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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,068
    "Only the guilty plea the Fifth."

    Maddow Blog | Another Team Trump lawyer to plead the Fifth in Jan. 6 probe

    Steve Benen - 40m ago

    It was just a couple of days ago when Jeffrey Clark, a former Justice Department official who tried to help Donald Trump overturn the 2020 election, told the committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack what it didn't want to hear. Through his attorney, Clark said he'd sit down with investigators tomorrow, at which point he'd "claim Fifth Amendment protection" against self-incrimination.

    Rep. Bennie Thompson, the Democratic chairman of the bipartisan panel, explained on the show soon after that given the nature of the Fifth Amendment, "Obviously, [Clark] is aware that something went on that is illegal."

    It's against that backdrop that a different lawyer from Donald Trump's team is also prepared to plead the Fifth. Politico reported:

    John Eastman, the attorney who helped former President Donald Trump pressure then-Vice President Mike Pence to overturn the 2020 election, has asserted his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination, according to a letter he delivered to the Jan. 6 committee explaining his decision not to testify.... Eastman's decision is an extraordinary assertion by someone who worked closely with Trump to attempt to overturn the 2020 election results.

    For those who may need a refresher, it was last summer when Eastman published a bizarre piece that argued that Vice President Kamala Harris was ineligible for national office because her parents are immigrants. Soon after, he began working with Trump — the then-president saw him on Fox News and was impressed — and as part of that work, Eastman filed the brief last December on Trump's behalf that asked the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn the 2020 presidential election. (It was filled with factual errors — including an obvious one literally on the first page.)

    Maddow Blog | Another Team Trump lawyer to plead the Fifth in Jan. 6 probe (msn.com)

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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Maddow literally burst into flames at the end of last nights first segment, speaking on how the Clark draft letter (the main focus on why he was going to fifth today, but now he has a medical issue), had WH Communications metadata in the MS-WORD file. 

    • Dec. 23 (approximately): Clark meets with Trump in the Oval Office.
    • Dec. 27: Trump suggestively floats replacing Rosen with Clark while meeting with Rosen and Donoghue. Also, Rep. Scott Perry (R-Pa.) calls and asks Donoghue to let Clark look into such claims in Pennsylvania.
    • Dec. 28: Clark emails Rosen and Donoghue about a draft letter he wants the Justice Department to send urging Georgia’s legislature to call a special session to address supposed election irregularities. Rosen and Donoghue reject the idea out of hand.
    • Dec. 31: Clark tells Rosen he has spoken with Trump again — and that Trump asked him if he would be interested in taking over as acting attorney general.
    • Jan. 1: White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows asks Rosen to allow Clark to investigate supposed voting issues in Fulton County, Ga.
    • Jan. 2: Clark tells Rosen and Donoghue that Trump has offered him the job of acting attorney general, according to Donoghue’s testimony, but he says he might turn down Trump’s offer if Rosen agrees to send the Georgia letter, per Rosen’s testimony.

    ALL OUT IN PLAIN SIGHT. 
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  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited December 2021
    The thing I don’t get about Trumpism which is ideologically different from decades of the republican platform is how he was able to convince everyone to change their position on numerous issues. 

    Republicans have historically held themselves up to be the “pro freedom” pro “individualism” and all those types of ideas. It’s the Democrats who were the sheep and the followers… or so the story goes. But when trump came along they all forgot about their long held positions, gave up their free choice and individualism and supported Trump no matter what his policy choice was. More often than not it was the opposite of what they advocated for just a few years earlier. 

    long time budget hawks all of a sudden favoured blank check spending 

    free trade which has long been a republican core idea went away in favour of tariffs and restricted trade. This kind of stuff is has long been the mission of the far left Now the right was suddenly embracing it.

    foreign policy got really weak.  The republicans have always been hawks on dictatorships particularly Russia. They slammed democrats for decades for being too soft.  All of a sudden though, Russia wasn’t a threat. 

    The list goes on and on 

    To me Trump isn’t the issue. It’s all the people who dropped a lifetime worth of ideals and positions like it was nothing to get in line for something they clearly don’t believe in but now pretend they do 

    What’s up with that?  Trump has always been Trump and what you see is what you get.  These other politicians though, I’ve never seen a more rapid and complete transformation of what they are for and what they are against. The Republican Party is now destroying Republicans for being Republicans.  Mind boggling 

    he could literally say “I’m pro choice” (which he actually is/was), and everyone would support him.  If he decided to make it a thing, you would see the entire Republican Party purge themselves of pro life politicians who opposed him for not being sufficiently loyal 



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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,455
    The Cult of Personality is a real thing. 
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,874

    This weekend we rock Portland
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Cropduster-80 said:
    The thing I don’t get about Trumpism which is ideologically different from decades of the republican platform is how he was able to convince everyone to change their position on numerous issues. 

    Republicans have historically held themselves up to be the “pro freedom” pro “individualism” and all those types of ideas. It’s the Democrats who were the sheep and the followers… or so the story goes. But when trump came along they all forgot about their long held positions, gave up their free choice and individualism and supported Trump no matter what his policy choice was. More often than not it was the opposite of what they advocated for just a few years earlier. 

    long time budget hawks all of a sudden favoured blank check spending 

    free trade which has long been a republican core idea went away in favour of tariffs and restricted trade. This kind of stuff is has long been the mission of the far left Now the right was suddenly embracing it.

    foreign policy got really weak.  The republicans have always been hawks on dictatorships particularly Russia. They slammed democrats for decades for being too soft.  All of a sudden though, Russia wasn’t a threat. 

    The list goes on and on 

    To me Trump isn’t the issue. It’s all the people who dropped a lifetime worth of ideals and positions like it was nothing to get in line for something they clearly don’t believe in but now pretend they do 

    What’s up with that?  Trump has always been Trump and what you see is what you get.  These other politicians though, I’ve never seen a more rapid and complete transformation of what they are for and what they are against. The Republican Party is now destroying Republicans for being Republicans.  Mind boggling 

    he could literally say “I’m pro choice” (which he actually is/was), and everyone would support him.  If he decided to make it a thing, you would see the entire Republican Party purge themselves of pro life politicians who opposed him for not being sufficiently loyal 




    Great observations, excellent questions.  I have absolutely no idea what it is about Trump that so many people are drawn to.  It truly is mind boggling.
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  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    From The Don'tald...


  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Finally calling out those turds.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,455
    Cropduster-80 said:
    The thing I don’t get about Trumpism which is ideologically different from decades of the republican platform is how he was able to convince everyone to change their position on numerous issues. 

    Republicans have historically held themselves up to be the “pro freedom” pro “individualism” and all those types of ideas. It’s the Democrats who were the sheep and the followers… or so the story goes. But when trump came along they all forgot about their long held positions, gave up their free choice and individualism and supported Trump no matter what his policy choice was. More often than not it was the opposite of what they advocated for just a few years earlier. 

    long time budget hawks all of a sudden favoured blank check spending 

    free trade which has long been a republican core idea went away in favour of tariffs and restricted trade. This kind of stuff is has long been the mission of the far left Now the right was suddenly embracing it.

    foreign policy got really weak.  The republicans have always been hawks on dictatorships particularly Russia. They slammed democrats for decades for being too soft.  All of a sudden though, Russia wasn’t a threat. 

    The list goes on and on 

    To me Trump isn’t the issue. It’s all the people who dropped a lifetime worth of ideals and positions like it was nothing to get in line for something they clearly don’t believe in but now pretend they do 

    What’s up with that?  Trump has always been Trump and what you see is what you get.  These other politicians though, I’ve never seen a more rapid and complete transformation of what they are for and what they are against. The Republican Party is now destroying Republicans for being Republicans.  Mind boggling 

    he could literally say “I’m pro choice” (which he actually is/was), and everyone would support him.  If he decided to make it a thing, you would see the entire Republican Party purge themselves of pro life politicians who opposed him for not being sufficiently loyal 



    no one cares about politics anymore; it's if "my guy" is in power. it doesn't matter what his policy positions were. he had none. he'd flip flop like his combover in the wind. he just did whatever he thought would benefit him directly or indirectly, no matter what. 

    he energized a very large group of idiots ("he talks just like me; I like that") that probably normally don't bother to go out and vote; the smart ones tagged along, knowing it was going to be a bumpy ride, but they'd benefit in the end.  

    and they'd dump him when he was no longer beneficial. problem is, he wasn't so easy to dump. hopefully that comes back to bite them in the ass during the primaries and they eat each other alive. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    DewieCox said:
    Finally calling out those turds.
    Yeah I was waiting for him to be more direct about it. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,358
    Hobbes said:
    From The Don'tald...



    anybody that does not think there was not massive election fraud.......


    I'm  not sure fuckstick knows what he has written here.....
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  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited December 2021
    mickeyrat said:
    Hobbes said:
    From The Don'tald...



    anybody that does not think there was not massive election fraud.......


    I'm  not sure fuckstick knows what he has written here.....
    I’m sure not a lot of the base are English majors.  


    I  don’t think that wasn’t the intent… or whatever 
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    Hobbes said:
    From The Don'tald...


    This is fantastic on so many levels - the best one being calling another stupid while demonstrating it first-hand. 

    What a loser.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,402
    Cropduster-80 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Hobbes said:
    From The Don'tald...



    anybody that does not think there was not massive election fraud.......


    I'm  not sure fuckstick knows what he has written here.....
    I’m sure not a lot of the base are English majors.  


    I  don’t think that wasn’t the intent… or whatever 

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    I hope everybody reads Heather Cox Richardson's letter after Mickyrat posts it tonight.  Some very heavy duty, serious shit there. 
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,069
    from the Guardian "And George Conway, a conservative critic married to a loyal Trump adviser, Kellyanne Conway, wrote: “Seriously, I usually don’t find it unsurprising when he says something that’s not inaccurate, but no one – not even the former guy – can be not correct all the time.”"  lol
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    static111 said:
    from the Guardian "And George Conway, a conservative critic married to a loyal Trump adviser, Kellyanne Conway, wrote: “Seriously, I usually don’t find it unsurprising when he says something that’s not inaccurate, but no one – not even the former guy – can be not correct all the time.”"  lol
    That's really funny.  Someone should map that sentence as a algebraic equation to see which side it comes out... I have no idea if it's a negative or positive statement. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,455
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    from the Guardian "And George Conway, a conservative critic married to a loyal Trump adviser, Kellyanne Conway, wrote: “Seriously, I usually don’t find it unsurprising when he says something that’s not inaccurate, but no one – not even the former guy – can be not correct all the time.”"  lol
    That's really funny.  Someone should map that sentence as a algebraic equation to see which side it comes out... I have no idea if it's a negative or positive statement. 
    I was going to say the same. I have no idea. I think he's trolling trump with that one. 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,039
    this situation absolutely calls for a really stupid and futile statement be put out on someone's part. and trump is just the person to do it.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,069
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    from the Guardian "And George Conway, a conservative critic married to a loyal Trump adviser, Kellyanne Conway, wrote: “Seriously, I usually don’t find it unsurprising when he says something that’s not inaccurate, but no one – not even the former guy – can be not correct all the time.”"  lol
    That's really funny.  Someone should map that sentence as a algebraic equation to see which side it comes out... I have no idea if it's a negative or positive statement. 
    I can't wait for Q to map trumps original and see what clues it provides!
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