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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    mickeyrat said:
    Rick Gates sentenced today. 45 days in jail(can be served on weekends etc over the course of his probation) 3 yrs probation and $20k in fines....

    Rick Gates, Ex-Trump Aide and Key Witness for Mueller, Is Sentenced to 45 Days in Jail https://nyti.ms/2EoQwJh

    This. Is. Spectacular.


    He must have given up so much info.
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    That letter makes him look totally innocent.

    I stand corrected.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,777

    Trump is getting the one kind of accountability he fears

    Evan VucciAP
    (Evan Vucci/AP)
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    Opinion writer
    Dec. 18, 2019 at 12:48 p.m. EST

    “We need to hold President Trump accountable.”

    How many times have you heard that in the past three years? But accountability is a tricky concept. Sometimes it’s clear: You misbehave, and you lose your job, or pay a fine, or go to jail. But not always, and Trump’s accountability will almost certainly not arrive in one of those forms.

    He may, however, be held accountable in the one way that means the most to him.

    Just a few weeks ago, it was common to hear that Trump secretly wanted to be impeached. He craves attention! He thrives on conflict! It’ll get his base worked up! Nobody is saying that anymore, because it was never true.

    If you need to know how utterly freaked out Trump is right now, you only have to read the six-page unhinged rant he delivered to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who has lost none of her ability to drive him batty. It contained eight exclamation points, the occasional use of all caps (“you have found NOTHING!”), numerous lies and distortions, extensive petulant whining, an accusation that Pelosi (a devout Catholic) is lying when she says she prays for him, and perhaps most revealing, an excoriation of her for acting like an adult and treating this process with the seriousness it deserves:

    Perhaps most insulting of all is your false display of solemnity. You apparently have so little respect for the American People that you expect them to believe that you are approaching this impeachment somberly, reservedly, and reluctantly. No intelligent person believes what you are saying.

    Though the voice is 100 percent Trump, he didn’t just dictate it in a rage. According to The Post’s reporting:

    Trump worked on the letter for more than a week, revising drafts with policy adviser Stephen Miller and legislative affairs director Eric Ueland … The president did not want White House lawyers to review it until the final stages, the person said, and some of them warned against including certain passages.

    If this is what they left in, we can only imagine what they took out.

    Though any president would be upset by impeachment, Trump’s distress reflects his particular personality and priorities. In a 2014 appearance on “Fox & Friends,” he described how awful it would be for Barack Obama to be impeached — or at least what Trump imagined it would be like.

    “He would be a mess," Trump said. "He would be thinking about nothing but. It would be a horror show for him. It would be an absolute embarrassment. It would go down on his record permanently.”

    We’ll never know how Obama would have reacted, but Bill Clinton was famously able to “compartmentalize,” setting aside his anger over impeachment when he had to do his actual job.

    Trump shows little such ability, and it’s not surprising given that no president in history has been so utterly obsessed with the minutiae of his public image. Indeed, for Trump that is the first and last measure of success; policy victories have meaning only insofar as they can be used for his own personal aggrandizement.

    Therein lies an irony in Trump’s presidency: He’s the most famous person in the world, yet he has less ability to control his public image today than he did 30 years ago when he was calling up reporters pretending to be “John Barron” to tell them about all the beautiful women he was supposedly sleeping with.

    We’ve been told a hundred times that the impeachment hearings in the House did not move public opinion. But as Eric Boehlert pointed out, this is always described as a failure for Democrats, but it’s also a failure for Trump.

    After all, he has been attacking impeachment relentlessly since the process began, with no discernible effect. His every tweet is immediately replayed all across the news media, there are millions of dollars being spent on advertising against impeachment by his allies, and he has friendly news outlets reinforcing his message day in and day out.

    Yet Trump has failed to move public opinion one iota in his direction. Nearly half the public still thinks he should be impeached and removed.

    Trump, of course, will almost certainly be acquitted in the Senate. Even so, Trump knows that impeachment (“the very ugly word,” as he wrote to Pelosi) will be attached to his name forever, not as a footnote or a weird episode that can be placed to the side of the rest of what happened in his presidency, but as the very centerpiece of it, the culmination of so much of what came before.

    That stain on his image, the idea that he could be remembered less for wealth and success than for corruption and disgrace, is what keeps Trump up at night, and keeps him madly tweeting. Nothing has ever mattered more to him than image, the view of him in the eyes of others. Wealth is meaningless if others don’t know you’re rich. Success is only worthwhile if it produces envy. You haven’t won until you’ve rubbed the victory in the face of a loser.

    Impeachment followed by acquittal might feel unsatisfying. But if it is followed by a defeat next November (and perhaps the unmasking along the way of the tax returns he has so desperately concealed), we might look back and say that even if he didn’t get quite what he deserved, he at least got the one kind of accountability he truly feared.




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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,517
    edited December 2019
    The so-called president is russian asset.

    republican politicians and voters don't care that he is a russian asset as long as he continues to be a racist xenophobic forced birther piece of shit


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  • Forever stained in the annals of history.
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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,182
    'Murica for 'muricans except of course if you're russian than go ahead come on in and do as you please....


    These two? Their spirit animal is a plate of bacon.

    They both look seconds away from serious heart attacks.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,458
    dudeman said:
    'Murica for 'muricans except of course if you're russian than go ahead come on in and do as you please....


    These two? Their spirit animal is a plate of bacon.

    They both look seconds away from serious heart attacks.
    Haha! Bacon as a spirit animal. They may look terrible, but no one's going to take away their right to vote stupid. Go team!
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,458
    Forever stained in the annals of history.
    Suicide watch tonight? No way he sleeps. Twas the night of impeachment and all through the white house, not a creature was stirring, except tiny fingers tweeting from a golden throne.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    tbergs said:
    Forever stained in the annals of history.
    Suicide watch tonight? No way he sleeps. Twas the night of impeachment and all through the white house, not a creature was stirring, except tiny fingers tweeting from a golden throne.

    Which he had to flush 10, 15 times.
  • Meanwhile, ‘Murica and it’s deplorables 


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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,880
    Meanwhile, ‘Murica and it’s deplorables 


    Unbelievable. 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,517
    Meanwhile, ‘Murica and it’s deplorables 


    Unbelievable. 
    Actually no it's unfortunately not unbelievable. 
    With the so-called leader in the White House saying the hateful ignorant shit that he says on a daily basis this kind of behavior is acceptable to supporters of the piece-of-shit-in-chief. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,918
    Meanwhile, ‘Murica and it’s deplorables 


    Unbelievable. 
    Actually no it's unfortunately not unbelievable. 
    With the so-called leader in the White House saying the hateful ignorant shit that he says on a daily basis this kind of behavior is acceptable to supporters of the piece-of-shit-in-chief. 
    the show was cancelled by the end of the day.  
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,408
    mrussel1 said:
    Meanwhile, ‘Murica and it’s deplorables 


    Unbelievable. 
    Actually no it's unfortunately not unbelievable. 
    With the so-called leader in the White House saying the hateful ignorant shit that he says on a daily basis this kind of behavior is acceptable to supporters of the piece-of-shit-in-chief. 
    the show was cancelled by the end of the day.  
    good. you don't joke about school shootings. should be fired and should never work in radio again.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,408
    tbergs said:
    Forever stained in the annals of history.
    Suicide watch tonight? No way he sleeps. Twas the night of impeachment and all through the white house, not a creature was stirring, except tiny fingers tweeting from a golden throne.
    he would never consider suicide. he believes he is too important to the world. narcissism, and all that.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,918
    mrussel1 said:
    Meanwhile, ‘Murica and it’s deplorables 


    Unbelievable. 
    Actually no it's unfortunately not unbelievable. 
    With the so-called leader in the White House saying the hateful ignorant shit that he says on a daily basis this kind of behavior is acceptable to supporters of the piece-of-shit-in-chief. 
    the show was cancelled by the end of the day.  
    good. you don't joke about school shootings. should be fired and should never work in radio again.
    Sadly, I don't think it was a joke.  I think the right wing has just become completely decoupled from a centered morality.  This is what Trump does to a person.. soul eater as Kat likes to say.  
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,408
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Meanwhile, ‘Murica and it’s deplorables 


    Unbelievable. 
    Actually no it's unfortunately not unbelievable. 
    With the so-called leader in the White House saying the hateful ignorant shit that he says on a daily basis this kind of behavior is acceptable to supporters of the piece-of-shit-in-chief. 
    the show was cancelled by the end of the day.  
    good. you don't joke about school shootings. should be fired and should never work in radio again.
    Sadly, I don't think it was a joke.  I think the right wing has just become completely decoupled from a centered morality.  This is what Trump does to a person.. soul eater as Kat likes to say.  
    i was giving them the benefit of the doubt by calling it a joke. you are probably correct.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,408
    sadly i do not feel that school shootings are that big of a story anymore. certainly not shocking anymore. they are so frequent that they are only in the news cycle for 48 hours and then everyone in the media moves on to the kardashians or some BS.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,637
    sadly i do not feel that school shootings are that big of a story anymore. certainly not shocking anymore. they are so frequent that they are only in the news cycle for 48 hours and then everyone in the media moves on to the kardashians or some BS.
    We have definitely grown somewhat desensitized to them.  Still, I've never heard anyone hope for them...
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  • brianlux
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    OnWis97 said:
    sadly i do not feel that school shootings are that big of a story anymore. certainly not shocking anymore. they are so frequent that they are only in the news cycle for 48 hours and then everyone in the media moves on to the kardashians or some BS.
    We have definitely grown somewhat desensitized to them.  Still, I've never heard anyone hope for them...

    The right wing continues to be more transparent than ever.  Too bad there are so many people in this country who fall for their hatred, lies, corruption, and every other sort of b.s. imaginable. 
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