--THE FORMAL IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY OF DONALD J TRUMP--

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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 16,287
    edited April 21
    Nadler has that "no bullshit" face. I appreciate it.

    Full Nadler: 'There Is Plenty Of Evidence Of Obstruction' | Meet The Press | NBC News

    @mcgruff10 you should watch this. @The Juggler you already have the hang of it, it seems. No need to rush to watch some no-bullshit-Nadler.



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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 16,287
    Adam Schiff on Fox News


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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,118
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    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    Blah blah blah 

    So far we have Roger "Nixon Bong" Stoned indicted for talking to wikileaks... indictments talk, bullshit walks 
    And a 10 count indictment for obstruction of justice for the house to pursue and 14 ongoing criminal investigations. Yea, nothing to see here except for Rodger Dodger Stoned talking to Julian Asstrange.
    Surprised @my2hands coming off as ignorant and disingenuous here on AMT. I don't get it. He seems reasonable in other areas of the forum.

    Don't see the reason for acting dumb, when there is no need for it.
    YES!!! I am ignorant, disingenuous, AND dumb...

    Sweet!!!
    acting dumb.
    Thanks for clarifying 

    *eyeroll*
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 16,287
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    Blah blah blah 

    So far we have Roger "Nixon Bong" Stoned indicted for talking to wikileaks... indictments talk, bullshit walks 
    And a 10 count indictment for obstruction of justice for the house to pursue and 14 ongoing criminal investigations. Yea, nothing to see here except for Rodger Dodger Stoned talking to Julian Asstrange.
    Surprised @my2hands coming off as ignorant and disingenuous here on AMT. I don't get it. He seems reasonable in other areas of the forum.

    Don't see the reason for acting dumb, when there is no need for it.
    YES!!! I am ignorant, disingenuous, AND dumb...

    Sweet!!!
    acting dumb.
    Thanks for clarifying 

    *eyeroll*
    No problem. *highfiveemoji*

    Dershowitz is a bit sad that CNN isn't calling him anymore and that they chose Avenetti over him:



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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 21,481

    Impeach, impeach, impeach, Impeach, impeach, impeach, impeach, Impeach, impeach, impeach.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 1,404
    edited April 22
    "THE FIELD"


    That opinion Blows.

    Seriously, what Mr. Blow fails to say in support of his claim is that the Rs impeached Clinton and then won the presidency and House in the next election 

    But with Trump, the Senate voting not guilty (not to remove) will give Trump another opportunity to claim vindication and witch hunt, this time it would be immediately before the election.

    I do support impeachment investigations, but Pelosi should only bring it to a vote if there is bipartisan support for removal
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 1,404
    "THE FIELD"
    my2hands said:
    Blah blah blah 

    So far we have Roger "Nixon Bong" Stoned indicted for talking to wikileaks... indictments talk, bullshit walks 


    Donald Trump Junior's ignorance of the law and incompetence to hold a position of responsibility on the campaign is what saved Daddy from a conspiracy related indictment, per mueller.

    Hey My party and president are corrupt as f*ck but we are great again because we didn't get indicted, yippee!
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 21,481


    That opinion Blows.

    Seriously, what Mr. Blow fails to say in support of his claim is that the Rs impeached Clinton and then won the presidency and House in the next election 

    But with Trump, the Senate voting not guilty (not to remove) will give Trump another opportunity to claim vindication and witch hunt, this time it would be immediately before the election.

    I do support impeachment investigations, but Pelosi should only bring it to a vote if there is bipartisan support for removal
    I disagree. The political fallout be damned. Impeachment in the house is the strongest rebuke we can give in light of not being able to indict a sitting POTUS. To “let it slide,” would be a colossal mistake. Are you okay with letting 10 counts of obstruction and abuse of power being ignored? Foolish.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,118
    2017
    my2hands said:
    Blah blah blah 

    So far we have Roger "Nixon Bong" Stoned indicted for talking to wikileaks... indictments talk, bullshit walks 


    Donald Trump Junior's ignorance of the law and incompetence to hold a position of responsibility on the campaign is what saved Daddy from a conspiracy related indictment, per mueller.

    Hey My party and president are corrupt as f*ck but we are great again because we didn't get indicted, yippee!
    Ignorance of the law is not an excuse and Mueller learned that in middle school civics class
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 16,287
    Everybody should just calm down. There was no obstruction - even Mitt Romney clearly stated it and he was ”spot on” from everything I’ve read. 

    So no impeachement. And If we know one thing about Donald Trump it is how he cares about other people. So he will use his time untill the election now to heal the country and help America. That is truly a characterestic of the man - wanting to help others. 

    Why put impeachment in the way of Trumps mission for America and the american people? Why keep going after this exonarated man?
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    Everybody should just calm down. There was no obstruction - even Mitt Romney clearly stated it and he was ”spot on” from everything I’ve read. 

    So no impeachement. And If we know one thing about Donald Trump it is how he cares about other people. So he will use his time untill the election now to heal the country and help America. That is truly a characterestic of the man - wanting to help others. 

    Why put impeachment in the way of Trumps mission for America and the american people? Why keep going after this exonarated man?
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 16,287
    Talking impeachment:


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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon In My PlacePosts: 19,250
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     I was previously of the mind that impeachment was a waste of time. Now i see it as imperative to upholding the integrity of the american political process. 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 21,716
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    Yep make the GOP take sides your either for the good of the country or you side with a proven liar crook!
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 21,481
    The repub fuckers are basically daring the dems to do it, either because they think they won’t and they be emboldened by getting away with it or because they think it’ll bring on the second coming and the evangelicals will rejoice. Team Trump Treason needs a good pop in the mouth and impeachment is the way to do it.
     
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 1,889
    "THE FIELD"
    The repub fuckers are basically daring the dems to do it, either because they think they won’t and they be emboldened by getting away with it or because they think it’ll bring on the second coming and the evangelicals will rejoice. Team Trump Treason needs a good pop in the mouth and impeachment is the way to do it.
     
    Disclaimer: This is a metaphorical pop in the mouth.  We don't need the next three pages to be about this.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 21,481
    OnWis97 said:
    The repub fuckers are basically daring the dems to do it, either because they think they won’t and they be emboldened by getting away with it or because they think it’ll bring on the second coming and the evangelicals will rejoice. Team Trump Treason needs a good pop in the mouth and impeachment is the way to do it.
     
    Disclaimer: This is a metaphorical pop in the mouth.  We don't need the next three pages to be about this.
    Oh I know some will claim I’m advocating physical violence against Team Trump Treason, which I’m not.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,118
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    The repub fuckers are basically daring the dems to do it, either because they think they won’t and they be emboldened by getting away with it or because they think it’ll bring on the second coming and the evangelicals will rejoice. Team Trump Treason needs a good pop in the mouth and impeachment is the way to do it.
     
    Now THAT is my kind of pop in the mouth!

    I'm rolling shotgun with Halifax on this one... if the dems feel they have the case, then it's time to put the chips on the fucking table and turn up the volume

    Fuck it
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    my2hands said:
    The repub fuckers are basically daring the dems to do it, either because they think they won’t and they be emboldened by getting away with it or because they think it’ll bring on the second coming and the evangelicals will rejoice. Team Trump Treason needs a good pop in the mouth and impeachment is the way to do it.
     
    Now THAT is my kind of pop in the mouth!

    I'm rolling shotgun with Halifax on this one... if the dems feel they have the case, then it's time to put the chips on the fucking table and turn up the volume

    Fuck it
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 4,583
    OnWis97 said:
    The repub fuckers are basically daring the dems to do it, either because they think they won’t and they be emboldened by getting away with it or because they think it’ll bring on the second coming and the evangelicals will rejoice. Team Trump Treason needs a good pop in the mouth and impeachment is the way to do it.
     
    Disclaimer: This is a metaphorical pop in the mouth.  We don't need the next three pages to be about this.

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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 16,287
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    This guy doesn't agree with Mitt Romney:

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 34,735
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    I heard David Jolly make the argument for impeachment RIGHT NOW. Fuck waiting on subpoenas and going to court over executive privileged and all the other stuff Trump will do to slow the process up. There are plenty of things to impeach him on right now. They can have everything wrapped up by Memorial Day. Get everyone to vote on the record. Then you can move on and not have it drag on into the election cycle...
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 11,553
    I heard David Jolly make the argument for impeachment RIGHT NOW. Fuck waiting on subpoenas and going to court over executive privileged and all the other stuff Trump will do to slow the process up. There are plenty of things to impeach him on right now. They can have everything wrapped up by Memorial Day. Get everyone to vote on the record. Then you can move on and not have it drag on into the election cycle...
    I was about to comment that I think it would drag on into the election cycle, until I looked up that, regarding Clinton, the House initiated impeachment proceedings in December 1998, and he was acquitted in the Senate on February 12, 1999. Mind you, there'd be more layers to peel with Trump than there was with Clinton, so a Trump Senate trial would probably take longer. 

    I know a lot of you disagree, but I think it'd be a horrible idea to impeach Trump because he won't be convicted in the Senate. Some seem to feel like "Who cares? He deserves to be impeached, so impeach him and let the chips fall where they may." Fair enough, but for those of you that are OBSESSED with seeing him brought down, a Senate acquittal in an impeachment trial will be looked at by the vast majority of the electorate as another failed attempt at bringing him down. Evidence of collusion per the Mueller report? Nope. Evidence of obstruction of justice? Close...but no cigar. Throw in an impeachment that doesn't lead to a conviction, and god help us, HE might start looking like a victim to undecided voters that don't follow this stuff closely (or at all). 
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  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 6,673
    2017
    I heard David Jolly make the argument for impeachment RIGHT NOW. Fuck waiting on subpoenas and going to court over executive privileged and all the other stuff Trump will do to slow the process up. There are plenty of things to impeach him on right now. They can have everything wrapped up by Memorial Day. Get everyone to vote on the record. Then you can move on and not have it drag on into the election cycle...
    I was about to comment that I think it would drag on into the election cycle, until I looked up that, regarding Clinton, the House initiated impeachment proceedings in December 1998, and he was acquitted in the Senate on February 12, 1999. Mind you, there'd be more layers to peel with Trump than there was with Clinton, so a Trump Senate trial would probably take longer. 

    I know a lot of you disagree, but I think it'd be a horrible idea to impeach Trump because he won't be convicted in the Senate. Some seem to feel like "Who cares? He deserves to be impeached, so impeach him and let the chips fall where they may." Fair enough, but for those of you that are OBSESSED with seeing him brought down, a Senate acquittal in an impeachment trial will be looked at by the vast majority of the electorate as another failed attempt at bringing him down. Evidence of collusion per the Mueller report? Nope. Evidence of obstruction of justice? Close...but no cigar. Throw in an impeachment that doesn't lead to a conviction, and god help us, HE might start looking like a victim to undecided voters that don't follow this stuff closely (or at all). 
    The problem is, he already is that martyr to some. Look at this 24 year veteran of the FBI and head of a security firm who uses incendiary language to pop off with deep state conspiracy theories and unfounded theories to decide that there was absolutely nothing, nada, zip in the Mueller report in terms of collusion, and that the Mueller team shouldn't have even started looking into obstruction except that they are out to get Trump. And thank goodness, according to this guy, that AG Barr is doing what he does and standing strong. What a pile of manure:
    www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/the-mueller-report-concludes-it-was-not-needed/ar-BBW8iPl

    Anyway, it isn't just about sticking it to Trump. I want to stick it to the GOP in the Senate who continue to enable Trump and avoid doing their actual job of oversight. I want each of those assholes on record in an impeachment vote, and have that vote used against them in the 2020 elections if their seat is up.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon In My PlacePosts: 19,250
    2018
    jeffbr said:
    I heard David Jolly make the argument for impeachment RIGHT NOW. Fuck waiting on subpoenas and going to court over executive privileged and all the other stuff Trump will do to slow the process up. There are plenty of things to impeach him on right now. They can have everything wrapped up by Memorial Day. Get everyone to vote on the record. Then you can move on and not have it drag on into the election cycle...
    I was about to comment that I think it would drag on into the election cycle, until I looked up that, regarding Clinton, the House initiated impeachment proceedings in December 1998, and he was acquitted in the Senate on February 12, 1999. Mind you, there'd be more layers to peel with Trump than there was with Clinton, so a Trump Senate trial would probably take longer. 

    I know a lot of you disagree, but I think it'd be a horrible idea to impeach Trump because he won't be convicted in the Senate. Some seem to feel like "Who cares? He deserves to be impeached, so impeach him and let the chips fall where they may." Fair enough, but for those of you that are OBSESSED with seeing him brought down, a Senate acquittal in an impeachment trial will be looked at by the vast majority of the electorate as another failed attempt at bringing him down. Evidence of collusion per the Mueller report? Nope. Evidence of obstruction of justice? Close...but no cigar. Throw in an impeachment that doesn't lead to a conviction, and god help us, HE might start looking like a victim to undecided voters that don't follow this stuff closely (or at all). 
    The problem is, he already is that martyr to some. Look at this 24 year veteran of the FBI and head of a security firm who uses incendiary language to pop off with deep state conspiracy theories and unfounded theories to decide that there was absolutely nothing, nada, zip in the Mueller report in terms of collusion, and that the Mueller team shouldn't have even started looking into obstruction except that they are out to get Trump. And thank goodness, according to this guy, that AG Barr is doing what he does and standing strong. What a pile of manure:
    www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/the-mueller-report-concludes-it-was-not-needed/ar-BBW8iPl

    Anyway, it isn't just about sticking it to Trump. I want to stick it to the GOP in the Senate who continue to enable Trump and avoid doing their actual job of oversight. I want each of those assholes on record in an impeachment vote, and have that vote used against them in the 2020 elections if their seat is up.
    anyone know how the senators in the Clinton impeachment era fared after voting not guilty?
    Headstones and Watchmen Fan Boy
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 34,735
    2019
    jeffbr said:
    I heard David Jolly make the argument for impeachment RIGHT NOW. Fuck waiting on subpoenas and going to court over executive privileged and all the other stuff Trump will do to slow the process up. There are plenty of things to impeach him on right now. They can have everything wrapped up by Memorial Day. Get everyone to vote on the record. Then you can move on and not have it drag on into the election cycle...
    I was about to comment that I think it would drag on into the election cycle, until I looked up that, regarding Clinton, the House initiated impeachment proceedings in December 1998, and he was acquitted in the Senate on February 12, 1999. Mind you, there'd be more layers to peel with Trump than there was with Clinton, so a Trump Senate trial would probably take longer. 

    I know a lot of you disagree, but I think it'd be a horrible idea to impeach Trump because he won't be convicted in the Senate. Some seem to feel like "Who cares? He deserves to be impeached, so impeach him and let the chips fall where they may." Fair enough, but for those of you that are OBSESSED with seeing him brought down, a Senate acquittal in an impeachment trial will be looked at by the vast majority of the electorate as another failed attempt at bringing him down. Evidence of collusion per the Mueller report? Nope. Evidence of obstruction of justice? Close...but no cigar. Throw in an impeachment that doesn't lead to a conviction, and god help us, HE might start looking like a victim to undecided voters that don't follow this stuff closely (or at all). 
    The problem is, he already is that martyr to some. Look at this 24 year veteran of the FBI and head of a security firm who uses incendiary language to pop off with deep state conspiracy theories and unfounded theories to decide that there was absolutely nothing, nada, zip in the Mueller report in terms of collusion, and that the Mueller team shouldn't have even started looking into obstruction except that they are out to get Trump. And thank goodness, according to this guy, that AG Barr is doing what he does and standing strong. What a pile of manure:
    www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/the-mueller-report-concludes-it-was-not-needed/ar-BBW8iPl

    Anyway, it isn't just about sticking it to Trump. I want to stick it to the GOP in the Senate who continue to enable Trump and avoid doing their actual job of oversight. I want each of those assholes on record in an impeachment vote, and have that vote used against them in the 2020 elections if their seat is up.
    I think this is important as well. One party has to step up and and stand up for this country and our constitution. 
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