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Ledbetterman10 said:cblock4life said:Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:Ledbetterman10 said:josevolution said:Ledbetterman10 said:josevolution said:Yeah who gives a shit when/how the virus got started at this point! Many lives could of been saved with a competent president but unfortunately we had an imbecile running the circus hence 100’s of thousand perished..
I already know Donald Trump is a shady asshole. It's Fauci who I'm interested in learning more about. Why be so dismissive of the lab theory? Covering his own ass knowing the NIH gave funding to the Wuhan lab?
i think the pushback on the wuhan lab theory was because they knew full well what would happen (and did happen, to some extent) if it gained traction: racist attacks on chinese people. and because trump was suggesting china did it as a bioweapon. had fauci and others come out and said, at that point, "we don't know anything yet" instead of outright calling it false, people would have gone berserk, calling for WW3 on China. we could easily have had another cold war on our hands, during a pandemic, with trump at the helm.
that's a trifecta for a massive fuck up.
I disagree with the second paragraph. I just don't get how it's racist to suggest Chinese scientists fucked up and that might the cause, but it's not racist to suggest that China's filthy, inhumane wet markets might be the cause. Why would one cause racist attacks on Chinese Americans and not the other? I also don't think saying "We don't know anything yet" would have led to people going berserk on China. But even if that was the fear, it's still better to be honest and say "we're not sure yet" than it is to dismiss one of the possible causes (the lab). That makes it looks as if scientists like Fauci were covering for China. So now you get the same anger towards China that you would've gotten a year ago, but coupled with anger towards people like Fauci who we're supposed to trust.
In fact, if he didn't vilify Fauci and just stayed neutral, maybe everyone would see Fauci for what he is. But nope, Trump made him his enemy, so by proxy, he became an ally of the left.
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my bad. I read this "who allowed that baby to lie month after month shouldn’t be held responsible for their non-actions" as referring to Fauci. I now realize it was in reference to Trump.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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HughFreakingDillon said:my bad. I read this "who allowed that baby to lie month after month shouldn’t be held responsible for their non-actions" as referring to Fauci. I now realize it was in reference to Trump.
my stance that I don’t like Trump, as someone earlier suggested he’s my “hero” cause I’m not a fan o’ Fauci.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Halifax2TheMax said:23scidoo said:Halifax2TheMax said:Nobody around here can handle the TRUTH!It is. But you’re conceding here that Fauci, the scientist, is Trump-like.Frankly, while being critical of that magazine picture, and certainly making fun of his first pitch, upsets some of you, I shouldn’t have posted that. It just distracts from the real issue that I was posting about before that; Fauci funding the gain of function research, which I’m sure was done in good faith. But when shit went wrong at the lab, he went to great lengths to discredit the lab theory even though that’s not being transparent. So on the levels of Trumpist behavior, I’d rather troll on a message board than lie to the public about important scientific information.
I get it, people need to vilify Fauci to try make trump look less bad. It is what it is. Was the guy perfect? Not at all, but he didn't walk away which would have been the path of least resistance, he stuck around & tried to do his job under absurd and unnecessary circumstances created by that orange fuckstick.
I couldn't give a shit about how he throws out a first pitch, or whether or not he was on a magazine cover.
& talk about trump like... when all else fails, just say he throws like a girl.
JFC
I'm not a fan of any of them, truth be told, but your criticisms of fauci are piss poor, and when called out on it, you resorted to trolling.
It is what it is.
So now the problem isn't that he was lying, it's that he wasn't transparent about something being a possibility.
Got it. Not the strongest point IMO, but take what you can get I guess.
RE: The magazine cover, that was one of your three big critiques of him, calling him an attention whore for it. But now it isn't all that relevant? But at the same time, it ISN'T a piss poor criticism?
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Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:my bad. I read this "who allowed that baby to lie month after month shouldn’t be held responsible for their non-actions" as referring to Fauci. I now realize it was in reference to Trump.
my stance that I don’t like Trump, as someone earlier suggested he’s my “hero” cause I’m not a fan o’ Fauci.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Halifax2TheMax said:23scidoo said:Halifax2TheMax said:Nobody around here can handle the TRUTH!It is. But you’re conceding here that Fauci, the scientist, is Trump-like.Frankly, while being critical of that magazine picture, and certainly making fun of his first pitch, upsets some of you, I shouldn’t have posted that. It just distracts from the real issue that I was posting about before that; Fauci funding the gain of function research, which I’m sure was done in good faith. But when shit went wrong at the lab, he went to great lengths to discredit the lab theory even though that’s not being transparent. So on the levels of Trumpist behavior, I’d rather troll on a message board than lie to the public about important scientific information.
I get it, people need to vilify Fauci to try make trump look less bad. It is what it is. Was the guy perfect? Not at all, but he didn't walk away which would have been the path of least resistance, he stuck around & tried to do his job under absurd and unnecessary circumstances created by that orange fuckstick.
I couldn't give a shit about how he throws out a first pitch, or whether or not he was on a magazine cover.
& talk about trump like... when all else fails, just say he throws like a girl.
JFC
I'm not a fan of any of them, truth be told, but your criticisms of fauci are piss poor, and when called out on it, you resorted to trolling.
It is what it is.
So now the problem isn't that he was lying, it's that he wasn't transparent about something being a possibility.
Got it. Not the strongest point IMO, but take what you can get I guess.
RE: The magazine cover, that was one of your three big critiques of him, calling him an attention whore for it. But now it isn't all that relevant? But at the same time, it ISN'T a piss poor criticism?
Ok.Attention whore was one three critiques, but not a big one like you’re making it out to be. By far the smallest actually. Certainly not one that is relevant to Fauci’s influence on the public. That’s why I said I regret even mentioning it. It’s small potatoes compared to being a scientist that dismissed the possible (and let’s face it, likely) cause of a disease.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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HughFreakingDillon said:Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:my bad. I read this "who allowed that baby to lie month after month shouldn’t be held responsible for their non-actions" as referring to Fauci. I now realize it was in reference to Trump.
my stance that I don’t like Trump, as someone earlier suggested he’s my “hero” cause I’m not a fan o’ Fauci.
maybe all this Fauci talk would be better suited for the coronavirus thread. Eliminate Trump from the equation.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Halifax2TheMax said:23scidoo said:Halifax2TheMax said:Nobody around here can handle the TRUTH!It is. But you’re conceding here that Fauci, the scientist, is Trump-like.Frankly, while being critical of that magazine picture, and certainly making fun of his first pitch, upsets some of you, I shouldn’t have posted that. It just distracts from the real issue that I was posting about before that; Fauci funding the gain of function research, which I’m sure was done in good faith. But when shit went wrong at the lab, he went to great lengths to discredit the lab theory even though that’s not being transparent. So on the levels of Trumpist behavior, I’d rather troll on a message board than lie to the public about important scientific information.
I get it, people need to vilify Fauci to try make trump look less bad. It is what it is. Was the guy perfect? Not at all, but he didn't walk away which would have been the path of least resistance, he stuck around & tried to do his job under absurd and unnecessary circumstances created by that orange fuckstick.
I couldn't give a shit about how he throws out a first pitch, or whether or not he was on a magazine cover.
& talk about trump like... when all else fails, just say he throws like a girl.
JFC
I'm not a fan of any of them, truth be told, but your criticisms of fauci are piss poor, and when called out on it, you resorted to trolling.
It is what it is.
So now the problem isn't that he was lying, it's that he wasn't transparent about something being a possibility.
Got it. Not the strongest point IMO, but take what you can get I guess.
RE: The magazine cover, that was one of your three big critiques of him, calling him an attention whore for it. But now it isn't all that relevant? But at the same time, it ISN'T a piss poor criticism?
Ok.Attention whore was one three critiques, but not a big one like you’re making it out to be. By far the smallest actually. Certainly not one that is relevant to Fauci’s influence on the public. That’s why I said I regret even mentioning it. It’s small potatoes compared to being a scientist that dismissed the possible (and let’s face it, likely) cause of a disease.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Halifax2TheMax said:23scidoo said:Halifax2TheMax said:Nobody around here can handle the TRUTH!It is. But you’re conceding here that Fauci, the scientist, is Trump-like.Frankly, while being critical of that magazine picture, and certainly making fun of his first pitch, upsets some of you, I shouldn’t have posted that. It just distracts from the real issue that I was posting about before that; Fauci funding the gain of function research, which I’m sure was done in good faith. But when shit went wrong at the lab, he went to great lengths to discredit the lab theory even though that’s not being transparent. So on the levels of Trumpist behavior, I’d rather troll on a message board than lie to the public about important scientific information.
I get it, people need to vilify Fauci to try make trump look less bad. It is what it is. Was the guy perfect? Not at all, but he didn't walk away which would have been the path of least resistance, he stuck around & tried to do his job under absurd and unnecessary circumstances created by that orange fuckstick.
I couldn't give a shit about how he throws out a first pitch, or whether or not he was on a magazine cover.
& talk about trump like... when all else fails, just say he throws like a girl.
JFC
I'm not a fan of any of them, truth be told, but your criticisms of fauci are piss poor, and when called out on it, you resorted to trolling.
It is what it is.
So now the problem isn't that he was lying, it's that he wasn't transparent about something being a possibility.
Got it. Not the strongest point IMO, but take what you can get I guess.
RE: The magazine cover, that was one of your three big critiques of him, calling him an attention whore for it. But now it isn't all that relevant? But at the same time, it ISN'T a piss poor criticism?
Ok.Attention whore was one three critiques, but not a big one like you’re making it out to be. By far the smallest actually. Certainly not one that is relevant to Fauci’s influence on the public. That’s why I said I regret even mentioning it. It’s small potatoes compared to being a scientist that dismissed the possible (and let’s face it, likely) cause of a disease.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Now Fauci is an "attention whore" because he did one photo shoot for in style magazine. Really? Come on. I know you are not a Trump fan, but a lot of the things you are saying about him could very easily have come out of Trump's mouth, and probably did.www.myspace.com0
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The Juggler said:Now Fauci is an "attention whore" because he did one photo shoot for in style magazine. Really? Come on. I know you are not a Trump fan, but a lot of the things you are saying about him could very easily have come out of Trump's mouth, and probably did.
This is why I made the hero comment... if you're going to act like someone, you should be prepared for people to call you out on it.0 -
The Juggler said:Now Fauci is an "attention whore" because he did one photo shoot for in style magazine. Really? Come on. I know you are not a Trump fan, but a lot of the things you are saying about him could very easily have come out of Trump's mouth, and probably did.0
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mrussel1 said:The Juggler said:Now Fauci is an "attention whore" because he did one photo shoot for in style magazine. Really? Come on. I know you are not a Trump fan, but a lot of the things you are saying about him could very easily have come out of Trump's mouth, and probably did.
https://www.instyle.com/news/dr-fauci-says-with-all-due-modesty-i-think-im-pretty-effective
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The Juggler said:Now Fauci is an "attention whore" because he did one photo shoot for in style magazine. Really? Come on. I know you are not a Trump fan, but a lot of the things you are saying about him could very easily have come out of Trump's mouth, and probably did.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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HughFreakingDillon said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Halifax2TheMax said:23scidoo said:Halifax2TheMax said:Nobody around here can handle the TRUTH!It is. But you’re conceding here that Fauci, the scientist, is Trump-like.Frankly, while being critical of that magazine picture, and certainly making fun of his first pitch, upsets some of you, I shouldn’t have posted that. It just distracts from the real issue that I was posting about before that; Fauci funding the gain of function research, which I’m sure was done in good faith. But when shit went wrong at the lab, he went to great lengths to discredit the lab theory even though that’s not being transparent. So on the levels of Trumpist behavior, I’d rather troll on a message board than lie to the public about important scientific information.
I get it, people need to vilify Fauci to try make trump look less bad. It is what it is. Was the guy perfect? Not at all, but he didn't walk away which would have been the path of least resistance, he stuck around & tried to do his job under absurd and unnecessary circumstances created by that orange fuckstick.
I couldn't give a shit about how he throws out a first pitch, or whether or not he was on a magazine cover.
& talk about trump like... when all else fails, just say he throws like a girl.
JFC
I'm not a fan of any of them, truth be told, but your criticisms of fauci are piss poor, and when called out on it, you resorted to trolling.
It is what it is.
So now the problem isn't that he was lying, it's that he wasn't transparent about something being a possibility.
Got it. Not the strongest point IMO, but take what you can get I guess.
RE: The magazine cover, that was one of your three big critiques of him, calling him an attention whore for it. But now it isn't all that relevant? But at the same time, it ISN'T a piss poor criticism?
Ok.Attention whore was one three critiques, but not a big one like you’re making it out to be. By far the smallest actually. Certainly not one that is relevant to Fauci’s influence on the public. That’s why I said I regret even mentioning it. It’s small potatoes compared to being a scientist that dismissed the possible (and let’s face it, likely) cause of a disease.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Halifax2TheMax said:23scidoo said:Halifax2TheMax said:Nobody around here can handle the TRUTH!It is. But you’re conceding here that Fauci, the scientist, is Trump-like.Frankly, while being critical of that magazine picture, and certainly making fun of his first pitch, upsets some of you, I shouldn’t have posted that. It just distracts from the real issue that I was posting about before that; Fauci funding the gain of function research, which I’m sure was done in good faith. But when shit went wrong at the lab, he went to great lengths to discredit the lab theory even though that’s not being transparent. So on the levels of Trumpist behavior, I’d rather troll on a message board than lie to the public about important scientific information.
I get it, people need to vilify Fauci to try make trump look less bad. It is what it is. Was the guy perfect? Not at all, but he didn't walk away which would have been the path of least resistance, he stuck around & tried to do his job under absurd and unnecessary circumstances created by that orange fuckstick.
I couldn't give a shit about how he throws out a first pitch, or whether or not he was on a magazine cover.
& talk about trump like... when all else fails, just say he throws like a girl.
JFC
I'm not a fan of any of them, truth be told, but your criticisms of fauci are piss poor, and when called out on it, you resorted to trolling.
It is what it is.
So now the problem isn't that he was lying, it's that he wasn't transparent about something being a possibility.
Got it. Not the strongest point IMO, but take what you can get I guess.
RE: The magazine cover, that was one of your three big critiques of him, calling him an attention whore for it. But now it isn't all that relevant? But at the same time, it ISN'T a piss poor criticism?
Ok.Attention whore was one three critiques, but not a big one like you’re making it out to be. By far the smallest actually. Certainly not one that is relevant to Fauci’s influence on the public. That’s why I said I regret even mentioning it. It’s small potatoes compared to being a scientist that dismissed the possible (and let’s face it, likely) cause of a disease.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Halifax2TheMax said:23scidoo said:Halifax2TheMax said:Nobody around here can handle the TRUTH!It is. But you’re conceding here that Fauci, the scientist, is Trump-like.Frankly, while being critical of that magazine picture, and certainly making fun of his first pitch, upsets some of you, I shouldn’t have posted that. It just distracts from the real issue that I was posting about before that; Fauci funding the gain of function research, which I’m sure was done in good faith. But when shit went wrong at the lab, he went to great lengths to discredit the lab theory even though that’s not being transparent. So on the levels of Trumpist behavior, I’d rather troll on a message board than lie to the public about important scientific information.
I get it, people need to vilify Fauci to try make trump look less bad. It is what it is. Was the guy perfect? Not at all, but he didn't walk away which would have been the path of least resistance, he stuck around & tried to do his job under absurd and unnecessary circumstances created by that orange fuckstick.
I couldn't give a shit about how he throws out a first pitch, or whether or not he was on a magazine cover.
& talk about trump like... when all else fails, just say he throws like a girl.
JFC
I'm not a fan of any of them, truth be told, but your criticisms of fauci are piss poor, and when called out on it, you resorted to trolling.
It is what it is.
So now the problem isn't that he was lying, it's that he wasn't transparent about something being a possibility.
Got it. Not the strongest point IMO, but take what you can get I guess.
RE: The magazine cover, that was one of your three big critiques of him, calling him an attention whore for it. But now it isn't all that relevant? But at the same time, it ISN'T a piss poor criticism?
Ok.Attention whore was one three critiques, but not a big one like you’re making it out to be. By far the smallest actually. Certainly not one that is relevant to Fauci’s influence on the public. That’s why I said I regret even mentioning it. It’s small potatoes compared to being a scientist that dismissed the possible (and let’s face it, likely) cause of a disease.www.myspace.com0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Halifax2TheMax said:23scidoo said:Halifax2TheMax said:Nobody around here can handle the TRUTH!It is. But you’re conceding here that Fauci, the scientist, is Trump-like.Frankly, while being critical of that magazine picture, and certainly making fun of his first pitch, upsets some of you, I shouldn’t have posted that. It just distracts from the real issue that I was posting about before that; Fauci funding the gain of function research, which I’m sure was done in good faith. But when shit went wrong at the lab, he went to great lengths to discredit the lab theory even though that’s not being transparent. So on the levels of Trumpist behavior, I’d rather troll on a message board than lie to the public about important scientific information.
I get it, people need to vilify Fauci to try make trump look less bad. It is what it is. Was the guy perfect? Not at all, but he didn't walk away which would have been the path of least resistance, he stuck around & tried to do his job under absurd and unnecessary circumstances created by that orange fuckstick.
I couldn't give a shit about how he throws out a first pitch, or whether or not he was on a magazine cover.
& talk about trump like... when all else fails, just say he throws like a girl.
JFC
I'm not a fan of any of them, truth be told, but your criticisms of fauci are piss poor, and when called out on it, you resorted to trolling.
It is what it is.
So now the problem isn't that he was lying, it's that he wasn't transparent about something being a possibility.
Got it. Not the strongest point IMO, but take what you can get I guess.
RE: The magazine cover, that was one of your three big critiques of him, calling him an attention whore for it. But now it isn't all that relevant? But at the same time, it ISN'T a piss poor criticism?
Ok.Attention whore was one three critiques, but not a big one like you’re making it out to be. By far the smallest actually. Certainly not one that is relevant to Fauci’s influence on the public. That’s why I said I regret even mentioning it. It’s small potatoes compared to being a scientist that dismissed the possible (and let’s face it, likely) cause of a disease.
& we also already have the anger towards our own leaders and scientists (as evidenced in this very thread), so back to my point from yesterday: what will change if it comes out that this actually did originate in a lab?
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Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Halifax2TheMax said:23scidoo said:Halifax2TheMax said:Nobody around here can handle the TRUTH!It is. But you’re conceding here that Fauci, the scientist, is Trump-like.Frankly, while being critical of that magazine picture, and certainly making fun of his first pitch, upsets some of you, I shouldn’t have posted that. It just distracts from the real issue that I was posting about before that; Fauci funding the gain of function research, which I’m sure was done in good faith. But when shit went wrong at the lab, he went to great lengths to discredit the lab theory even though that’s not being transparent. So on the levels of Trumpist behavior, I’d rather troll on a message board than lie to the public about important scientific information.
I get it, people need to vilify Fauci to try make trump look less bad. It is what it is. Was the guy perfect? Not at all, but he didn't walk away which would have been the path of least resistance, he stuck around & tried to do his job under absurd and unnecessary circumstances created by that orange fuckstick.
I couldn't give a shit about how he throws out a first pitch, or whether or not he was on a magazine cover.
& talk about trump like... when all else fails, just say he throws like a girl.
JFC
I'm not a fan of any of them, truth be told, but your criticisms of fauci are piss poor, and when called out on it, you resorted to trolling.
It is what it is.
So now the problem isn't that he was lying, it's that he wasn't transparent about something being a possibility.
Got it. Not the strongest point IMO, but take what you can get I guess.
RE: The magazine cover, that was one of your three big critiques of him, calling him an attention whore for it. But now it isn't all that relevant? But at the same time, it ISN'T a piss poor criticism?
Ok.Attention whore was one three critiques, but not a big one like you’re making it out to be. By far the smallest actually. Certainly not one that is relevant to Fauci’s influence on the public. That’s why I said I regret even mentioning it. It’s small potatoes compared to being a scientist that dismissed the possible (and let’s face it, likely) cause of a disease.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
oftenreading said:Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Ledbetterman10 said:Merkin Baller said:Halifax2TheMax said:23scidoo said:Halifax2TheMax said:Nobody around here can handle the TRUTH!It is. But you’re conceding here that Fauci, the scientist, is Trump-like.Frankly, while being critical of that magazine picture, and certainly making fun of his first pitch, upsets some of you, I shouldn’t have posted that. It just distracts from the real issue that I was posting about before that; Fauci funding the gain of function research, which I’m sure was done in good faith. But when shit went wrong at the lab, he went to great lengths to discredit the lab theory even though that’s not being transparent. So on the levels of Trumpist behavior, I’d rather troll on a message board than lie to the public about important scientific information.
I get it, people need to vilify Fauci to try make trump look less bad. It is what it is. Was the guy perfect? Not at all, but he didn't walk away which would have been the path of least resistance, he stuck around & tried to do his job under absurd and unnecessary circumstances created by that orange fuckstick.
I couldn't give a shit about how he throws out a first pitch, or whether or not he was on a magazine cover.
& talk about trump like... when all else fails, just say he throws like a girl.
JFC
I'm not a fan of any of them, truth be told, but your criticisms of fauci are piss poor, and when called out on it, you resorted to trolling.
It is what it is.
So now the problem isn't that he was lying, it's that he wasn't transparent about something being a possibility.
Got it. Not the strongest point IMO, but take what you can get I guess.
RE: The magazine cover, that was one of your three big critiques of him, calling him an attention whore for it. But now it isn't all that relevant? But at the same time, it ISN'T a piss poor criticism?
Ok.Attention whore was one three critiques, but not a big one like you’re making it out to be. By far the smallest actually. Certainly not one that is relevant to Fauci’s influence on the public. That’s why I said I regret even mentioning it. It’s small potatoes compared to being a scientist that dismissed the possible (and let’s face it, likely) cause of a disease.
In fairness to him, I'm not sure what evidence he is citing. So maybe there was evidence for that. But there also seems to have been evidence to the contrary. Meaning both theories should've been in play. So to lean "very, very strongly" one way in May 2020 seems disingenuous. Especially considering he's familiar with the experiments being done at the Wuhan lab.
As for downplaying unproven and scary theories. I don't see what's so scary about the theory that it could've originated by a lab error. I think it's scarier to think there's disease-ridden bats biting people and that caused a worldwide pandemic.
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