Should celebrities avoid talking politics to fans ?

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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,830
    They don't have to worry about it. And aside from this poll where the question was asked, I've actually never complained about it before. That's just my opinion, and I'll go to the next show within 2 hours of a drive, and if it weren't for 2 kids I'd be seeing multiple shows again. Actually had plans to go back to LA for a few shows in 2014 and put in for the NYC lotto the week my wife found out she was pregnant with our first. Canceled LA plans and prayed I didn't win the lotto (which I didn't) because I knew those travel days were gone at that point. At least for the next 15 years or so.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,914
    no, i think they should go on a website, anonymously of course, and spew hatred for the previous President and how great the current Potus is. when questioned why the previous Potus was so bad they should ignore all questions. When asked what the new Potus has done say nothing of substance other than things are will be better all the while ignoring the daily lies that come from the current Potus' mouth and twitter account. they should also ignore all the questionable humans in the current administration and show their support for an agenda designed to discriminate against certain members of society.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    pjhawks said:

    no, i think they should go on a website, anonymously of course, and spew hatred for the previous President and how great the current Potus is. when questioned why the previous Potus was so bad they should ignore all questions. When asked what the new Potus has done say nothing of substance other than things are will be better all the while ignoring the daily lies that come from the current Potus' mouth and twitter account. they should also ignore all the questionable humans in the current administration and show their support for an agenda designed to discriminate against certain members of society.

    Seems like a good plan.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Godfather. said:

    rgambs said:

    It is only butthurt conservatives who want entertainers to abstain from voicing opinions.

    that's funny, cause as far as I can see it's the liberals who are butthurt......Hillary lost remember ?

    Nope, I forgot.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,559
    rgambs said:

    Godfather. said:

    rgambs said:

    It is only butthurt conservatives who want entertainers to abstain from voicing opinions.

    that's funny, cause as far as I can see it's the liberals who are butthurt......Hillary lost remember ?

    Nope, I forgot.
    I wonder if it means I'm butthurt if I point out that old man Godfather will be paying higher insurance premiums since trumpcare pulled those limits off for people in his age range?
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,830
    Degeneratefk said:

    I hear what you're saying. But why does the band have to worry about what time you get home? When you put in for your tickets, you have a pretty good idea what the "trip" is going to entail as far as time off work, drive to and from, and costs associated with going to the show (gas money, hotel room, babysitters.)

    I just don't know what any of that has to do with it. I'm sorry if you answered this already, but does it really bother you to hear Ed (or any frontman) talk about their politics for 10-15 during a 3 hour show?

    The news broke that prince died while we were in line for the columbia show. Ed spent about 5 minutes or so talking about him before they played light years. I don't think it really bothered anyone that he wasted 5 minutes talking about prince. Later on, he spoke for another 5-7 minutes about cancelling the NC show and how there was a similar bill in SC. He got some boos. But im not sure it ruined anyone's experience.

    I can definitely agree to disagree with you on this. I'm just not sure what I'm disagreeing with you about. I'm being specific to pearl jam because I don't know of many other bands that play for 3 hours. Maybe you've been to other shows where the band played for 90 minutes and qt of it was used to talk about other stuff. I can understand people having a problem with that.

    To answer your question, no it doesn't bother me. But if I got to vote on it, I'd prefer that time was devoted to more songs or more sleep. But no, it doesn't bother me.
    And talking about Prince the day he died is relevant, and dedicating a song in his honor. That's different that talking about a stance that everyone already knows and doesn't always agree with though.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    I'd rather not listen to any celeb's political views, I didn't go to a show or watch a movie to listen to them talk about their political views
    especially a concert, when I go to a concert the last thing I want to do is get pissed off over politics' while I'm trying to have a good time, and
    these actors and actress' who use their celeb status to talk about their political views just really ruins it for me, then there's the athletes...look what happened to Kaepernick, I predicted he'd be job hunting and now look at his sorry ass, a free agent with no offers yet I believe.
    how would your boss react if you used your work time and company name to push your political views ?

  • unsung
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    edited March 2017
    rgambs said:

    It is only butthurt conservatives who want entertainers to abstain from voicing opinions.

    Actually I think when they spout off stupidity, saves me money.

    #notaconservativetho
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Godfather. said:

    I'd rather not listen to any celeb's political views, I didn't go to a show or watch a movie to listen to them talk about their political views
    especially a concert, when I go to a concert the last thing I want to do is get pissed off over politics' while I'm trying to have a good time, and
    these actors and actress' who use their celeb status to talk about their political views just really ruins it for me, then there's the athletes...look what happened to Kaepernick, I predicted he'd be job hunting and now look at his sorry ass, a free agent with no offers yet I believe.
    how would your boss react if you used your work time and company name to push your political views ?

    Kaepernick's issues stem from his sorry play, not from his politics. Lebron James has made political statements in the past.. think he will be an unsigned free agent any time soon?
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,625
    Nope I'm looking forward to the next PJ show and Ed blasts your hero , I hope all artist never stop talking politics ...
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    The point I am making isn't that you can't be upset if you go to a PJ show and hear Ed ramble for 10 minutes. My point is you've been a fan long enough to know that there is almost a 100% certainty that when you go to a PJ show, you are going to hear him rant at some point. You also know what his views and stances are. So that it's your decision to purchase that ticket. Because when you purchase those tickets, you know that you're going to hear Ed's views. Like it or not. If you dont like it, you don't have to buy the tix.
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    I'd love to go to a pj show and hear 3 hours of music. But, they are old too and needs breaks. So 2 hours and 15 minutes of music combined with 30 minutes of total encode time and 15 minutes of listening to Ed rant is well worth the $80 per ticket. In my opinion.
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  • unsung
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    When he rants it is a good time to get a beer.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    I'm curious. You guys make it sound like Ed goes for half an hour. Now, I'm just guessing here, but I'd think the tours of 2003-2006 were by far the most political. I hit up a ton of those shows and have even more boots from then and I don't know if I could ever say Ed went even close to ten minutes. The Vote For Change shows were probably the longest rants around ten minutes. Also, the northeast shows from '03 (Buffalo, Uniondale) were very vocal. So, what do you guys think is a legit length to estimate how long Ed talks. This is a separate from the pro/con argument of speaking, which shows went the longest on rants?
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I can get beers really fast though.
  • seanwon
    seanwon Posts: 595
    mrussel1 said:

    Godfather. said:

    I'd rather not listen to any celeb's political views, I didn't go to a show or watch a movie to listen to them talk about their political views
    especially a concert, when I go to a concert the last thing I want to do is get pissed off over politics' while I'm trying to have a good time, and
    these actors and actress' who use their celeb status to talk about their political views just really ruins it for me, then there's the athletes...look what happened to Kaepernick, I predicted he'd be job hunting and now look at his sorry ass, a free agent with no offers yet I believe.
    how would your boss react if you used your work time and company name to push your political views ?

    Kaepernick's issues stem from his sorry play, not from his politics. Lebron James has made political statements in the past.. think he will be an unsigned free agent any time soon?
    Actually Kap passed for 16 TD's vs. only 4 INT's last season, with a 90.7 rating, third highest in his 6 year career. He also rushed for nearly 500 yards, with a 6.8 YPC average, highest in his career. On one of the 2 worst teams in the NFL. I wonder why so many people view him as having a bad season?
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    ledvedderman said:

    I'm curious. You guys make it sound like Ed goes for half an hour. Now, I'm just guessing here, but I'd think the tours of 2003-2006 were by far the most political. I hit up a ton of those shows and have even more boots from then and I don't know if I could ever say Ed went even close to ten minutes. The Vote For Change shows were probably the longest rants around ten minutes. Also, the northeast shows from '03 (Buffalo, Uniondale) were very vocal. So, what do you guys think is a legit length to estimate how long Ed talks. This is a separate from the pro/con argument of speaking, which shows went the longest on rants?

    No, I don't think he yaps too much. Maybe 10-15 minutes out of 3 hours. And maybe 5 of thise are political rants.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    mrussel1 said:

    Godfather. said:

    I'd rather not listen to any celeb's political views, I didn't go to a show or watch a movie to listen to them talk about their political views
    especially a concert, when I go to a concert the last thing I want to do is get pissed off over politics' while I'm trying to have a good time, and
    these actors and actress' who use their celeb status to talk about their political views just really ruins it for me, then there's the athletes...look what happened to Kaepernick, I predicted he'd be job hunting and now look at his sorry ass, a free agent with no offers yet I believe.
    how would your boss react if you used your work time and company name to push your political views ?

    Kaepernick's issues stem from his sorry play, not from his politics. Lebron James has made political statements in the past.. think he will be an unsigned free agent any time soon?
    mrussel1 said:

    Godfather. said:

    I'd rather not listen to any celeb's political views, I didn't go to a show or watch a movie to listen to them talk about their political views
    especially a concert, when I go to a concert the last thing I want to do is get pissed off over politics' while I'm trying to have a good time, and
    these actors and actress' who use their celeb status to talk about their political views just really ruins it for me, then there's the athletes...look what happened to Kaepernick, I predicted he'd be job hunting and now look at his sorry ass, a free agent with no offers yet I believe.
    how would your boss react if you used your work time and company name to push your political views ?

    Kaepernick's issues stem from his sorry play, not from his politics. Lebron James has made political statements in the past.. think he will be an unsigned free agent any time soon?
    agree, but his refusal to stand during the national anthem ruined his popularity and interest from other teams.

  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,625
    Godfather. said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Godfather. said:

    I'd rather not listen to any celeb's political views, I didn't go to a show or watch a movie to listen to them talk about their political views
    especially a concert, when I go to a concert the last thing I want to do is get pissed off over politics' while I'm trying to have a good time, and
    these actors and actress' who use their celeb status to talk about their political views just really ruins it for me, then there's the athletes...look what happened to Kaepernick, I predicted he'd be job hunting and now look at his sorry ass, a free agent with no offers yet I believe.
    how would your boss react if you used your work time and company name to push your political views ?

    Kaepernick's issues stem from his sorry play, not from his politics. Lebron James has made political statements in the past.. think he will be an unsigned free agent any time soon?
    mrussel1 said:

    Godfather. said:

    I'd rather not listen to any celeb's political views, I didn't go to a show or watch a movie to listen to them talk about their political views
    especially a concert, when I go to a concert the last thing I want to do is get pissed off over politics' while I'm trying to have a good time, and
    these actors and actress' who use their celeb status to talk about their political views just really ruins it for me, then there's the athletes...look what happened to Kaepernick, I predicted he'd be job hunting and now look at his sorry ass, a free agent with no offers yet I believe.
    how would your boss react if you used your work time and company name to push your political views ?

    Kaepernick's issues stem from his sorry play, not from his politics. Lebron James has made political statements in the past.. think he will be an unsigned free agent any time soon?
    agree, but his refusal to stand during the national anthem ruined his popularity and interest from other teams.

    You see I commend him on kneeling for something he believes in rather then worrying how the sports world would look at him , like they say "it's better to die on your feet than live on your knees " PG Midnight Oil ...
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    josevolution said:

    Godfather. said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Godfather. said:

    I'd rather not listen to any celeb's political views, I didn't go to a show or watch a movie to listen to them talk about their political views
    especially a concert, when I go to a concert the last thing I want to do is get pissed off over politics' while I'm trying to have a good time, and
    these actors and actress' who use their celeb status to talk about their political views just really ruins it for me, then there's the athletes...look what happened to Kaepernick, I predicted he'd be job hunting and now look at his sorry ass, a free agent with no offers yet I believe.
    how would your boss react if you used your work time and company name to push your political views ?

    Kaepernick's issues stem from his sorry play, not from his politics. Lebron James has made political statements in the past.. think he will be an unsigned free agent any time soon?
    mrussel1 said:

    Godfather. said:

    I'd rather not listen to any celeb's political views, I didn't go to a show or watch a movie to listen to them talk about their political views
    especially a concert, when I go to a concert the last thing I want to do is get pissed off over politics' while I'm trying to have a good time, and
    these actors and actress' who use their celeb status to talk about their political views just really ruins it for me, then there's the athletes...look what happened to Kaepernick, I predicted he'd be job hunting and now look at his sorry ass, a free agent with no offers yet I believe.
    how would your boss react if you used your work time and company name to push your political views ?

    Kaepernick's issues stem from his sorry play, not from his politics. Lebron James has made political statements in the past.. think he will be an unsigned free agent any time soon?
    agree, but his refusal to stand during the national anthem ruined his popularity and interest from other teams.

    You see I commend him on kneeling for something he believes in rather then worrying how the sports world would look at him , like they say "it's better to die on your feet than live on your knees " PG Midnight Oil ...
    "On bended knee is no way to be free...."
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