Donald Trump

Halifax2TheMax

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

so we fight incitement of violence with advocating for violence now?

great strategy! 

last I checked, the red hats at that rally weren't cracking any skulls or firing off any water hoses. the actions of the protesters at that rally are indefensible. 

Who’s advocating for violence? I just stated that the deplorables wearing MAGA hats illicit certain responses from certain people and I understand that, particularly when taking the high road has gotten more of Team Trump Treason’s shit rammed down our throats. People ain’t taking it no more and Team Trump Treason and his deplorable supporters and enablers haven’t shown a willingness, never mind acceptance, of compromise or inclusion. If you don’t see it as “us” versus “them and the other,” well, that’s on you.

you are. we all read between the lines, and you think because you are on a liberal forum that it will just get a pass. you think you won't get called on it because your next line will be an accusation of me being ok with sexual assault (which you did already), or the slaughter of thousands of kurds, or the murder of a journalist, or i am a misogynist (you did that one already too) or other things that have nothing to do with the current topic.

"what did peaceful marches get the civil right movement?". that's encouraging or, at the very least, being apologetic towards, violence. a following comment about people in maga hats "should expect a reaction", which you just doubled down on above, is much of the same. 

just own it already. don't try to hide behind semantics and play innocent/stupid. you are ok with people stealing others' property and burning it, possibly assaulting that person in the process. come on.how often does stealing someone's hat in a group of politically charged groups not end in assault of some kind?. all because the ends justify the means to you, as you've stated ad nauseum, "both sides are not the same", insinuating that the gloves are off and because of charlotteseville anything democrats do is a-ok in your book and being nice hasn't done shit. 

get it through your head. IT'S NOT OK JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE ADVERSARY IS TRUMP. IT NEVER WILL BE. 

Would it be okay if it were hitler? And no I’m not advocating violence, just pointing out that sometimes violence is necessary to enact the change you want to see, particularly when given lip service and constantly told to be patient, wait your turn, and take the high road.

You have posted some sexist views and pretty bs opinions. Don’t pretend you haven’t. Own it.

And both sides are not the same, not by a long shot. Yea, I play innocent and stupid, sure.

never once posted anything sexist. that's absolute bullshit and you know it. 

Hmmmmm, no.

yeah, i remember, i once critizied AOC and that made me sexist. i forgot, anyone with a vagina is above criticism in your book. calling me a sexist just shows how utterly clueless and blinded you are by your trump rage. 

Whatever helps you sleep at night. No, Sarah hucksterbee and Kelly Ann CONway deserve tons of criticism and guess what, they have China. If I had it in me, I’d dig up your posts but one was deleted by admin and well, what’s the point? I know what I know. Have a great weekend! 

OnWis97

ikiT said:

Trump IS Hitler. 

Pffft.  He wishes.

cincybearcat

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

so we fight incitement of violence with advocating for violence now?

great strategy! 

last I checked, the red hats at that rally weren't cracking any skulls or firing off any water hoses. the actions of the protesters at that rally are indefensible. 

Who’s advocating for violence? I just stated that the deplorables wearing MAGA hats illicit certain responses from certain people and I understand that, particularly when taking the high road has gotten more of Team Trump Treason’s shit rammed down our throats. People ain’t taking it no more and Team Trump Treason and his deplorable supporters and enablers haven’t shown a willingness, never mind acceptance, of compromise or inclusion. If you don’t see it as “us” versus “them and the other,” well, that’s on you.

you are. we all read between the lines, and you think because you are on a liberal forum that it will just get a pass. you think you won't get called on it because your next line will be an accusation of me being ok with sexual assault (which you did already), or the slaughter of thousands of kurds, or the murder of a journalist, or i am a misogynist (you did that one already too) or other things that have nothing to do with the current topic.

"what did peaceful marches get the civil right movement?". that's encouraging or, at the very least, being apologetic towards, violence. a following comment about people in maga hats "should expect a reaction", which you just doubled down on above, is much of the same. 

just own it already. don't try to hide behind semantics and play innocent/stupid. you are ok with people stealing others' property and burning it, possibly assaulting that person in the process. come on.how often does stealing someone's hat in a group of politically charged groups not end in assault of some kind?. all because the ends justify the means to you, as you've stated ad nauseum, "both sides are not the same", insinuating that the gloves are off and because of charlotteseville anything democrats do is a-ok in your book and being nice hasn't done shit. 

get it through your head. IT'S NOT OK JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE ADVERSARY IS TRUMP. IT NEVER WILL BE. 

Would it be okay if it were hitler? And no I’m not advocating violence, just pointing out that sometimes violence is necessary to enact the change you want to see, particularly when given lip service and constantly told to be patient, wait your turn, and take the high road.

You have posted some sexist views and pretty bs opinions. Don’t pretend you haven’t. Own it.

And both sides are not the same, not by a long shot. Yea, I play innocent and stupid, sure.

never once posted anything sexist. that's absolute bullshit and you know it. 

It’s bullshit. You are right. Attack the messenger when you don’t like the message and you know the messenger is right. 

cincybearcat

Jesus Christ when did it become ok to label other poster with labels like sexist when you disagree with them? 

If you disagree you get a label. You get the “false equivalency” junk, you get all kinds of the words of the day. 

It’s clear some are ok with minor crimes as long as it’s their team. I get it, it’s frustrating. Id be tempted. But it’s not right. Hugh is correct and from what I’ve seen on this forums is far from a sexist. So just stop the nonsense labels.

mrussel1

dignin said:

mrussel1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

If I didn't know better, I would think certain people are much more concerned with right wing talking points than they are with a president whose behavior is appearing more and more treasonous with every passing day.

But hey, to each his own.

It's a good thing you know better then.  But the reality is that I live in a world that is not a bubble.  I see how moderates, indys and conservatives think and take in information.  I work in financial services which is fiscally conservative by nature, but socially moderate.  I read National Review, Reason, Amcon, and others.  I care about winning elections.  If you think destroying downtown San Jose helped the cause in 16, you're wrong.  If you think destroying Minneapolis advances the cause, you're wrong.  And if you're not advancing it, your're hurting it. 

There's a huge difference in standing up for a principle and resorting to wanton destruction.  Stand up for Kap.  Stand up to China and the NBA.  Stand up for what's right vs wrong.  But destroying property isn't right and if you think a riot is a positive thing, you've lost your damned mind. 

Destroying downtown San Jose and destroying Minneapolis?

I'll tell you what also doesn't help win elections, hyperbolie like that.

If a Trumper points out burning Maga hats it's pretty easy to counter with Walmart mass shootings.

It's not trump pointing it out,  it's the destruction on the evening news. 

Halifax2TheMax

cincybearcat said:

Jesus Christ when did it become ok to label other poster with labels like sex ist when you disagree with them? 

If you disagree you get a label. You get the “false equivalency” junk, you get all kinds of the words of the day. 

It’s clear some are ok with minor crimes as long as it’s their team. I get it, it’s frustrating. Id be tempted. But it’s not right. Hugh is correct and from what I’ve seen on this forums is far from a sexist. So just stop the nonsense labels.

When is it okay to label posters as advocating for violence when the person who posted did nothing of the sort and then accuse them of hiding behind something. Yea it’s fucking old when certain posters complain about the same shit they themselves do and whine about it. There’s a difference between disagreeing and coming across as sexist. That’s lost on some however.

Shall I repost all the “labels” I’ve been labeled? 

Halifax2TheMax

Dropping like flies. Some refuse to be flushed down with the shit.

https://apple.news/AtKCL3jukS3qk486twoe4LA

josevolution

ikiT said:

5 court losses, a talking fired ambassador, and Rudy.

what a day for Trumpito. 

lmao plenty more of these days to come! 

dignin

mrussel1 said:

dignin said:

mrussel1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

If I didn't know better, I would think certain people are much more concerned with right wing talking points than they are with a president whose behavior is appearing more and more treasonous with every passing day.

But hey, to each his own.

It's a good thing you know better then.  But the reality is that I live in a world that is not a bubble.  I see how moderates, indys and conservatives think and take in information.  I work in financial services which is fiscally conservative by nature, but socially moderate.  I read National Review, Reason, Amcon, and others.  I care about winning elections.  If you think destroying downtown San Jose helped the cause in 16, you're wrong.  If you think destroying Minneapolis advances the cause, you're wrong.  And if you're not advancing it, your're hurting it. 

There's a huge difference in standing up for a principle and resorting to wanton destruction.  Stand up for Kap.  Stand up to China and the NBA.  Stand up for what's right vs wrong.  But destroying property isn't right and if you think a riot is a positive thing, you've lost your damned mind. 

Destroying downtown San Jose and destroying Minneapolis?

I'll tell you what also doesn't help win elections, hyperbolie like that.

If a Trumper points out burning Maga hats it's pretty easy to counter with Walmart mass shootings.

It's not trump pointing it out,  it's the destruction on the evening news. 

I'm sure FOX has wall to wall coverage.

FOX gonna be FOX. Especially now that Shep is gone.

Smellyman

Finally, people are sick of Trump shitting on the Nation.

josevolution

Yovanovitch might be the woman who brings this clown show down..

mrussel1

dignin said:

mrussel1 said:

dignin said:

mrussel1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

If I didn't know better, I would think certain people are much more concerned with right wing talking points than they are with a president whose behavior is appearing more and more treasonous with every passing day.

But hey, to each his own.

It's a good thing you know better then.  But the reality is that I live in a world that is not a bubble.  I see how moderates, indys and conservatives think and take in information.  I work in financial services which is fiscally conservative by nature, but socially moderate.  I read National Review, Reason, Amcon, and others.  I care about winning elections.  If you think destroying downtown San Jose helped the cause in 16, you're wrong.  If you think destroying Minneapolis advances the cause, you're wrong.  And if you're not advancing it, your're hurting it. 

There's a huge difference in standing up for a principle and resorting to wanton destruction.  Stand up for Kap.  Stand up to China and the NBA.  Stand up for what's right vs wrong.  But destroying property isn't right and if you think a riot is a positive thing, you've lost your damned mind. 

Destroying downtown San Jose and destroying Minneapolis?

I'll tell you what also doesn't help win elections, hyperbolie like that.

If a Trumper points out burning Maga hats it's pretty easy to counter with Walmart mass shootings.

It's not trump pointing it out,  it's the destruction on the evening news. 

I'm sure FOX has wall to wall coverage.

FOX gonna be FOX. Especially now that Shep is gone.

Any defense of rioting is rooted in whataboutism.  

And fox top rated show has 3.x million viewers. Network news has about 8x that many.  If there's looting and rioting,  it's going to be on the nightly news where the unconverted get information. 

mcgruff10

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

so we fight incitement of violence with advocating for violence now?

great strategy! 

last I checked, the red hats at that rally weren't cracking any skulls or firing off any water hoses. the actions of the protesters at that rally are indefensible. 

Who’s advocating for violence? I just stated that the deplorables wearing MAGA hats illicit certain responses from certain people and I understand that, particularly when taking the high road has gotten more of Team Trump Treason’s shit rammed down our throats. People ain’t taking it no more and Team Trump Treason and his deplorable supporters and enablers haven’t shown a willingness, never mind acceptance, of compromise or inclusion. If you don’t see it as “us” versus “them and the other,” well, that’s on you.

you are. we all read between the lines, and you think because you are on a liberal forum that it will just get a pass. you think you won't get called on it because your next line will be an accusation of me being ok with sexual assault (which you did already), or the slaughter of thousands of kurds, or the murder of a journalist, or i am a misogynist (you did that one already too) or other things that have nothing to do with the current topic.

"what did peaceful marches get the civil right movement?". that's encouraging or, at the very least, being apologetic towards, violence. a following comment about people in maga hats "should expect a reaction", which you just doubled down on above, is much of the same. 

just own it already. don't try to hide behind semantics and play innocent/stupid. you are ok with people stealing others' property and burning it, possibly assaulting that person in the process. come on.how often does stealing someone's hat in a group of politically charged groups not end in assault of some kind?. all because the ends justify the means to you, as you've stated ad nauseum, "both sides are not the same", insinuating that the gloves are off and because of charlotteseville anything democrats do is a-ok in your book and being nice hasn't done shit. 

get it through your head. IT'S NOT OK JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE ADVERSARY IS TRUMP. IT NEVER WILL BE. 

Would it be okay if it were hitler? And no I’m not advocating violence, just pointing out that sometimes violence is necessary to enact the change you want to see, particularly when given lip service and constantly told to be patient, wait your turn, and take the high road.

You have posted some sexist views and pretty bs opinions. Don’t pretend you haven’t. Own it.

And both sides are not the same, not by a long shot. Yea, I play innocent and stupid, sure.

never once posted anything sexist. that's absolute bullshit and you know it. 

Agreed. Halifax check your self without thinking about trump. 

cincybearcat

Halifax2TheMax said:

cincybearcat said:

Jesus Christ when did it become ok to label other poster with labels like sex ist when you disagree with them? 

If you disagree you get a label. You get the “false equivalency” junk, you get all kinds of the words of the day. 

It’s clear some are ok with minor crimes as long as it’s their team. I get it, it’s frustrating. Id be tempted. But it’s not right. Hugh is correct and from what I’ve seen on this forums is far from a sexist. So just stop the nonsense labels.

When is it okay to label posters as advocating for violence when the person who posted did nothing of the sort and then accuse them of hiding behind something. Yea it’s fucking old when certain posters complain about the same shit they themselves do and whine about it. There’s a difference between disagreeing and coming across as sexist. That’s lost on some however.

Shall I repost all the “labels” I’ve been labeled? 

Oh I know you kept track. Cheetos are your friend. The rest of us haven’t with those labels. But calling someone sexist, racist, etc on here with really no data whatsoever is really disappointing. It’s meant to try and shut them down on any topic. It’s just pretty dumb.

The Juggler

That flushing sound you hear is this administration starting to go down the toilet...

cincybearcat

The Juggler said:

That flushing sound you hear is this administration starting to go down the toilet...

One can hope. 

Halifax2TheMax

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

cincybearcat said:

Jesus Christ when did it become ok to label other poster with labels like sex ist when you disagree with them? 

If you disagree you get a label. You get the “false equivalency” junk, you get all kinds of the words of the day. 

It’s clear some are ok with minor crimes as long as it’s their team. I get it, it’s frustrating. Id be tempted. But it’s not right. Hugh is correct and from what I’ve seen on this forums is far from a sexist. So just stop the nonsense labels.

When is it okay to label posters as advocating for violence when the person who posted did nothing of the sort and then accuse them of hiding behind something. Yea it’s fucking old when certain posters complain about the same shit they themselves do and whine about it. There’s a difference between disagreeing and coming across as sexist. That’s lost on some however.

Shall I repost all the “labels” I’ve been labeled? 

Oh I know you kept track. Cheetos are your friend. The rest of us haven’t with those labels. But calling someone sexist, racist, etc on here with really no data whatsoever is really disappointing. It’s meant to try and shut them down on any topic. It’s just pretty dumb.

Facts be facts and acts be acts. The act is getting old of the faux outrage at something I never said, calling for labels and then being bullies. Own your shit. Funny how I didn’t bring up labels tonight, HFC resurrected them from what? A year or more ago? Guilty conscience? God the hypocrisy and pomposity around here is thick.

Ya know, there’s an ignore feature.

Halifax2TheMax

ikiT said:

The Left.

Yea right? Shouldn’t it be “those with common sense and decency?” It’s always up to the “left” like they’re the sole possessors of virtue and decency. Sorry, but the fucking “right” needs to finally do the right thing. It’s exhausting.

mrussel1

Halifax2TheMax said:

ikiT said:

The Left.

Yea right? Shouldn’t it be “those with common sense and decency?” It’s always up to the “left” like they’re the sole possessors of virtue and decency. Sorry, but the fucking “right” needs to finally do the right thing. It’s exhausting.

Whataboutism... failed argument.  

Halifax2TheMax

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

ikiT said:

The Left.

Yea right? Shouldn’t it be “those with common sense and decency?” It’s always up to the “left” like they’re the sole possessors of virtue and decency. Sorry, but the fucking “right” needs to finally do the right thing. It’s exhausting.

Whataboutism... failed argument.  

Good luck with that high road and meekness as your wish for the other side to change never comes true. “Whataboutism” must be the word of the day. Both sides are the same, you win. Maybe you don’t want the other side to change? Maybe you’re okay with the current shit show? Maybe it’s just a post on a bands forum website?