Donald Trump

1226422652267226922702954

Comments

  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,332
    JW269453 said:
    JW269453 said:
    https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN239347?__twitter_impression=true 

    Looks like the old law and order fake tough guy stuff ain’t working anymore. 55% disapprove of Trump’s handling of the protests. 

    -
    So 45% approve of his "handling of the protests? The fuck???
    What we know is 55% of the 1,004 people they asked disapprove. I get polls, but I don’t put a whole lot of stock into something that is assuming the feelings of the other 329,735,410 people that call this country home. Maybe it is just me but .00000304% of anything is a little too small of a sample size to run with. This is real life for those in areas where protests have turned nasty, but only a TV show for the others. One of those opinions holds a little more weight for me when it comes to the approval of how this is being handled.
    329 million + Americans don’t vote nor are they all eligible to do so. Keep clinging.
    Clinging? You’re right. I forgot some people think the opinions of non voters and minors don’t matter. Let’s just use the voters opinions only as a gauge then. The 2016 voter turnout was 138,847,000. We are now assuming the opinions of the other 138,845,996 elites. Does this new .00000723% move your meter that much? 
     Other’s opinions don’t get to pull the lever though do they? So, extrapolating as you did is flawed. You’re from Texas, right? Fuzzy math, I get it. Keep clinging.
    Morning sunshine! A poll is the perfect example of extrapolating, it is just one you choose to except. I am sorry my residence brings out your prejudice, it must be difficult trying to harbor all of those feelings. Forgive me for not moving the decimal while trying to remember such a ridiculous percentage, .000723 it makes such a difference in this instance doesn't it?
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Arguing the validity of polls when we have decades of proof of how accurate they are is peak America 2020. 
    www.myspace.com
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN239347?__twitter_impression=true 

    Looks like the old law and order fake tough guy stuff ain’t working anymore. 55% disapprove of Trump’s handling of the protests. 

    -
    538 has moved from 10.2 to 11.5 in the gap between approve and disapprove in two days. Team Trump Treason is going to be left with his base of 35% come Election Day. The true deplorables.
    Yup. Hence his increasingly erratic behavior. 
    www.myspace.com
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    JW269453 said:
    JW269453 said:
    JW269453 said:
    https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN239347?__twitter_impression=true 

    Looks like the old law and order fake tough guy stuff ain’t working anymore. 55% disapprove of Trump’s handling of the protests. 

    -
    So 45% approve of his "handling of the protests? The fuck???
    What we know is 55% of the 1,004 people they asked disapprove. I get polls, but I don’t put a whole lot of stock into something that is assuming the feelings of the other 329,735,410 people that call this country home. Maybe it is just me but .00000304% of anything is a little too small of a sample size to run with. This is real life for those in areas where protests have turned nasty, but only a TV show for the others. One of those opinions holds a little more weight for me when it comes to the approval of how this is being handled.
    329 million + Americans don’t vote nor are they all eligible to do so. Keep clinging.
    Clinging? You’re right. I forgot some people think the opinions of non voters and minors don’t matter. Let’s just use the voters opinions only as a gauge then. The 2016 voter turnout was 138,847,000. We are now assuming the opinions of the other 138,845,996 elites. Does this new .00000723% move your meter that much? 
     Other’s opinions don’t get to pull the lever though do they? So, extrapolating as you did is flawed. You’re from Texas, right? Fuzzy math, I get it. Keep clinging.
    Morning sunshine! A poll is the perfect example of extrapolating, it is just one you choose to except. I am sorry my residence brings out your prejudice, it must be difficult trying to harbor all of those feelings. Forgive me for not moving the decimal while trying to remember such a ridiculous percentage, .000723 it makes such a difference in this instance doesn't it?
    Do you think statistics has a liberal bias or something?  There's no mathematical question that the sample size used is predictive.  In corporations, they generally use a 95/5/5 interval, so this appears to be 95/2/3 which is very precise.  The only squirlley part for any of these is how the participants define themselves politically, and therefore how you break down the demos.  
  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,332
    mrussel1 said:
    JW269453 said:
    JW269453 said:
    JW269453 said:
    https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN239347?__twitter_impression=true 

    Looks like the old law and order fake tough guy stuff ain’t working anymore. 55% disapprove of Trump’s handling of the protests. 

    -
    So 45% approve of his "handling of the protests? The fuck???
    What we know is 55% of the 1,004 people they asked disapprove. I get polls, but I don’t put a whole lot of stock into something that is assuming the feelings of the other 329,735,410 people that call this country home. Maybe it is just me but .00000304% of anything is a little too small of a sample size to run with. This is real life for those in areas where protests have turned nasty, but only a TV show for the others. One of those opinions holds a little more weight for me when it comes to the approval of how this is being handled.
    329 million + Americans don’t vote nor are they all eligible to do so. Keep clinging.
    Clinging? You’re right. I forgot some people think the opinions of non voters and minors don’t matter. Let’s just use the voters opinions only as a gauge then. The 2016 voter turnout was 138,847,000. We are now assuming the opinions of the other 138,845,996 elites. Does this new .00000723% move your meter that much? 
     Other’s opinions don’t get to pull the lever though do they? So, extrapolating as you did is flawed. You’re from Texas, right? Fuzzy math, I get it. Keep clinging.
    Morning sunshine! A poll is the perfect example of extrapolating, it is just one you choose to except. I am sorry my residence brings out your prejudice, it must be difficult trying to harbor all of those feelings. Forgive me for not moving the decimal while trying to remember such a ridiculous percentage, .000723 it makes such a difference in this instance doesn't it?
    Do you think statistics has a liberal bias or something?  There's no mathematical question that the sample size used is predictive.  In corporations, they generally use a 95/5/5 interval, so this appears to be 95/2/3 which is very precise.  The only squirlley part for any of these is how the participants define themselves politically, and therefore how you break down the demos.  
    As per usual, I'm confused as to why my comment was seen as pro trump or anti liberal. It is simple, I do not put much stock in something that can be viewed completely different depending on your situation. Most of us have never witnessed what is going on right now to this extent so assuming the approval or disapproval of literally everyone seems like buzzfeed quiz level nonsense. Then again I'm the one who doesn't have an agenda to fulfill so I take these things with a grain of salt while others shout from the rooftops.

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    JW269453 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JW269453 said:
    JW269453 said:
    JW269453 said:
    https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN239347?__twitter_impression=true 

    Looks like the old law and order fake tough guy stuff ain’t working anymore. 55% disapprove of Trump’s handling of the protests. 

    -
    So 45% approve of his "handling of the protests? The fuck???
    What we know is 55% of the 1,004 people they asked disapprove. I get polls, but I don’t put a whole lot of stock into something that is assuming the feelings of the other 329,735,410 people that call this country home. Maybe it is just me but .00000304% of anything is a little too small of a sample size to run with. This is real life for those in areas where protests have turned nasty, but only a TV show for the others. One of those opinions holds a little more weight for me when it comes to the approval of how this is being handled.
    329 million + Americans don’t vote nor are they all eligible to do so. Keep clinging.
    Clinging? You’re right. I forgot some people think the opinions of non voters and minors don’t matter. Let’s just use the voters opinions only as a gauge then. The 2016 voter turnout was 138,847,000. We are now assuming the opinions of the other 138,845,996 elites. Does this new .00000723% move your meter that much? 
     Other’s opinions don’t get to pull the lever though do they? So, extrapolating as you did is flawed. You’re from Texas, right? Fuzzy math, I get it. Keep clinging.
    Morning sunshine! A poll is the perfect example of extrapolating, it is just one you choose to except. I am sorry my residence brings out your prejudice, it must be difficult trying to harbor all of those feelings. Forgive me for not moving the decimal while trying to remember such a ridiculous percentage, .000723 it makes such a difference in this instance doesn't it?
    Do you think statistics has a liberal bias or something?  There's no mathematical question that the sample size used is predictive.  In corporations, they generally use a 95/5/5 interval, so this appears to be 95/2/3 which is very precise.  The only squirlley part for any of these is how the participants define themselves politically, and therefore how you break down the demos.  
    As per usual, I'm confused as to why my comment was seen as pro trump or anti liberal. It is simple, I do not put much stock in something that can be viewed completely different depending on your situation. Most of us have never witnessed what is going on right now to this extent so assuming the approval or disapproval of literally everyone seems like buzzfeed quiz level nonsense. Then again I'm the one who doesn't have an agenda to fulfill so I take these things with a grain of salt while others shout from the rooftops.

    Polling, when done correctly by pros, is absolutely indicative of the larger population.  So there's no reason to believe that his approval is actually 65% when the poll says 45%, as an example.  Now I'm guessing the MOE is about 3-4%, so that means approval ranges from from 41-49% essentially.  Unless you're arguing the questions were unclear or leading... 
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,831
    Is that a bucket of KFC under that suit jacket and did Team Trump Treason grow a Kardashian ass? Damn boy, dats some binge stress eating!


    classy
    No it's cool.  If you don't like someone you can say stuff like that.  It's when you do that is not ok.  
    hippiemom = goodness
  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,332
    mrussel1 said:
    JW269453 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JW269453 said:
    JW269453 said:
    JW269453 said:
    https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN239347?__twitter_impression=true 

    Looks like the old law and order fake tough guy stuff ain’t working anymore. 55% disapprove of Trump’s handling of the protests. 

    -
    So 45% approve of his "handling of the protests? The fuck???
    What we know is 55% of the 1,004 people they asked disapprove. I get polls, but I don’t put a whole lot of stock into something that is assuming the feelings of the other 329,735,410 people that call this country home. Maybe it is just me but .00000304% of anything is a little too small of a sample size to run with. This is real life for those in areas where protests have turned nasty, but only a TV show for the others. One of those opinions holds a little more weight for me when it comes to the approval of how this is being handled.
    329 million + Americans don’t vote nor are they all eligible to do so. Keep clinging.
    Clinging? You’re right. I forgot some people think the opinions of non voters and minors don’t matter. Let’s just use the voters opinions only as a gauge then. The 2016 voter turnout was 138,847,000. We are now assuming the opinions of the other 138,845,996 elites. Does this new .00000723% move your meter that much? 
     Other’s opinions don’t get to pull the lever though do they? So, extrapolating as you did is flawed. You’re from Texas, right? Fuzzy math, I get it. Keep clinging.
    Morning sunshine! A poll is the perfect example of extrapolating, it is just one you choose to except. I am sorry my residence brings out your prejudice, it must be difficult trying to harbor all of those feelings. Forgive me for not moving the decimal while trying to remember such a ridiculous percentage, .000723 it makes such a difference in this instance doesn't it?
    Do you think statistics has a liberal bias or something?  There's no mathematical question that the sample size used is predictive.  In corporations, they generally use a 95/5/5 interval, so this appears to be 95/2/3 which is very precise.  The only squirlley part for any of these is how the participants define themselves politically, and therefore how you break down the demos.  
    As per usual, I'm confused as to why my comment was seen as pro trump or anti liberal. It is simple, I do not put much stock in something that can be viewed completely different depending on your situation. Most of us have never witnessed what is going on right now to this extent so assuming the approval or disapproval of literally everyone seems like buzzfeed quiz level nonsense. Then again I'm the one who doesn't have an agenda to fulfill so I take these things with a grain of salt while others shout from the rooftops.

    Polling, when done correctly by pros, is absolutely indicative of the larger population.  So there's no reason to believe that his approval is actually 65% when the poll says 45%, as an example.  Now I'm guessing the MOE is about 3-4%, so that means approval ranges from from 41-49% essentially.  Unless you're arguing the questions were unclear or leading... 
    Who did they poll? People who were watching their neighborhoods get destroyed, people who only dealt with peaceful protests, or people who have watched everything unfold from a place that is unaffected. In this specific situation, if the sample size does not include all 3 scenarios I would be leery of this being an accurate representation.

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,124
    Is that a bucket of KFC under that suit jacket and did Team Trump Treason grow a Kardashian ass? Damn boy, dats some binge stress eating!


    classy
    No it's cool.  If you don't like someone you can say stuff like that.  It's when you do that is not ok.  
    You know what’s really cool? Team Trump Treason calling a former FLOTUS, Senator, SOS and presidential candidate that won 3 million more votes than him a skank and an African American senate candidate from SC having appeared to have visited every buffet in the state. And that’s okay, because it’s classy and there’s freedom of speech, yo.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

    Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.

    Brilliantati©
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,831
    Is that a bucket of KFC under that suit jacket and did Team Trump Treason grow a Kardashian ass? Damn boy, dats some binge stress eating!


    classy
    No it's cool.  If you don't like someone you can say stuff like that.  It's when you do that is not ok.  
    You know what’s really cool? Team Trump Treason calling a former FLOTUS, Senator, SOS and presidential candidate that won 3 million more votes than him a skank and an African American senate candidate from SC having appeared to have visited every buffet in the state. And that’s okay, because it’s classy and there’s freedom of speech, yo.
    Yup that ain’t cool. If you hate something...
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,956
    edited June 2020
    How we speak to each other is extremely important here. Please review the Posting Guidelines and remember to be polite...even when you strongly disagree with someone. It's possible to be passionate and speak politely. If you can't do that, it might be better to stop posting for awhile. Thank you.

    Post edited by Kat on
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    Is that a bucket of KFC under that suit jacket and did Team Trump Treason grow a Kardashian ass? Damn boy, dats some binge stress eating!


    classy
    No it's cool.  If you don't like someone you can say stuff like that.  It's when you do that is not ok.  
    You know what’s really cool? Team Trump Treason calling a former FLOTUS, Senator, SOS and presidential candidate that won 3 million more votes than him a skank and an African American senate candidate from SC having appeared to have visited every buffet in the state. And that’s okay, because it’s classy and there’s freedom of speech, yo.
    As long as it is done to own libs then it's all good
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    edited June 2020
    Poor Halifax. Settling for analyzing Trump's ass when he really wants to analyze the pee tape. 
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1

    Pearl Jam bootlegs:
    http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,124
    Poor Halifax. Settling for analyzing Trump's ass when he really wants to analyze the pee tape. 
    Poor? I’m rich with material, yo.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

    Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.

    Brilliantati©
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    JW269453 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JW269453 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JW269453 said:
    JW269453 said:
    JW269453 said:
    https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN239347?__twitter_impression=true 

    Looks like the old law and order fake tough guy stuff ain’t working anymore. 55% disapprove of Trump’s handling of the protests. 

    -
    So 45% approve of his "handling of the protests? The fuck???
    What we know is 55% of the 1,004 people they asked disapprove. I get polls, but I don’t put a whole lot of stock into something that is assuming the feelings of the other 329,735,410 people that call this country home. Maybe it is just me but .00000304% of anything is a little too small of a sample size to run with. This is real life for those in areas where protests have turned nasty, but only a TV show for the others. One of those opinions holds a little more weight for me when it comes to the approval of how this is being handled.
    329 million + Americans don’t vote nor are they all eligible to do so. Keep clinging.
    Clinging? You’re right. I forgot some people think the opinions of non voters and minors don’t matter. Let’s just use the voters opinions only as a gauge then. The 2016 voter turnout was 138,847,000. We are now assuming the opinions of the other 138,845,996 elites. Does this new .00000723% move your meter that much? 
     Other’s opinions don’t get to pull the lever though do they? So, extrapolating as you did is flawed. You’re from Texas, right? Fuzzy math, I get it. Keep clinging.
    Morning sunshine! A poll is the perfect example of extrapolating, it is just one you choose to except. I am sorry my residence brings out your prejudice, it must be difficult trying to harbor all of those feelings. Forgive me for not moving the decimal while trying to remember such a ridiculous percentage, .000723 it makes such a difference in this instance doesn't it?
    Do you think statistics has a liberal bias or something?  There's no mathematical question that the sample size used is predictive.  In corporations, they generally use a 95/5/5 interval, so this appears to be 95/2/3 which is very precise.  The only squirlley part for any of these is how the participants define themselves politically, and therefore how you break down the demos.  
    As per usual, I'm confused as to why my comment was seen as pro trump or anti liberal. It is simple, I do not put much stock in something that can be viewed completely different depending on your situation. Most of us have never witnessed what is going on right now to this extent so assuming the approval or disapproval of literally everyone seems like buzzfeed quiz level nonsense. Then again I'm the one who doesn't have an agenda to fulfill so I take these things with a grain of salt while others shout from the rooftops.

    Polling, when done correctly by pros, is absolutely indicative of the larger population.  So there's no reason to believe that his approval is actually 65% when the poll says 45%, as an example.  Now I'm guessing the MOE is about 3-4%, so that means approval ranges from from 41-49% essentially.  Unless you're arguing the questions were unclear or leading... 
    Who did they poll? People who were watching their neighborhoods get destroyed, people who only dealt with peaceful protests, or people who have watched everything unfold from a place that is unaffected. In this specific situation, if the sample size does not include all 3 scenarios I would be leery of this being an accurate representation.

    Why would you do such a poll?  The poll was testing Trump's approval rating in his handling of the issue.  The issue affects all Americans, and it's tangentially connected to voting down the road.  That's why these polls are commissioned.  
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,831
    Poor Halifax. Settling for analyzing Trump's ass when he really wants to analyze the pee tape. 
    Poor? I’m rich with material, yo.
    And your material is uber environmentally friendly!


    hippiemom = goodness
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,956
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,124
    Kat said:
    Thugs.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

    Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.

    Brilliantati©
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,073
    edited June 2020
    I posted this in the Biden v trump thread , and I think it bears repeating here.

    If people can go out to protest they can stand in line to vote.   I’m saying this as someone that has been out at the peaceful  protests off and on in the last days.   When people start throwing shit and outside agitators start trying to get people to antagonize the cops Or set shit on fire  that’s when I bow out.  If we are feeling this strongly to risk our health and gather in large groups in support of Black Lives we can absolutely show up to the polls especially in states with early voting.  If they try to vilify and cast doubt on absentee ballots people have to be willing to take the risk to go to a polling place and cast a vote that will be less easy to challenge.  Some things are important enough to go out even with the threat of corona.  If you can go to get groceries, pickup take out food, you can go to the damn poll and help those that can’t get there.
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    mrussel1 said:
    JW269453 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JW269453 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JW269453 said:
    JW269453 said:
    JW269453 said:
    https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN239347?__twitter_impression=true 

    Looks like the old law and order fake tough guy stuff ain’t working anymore. 55% disapprove of Trump’s handling of the protests. 

    -
    So 45% approve of his "handling of the protests? The fuck???
    What we know is 55% of the 1,004 people they asked disapprove. I get polls, but I don’t put a whole lot of stock into something that is assuming the feelings of the other 329,735,410 people that call this country home. Maybe it is just me but .00000304% of anything is a little too small of a sample size to run with. This is real life for those in areas where protests have turned nasty, but only a TV show for the others. One of those opinions holds a little more weight for me when it comes to the approval of how this is being handled.
    329 million + Americans don’t vote nor are they all eligible to do so. Keep clinging.
    Clinging? You’re right. I forgot some people think the opinions of non voters and minors don’t matter. Let’s just use the voters opinions only as a gauge then. The 2016 voter turnout was 138,847,000. We are now assuming the opinions of the other 138,845,996 elites. Does this new .00000723% move your meter that much? 
     Other’s opinions don’t get to pull the lever though do they? So, extrapolating as you did is flawed. You’re from Texas, right? Fuzzy math, I get it. Keep clinging.
    Morning sunshine! A poll is the perfect example of extrapolating, it is just one you choose to except. I am sorry my residence brings out your prejudice, it must be difficult trying to harbor all of those feelings. Forgive me for not moving the decimal while trying to remember such a ridiculous percentage, .000723 it makes such a difference in this instance doesn't it?
    Do you think statistics has a liberal bias or something?  There's no mathematical question that the sample size used is predictive.  In corporations, they generally use a 95/5/5 interval, so this appears to be 95/2/3 which is very precise.  The only squirlley part for any of these is how the participants define themselves politically, and therefore how you break down the demos.  
    As per usual, I'm confused as to why my comment was seen as pro trump or anti liberal. It is simple, I do not put much stock in something that can be viewed completely different depending on your situation. Most of us have never witnessed what is going on right now to this extent so assuming the approval or disapproval of literally everyone seems like buzzfeed quiz level nonsense. Then again I'm the one who doesn't have an agenda to fulfill so I take these things with a grain of salt while others shout from the rooftops.

    Polling, when done correctly by pros, is absolutely indicative of the larger population.  So there's no reason to believe that his approval is actually 65% when the poll says 45%, as an example.  Now I'm guessing the MOE is about 3-4%, so that means approval ranges from from 41-49% essentially.  Unless you're arguing the questions were unclear or leading... 
    Who did they poll? People who were watching their neighborhoods get destroyed, people who only dealt with peaceful protests, or people who have watched everything unfold from a place that is unaffected. In this specific situation, if the sample size does not include all 3 scenarios I would be leery of this being an accurate representation.

    Why would you do such a poll?  The poll was testing Trump's approval rating in his handling of the issue.  The issue affects all Americans, and it's tangentially connected to voting down the road.  That's why these polls are commissioned.  
    Some MAGAs actually believe tRump is going to win all 50 states.  It's amazing the bubble that they live in.

    Maybe they don't actually believe it but why would you state it publicly on FB or TikTok?  They are in for a big surprise.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
This discussion has been closed.