Donald Trump

mrussel1

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Merkin Baller said:

Edved82 said:

As a non-American, I have often wondered what it is about Donald Trump that people are drawn to.

1) He is not good looking or charismatic.

2) He is a proven liar and fraud.

3) He's not a good public speaker

4) He clearly seems intent on destroying US democracy step-by-step.

Why are Republicans so beholden to this man? It really is beyond belief at this stage.

He hates all the right people. It isn’t about taxes, it isn’t about policy, he hates all the right people. It’s really that simple. 

agreed. you tap into people's hatred and fear, you win every time. 

I know this thread is about trump, but....

Hence Biden's current shift to addressing MAGA head on.  And I think it was a smart move. 

 It's unfortunate that it's more about that then policy decisions and bills passed.  For me, Biden has a major win in the infrastructure bill, an ok win on his environmental bill he calls inflation reduction, a huge loss in his presidential move to waive loans.  He owns what I believe is success in regards to Ukraine...a loss in regards to Afghanastan (though a really tough position). He owns a win for the vaccine distribution and maintaining jobs....and a loss for extremely high inflation.  All in all he is actually doing the job which is great and is managing to even make moderates (that used to lean more fiscally conservative) happy half the time. 

  But due mostly to inflation, I think the smart move is to paint the culture picture head on and stop letting the MAGA crowd own that space alone.  I am not a Biden fan really.  I am not a fan of the Dems agenda in large part.  But the alternative remains extremely dangerous to those things that I am a fan of.  

Trump did tap into people's fear and anger...and it worked for him.  Almost got re-elected which is crazy.  Biden seems to be trying to do the same to energize the Dem and moderate voters.  And I like it.  Just keep it to facts and truth.

You forgot abortion and how important that is.

Approval rating is a tricky thing, because it's a comparison vs what you agree with.  Elections are a choice and your statement about the MAGA alternative is what this election is about.  I think Biden is very smart to make this election as much about Trump as he can, and Trump is happy to take that bait.  The speech about MAGA essentially made is about Trump.  

cincybearcat

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Merkin Baller said:

Edved82 said:

As a non-American, I have often wondered what it is about Donald Trump that people are drawn to.

1) He is not good looking or charismatic.

2) He is a proven liar and fraud.

3) He's not a good public speaker

4) He clearly seems intent on destroying US democracy step-by-step.

Why are Republicans so beholden to this man? It really is beyond belief at this stage.

He hates all the right people. It isn’t about taxes, it isn’t about policy, he hates all the right people. It’s really that simple. 

agreed. you tap into people's hatred and fear, you win every time. 

I know this thread is about trump, but....

Hence Biden's current shift to addressing MAGA head on.  And I think it was a smart move. 

 It's unfortunate that it's more about that then policy decisions and bills passed.  For me, Biden has a major win in the infrastructure bill, an ok win on his environmental bill he calls inflation reduction, a huge loss in his presidential move to waive loans.  He owns what I believe is success in regards to Ukraine...a loss in regards to Afghanastan (though a really tough position). He owns a win for the vaccine distribution and maintaining jobs....and a loss for extremely high inflation.  All in all he is actually doing the job which is great and is managing to even make moderates (that used to lean more fiscally conservative) happy half the time. 

  But due mostly to inflation, I think the smart move is to paint the culture picture head on and stop letting the MAGA crowd own that space alone.  I am not a Biden fan really.  I am not a fan of the Dems agenda in large part.  But the alternative remains extremely dangerous to those things that I am a fan of.  

Trump did tap into people's fear and anger...and it worked for him.  Almost got re-elected which is crazy.  Biden seems to be trying to do the same to energize the Dem and moderate voters.  And I like it.  Just keep it to facts and truth.

You forgot abortion and how important that is.

Approval rating is a tricky thing, because it's a comparison vs what you agree with.  Elections are a choice and your statement about the MAGA alternative is what this election is about.  I think Biden is very smart to make this election as much about Trump as he can, and Trump is happy to take that bait.  The speech about MAGA essentially made is about Trump.  

Yes abortion will play a key role.  I didn't mention it cause it isn't policy...it was a supreme court decision, but it'll have an effect and drive people to the polls.  It already was driving single-issue GOP to the polls for many years.  Gotta at least be impressed with their persistence.

Merkin Baller

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Merkin Baller said:

Edved82 said:

As a non-American, I have often wondered what it is about Donald Trump that people are drawn to.

1) He is not good looking or charismatic.

2) He is a proven liar and fraud.

3) He's not a good public speaker

4) He clearly seems intent on destroying US democracy step-by-step.

Why are Republicans so beholden to this man? It really is beyond belief at this stage.

He hates all the right people. It isn’t about taxes, it isn’t about policy, he hates all the right people. It’s really that simple. 

agreed. you tap into people's hatred and fear, you win every time. 

I know this thread is about trump, but....

Hence Biden's current shift to addressing MAGA head on.  And I think it was a smart move. 

 It's unfortunate that it's more about that then policy decisions and bills passed.  For me, Biden has a major win in the infrastructure bill, an ok win on his environmental bill he calls inflation reduction, a huge loss in his presidential move to waive loans.  He owns what I believe is success in regards to Ukraine...a loss in regards to Afghanastan (though a really tough position). He owns a win for the vaccine distribution and maintaining jobs....and a loss for extremely high inflation.  All in all he is actually doing the job which is great and is managing to even make moderates (that used to lean more fiscally conservative) happy half the time. 

  But due mostly to inflation, I think the smart move is to paint the culture picture head on and stop letting the MAGA crowd own that space alone.  I am not a Biden fan really.  I am not a fan of the Dems agenda in large part.  But the alternative remains extremely dangerous to those things that I am a fan of.  

Trump did tap into people's fear and anger...and it worked for him.  Almost got re-elected which is crazy.  Biden seems to be trying to do the same to energize the Dem and moderate voters.  And I like it.  Just keep it to facts and truth.

You forgot abortion and how important that is.

Approval rating is a tricky thing, because it's a comparison vs what you agree with.  Elections are a choice and your statement about the MAGA alternative is what this election is about.  I think Biden is very smart to make this election as much about Trump as he can, and Trump is happy to take that bait.  The speech about MAGA essentially made is about Trump.  

Yes abortion will play a key role.  I didn't mention it cause it isn't policy...it was a supreme court decision, but it'll have an effect and drive people to the polls.  It already was driving single-issue GOP to the polls for many years.  Gotta at least be impressed with their persistence.

1000%. The GOP played the long game, and got what they said they've wanted for the last 50 years. 

OnWis97

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Merkin Baller said:

Edved82 said:

As a non-American, I have often wondered what it is about Donald Trump that people are drawn to.

1) He is not good looking or charismatic.

2) He is a proven liar and fraud.

3) He's not a good public speaker

4) He clearly seems intent on destroying US democracy step-by-step.

Why are Republicans so beholden to this man? It really is beyond belief at this stage.

He hates all the right people. It isn’t about taxes, it isn’t about policy, he hates all the right people. It’s really that simple. 

agreed. you tap into people's hatred and fear, you win every time. 

I know this thread is about trump, but....

Hence Biden's current shift to addressing MAGA head on.  And I think it was a smart move. 

 It's unfortunate that it's more about that then policy decisions and bills passed.  For me, Biden has a major win in the infrastructure bill, an ok win on his environmental bill he calls inflation reduction, a huge loss in his presidential move to waive loans.  He owns what I believe is success in regards to Ukraine...a loss in regards to Afghanastan (though a really tough position). He owns a win for the vaccine distribution and maintaining jobs....and a loss for extremely high inflation.  All in all he is actually doing the job which is great and is managing to even make moderates (that used to lean more fiscally conservative) happy half the time. 

  But due mostly to inflation, I think the smart move is to paint the culture picture head on and stop letting the MAGA crowd own that space alone.  I am not a Biden fan really.  I am not a fan of the Dems agenda in large part.  But the alternative remains extremely dangerous to those things that I am a fan of.  

Trump did tap into people's fear and anger...and it worked for him.  Almost got re-elected which is crazy.  Biden seems to be trying to do the same to energize the Dem and moderate voters.  And I like it.  Just keep it to facts and truth.

You forgot abortion and how important that is.

Approval rating is a tricky thing, because it's a comparison vs what you agree with.  Elections are a choice and your statement about the MAGA alternative is what this election is about.  I think Biden is very smart to make this election as much about Trump as he can, and Trump is happy to take that bait.  The speech about MAGA essentially made is about Trump.  

Yes abortion will play a key role.  I didn't mention it cause it isn't policy...it was a supreme court decision, but it'll have an effect and drive people to the polls.  It already was driving single-issue GOP to the polls for many years.  Gotta at least be impressed with their persistence.

I think the reversal of Roe is going to be big for a lot of elections. It's the reason the incumbent Dems have a pretty good chance in Michigan and Minnesota. There used to be this sort of cynical thought that the GOP didn't actually want R v W reversed because of how it might shift the balance in pro life vs. pro choice ferver. And it feels like we might see that.

The Minnesota GOP candidate is going full SCOTUS Nominee by proclaiming legal abortion to be set law...only months after saying the opposite. It's a bold-faced lie but I think the GOP might be learning where the majority sits on the issue.

OnWis97

Merkin Baller said:

Edved82 said:

As a non-American, I have often wondered what it is about Donald Trump that people are drawn to.

1) He is not good looking or charismatic.

2) He is a proven liar and fraud.

3) He's not a good public speaker

4) He clearly seems intent on destroying US democracy step-by-step.

Why are Republicans so beholden to this man? It really is beyond belief at this stage.

He hates all the right people. It isn’t about taxes, it isn’t about policy, he hates all the right people. It’s really that simple. 

So succinct and so true. My gut reaction to that list was also to add "And he's an absolutely miserable human being." I mean, W was terrible in so many ways but his appeal was that silly "wanna have a beer with him" demeanor. Trump appears to have no sense of humor or joy. He's just miserable. His entire persona is anger.

A generation ago, that would have gotten him nowhere. After all, aren't most people drawn to optimism and positivity (not me, but most people)? But the 24/7 fear-mongering and finger pointing have provided a toxic cloud of irrational anger...I don't think they even always know what they're angry about. But they're angry. Trump's misery plays into that well.

Merkin Baller

OnWis97 said:

Merkin Baller said:

Edved82 said:

As a non-American, I have often wondered what it is about Donald Trump that people are drawn to.

1) He is not good looking or charismatic.

2) He is a proven liar and fraud.

3) He's not a good public speaker

4) He clearly seems intent on destroying US democracy step-by-step.

Why are Republicans so beholden to this man? It really is beyond belief at this stage.

He hates all the right people. It isn’t about taxes, it isn’t about policy, he hates all the right people. It’s really that simple. 

So succinct and so true. My gut reaction to that list was also to add "And he's an absolutely miserable human being." I mean, W was terrible in so many ways but his appeal was that silly "wanna have a beer with him" demeanor. Trump appears to have no sense of humor or joy. He's just miserable. His entire persona is anger.

A generation ago, that would have gotten him nowhere. After all, aren't most people drawn to optimism and positivity (not me, but most people)? But the 24/7 fear-mongering and finger pointing have provided a toxic cloud of irrational anger...I don't think they even always know what they're angry about. But they're angry. Trump's misery plays into that well.

He's a miserable man appealing to miserable people who want to see everyone else as miserable as they are. 

It's one big culture of anger, perceived victimhood and misery. 

ikiT

OnWis97 said:

Merkin Baller said:

Edved82 said:

As a non-American, I have often wondered what it is about Donald Trump that people are drawn to.

1) He is not good looking or charismatic.

2) He is a proven liar and fraud.

3) He's not a good public speaker

4) He clearly seems intent on destroying US democracy step-by-step.

Why are Republicans so beholden to this man? It really is beyond belief at this stage.

He hates all the right people. It isn’t about taxes, it isn’t about policy, he hates all the right people. It’s really that simple. 

So succinct and so true. My gut reaction to that list was also to add "And he's an absolutely miserable human being." I mean, W was terrible in so many ways but his appeal was that silly "wanna have a beer with him" demeanor. Trump appears to have no sense of humor or joy. He's just miserable. His entire persona is anger.

A generation ago, that would have gotten him nowhere. After all, aren't most people drawn to optimism and positivity (not me, but most people)? But the 24/7 fear-mongering and finger pointing have provided a toxic cloud of irrational anger...I don't think they even always know what they're angry about. But they're angry. Trump's misery plays into that well.

Truth is getting spit up in this MOFO

cincybearcat

Merkin Baller said:

OnWis97 said:

Merkin Baller said:

Edved82 said:

As a non-American, I have often wondered what it is about Donald Trump that people are drawn to.

1) He is not good looking or charismatic.

2) He is a proven liar and fraud.

3) He's not a good public speaker

4) He clearly seems intent on destroying US democracy step-by-step.

Why are Republicans so beholden to this man? It really is beyond belief at this stage.

He hates all the right people. It isn’t about taxes, it isn’t about policy, he hates all the right people. It’s really that simple. 

So succinct and so true. My gut reaction to that list was also to add "And he's an absolutely miserable human being." I mean, W was terrible in so many ways but his appeal was that silly "wanna have a beer with him" demeanor. Trump appears to have no sense of humor or joy. He's just miserable. His entire persona is anger.

A generation ago, that would have gotten him nowhere. After all, aren't most people drawn to optimism and positivity (not me, but most people)? But the 24/7 fear-mongering and finger pointing have provided a toxic cloud of irrational anger...I don't think they even always know what they're angry about. But they're angry. Trump's misery plays into that well.

He's a miserable man appealing to miserable people who want to see everyone else as miserable as they are. 

It's one big culture of anger, perceived victimhood and misery. 

This is true for the extreme MAGA crowd.  It is not true of his 72 million votes in total.  Some get tired of paying for everyone.  And looky there...Biden is making them pay for other people's loans already.  It is not an unfounded dislike of the Dems policies.

Merkin Baller

cincybearcat said:

Merkin Baller said:

OnWis97 said:

Merkin Baller said:

Edved82 said:

As a non-American, I have often wondered what it is about Donald Trump that people are drawn to.

1) He is not good looking or charismatic.

2) He is a proven liar and fraud.

3) He's not a good public speaker

4) He clearly seems intent on destroying US democracy step-by-step.

Why are Republicans so beholden to this man? It really is beyond belief at this stage.

He hates all the right people. It isn’t about taxes, it isn’t about policy, he hates all the right people. It’s really that simple. 

So succinct and so true. My gut reaction to that list was also to add "And he's an absolutely miserable human being." I mean, W was terrible in so many ways but his appeal was that silly "wanna have a beer with him" demeanor. Trump appears to have no sense of humor or joy. He's just miserable. His entire persona is anger.

A generation ago, that would have gotten him nowhere. After all, aren't most people drawn to optimism and positivity (not me, but most people)? But the 24/7 fear-mongering and finger pointing have provided a toxic cloud of irrational anger...I don't think they even always know what they're angry about. But they're angry. Trump's misery plays into that well.

He's a miserable man appealing to miserable people who want to see everyone else as miserable as they are. 

It's one big culture of anger, perceived victimhood and misery. 

This is true for the extreme MAGA crowd.  It is not true of his 72 million votes in total.  Some get tired of paying for everyone.  And looky there...Biden is making them pay for other people's loans already.  It is not an unfounded dislike of the Dems policies.

"Perceived victimhood" 

mrussel1

OnWis97 said:

Merkin Baller said:

Edved82 said:

As a non-American, I have often wondered what it is about Donald Trump that people are drawn to.

1) He is not good looking or charismatic.

2) He is a proven liar and fraud.

3) He's not a good public speaker

4) He clearly seems intent on destroying US democracy step-by-step.

Why are Republicans so beholden to this man? It really is beyond belief at this stage.

He hates all the right people. It isn’t about taxes, it isn’t about policy, he hates all the right people. It’s really that simple. 

So succinct and so true. My gut reaction to that list was also to add "And he's an absolutely miserable human being." I mean, W was terrible in so many ways but his appeal was that silly "wanna have a beer with him" demeanor. Trump appears to have no sense of humor or joy. He's just miserable. His entire persona is anger.

A generation ago, that would have gotten him nowhere. After all, aren't most people drawn to optimism and positivity (not me, but most people)? But the 24/7 fear-mongering and finger pointing have provided a toxic cloud of irrational anger...I don't think they even always know what they're angry about. But they're angry. Trump's misery plays into that well.

W’s problem was he was owned by the NEOCONs.  W wasn’t nativist or racist even if members of his party were.  He has always been pro immigration and I don’t recall him ever demonizing the “other”.  I also appreciate that when his time was up he willingly passed the Baton to Obama, which is how it is supposed to work.  No president has ever finished he job.  

tbergs

cincybearcat said:

Merkin Baller said:

OnWis97 said:

Merkin Baller said:

Edved82 said:

As a non-American, I have often wondered what it is about Donald Trump that people are drawn to.

1) He is not good looking or charismatic.

2) He is a proven liar and fraud.

3) He's not a good public speaker

4) He clearly seems intent on destroying US democracy step-by-step.

Why are Republicans so beholden to this man? It really is beyond belief at this stage.

He hates all the right people. It isn’t about taxes, it isn’t about policy, he hates all the right people. It’s really that simple. 

So succinct and so true. My gut reaction to that list was also to add "And he's an absolutely miserable human being." I mean, W was terrible in so many ways but his appeal was that silly "wanna have a beer with him" demeanor. Trump appears to have no sense of humor or joy. He's just miserable. His entire persona is anger.

A generation ago, that would have gotten him nowhere. After all, aren't most people drawn to optimism and positivity (not me, but most people)? But the 24/7 fear-mongering and finger pointing have provided a toxic cloud of irrational anger...I don't think they even always know what they're angry about. But they're angry. Trump's misery plays into that well.

He's a miserable man appealing to miserable people who want to see everyone else as miserable as they are. 

It's one big culture of anger, perceived victimhood and misery. 

This is true for the extreme MAGA crowd.  It is not true of his 72 million votes in total.  Some get tired of paying for everyone.  And looky there...Biden is making them pay for other people's loans already.  It is not an unfounded dislike of the Dems policies.

Interesting assessment of the loan forgiveness. You don't like it, but it is something that Biden needed to do for the progressive side of aisle and it has minimal impact on us overall. I call that one a break even. I don't like spending billions on the DOD for who knows what, but we do that every year in the name of national security. Most conservatives aren't going to be happy or like the loan forgiveness, but it's not like a lot of them are lost votes based on that one issue. It was a good move, but not a solution to the overall skyrocketing student loan crisis across this country.

OnWis97

tbergs said:

cincybearcat said:

Merkin Baller said:

OnWis97 said:

Merkin Baller said:

Edved82 said:

As a non-American, I have often wondered what it is about Donald Trump that people are drawn to.

1) He is not good looking or charismatic.

2) He is a proven liar and fraud.

3) He's not a good public speaker

4) He clearly seems intent on destroying US democracy step-by-step.

Why are Republicans so beholden to this man? It really is beyond belief at this stage.

He hates all the right people. It isn’t about taxes, it isn’t about policy, he hates all the right people. It’s really that simple. 

So succinct and so true. My gut reaction to that list was also to add "And he's an absolutely miserable human being." I mean, W was terrible in so many ways but his appeal was that silly "wanna have a beer with him" demeanor. Trump appears to have no sense of humor or joy. He's just miserable. His entire persona is anger.

A generation ago, that would have gotten him nowhere. After all, aren't most people drawn to optimism and positivity (not me, but most people)? But the 24/7 fear-mongering and finger pointing have provided a toxic cloud of irrational anger...I don't think they even always know what they're angry about. But they're angry. Trump's misery plays into that well.

He's a miserable man appealing to miserable people who want to see everyone else as miserable as they are. 

It's one big culture of anger, perceived victimhood and misery. 

This is true for the extreme MAGA crowd.  It is not true of his 72 million votes in total.  Some get tired of paying for everyone.  And looky there...Biden is making them pay for other people's loans already.  It is not an unfounded dislike of the Dems policies.

Interesting assessment of the loan forgiveness. You don't like it, but it is something that Biden needed to do for the progressive side of aisle and it has minimal impact on us overall. I call that one a break even. I don't like spending billions on the DOD for who knows what, but we do that every year in the name of national security. Most conservatives aren't going to be happy or like the loan forgiveness, but it's not like a lot of them are lost votes based on that one issue. It was a good move, but not a solution to the overall skyrocketing student loan crisis across this country.

Politically, I'd call it a terrible move. It just plays right into the hands of the narrative that the party led by a birthright billionaire that's never mowed a lawn is for the "regular people" while the party currently in the hands or a U-Delaware grad who moved from Scranton to Wilmington when his father was fired is for "the elite." Sure, a lot of the arguments were lazy generations (hard-working truck drivers paying for the bad decisions made by people with philosophy degrees) but they should have seen it coming. 

Merit-wise, I'd call it a bad move, but not nearly as bad some think. A few years ago, we wrote a $30,000 check to pay my wife's loans...if we'd waited would we have had some relief? Don't know; don't care. This is one of countless examples of government actions that help some people over others...Gov Desantis wants to pause toll-road collection. Should people that put themselves in position (through choices) to not rely on long road commutes be upset?  Maybe (for several philosophical reasons, this bugs me more). So while (despite its headline-grab-ability) it's not even close to the worst decision made by this or any other administration, I have two problems with it. First, while I don't necessarily mind the randomness of who it helps, I do think it's an arbitrary time do do a somewhat arbitrary thing. Second (and more importantly) it's putting a band-aid on the gunshot wound that is the cost of education and the difficulty in obtaining it for many. I'd rather see something meant to address the long-term cost. Why give $10,000 to mom or dad, when their child's still going to have to find a way to pay off mid-six-figures?

mickeyrat

https://apnews.com/article/judge-dismisses-trump-lawsuit-against-clinton-1c49b9f65177507bb06115b631c8499d

 

Lawsuits Donald Trump Hillary Clinton James Comey Government and politics

Judge tosses Trump's Russia probe suit against Clinton, FBI

By ERIC TUCKER

23 mins ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge in Florida has dismissed Donald Trump's lawsuit against 2016 Democratic rival Hillary Clinton and former top FBI officials, rejecting the former president's claims that they and others acted in concert to concoct the Russia investigation that shadowed much of his administration.

U.S. District Judge Donald Middlebrooks said in a sharply worded ruling on Thursday that Trump's lawsuit, filed in March, contained “glaring structural deficiencies” and that many of the “characterizations of events are implausible.”

He dismissed the idea that Trump had sued to correct an actual legal harm, saying that “instead, he is seeking to flaunt a two-hundred-page political manifesto outlining his grievances against those that have opposed him, and this Court is not the appropriate forum.”

The lawsuit had named as defendants Clinton and some of her top advisers, as well as former FBI Director James Comey and other FBI officials involved in the investigation into whether Trump's 2016 presidential campaign had coordinated with Russia to sway the outcome of the election.

Other defendants include the founders of a political research firm that hired a former British spy to investigate ties between Trump and Russia, and a well-connected Democratic lawyer who was recently acquitted on a charge of lying to the FBI during a 2016 meeting in which he presented the bureau with information he wanted it to investigate.

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EU nations struggle to find joint approach on energy prices

But none of the claims, the judge wrote, supported Trump's claims of a conspiracy against him.

“What the Amended Complaint lacks in substance and legal support it seeks to substitute with length, hyperbole, and the settling of scores and grievances,” Middlebrooks wrote.

A 2019 Justice Department inspector general report did identify certain flaws by the FBI during the Russia investigation, but did not find evidence that the bureau's leaders were motivated by political bias in opening the probe and said the inquiry was started for a legitimate purpose.

A separate investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller produced criminal charges against nearly three dozen people and entities and found pervasive Russian interference in the election, but did not establish a criminal conspiracy with the Trump campaign.

Alina Habba, a lawyer for Trump, said Friday that Trump would appeal the dismissal.

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Follow Eric Tucker on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/etuckerAP

ikiT

gov.uscourts.flsd.610157.267.0.pdf (courtlistener.com)

TJ25487

Edved82 said:

As a non-American, I have often wondered what it is about Donald Trump that people are drawn to.

1) He is not good looking or charismatic.

2) He is a proven liar and fraud.

3) He's not a good public speaker

4) He clearly seems intent on destroying US democracy step-by-step.

Why are Republicans so beholden to this man? It really is beyond belief at this stage.

As an American I can tell you I agree with the article excerpts below. Directly below is the link to the long version which is a lot more detailed and explanatory. 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/09/trump-towering-political-figure-living-memory-claremont-institute-chair-tomas-klingenstein-delivers-historic-remarks-virtues-president-donald-trump-video/

“Trump Is the Most Towering Political Figure in Living Memory” – Claremont Institute Chair Tomas Klingenstein Delivers Historic Remarks on the Virtues of President Donald Trump (VIDEO)

Below are a few Trump reminders that Tom makes in his speech.

• Trump knows the media can’t be negotiated with, or reformed. It must be defeated.
• Trump smoked out rats from hiding places. We now know our intelligence agencies are corrupt.
• We watched Trump loosen the grip of political correctness, while Repubs wouldn’t engage.
• Trump made it clear it’s a privilege to enter our country, foreigners should assimilate to us.
• Trump wants back that nostalgic America guided by relentless optimism, grit, and determination.
• Before Trump, politicians hid from the public that China is our mortal enemy. Now we all know.
• Trump’s virtue, backbone, and fortitude are the new standard to judge candidates.
• Trump’s supporters, and the spirit they embrace, are the new life force of the Rep Party.
• Trump was born for this current crisis, the life and death fight against woke communism.
• The “cold” civil war divide in our country was exposed by Trump, not created by him.
• In war you need strong men to make a stand. Trump is a manly man, with resolve.
• When you’re in the right, you fight to win. Sometimes this means doing distasteful things.
• Leadership strength is in short supply. Trump understands there are no clean hands in a fist fight.
• Trump wants people to learn how to love our country, not be taught how to hate it.

mrussel1

TJ25487 said:

Edved82 said:

As a non-American, I have often wondered what it is about Donald Trump that people are drawn to.

1) He is not good looking or charismatic.

2) He is a proven liar and fraud.

3) He's not a good public speaker

4) He clearly seems intent on destroying US democracy step-by-step.

Why are Republicans so beholden to this man? It really is beyond belief at this stage.

As an American I can tell you I agree with the article excerpts below. Directly below is the link to the long version which is a lot more detailed and explanatory. 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/09/trump-towering-political-figure-living-memory-claremont-institute-chair-tomas-klingenstein-delivers-historic-remarks-virtues-president-donald-trump-video/

“Trump Is the Most Towering Political Figure in Living Memory” – Claremont Institute Chair Tomas Klingenstein Delivers Historic Remarks on the Virtues of President Donald Trump (VIDEO)

Below are a few Trump reminders that Tom makes in his speech.

• Trump knows the media can’t be negotiated with, or reformed. It must be defeated.
• Trump smoked out rats from hiding places. We now know our intelligence agencies are corrupt.
• We watched Trump loosen the grip of political correctness, while Repubs wouldn’t engage.
• Trump made it clear it’s a privilege to enter our country, foreigners should assimilate to us.
• Trump wants back that nostalgic America guided by relentless optimism, grit, and determination.
• Before Trump, politicians hid from the public that China is our mortal enemy. Now we all know.
• Trump’s virtue, backbone, and fortitude are the new standard to judge candidates.
• Trump’s supporters, and the spirit they embrace, are the new life force of the Rep Party.
• Trump was born for this current crisis, the life and death fight against woke communism.
• The “cold” civil war divide in our country was exposed by Trump, not created by him.
• In war you need strong men to make a stand. Trump is a manly man, with resolve.
• When you’re in the right, you fight to win. Sometimes this means doing distasteful things.
• Leadership strength is in short supply. Trump understands there are no clean hands in a fist fight.
• Trump wants people to learn how to love our country, not be taught how to hate it.

Cultism is so friggin weird.  My God, have you no critical thinking skills?

tbergs

TJ25487 said:

Edved82 said:

As a non-American, I have often wondered what it is about Donald Trump that people are drawn to.

1) He is not good looking or charismatic.

2) He is a proven liar and fraud.

3) He's not a good public speaker

4) He clearly seems intent on destroying US democracy step-by-step.

Why are Republicans so beholden to this man? It really is beyond belief at this stage.

As an American I can tell you I agree with the article excerpts below. Directly below is the link to the long version which is a lot more detailed and explanatory. 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/09/trump-towering-political-figure-living-memory-claremont-institute-chair-tomas-klingenstein-delivers-historic-remarks-virtues-president-donald-trump-video/

“Trump Is the Most Towering Political Figure in Living Memory” – Claremont Institute Chair Tomas Klingenstein Delivers Historic Remarks on the Virtues of President Donald Trump (VIDEO)

Below are a few Trump reminders that Tom makes in his speech.

• Trump knows the media can’t be negotiated with, or reformed. It must be defeated.
• Trump smoked out rats from hiding places. We now know our intelligence agencies are corrupt.
• We watched Trump loosen the grip of political correctness, while Repubs wouldn’t engage.
• Trump made it clear it’s a privilege to enter our country, foreigners should assimilate to us.
• Trump wants back that nostalgic America guided by relentless optimism, grit, and determination.
• Before Trump, politicians hid from the public that China is our mortal enemy. Now we all know.
• Trump’s virtue, backbone, and fortitude are the new standard to judge candidates.
• Trump’s supporters, and the spirit they embrace, are the new life force of the Rep Party.
• Trump was born for this current crisis, the life and death fight against woke communism.
• The “cold” civil war divide in our country was exposed by Trump, not created by him.
• In war you need strong men to make a stand. Trump is a manly man, with resolve.
• When you’re in the right, you fight to win. Sometimes this means doing distasteful things.
• Leadership strength is in short supply. Trump understands there are no clean hands in a fist fight.
• Trump wants people to learn how to love our country, not be taught how to hate it.

Huh, it must be pay day because you just blew your whole wad at the bait store. Looks like you haven't gotten any bites yet. Might still be time to return it and get your money back.

Halifax2TheMax

“Our intelligence agencies are corrupt.” Still draining the swamp? Gateway Pundit? When’s the next rally.

#Birdsarentreal

benjs

mrussel1 said:

TJ25487 said:

Edved82 said:

As a non-American, I have often wondered what it is about Donald Trump that people are drawn to.

1) He is not good looking or charismatic.

2) He is a proven liar and fraud.

3) He's not a good public speaker

4) He clearly seems intent on destroying US democracy step-by-step.

Why are Republicans so beholden to this man? It really is beyond belief at this stage.

As an American I can tell you I agree with the article excerpts below. Directly below is the link to the long version which is a lot more detailed and explanatory. 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/09/trump-towering-political-figure-living-memory-claremont-institute-chair-tomas-klingenstein-delivers-historic-remarks-virtues-president-donald-trump-video/

“Trump Is the Most Towering Political Figure in Living Memory” – Claremont Institute Chair Tomas Klingenstein Delivers Historic Remarks on the Virtues of President Donald Trump (VIDEO)

Below are a few Trump reminders that Tom makes in his speech.

• Trump knows the media can’t be negotiated with, or reformed. It must be defeated.
• Trump smoked out rats from hiding places. We now know our intelligence agencies are corrupt.
• We watched Trump loosen the grip of political correctness, while Repubs wouldn’t engage.
• Trump made it clear it’s a privilege to enter our country, foreigners should assimilate to us.
• Trump wants back that nostalgic America guided by relentless optimism, grit, and determination.
• Before Trump, politicians hid from the public that China is our mortal enemy. Now we all know.
• Trump’s virtue, backbone, and fortitude are the new standard to judge candidates.
• Trump’s supporters, and the spirit they embrace, are the new life force of the Rep Party.
• Trump was born for this current crisis, the life and death fight against woke communism.
• The “cold” civil war divide in our country was exposed by Trump, not created by him.
• In war you need strong men to make a stand. Trump is a manly man, with resolve.
• When you’re in the right, you fight to win. Sometimes this means doing distasteful things.
• Leadership strength is in short supply. Trump understands there are no clean hands in a fist fight.
• Trump wants people to learn how to love our country, not be taught how to hate it.

Cultism is so friggin weird.  My God, have you no critical thinking skills?

This is where I think a lack of proper education (i.e. basic abilities to think critically) has hamstrung democracy at large. When your voting base buys into this kind of easily disprovable rhetoric - you have a serious problem. 

josevolution

T the cultist 😂😂😂😂