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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 27,264

     
    Trump Organization convicted in executive tax dodge scheme
    By MICHAEL R. SISAK
    32 mins ago

    NEW YORK (AP) — Donald Trump’s company was convicted of tax fraud on Tuesday in a case brought by the Manhattan District Attorney, a significant repudiation of financial practices at the former president’s business.

    A jury found two corporate entities at the Trump Organization guilty on all 17 counts, including conspiracy charges and falsifying business records.

    The verdict came on the second day of deliberations following a trial in which the Trump Organization was accused of being complicit in a scheme by top executives to avoid paying personal income taxes on job perks such as rent-free apartments and luxury cars.

    The conviction is a validation for New York prosecutors, who have spent three years investigating the former president and his businesses, though the penalties aren’t expected to be severe enough to jeopardize the future of Trump’s company.

    As punishment, the Trump Organization could be fined up to $1.6 million — a relatively small amount for a company of its size, though the conviction might make some of its future deals more complicated.

    Trump, who recently announced he was running for president again, has said the case against his company was part of a politically motivated “witch hunt” waged against him by vindictive Democrats.

    Trump himself was not on trial but prosecutors alleged he “knew exactly what was going on” with the scheme, though he and the company’s lawyers have denied that.

    The case against the company was built largely around testimony from the Trump Organization’s former finance chief, Allen Weisselberg, who previously pleaded guilty to charges that he manipulated the company’s books and his own compensation package to illegally reduce his taxes.

    Weisselberg testified in exchange for a promised five-month jail sentence.

    To convict the Trump Organization, prosecutors had to convince jurors that Weisselberg or his subordinate, Senior Vice President and Controller Jeffrey McConney, were “high managerial” agents acting on the company’s behalf and that the company also benefited from his scheme.

    Trump Organization lawyers repeated the mantra “Weisselberg did it for Weisselberg” throughout the monthlong trial. They contended the executive had gone rogue and betrayed the company’s trust. No one in the Trump family or the company was to blame, they argued.

    Though he testified as a prosecution witness, Weisselberg also attempted to take responsibility on the witness stand, saying nobody in the Trump family knew what he was doing.

    “It was my own personal greed that led to this,” an emotional Weisselberg testified.

    Weisselberg, who pleaded guilty to dodging taxes on $1.7 million in fringe benefits, testified that he and McConney conspired to hide that extra compensation from his income by deducting their cost from his pre-tax salary and issuing falsified W-2 forms.

    During his closing argument, prosecutor Joshua Steinglass attempted to refute the claim that Trump knew nothing about the scheme. He showed jurors a lease Trump signed for Weisselberg’s company-paid apartment and a memo Trump initialed authorizing a pay cut for another executive who got perks.

    “Mr. Trump is explicitly sanctioning tax fraud,” Steinglass argued.

    The verdict doesn’t end Trump’s battle with Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, a Democrat who took office in January.

    Bragg has said that a related investigation of Trump that began under his predecessor, District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr., is “active and ongoing.”

    In that wide-ranging probe, investigators have examined whether Trump misled banks and others about the value of his real estate holdings, golf courses and other assets — allegations at the heart of New York Attorney General Letitia James’ pending lawsuit against the former president and his company.

    The district attorney’s office has also investigated whether any state laws were broken when Trump’s allies made payments to two women who claimed to have had sexual affairs with the Republican years ago.

    Near the end of his tenure last year, Vance directed deputies to present evidence to a grand jury for a possible indictment of Trump. After taking office, though, Bragg let that grand jury disband so he could give the case a fresh look.

    On Monday, he confirmed that a new lead prosecutor had been brought on to handle that investigation, signaling again that it was still active.


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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 27,264
    guess I'll put this here...

    Giuliani ‘weaponized’ law license in Trump election suit, D.C. Bar argues  https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/12/06/rudy-giuliani-dc-bar-license-hearing/ 

     Giuliani ‘weaponized’ law license in Trump election suit, D.C. Bar argues
    By Keith L. Alexander
    December 06, 2022 at 6:00 ET
    Former New York City Republican mayor Rudy Giuliani defended his role challenging the 2020 presidential election as President Donald Trump’s personal attorney Monday, after the D.C. Bar accused Giuliani of misusing his law license and called for it to be revoked.
    During his testimony before the D.C. Board on Professional Responsibility of the D.C. Bar, Giuliani at times minimized his role in a lawsuit that falsely alleged the November 2020 general presidential election was wrought with fraud in the key state of Pennsylvania after President Biden was declared winner.
    Hamilton “Phil” Fox III, the lead prosecuting attorney for D.C. Bar’s Office of Disciplinary Counsel, called Giuliani’s fraud allegations in Pennsylvania “unfounded” and said they misrepresented or took advantage of two unprecedented events affecting the state: Pennsylvania had just started using mail-in ballots for the election, and the coronavirus pandemic forced independent observers to be distanced from poll workers tasked with opening mail-in ballots and reviewing signatures.
    Fox argued that although several courts in Pennsylvania found “kinks” in the new voting system in Pennsylvania, there was no evidence of fraud.
    [Rudy Giuliani suspended from practicing law in D.C. court]
    Despite such court assertions, Giuliani “weaponized his law license by filing a frivolous lawsuit” and as a result, should have his license suspended or revoked, Fox said.
    “There was no case in law nor fact for which Mr. Giuliani set forth on grounds of fraud,” Fox said.
    Giuliani’s lawsuit on behalf of Trump seeking to throw out votes cast in the state was rejected by a judge. A federal appeals court refused to let the campaign file a revised complaint.

    continues....

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 20,406
    lol as predicted..... this fuckin guy, lol


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  • lol as predicted..... this fuckin guy, lol


    POOTWH wrote the first and last sentences only.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 27,264
    fuckstick loses again....
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  • How long before Manchurian Manchin switches parties?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 27,264
    How long before Manchurian Manchin switches parties?
    think sinema is the one to watch

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  • ikiTikiT USAPosts: 10,648
    "This is a continuation of the greatest WITCH HUNT of all time!"

    Translation: "Whatever you're accusing me of, I am guilty.  I'm down at Mar-a-lago, and you should come pick me up, before I do it again."

    What seems to be the fucking hold up?
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  • Oh, Jared? Jared Dear Boy? Be a love and move that box. Yes, the one marked 666 & Qatar. Yes, put it behind the lawn furniture and coolers and not in front. Oh, Dear Jared Boy, so dutiful. Not like that curse Eric who fucks up everything he touches!

    Democrats on a pair of congressional committees have launched an aggressive new effort to obtain information about whether Jared Kushner’s actions on U.S. policy in the Persian Gulf region as a senior White House adviser were influenced by the bailout of a property owned by his family business.

    Citing previously undisclosed emails and other documents related to former president Donald Trump’s son-in-law, the committees on Monday night sent letters to the State and Defense departments requesting material that they say could shed new light on whether “Kushner’s financial conflict of interest may have led him to improperly influence U.S. tax, trade and national security policies for his own financial gain.”

    The letters, obtained by The Washington Post, focus on efforts by Kushner and his father, Charles Kushner, to bail out a troubled 41-story Fifth Avenue office building in New York City. The Kushner company in 2018 made a deal with a Canadian company, Brookfield Asset Management, which invested $1.2 billion for a 99-year lease. As a result, the Kushner family company avoided defaulting on a loan that was due the following year.

    Democrats have long raised questions about the deal because the Qatar Investment Authority, a sovereign wealth fund, had a stake in one of Brookfield’s investment arms.

    Brookfield said when it was negotiating its deal in 2018 that “no Qatar-linked entity has any involvement in or even knowledge of this potential transaction.” But Democrats have continued probing whether any Qatari money went into the project.

    Now, Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Rep. Carolyn B. Maloney (D-N.Y.), in their roles as chairs of the Senate Finance Committee and House Oversight Committee, havebroadened that inquiry, co-authoring letters to the State and Defense departments. They wrote that they are seeking an array of documents addressing their concerns that Jared Kushner’s role in Middle East policy could have played a role in the bailout.

    Neither Jared Kushner, who now runs a private-equity company, nor Charles Kushner, who serves as chairman of the Kushner real estate company, responded to requests for comment.

    The saga of the Fifth Avenue property has long been one of the darkest chapters in Jared Kushner’s career.

    After his father went to prison for federal tax evasion and other charges after being convicted in 2005, Kushner — who is married to Trump’s daughter Ivanka Trump — remade the family real estate business. He sold many of the company’s New Jersey apartments and paid $1.8 billion for the Fifth Avenue property, the most ever paid in the United States for an office building at that time. While Kushner called it a “great acquisition,” the purchase came just before the 2007 real estate crash, undercutting the value of the property and putting the family business at risk.

    As Kushner recounted in “Breaking History,” his recent memoir: “There was no way I was going to let the investment fail. I had very little leverage, so I was willing to talk to anybody.” He called it the biggest challenge of his career.

    By 2016, Kushner was simultaneously helping to run Donald Trump’s presidential campaign and seeking an investor to take over the property. A previously undisclosed email obtained by the committees says that Kushner talked with top Brookfield officials about the Fifth Avenue property on April 15, 2016. The property at the time was known as 666 Fifth Ave. and is now known as 660 Fifth Ave.

    Five days later, in an email with the subject line “re 666,” Brookfield’s then-chairman, Ric Clark, wrote: “Jared — thanks for coming down last Friday. We are excited about your project.” Clark ended the email writing, “Congratulations on yesterday’s election,” apparently a reference to Trump’s victory in the New York Republican primary, which helped him secure the nomination. Clark did not respond to a request for comment.

    In December 2016, as Kushner worked on Trump’s transition team, he met with representatives of a Chinese insurance firm regarding potentially investing in the property, the New York Times reported. Kushner also met with a Russian banker but told Congress that family business was not discussed, although the bank hassaid they talked about “promising business lines and sectors.”

    Then, as Kushner began his White House role, he divested himself of his interest in the Fifth Avenue property and cut ties with the family company, where his father worked. At the same time, he retained real estate assets valued between $132 million and $407 million, The Post has reported.

    As Kushner worked on Middle East policy, his father in April 2017 held a meeting with Qatar’s finance minister at which the Fifth Avenue property was discussed. Charles Kushner later told The Post that even if the Qataris had offered to wire funds on the spot, he would have turned them down to avoid questions about a conflict of interest with his son.

    Continues, if you can believe it. But hey, Hunter’s laptop, right? So much winning. But ends with this:

    In addition, the committees said, they are requesting any correspondence that refers to “Kushner seeking to influence, interfere with, or supersede the normal operations and responsibilities” of the State and Defense departments.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/12/07/kushner-democrats-congressional-probe-bailout/




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  • Might be time to revoke some certain passports and keep an eye on a few people. Wouldn’t want there to be any “disappearances,” now would we?
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  • Link to the Finance Committee’s letter to the Department of State re: Jared Dear Boy and 666 5th Avenue and Qatar. Who was Secretary of State at the time? Anyone?

    https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/12.6.22%20Letter%20from%20Chairman%20Wyden%20and%20Chairwoman%20Maloney%20to%20Secretary%20Blinken.pdf

    Link to the letter to the Department of Defence:

    https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/12.6.22%20Letter%20from%20Chairman%20Wyden%20and%20Chairwoman%20Maloney%20to%20Secretary%20Austin.pdf

    And the best part? This investigation will continue for at least two more years and could eventually result in a special counsel being appointed for beyond 2024. Three D chess indeed.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 15,184
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 15,184
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley #1, Wrigley #2, Boston #1, Boston #2
    2020: Oakland1, Oakland2:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland1, Oakland2, Nashville, Louisville 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,579
    edited December 2022
    Storage unit? What storage unit? The only thing at that particular storage unit is covefe. WITCHHUNT!

    Lawyers for former president Donald Trump found at least two items marked classified after an outside team hired by Trump searched a storage unit in West Palm Beach, Fla., used by the former president, according to people familiar with the matter.

    Those items were immediately turned over to the FBI, according to those people, who like others spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.

    The search was one of at least three searches conducted by an outside team of his properties for classified materials in recent weeks, after they were pressed by a federal judge to attest they had fully complied with a May grand jury subpoena to turn over all materials bearing classified markings, according to people familiar with the matter.

    Emails released by the General Services Administration, which assists former presidents during their transition to private life, show that the government agency helped secure the storage unit at a private facility in West Palm Beach on July 21, 2021. The unit was needed to store items that had been held at an office in Northern Virginia used by Trump staffers in the months just after he left office.

    Trump team searches two of his properties amid court battle with DOJ - The Washington Post

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,579
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    When I grow up and get elected POTUS, I'm bringing my funkos to the White House. All "sorts of things?" Like classified documents, perhaps? 3,000 pounds? Can't be shit as thats still in POOTWH's diaper.

    The emails show that GSA and Trump staffers worked together to arrange to ship several pallets of boxes and other items weighing more than 3,000 pounds from Northern Virginia to the Florida storage unit in September 2021.

    A person familiar with the matter said the storage unit had a mix of boxes, gifts, suits and clothes, among other things. “It was suits and swords and wrestling belts and all sorts of things,” this person said.


    And sure, sure:

    The ultimate significance of the classified material in the storage unit is not immediately clear, but its presence there indicates Mar-a-Lago was not the only place where Trump kept classified material. It also provides further evidence that Trump and his team did not fully comply with a May grand jury subpoena that sought all documents marked classified still in possession of the post-presidential office.

    Chief U.S. District Judge Beryl A. Howell told Trump’s legal team to continue to search for documents after the Justice Department expressed concerns that the team had not fully complied with a subpoena earlier this year. Howell, according to people familiar with the matter, did not give specific orders on how a search should be done.

    Howell’s instructions followed a breakdown in the government’s trust in Trump’s attorneys that led prosecutors in August to seek a court-authorized FBI search of Mar-a-Lago. Since that time, prosecutors have continued to question whether Trump has returned all materials with classification markings, although what steps the government might take to retrieve such materials or procedures it might require Trump’s advisers and lawyers to implement remain unclear.

    Trump’s team has sought to avoid another federal high-profile search of his properties, the people familiar with the matter said.

    So much for that tightly run and controlled campaign ship, eh Jason?

    Jay Bratt, the chief of the counterintelligence and export control section at the Justice Department, communicated to Trump’s lawyers after the FBI search that the department was concerned Trump still may not have returned all the classified documents in his possession. The Washington Post has previously reported that officials at the National Archives also believe that there may still be more records missing. Previous attempts by Trump’s attorneys to identify and return documents proved unsatisfactory to investigators.

    And you don't say:

    At times in the past, Trump has misled his own lawyers as to what was in the boxes that were taken from Mar-a-Lago, The Post has reported.

    To parrot Juggler, what do you think POOTWH was doing with all of those classified documents down at Mar-I-Lieo?

    Trump team searches two of his properties amid court battle with DOJ - The Washington Post

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    fucking facebook...
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley #1, Wrigley #2, Boston #1, Boston #2
    2020: Oakland1, Oakland2:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland1, Oakland2, Nashville, Louisville 
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    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley #1, Wrigley #2, Boston #1, Boston #2
    2020: Oakland1, Oakland2:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
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  • fucking facebook...
    Chain letters are still a thing? Do you still pass a buck back to the person who sent it?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 26,502


    fucking facebook...
    Chain letters are still a thing? Do you still pass a buck back to the person who sent it?
    I don't know if this guy is right about everything, but the Bible absolutely said that the the US had to move the embassy back to Jerusalem.  So that is an important piece to Revelations.  A less known sign of the Rapture is that the Browns get a sinful quarterback, who redeems himself to the Lord and wins 9 straight games to win the SB.  God was very clear about this.  If it really happens, we're all fucked. 
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 14,559
    mrussel1 said:


    fucking facebook...
    Chain letters are still a thing? Do you still pass a buck back to the person who sent it?
    I don't know if this guy is right about everything, but the Bible absolutely said that the the US had to move the embassy back to Jerusalem.  So that is an important piece to Revelations.  A less known sign of the Rapture is that the Browns get a sinful quarterback, who redeems himself to the Lord and wins 9 straight games to win the SB.  God was very clear about this.  If it really happens, we're all fucked. 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 20,406
    lol how long before trump says "walker?? i don't know the guy. he did some work for me at one point but i never met him."
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 20,406
    because of course he did not return everything he said he gave back.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 27,264
    rick wilson podcast

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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 14,559
    More like the grift that keeps on grifting, amirite?
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  • Because that’s a clear path back to the Oval. Ummmmm, Jason? About that disciplined campaign?

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/07/politics/trump-qanon-conspiracy-theorist-mar-a-lago/index.html
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 44,015
    edited December 2022
    lock
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,154
    mrussel1 said:


    fucking facebook...
    Chain letters are still a thing? Do you still pass a buck back to the person who sent it?
    I don't know if this guy is right about everything, but the Bible absolutely said that the the US had to move the embassy back to Jerusalem.  So that is an important piece to Revelations.  A less known sign of the Rapture is that the Browns get a sinful quarterback, who redeems himself to the Lord and wins 9 straight games to win the SB.  God was very clear about this.  If it really happens, we're all fucked. 

    mrussel1 said:


    fucking facebook...
    Chain letters are still a thing? Do you still pass a buck back to the person who sent it?
    I don't know if this guy is right about everything, but the Bible absolutely said that the the US had to move the embassy back to Jerusalem.  So that is an important piece to Revelations.  A less known sign of the Rapture is that the Browns get a sinful quarterback, who redeems himself to the Lord and wins 9 straight games to win the SB.  God was very clear about this.  If it really happens, we're all fucked. 
    Let's not forget the key part of the prophecy being that a McDonald's shall be located at the NE corner adjacent to the Embassy.  Without those fries Revelations is just so many words on paper.
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