIFORNIA instead of crooked Hillary?
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  • Because he was necessary for us to see the illusion of the global elites. Only the keeper of the Oracle wasn’t fooled. What a fucking joke some people are.
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,434
    mfc2006 said:
    Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the president of the United States.

    Inside Trump’s Hour-by-Hour Battle for Self-Preservation - The New York Times https://apple.news/AUlEGv4PPTiCCGCElbtkQMg
    Wow. As I was reading that I kept having to remind myself that this is The President of The United States.
    I mean he may have that title, but he is so not that.
    It’s unreal. 
    Four hours, sometimes more, of television news a day. A fucking day! Gee, Donald, hmmm, I mean, Mr. President, there’s a fucking wild fire raging in California, maybe you’d like to assemble your cabinet and Marshall our resources to fight the FUCKING WILD FIRES IN CALIFORNIA instead of crooked Hillary?
    Nah, he doesn’t have time to watch tv because of all the documents he’s reading. So many documents.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    BS44325 said:
    CM189191 said:
    BS44325 said:
    benjs said:
    There's a lot of shit being stirred here, but one thing some people are neglecting is the fact that it legitimately took the ugliest (in character) person I can think of to wake numerous moderates up to the fact that the government does not speak for, nor is held accountable by, the people - unless it is convenient for the House & Senate Majority.

    I'll be criticized by speaking anecdotally, but there's an unprecedented amount of discussion about politics in my household, amongst my circle of friends and coworkers, and amongst their circles. While Trump hardly deserves credit for this level of political engagement (expressed through dissent and rage), he's certainly the catalyst for it. 

    I'm not sure if that's what BS is trying to say, but if he is, I agree with him.
    Bingo...add to that the collapse of the illusion that the elite, be it in politics, media, entertainment etc. know what is best and have things “under control”. They do not have things under control. They never did. It was never the end of history. The world was/is heading for disaster and Trump is a symptom of the awakening to that disaster.
    Ah yes

    The Republican war cry

    "Government is broken, elect us and we'll prove it."

    Let me introduce you to my friend PT Barnum. 
    Trump ran against that Republican war cry. Please try to keep up.
    And you and others were suckers to believe him.

    Also, these elites you speak of......Trump is not an elite? Has he not surrounded himself with elites? I think it's just you have a problem with the lefts kind of elites as opposed to the rights elites. Lets at least be honest.
    He sure is an elite. A phony elite who is as guilty as the rest of them. He is a vessel however that is willing to use his first hand knowledge of this bipartisan phoniness to blow a whole through the rest of them. 

    Right, that's exactly what he's doing. Draining the swamp, getting rid of privilege..... oh, wait; perhaps that's not quite true. 
    A day doesn’t go by without another creature of the swamp taking a fall. What none of us realized is that the swamp extended far beyond Washington DC.

    Really?  You didn't realize that predators and hypocrites existed outside of DC?  Are you new to this world?  Have you never worked in a corporation, or gone to church or had neighbors?  Glad this is a life epiphany for you.  
    Uhhhh....no. What I didn’t realize is that the phrase “drain the swamp” would be applied far beyond it’s initial intent. I am glad you concede that it’s draining though.

    And you think Trump is responsible?  You're delusional.  The #metoo movement was precipitated by the reporting of the Lamestream media, led by Ronan Farrow, not the Trumpists.  That was the first domino to fall.  Trump has done nothing but hurt the movement.  Quit being a shill.  You're better than that. 
    If Clinton won none of these stories would have been told. She would have protected Weinstein for he was one of her major doners. Once she lost the protection racket collapsed. I don’t “credit” Trump for that...it just happens to be an ancillary benefit to his destruction of illusions.
    That's total bullcrap.  How would this silencing have taken place?  Would Ronan Farrow been whacked?  Arrested, thrown in jail?  
    Now who’s being naive. NBC tried to shut him down. If Clinton was president there is no guarantee that the New Yorker would have published. I can’t believe how blind you are to big media’s complicity in covering for these people all these years.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    BS44325 said:
    CM189191 said:
    BS44325 said:
    benjs said:
    There's a lot of shit being stirred here, but one thing some people are neglecting is the fact that it legitimately took the ugliest (in character) person I can think of to wake numerous moderates up to the fact that the government does not speak for, nor is held accountable by, the people - unless it is convenient for the House & Senate Majority.

    I'll be criticized by speaking anecdotally, but there's an unprecedented amount of discussion about politics in my household, amongst my circle of friends and coworkers, and amongst their circles. While Trump hardly deserves credit for this level of political engagement (expressed through dissent and rage), he's certainly the catalyst for it. 

    I'm not sure if that's what BS is trying to say, but if he is, I agree with him.
    Bingo...add to that the collapse of the illusion that the elite, be it in politics, media, entertainment etc. know what is best and have things “under control”. They do not have things under control. They never did. It was never the end of history. The world was/is heading for disaster and Trump is a symptom of the awakening to that disaster.
    Ah yes

    The Republican war cry

    "Government is broken, elect us and we'll prove it."

    Let me introduce you to my friend PT Barnum. 
    Trump ran against that Republican war cry. Please try to keep up.
    And you and others were suckers to believe him.

    Also, these elites you speak of......Trump is not an elite? Has he not surrounded himself with elites? I think it's just you have a problem with the lefts kind of elites as opposed to the rights elites. Lets at least be honest.
    He sure is an elite. A phony elite who is as guilty as the rest of them. He is a vessel however that is willing to use his first hand knowledge of this bipartisan phoniness to blow a whole through the rest of them. 

    Right, that's exactly what he's doing. Draining the swamp, getting rid of privilege..... oh, wait; perhaps that's not quite true. 
    A day doesn’t go by without another creature of the swamp taking a fall. What none of us realized is that the swamp extended far beyond Washington DC.

    Really?  You didn't realize that predators and hypocrites existed outside of DC?  Are you new to this world?  Have you never worked in a corporation, or gone to church or had neighbors?  Glad this is a life epiphany for you.  
    Uhhhh....no. What I didn’t realize is that the phrase “drain the swamp” would be applied far beyond it’s initial intent. I am glad you concede that it’s draining though.

    And you think Trump is responsible?  You're delusional.  The #metoo movement was precipitated by the reporting of the Lamestream media, led by Ronan Farrow, not the Trumpists.  That was the first domino to fall.  Trump has done nothing but hurt the movement.  Quit being a shill.  You're better than that. 
    If Clinton won none of these stories would have been told. She would have protected Weinstein for he was one of her major doners. Once she lost the protection racket collapsed. I don’t “credit” Trump for that...it just happens to be an ancillary benefit to his destruction of illusions.
    That's total bullcrap.  How would this silencing have taken place?  Would Ronan Farrow been whacked?  Arrested, thrown in jail?  
    The right is full of these contradictions. Clinton is simultaneously ineffectual and all-powerful. Trump's lies uncover the truth. Pretty distasteful, though, that no credit is given to women who actually had to do the hard work of standing up, making these accusations, and dealing with the resulting flack. 
    Please. The woman who tried to stand up against Bill Clinton were crushed by Hillary and her team. I believe she is ineffectual in governance but nobody ever accused her of being ineffectual when comes to squashing a scandal. She is an expert victim shamer and you all enabled her up until election day.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    dignin said:
    Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the president of the United States.

    Inside Trump’s Hour-by-Hour Battle for Self-Preservation - The New York Times https://apple.news/AUlEGv4PPTiCCGCElbtkQMg
    What a giant mess.
    And yet he is winning

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a2b1110e4b022ec613b823f?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,953
    edited December 2017
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the president of the United States.

    Inside Trump’s Hour-by-Hour Battle for Self-Preservation - The New York Times https://apple.news/AUlEGv4PPTiCCGCElbtkQMg
    What a giant mess.
    And yet he is winning

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a2b1110e4b022ec613b823f?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

    Makes you proud that a white supremacist, misogynistic selfish prick leads the world, doesn’t it? I mean how dare those brown and black unwashed masses challenge the power of white European judeo-Christians. Whatever will you do in the Prague GA or did you buy three seats for yourself so you might not “touch” anyone?
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    edited December 2017
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the president of the United States.

    Inside Trump’s Hour-by-Hour Battle for Self-Preservation - The New York Times https://apple.news/AUlEGv4PPTiCCGCElbtkQMg
    What a giant mess.
    And yet he is winning

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a2b1110e4b022ec613b823f?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

    Makes you proud that a white supremacist, misogynistic selfish prick leads the world, doesn’t it? I mean how dare those brown and black unwashed masses challenge the power of white European judeo-Christians. Whatever will you do in the Prague GA or did you buy three seats for yourself so you might not “touch” anyone?
    Oh I’ll be right there in the pit sharing the love with the global PJ community regardless of race, gender, sexuality, religion or political persuasion. That’s what true PJ fans do. We come together for peace under great music. It’s a celebration of our differences. A celebration of people with alternative view points coming together. It is a symbol that no matter what things unite us. You haven’t been a fan club member as long as me so you might not get it.
  • With the stories out about Trump watching tv 8 hours a day I can't help but think we will never know how grateful we should actually be that the awful leadership at the moment is so stupid and lazy (same here in the UK with them not putting the effort into the EU negotiations).
    Things 'could' be worse if they actually put some work in - imagine that!
  • BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the president of the United States.

    Inside Trump’s Hour-by-Hour Battle for Self-Preservation - The New York Times https://apple.news/AUlEGv4PPTiCCGCElbtkQMg
    What a giant mess.
    And yet he is winning

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a2b1110e4b022ec613b823f?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

    Makes you proud that a white supremacist, misogynistic selfish prick leads the world, doesn’t it? I mean how dare those brown and black unwashed masses challenge the power of white European judeo-Christians. Whatever will you do in the Prague GA or did you buy three seats for yourself so you might not “touch” anyone?
    Oh I’ll be right there in the pit sharing the love with the global PJ community regardless of race, gender, sexuality, religion or political persuasion. That’s what true PJ fans do. We come together for peace under great music. It’s a celebration of our differences. A celebration of people with alternative view points coming together. It is a symbol that no matter what things unite us. You haven’t been a fan club member as long as me so you might not get it.
    Yea, I don’t get it. How you identify with a band such as Pearl Jam and have the world view that you have. Don’t get it all, Professor.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the president of the United States.

    Inside Trump’s Hour-by-Hour Battle for Self-Preservation - The New York Times https://apple.news/AUlEGv4PPTiCCGCElbtkQMg
    What a giant mess.
    And yet he is winning

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a2b1110e4b022ec613b823f?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

    Makes you proud that a white supremacist, misogynistic selfish prick leads the world, doesn’t it? I mean how dare those brown and black unwashed masses challenge the power of white European judeo-Christians. Whatever will you do in the Prague GA or did you buy three seats for yourself so you might not “touch” anyone?
    Oh I’ll be right there in the pit sharing the love with the global PJ community regardless of race, gender, sexuality, religion or political persuasion. That’s what true PJ fans do. We come together for peace under great music. It’s a celebration of our differences. A celebration of people with alternative view points coming together. It is a symbol that no matter what things unite us. You haven’t been a fan club member as long as me so you might not get it.
    Yea, I don’t get it. How you identify with a band such as Pearl Jam and have the world view that you have. Don’t get it all, Professor.
    “And fuck me if I say something you don't want to hear
    And fuck if you only hear what you want to hear
    Fuck me if I care, but I'm not leaving here”

    now do you get it?
  • BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the president of the United States.

    Inside Trump’s Hour-by-Hour Battle for Self-Preservation - The New York Times https://apple.news/AUlEGv4PPTiCCGCElbtkQMg
    What a giant mess.
    And yet he is winning

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a2b1110e4b022ec613b823f?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

    Makes you proud that a white supremacist, misogynistic selfish prick leads the world, doesn’t it? I mean how dare those brown and black unwashed masses challenge the power of white European judeo-Christians. Whatever will you do in the Prague GA or did you buy three seats for yourself so you might not “touch” anyone?
    Oh I’ll be right there in the pit sharing the love with the global PJ community regardless of race, gender, sexuality, religion or political persuasion. That’s what true PJ fans do. We come together for peace under great music. It’s a celebration of our differences. A celebration of people with alternative view points coming together. It is a symbol that no matter what things unite us. You haven’t been a fan club member as long as me so you might not get it.
    Yea, I don’t get it. How you identify with a band such as Pearl Jam and have the world view that you have. Don’t get it all, Professor.
    “And fuck me if I say something you don't want to hear
    And fuck if you only hear what you want to hear
    Fuck me if I care, but I'm not leaving here”

    now do you get it?
    Still doesn’t help.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the president of the United States.

    Inside Trump’s Hour-by-Hour Battle for Self-Preservation - The New York Times https://apple.news/AUlEGv4PPTiCCGCElbtkQMg
    What a giant mess.
    And yet he is winning

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a2b1110e4b022ec613b823f?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

    Makes you proud that a white supremacist, misogynistic selfish prick leads the world, doesn’t it? I mean how dare those brown and black unwashed masses challenge the power of white European judeo-Christians. Whatever will you do in the Prague GA or did you buy three seats for yourself so you might not “touch” anyone?
    Oh I’ll be right there in the pit sharing the love with the global PJ community regardless of race, gender, sexuality, religion or political persuasion. That’s what true PJ fans do. We come together for peace under great music. It’s a celebration of our differences. A celebration of people with alternative view points coming together. It is a symbol that no matter what things unite us. You haven’t been a fan club member as long as me so you might not get it.
    Yea, I don’t get it. How you identify with a band such as Pearl Jam and have the world view that you have. Don’t get it all, Professor.
    “And fuck me if I say something you don't want to hear
    And fuck if you only hear what you want to hear
    Fuck me if I care, but I'm not leaving here”

    now do you get it?
    Still doesn’t help.
    It’s from a PJ Song. Save You. Sorry...I should have been more specific. Forgot you are one of those “I really liked the first three albums” guys.
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