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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,929
    PJ_Soul said:
    This is fucking insane.

    Trump abruptly cancels infrastructure meeting with Democrats after Pelosi says he is ‘engaged in a coverup’


    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said May 22 that House Democrats believe “no one is above the law, including the president of the United States.” (Reuters)

    May 22 at 12:04 PM

    President Trump abruptly canceled a meeting with Democratic leaders on Wednesday, saying he was unable to work with them on legislation following comments by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) that he was “engaged in a coverup.”

    Trump made an unscheduled appearance in the Rose Garden shortly afterward and in a meandering 10-minute address said he had left the meeting with Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) at which they were supposed to talk about working together on a $2 billion infrastructure plan.

    “Instead of walking in happily to a meeting, I walk in to look at people who said I was doing a coverup,” Trump said, adding that he can’t work on infrastructure “under these circumstances.”

    Pelosi made her comments earlier Wednesday morning during a closed-door meeting with House Democrats called to discuss ongoing investigations of Trump and his administration. Despite her accusation of a coverup, Pelosi and all but one of her six committee chairmen with investigatory powers tamped down talk of impeachment proceedings during the meeting.

    A growing number of rank-and-file Democrats have called for the launch of an impeachment inquiry against Trump as frustrations build over the administration’s stonewalling of congressional probes.

    But during Wednesday’s meeting, most of the chairmen who addressed the caucus focused on recent successes in court battles to force the administration to comply with subpoenas and counseled a more measured course advocated by Pelosi, according to multiple people in the room.

    House Democrats call for impeachment proceedings against Trump

    After the White House blocked numerous congressional subpoena requests, lawmakers have begun calling for impeachment proceedings against President Trump. (Blair Guild, JM Rieger/The Washington Post)

    The meeting “reflected where most of this caucus is at,” said Rep. Dean Phillips (D-Minn.). “Have faith on the courts and have faith in process, and impeachment only if absolutely necessary.”

    Addressing reporters afterward, Pelosi said Democrats had “a very productive meeting” and called for staying the course on investigations.

    “We do believe that it’s important to follow the facts,” she said. “We believe that no one is above the law, including the president of the United States. And we believe the president of the United States is engaged in a coverup.”

    In remarks to fellow Democrats during the meeting, Pelosi, according to multiple members, showed no sign of moving away from her approach.


    Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi briefly speaks to the news media after leaving a House Democratic Caucus meeting at the Capitol, on Wednesday (Erik S Lesser/EPA-EFE/Shutterstock)

    “Stay the course,” said Rep. Sean Patrick Maloney (D-N.Y.), summarizing Pelosi’s remarks.

    After the meeting, Rep. Lois Frankel (D-Fla.) argued that the committees should continue investigating and that Democrats should focus more on legislation, saying that “the impeachment question is taking up all the oxygen in the room.”

    “Look, in my mind, even if we impeach, the Senate isn’t going to do anything about it … so what is our goal?” she asked. “If we don’t want Trump to be the president … we’ve got to get him in 2020.”

    During the meeting, House Financial Services Chairwoman Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) was the only one of the chairmen to call for moving forward with impeachment proceedings, a stance consistent with her past advocacy for seeking to remove Trump.

    “I never change my mind,” she told reporters afterward.

    While other chairmen said they were outraged by Trump’s conduct, several offered reasons to follow Pelosi’s lead. House Oversight and Reform Committee Chairman Elijah E. Cummings (D-Md.), for instance, warned that some freshmen lawmakers in swing districts could lose races if Democrats are too aggressive in pursuing impeachment.

    Ahead of the meeting, Trump aimed a barrage of early-morning tweets at House Democrats questioning their priorities as they prepared to discuss investigations into the administration amid the growing calls for impeachment proceedings.

    In his tweets, Trump claimed that Democrats are “getting ZERO work done in Congress” and are instead focused on what he called a continuation of a “Witch Hunt” into whether he sought to obstruct special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

    “PRESIDENTIAL HARASSMENT!” Trump wrote in the fourth of his tweets that began before 6 a.m.

    The president’s Twitter rant came about three hours before the Democratic caucus meeting called by Pelosi.

    Democrats have become increasingly frustrated with the administration’s refusal to cooperate with congressional requests for documents and testimony. That included the White House’s refusal to allow former counsel Donald McGahn to testify at a hearing Tuesday about key aspects of Mueller’s report.

    During the meeting, most lawmakers appeared to side with Pelosi, according to people in the room. Even some of those who had advocated opening an impeachment inquiry sounded more measured as they left the meeting.

    “I can see both sides,” said Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.), a Judiciary Committee member who has been one of the most aggressive advocates for impeachment. “I think we’re better served to move forward with an impeachment inquiry at a minimum, but I can understand the other side’s logic.” (continued in next post...)





    what a petty ahole he is. he cancels the meeting than tweets the dems can't get anything done.  
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    edited May 2019
    The POTUS just had a public tantrum and the whole world knows it. It's still always hard to believe (thank goodness).
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,967
    Is it Festivus today?


    Falling down,...not staying down
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    Kat said:
    Is it Festivus today?



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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,967
    lol, good one. The airing of grievances is the good part. :)
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,929
    Kat said:
    lol, good one. The airing of grievances is the good part. :)
    i am partial to feets of strength myself.   and Pelosi would totally whip Trump in feets of strength :)
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,364
    pjhawks said:
    Kat said:
    lol, good one. The airing of grievances is the good part. :)
    i am partial to feets of strength myself.   and Pelosi would totally whip Trump in feets of strength :)
    Team Trump Treason would get a deferment for bone spurs. Nancy wins by default.
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  • Kat
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    pjhawks said:
    Kat said:
    lol, good one. The airing of grievances is the good part. :)
    i am partial to feets of strength myself.   and Pelosi would totally whip Trump in feets of strength :)
    Team Trump Treason would get a deferment for bone spurs. Nancy wins by default.
    I'd like to think, since he took himself out of the game today, that Nancy already wins by default. :)

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,364
    This is the scary part, the wealthy few influencing the judiciary. Think Kochs, Adelson, Graham, et. al. Want to ban abortion, deny gay marriage or equal rights for gay people? Buy the judiciary. Its happening.

    Few people outside government have more influence over judicial appointments than Leonard Leo, an unofficial adviser to President Trump.
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  • mrussel1
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    Kat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    pjhawks said:
    Kat said:
    lol, good one. The airing of grievances is the good part. :)
    i am partial to feets of strength myself.   and Pelosi would totally whip Trump in feets of strength :)
    Team Trump Treason would get a deferment for bone spurs. Nancy wins by default.
    I'd like to think, since he took himself out of the game today, that Nancy already wins by default. :)

    You're right.  It's just like when he got all mad about the budget and declared he was going to shut down the gov't.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    These aren't good numbers.  Let's not fuck it up.  

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/444972-poll-60-percent-say-trump-should-not-be-reelected
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,967
    The missing page of numbers

    Katherine Faulders @KFaulders
    Trump held up an ABC News graphic during the Rose Garden event today -- but notably did not hold up a second page of that graphic -- that details the numbers of indictments, guilty pleas and people sent to prison. Here's both pages -->
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7MIz5NV4AIrh9i.png


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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Kat said:
    The missing page of numbers

    Katherine Faulders @KFaulders
    Trump held up an ABC News graphic during the Rose Garden event today -- but notably did not hold up a second page of that graphic -- that details the numbers of indictments, guilty pleas and people sent to prison. Here's both pages -->
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7MIz5NV4AIrh9i.png


    Wait...that is literally the second page of the same graphic Trump used? Wow. You cannot make this shit up. 
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  • ikiT
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    He off the rails insane yo.  
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,414
    The Juggler said:

    You know what I find funny about that graphic, the only 2 presidents not to be re-elected had the least amount of resistance. That doesn't exactly boost confidence that the higher numbers mean as much as we'd like to think.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,130
    tbergs said:
    The Juggler said:

    You know what I find funny about that graphic, the only 2 presidents not to be re-elected had the least amount of resistance. That doesn't exactly boost confidence that the higher numbers mean as much as we'd like to think.
    Great pick up. 
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,414
    edited May 2019
    Bentleyspop said:

    Who is the spineless marketing person that even allows shit like that to be produced? I can't imagine working in that department and creating that without feeling like a complete loser douche bag. I picture someone like Igor from Young Frankenstein, only less hump more evil glow.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    edited May 2019
    The thing is, they must have had that thing already made and waiting to be used. Trump was reacting there to something that had JUST happened. Did someone seriously run over to the printing room or whatever in the WH and have that made up in a matter of minutes? I doubt that. I think they had that thing sitting around, just hoping for a good time to use it. It's ridiculous. We'll probably continue to see it at rallies and stuff.
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