The House just voted to wipe out the FCC's Internet Privacy Protections...
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... And Trump is expected to sign it. 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/03/28/the-house-just-voted-to-wipe-out-the-fccs-landmark-internet-privacy-protections/?utm_term=.e3d75df66b8d&wpisrc=al_alert-COMBO-econ%2Bpolitics%2Bnation&wpmk=1
House Republicans voted overwhelmingly Tuesday, by a margin of 215-205, to repeal a set of landmark privacy protections for Web users, issuing a sweeping rebuke of Internet policies enacted under the Obama administration. It also marks a sharp, partisan pivot toward letting Internet providers collect and sell their customers' Web browsing history, location information, health data and other personal details.
The measure, which was approved by a 50-48 margin in the Senate last week, now heads to the White House, where President Trump is expected to sign it.
Congress's joint resolution empowers Internet providers to enter the $83 billion market for online advertising now dominated by Google and Facebook. It is likely to lend momentum to a broader GOP rollback of Obama-era technology policies, and calls into question the fate of other tech regulations such as net neutrality, which was approved in 2015 over strident Republican objections and bans Internet providers from discriminating against websites. And it is a sign that companies such as AT&T, Comcast and Verizon will be treated more permissively at a time when conservatives control all three branches of government.
Supporters of Tuesday's repeal vote argued the privacy regulations, written by the Federal Communications Commission, stifle innovation by forcing Internet providers to abide by unreasonably strict guidelines.
"[Consumer privacy] will be enhanced by removing the uncertainty and confusion these rules will create," said Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), who chairs the House subcommittee that oversees the FCC.
Internet providers can collect enormous amounts of personal information because they can see all of the online activities of users as they browse different sites on the Web, critics of the legislation said. And unlike search engines or streaming video sites, which consumers can easily abandon if they do not agree with their privacy practices, it is far more difficult to choose a different Internet provider. Many Americans have a choice of only one or two broadband companies in their area, according to federal statistics.
Privacy advocates called the House vote "a tremendous setback for America."
“Today’s vote means that Americans will never be safe online from having their most personal details stealthily scrutinized and sold to the highest bidder,” said Jeffrey Chester, executive director of the Center for Digital Democracy. “Donald Trump, by giving away our data to the country’s leading phone and cable giants, is further undermining American democracy.”
Industry groups said Tuesday's vote does not diminish broadband companies' commitment to user privacy.
"Our providers care very deeply and have a strong track record of operating in ways that protect and safeguard the privacy of their customers' data," said James Assey, executive vice president of NCTA — The Internet & Television Association, a top cable trade association. "These are program features that are built in by design; they existed long before the FCC rules were adopted, and they will exist long after the FCC rules are withdrawn."
The FCC's new Republican chairman, Ajit Pai, called the legislation "appropriate" and blamed his predecessor for executive overreach. He also said that responsibility for regulating Internet providers should fall to the Federal Trade Commission, despite the fact that the agency currently lacks the legal authority to do so.
"Moving forward, I want the American people to know that the FCC will work with the FTC to ensure that consumers’ online privacy is protected though a consistent and comprehensive framework," said Pai. "The best way to achieve that result would be to return jurisdiction over broadband providers’ privacy practices to the FTC, with its decades of experience and expertise in this area."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/03/28/the-house-just-voted-to-wipe-out-the-fccs-landmark-internet-privacy-protections/?utm_term=.e3d75df66b8d&wpisrc=al_alert-COMBO-econ%2Bpolitics%2Bnation&wpmk=1
House Republicans voted overwhelmingly Tuesday, by a margin of 215-205, to repeal a set of landmark privacy protections for Web users, issuing a sweeping rebuke of Internet policies enacted under the Obama administration. It also marks a sharp, partisan pivot toward letting Internet providers collect and sell their customers' Web browsing history, location information, health data and other personal details.
The measure, which was approved by a 50-48 margin in the Senate last week, now heads to the White House, where President Trump is expected to sign it.
Congress's joint resolution empowers Internet providers to enter the $83 billion market for online advertising now dominated by Google and Facebook. It is likely to lend momentum to a broader GOP rollback of Obama-era technology policies, and calls into question the fate of other tech regulations such as net neutrality, which was approved in 2015 over strident Republican objections and bans Internet providers from discriminating against websites. And it is a sign that companies such as AT&T, Comcast and Verizon will be treated more permissively at a time when conservatives control all three branches of government.
Supporters of Tuesday's repeal vote argued the privacy regulations, written by the Federal Communications Commission, stifle innovation by forcing Internet providers to abide by unreasonably strict guidelines.
"[Consumer privacy] will be enhanced by removing the uncertainty and confusion these rules will create," said Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), who chairs the House subcommittee that oversees the FCC.
Internet providers can collect enormous amounts of personal information because they can see all of the online activities of users as they browse different sites on the Web, critics of the legislation said. And unlike search engines or streaming video sites, which consumers can easily abandon if they do not agree with their privacy practices, it is far more difficult to choose a different Internet provider. Many Americans have a choice of only one or two broadband companies in their area, according to federal statistics.
Privacy advocates called the House vote "a tremendous setback for America."
“Today’s vote means that Americans will never be safe online from having their most personal details stealthily scrutinized and sold to the highest bidder,” said Jeffrey Chester, executive director of the Center for Digital Democracy. “Donald Trump, by giving away our data to the country’s leading phone and cable giants, is further undermining American democracy.”
Industry groups said Tuesday's vote does not diminish broadband companies' commitment to user privacy.
"Our providers care very deeply and have a strong track record of operating in ways that protect and safeguard the privacy of their customers' data," said James Assey, executive vice president of NCTA — The Internet & Television Association, a top cable trade association. "These are program features that are built in by design; they existed long before the FCC rules were adopted, and they will exist long after the FCC rules are withdrawn."
The FCC's new Republican chairman, Ajit Pai, called the legislation "appropriate" and blamed his predecessor for executive overreach. He also said that responsibility for regulating Internet providers should fall to the Federal Trade Commission, despite the fact that the agency currently lacks the legal authority to do so.
"Moving forward, I want the American people to know that the FCC will work with the FTC to ensure that consumers’ online privacy is protected though a consistent and comprehensive framework," said Pai. "The best way to achieve that result would be to return jurisdiction over broadband providers’ privacy practices to the FTC, with its decades of experience and expertise in this area."
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Now that ISPs can monetize my personal information, my rates will go down right? Right?0
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Seems more like they should be paying you, eh?CM189191 said:Now that ISPs can monetize my personal information, my rates will go down right? Right?
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487As if online privacy has just begun to be an issue...0 -
Ridiculous. I don't think I can be a Republican anymore. These folks just suck.0
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I thought this type of event would have been one to rile you up a tad, Unsung.unsung said:As if online privacy has just begun to be an issue...
This remark seems to be a bit of a defence. You've tipped your cap somewhat."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
These are the things that make no sense to me. It's completely nuts. I'll have to read more to find out what the justification is.hippiemom = goodness0
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moneycincybearcat said:These are the things that make no sense to me. It's completely nuts. I'll have to read more to find out what the justification is.
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Stay off the interwebs, problem solved.unsung said:As if online privacy has just begun to be an issue...
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The justification is that your ISP is a private business, and you agree to their terms. They claim they have a right to monetize your activity, much like grocery stores do with their affinity programs. The argument is that you can either find a different ISP that cares more about respecting their customers' privacy, or stay off the Internet. But the problem is that in many regions consumers don't have a choice of ISP. So if you want to be connected to the Internet, your actions will be monitored, logged, and sold.
I loved the disingenous comment in the OP which sounds like it could have been written by George Orwell:
"[Consumer privacy] will be enhanced by removing the uncertainty and confusion these rules will create," said Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), who chairs the House subcommittee that oversees the FCC.
SO, what can you do? There are a few things you can do to make it a little more difficult on your ISP. There is really nothing you can do to completely stay private unless you have unlimited financial resources, and lots of spare time. But in the meantime:
- Connect through a VPN. This will encrypt your data through your ISP. The only problem is that your VPN provider, if they wanted to, could then have the same transaction data your ISP does. But VPN providers are historically less willing to compromise your data, and some of them are very privacy focused. But you need to do your homework before signing up with one. It can also slow down your connection and there are sites like Netflix that actively block users coming in through VPNs that they know about. Don't just go for the cheapest, shadiest VPN either. At some level a VPN could be a giant key logger. So again, do your homework. Find a VPN that is reviewed well for both cost, performance and privacy. See if they disclose what they log or if they log your activity.
- Connect to websites via HTTPS:// rather than HTTP:// whenever you can. There is a push now for all website creators to have a secure connection (not just the ones that take credit cards), and when you connect via HTTPS:// your data is encrypted between your workstation and the web server. So your ISP can know when you went to a site, how often you go to a site, etc... but can't see the data that you're sending back and forth.
- Tails / Tor - You can try to use TOR, booting off of a live USB stick running Tails to have a mostly-anonymous experience, but like anything, there are issues with that depending on what you're doing. If you use TOR and visit a site that somehow identifies you (via login or something), then you've just lost anonymity. The other issue is that Tor exit nodes could be potentially vulnerable. It is also slow, and requires a bit of work to get set up.
The battle for privacy is tough. If you don't care what ISPs do with your data, then no worries! If you do, then it is time to figure out how to lock things down a little more tightly."I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080 -
Yes. This is right in the conservative playbook. The ISP is not government. If you don't want your ISP doing this find one that won't. The market will sort this out.jeffbr said:The justification is that your ISP is a private business, and you agree to their terms. They claim they have a right to monetize your activity, much like grocery stores do with their affinity programs. The argument is that you can either find a different ISP that cares more about respecting their customers' privacy, or stay off the Internet. But the problem is that in many regions consumers don't have a choice of ISP. So if you want to be connected to the Internet, your actions will be monitored, logged, and sold.
I loved the disingenous comment in the OP which sounds like it could have been written by George Orwell:
"[Consumer privacy] will be enhanced by removing the uncertainty and confusion these rules will create," said Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), who chairs the House subcommittee that oversees the FCC.
SO, what can you do? There are a few things you can do to make it a little more difficult on your ISP. There is really nothing you can do to completely stay private unless you have unlimited financial resources, and lots of spare time. But in the meantime:
- Connect through a VPN. This will encrypt your data through your ISP. The only problem is that your VPN provider, if they wanted to, could then have the same transaction data your ISP does. But VPN providers are historically less willing to compromise your data, and some of them are very privacy focused. But you need to do your homework before signing up with one. It can also slow down your connection and there are sites like Netflix that actively block users coming in through VPNs that they know about. Don't just go for the cheapest, shadiest VPN either. At some level a VPN could be a giant key logger. So again, do your homework. Find a VPN that is reviewed well for both cost, performance and privacy. See if they disclose what they log or if they log your activity.
- Connect to websites via HTTPS:// rather than HTTP:// whenever you can. There is a push now for all website creators to have a secure connection (not just the ones that take credit cards), and when you connect via HTTPS:// your data is encrypted between your workstation and the web server. So your ISP can know when you went to a site, how often you go to a site, etc... but can't see the data that you're sending back and forth.
- Tails / Tor - You can try to use TOR, booting off of a live USB stick running Tails to have a mostly-anonymous experience, but like anything, there are issues with that depending on what you're doing. If you use TOR and visit a site that somehow identifies you (via login or something), then you've just lost anonymity. The other issue is that Tor exit nodes could be potentially vulnerable. It is also slow, and requires a bit of work to get set up.
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Nope. I have already made changes to secure my online identity. You can too if you so desired.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I thought this type of event would have been one to rile you up a tad, Unsung.unsung said:As if online privacy has just begun to be an issue...
This remark seems to be a bit of a defence. You've tipped your cap somewhat.0 -
So here comes more porn advertising to some people...
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So basically you don't care about anything unless it directly impacts you. Do you know how many people don't even know what a VPN is? But that's not even the point. The point is the principle of it, not to mention that this will allow openings to them finding workarounds and loopholes for your supposedly infallible online security measures.unsung said:
Nope. I have already made changes to secure my online identity. You can too if you so desired.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I thought this type of event would have been one to rile you up a tad, Unsung.unsung said:As if online privacy has just begun to be an issue...
This remark seems to be a bit of a defence. You've tipped your cap somewhat.
I wonder if it's occurred to you that everyone having to work to keep up with the government's violations of our rights to privacy in order to prevent them from using us isn't exactly an acceptable state of affairs?Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Trump will have no idea what he is signing.
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Five months ago it wasn't a problem when this same situation existed, you know when obama was President.PJ_Soul said:
So basically you don't care about anything unless it directly impacts you. Do you know how many people don't even know what a VPN is? But that's not even the point. The point is the principle of it, not to mention that this will allow openings to them finding workarounds and loopholes for your supposedly infallible online security measures.unsung said:
Nope. I have already made changes to secure my online identity. You can too if you so desired.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I thought this type of event would have been one to rile you up a tad, Unsung.unsung said:As if online privacy has just begun to be an issue...
This remark seems to be a bit of a defence. You've tipped your cap somewhat.
I wonder if it's occurred to you that everyone having to work to keep up with the government's violations of our rights to privacy in order to prevent them from using us isn't exactly an acceptable state of affairs?0 -
As someone already pointed out, nobody ever claimed or thought that privacy wasn't an issue. However, we are talking about a NEW issue now, as indicated by the title of this thread. I'm sure you're able to wrap your brain around that concept.unsung said:
Five months ago it wasn't a problem when this same situation existed, you know when obama was President.PJ_Soul said:
So basically you don't care about anything unless it directly impacts you. Do you know how many people don't even know what a VPN is? But that's not even the point. The point is the principle of it, not to mention that this will allow openings to them finding workarounds and loopholes for your supposedly infallible online security measures.unsung said:
Nope. I have already made changes to secure my online identity. You can too if you so desired.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I thought this type of event would have been one to rile you up a tad, Unsung.unsung said:As if online privacy has just begun to be an issue...
This remark seems to be a bit of a defence. You've tipped your cap somewhat.
I wonder if it's occurred to you that everyone having to work to keep up with the government's violations of our rights to privacy in order to prevent them from using us isn't exactly an acceptable state of affairs?With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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