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You know Roberts record? I don't care about the voting record. We're discussing jurisprudence. You're so team oriented that you can't process the same arguments from the other side.Halifax2TheMax said:
Didn’t answer the question. You know her voting record outside of the decisions she’s made?mrussel1 said:
Sotomayor is closer to me politically. She's also not a-political.Halifax2TheMax said:
Defeatist. Who do you trust more, Sotomayor or Roberts?mrussel1 said:
That's an unattainable bar.Halifax2TheMax said:
He doesn’t have to be “overt” or a “hack” to be partisan. Do you think Roberts is an independent thinker, devoid of politics when deciding?mrussel1 said:
True, but just because you don't like his judicial philosophy also doesn't render him a hackHalifax2TheMax said:
He doesn’t have to be “overt” to be a partisan hack.mrussel1 said:
Yes, I agree with it. My 14k posts all indicate the same.Halifax2TheMax said:
I dont think anyone’s bitching makes a difference unless it’s directed at your elected representatives and believe me, I’m sure mine are sick of hearing from me. I know they’re on my side and are doing what they can. You’re dismissing of what is happening as “Trump/Bernie bitching” and waiting for it to be too late before speaking up is what is concerning. Unless you tend to agree with what is happening right under your nose?mrussel1 said:
Your pre-bitching makes a difference?Halifax2TheMax said:
So wait until it’s too late. Gotcha.mrussel1 said:
1. Bitch when Roberts rules for unlimited executive privilegeHalifax2TheMax said:
Ruling that executive privilege Trumps house subpoenas, if it ever reaches the Supreme Court. Once this trial farce has concluded, the house should go to court over the witness testimony and documents to compel them to be provided. See where that goes because it will reach the Supreme Court. See how that turns out. “The fix is in,” is not a Bernie talking point but a distinct possibility, particularly now that there have been life time appointments to the federal bench of folks who have never presided over a trial and owe their loyalty to a party and an ideology. Impartiality is being systemically eroded. On purpose.mrussel1 said:
Oh Christ... anytime someone doesn't agree with someone else or things don't go someone's way "the fix is in".. what's he fixing precisely? I'm so tired of Bernie/Trump talking points infiltrating every discussion.gimmesometruth27 said:i think he is as much of a partisan as the rest of them. trump gave him gorsuch and kavanaugh, which gives roberts a conservative majority for propably 25 years. this is probably one of the reasons roberts is acting the way he is. the fix is in.
2. Bitch when Roberts makes a binding ruling that materially affects the course of the trial.
Until then, it's Trump/Sanders complaining of "rigged".
There's nothing in Roberts judicial record to indicate that he's an overtly partisan hack.0 -
I'm afraid you're going to be mean to me with your outstanding arguments. I couldn't possibly be expected to counter them in any way. I mean, look how dynamite they've been so far in this exchange.Halifax2TheMax said:
How profound. But not unexpected. What are you afraid of?mrussel1 said:
The dumb question got a dumb answer. Do what you will with that.Halifax2TheMax said:
It only takes one post. Not 14000 unless you want to clarify?mrussel1 said:
Yes, I agree with it. My 14k posts all indicate the same.Halifax2TheMax said:
I dont think anyone’s bitching makes a difference unless it’s directed at your elected representatives and believe me, I’m sure mine are sick of hearing from me. I know they’re on my side and are doing what they can. You’re dismissing of what is happening as “Trump/Bernie bitching” and waiting for it to be too late before speaking up is what is concerning. Unless you tend to agree with what is happening right under your nose?mrussel1 said:
Your pre-bitching makes a difference?Halifax2TheMax said:
So wait until it’s too late. Gotcha.mrussel1 said:
1. Bitch when Roberts rules for unlimited executive privilegeHalifax2TheMax said:
Ruling that executive privilege Trumps house subpoenas, if it ever reaches the Supreme Court. Once this trial farce has concluded, the house should go to court over the witness testimony and documents to compel them to be provided. See where that goes because it will reach the Supreme Court. See how that turns out. “The fix is in,” is not a Bernie talking point but a distinct possibility, particularly now that there have been life time appointments to the federal bench of folks who have never presided over a trial and owe their loyalty to a party and an ideology. Impartiality is being systemically eroded. On purpose.mrussel1 said:
Oh Christ... anytime someone doesn't agree with someone else or things don't go someone's way "the fix is in".. what's he fixing precisely? I'm so tired of Bernie/Trump talking points infiltrating every discussion.gimmesometruth27 said:i think he is as much of a partisan as the rest of them. trump gave him gorsuch and kavanaugh, which gives roberts a conservative majority for propably 25 years. this is probably one of the reasons roberts is acting the way he is. the fix is in.
2. Bitch when Roberts makes a binding ruling that materially affects the course of the trial.
Until then, it's Trump/Sanders complaining of "rigged".
There's nothing in Roberts judicial record to indicate that he's an overtly partisan hack.0 -
I thought for sure you answered that question right. I can only imagine what road "Roberts" would have brought us down.mrussel1 said:
You know Roberts record? I don't care about the voting record. We're discussing jurisprudence. You're so team oriented that you can't process the same arguments from the other side.Halifax2TheMax said:
Didn’t answer the question. You know her voting record outside of the decisions she’s made?mrussel1 said:
Sotomayor is closer to me politically. She's also not a-political.Halifax2TheMax said:
Defeatist. Who do you trust more, Sotomayor or Roberts?mrussel1 said:
That's an unattainable bar.Halifax2TheMax said:
He doesn’t have to be “overt” or a “hack” to be partisan. Do you think Roberts is an independent thinker, devoid of politics when deciding?mrussel1 said:
True, but just because you don't like his judicial philosophy also doesn't render him a hackHalifax2TheMax said:
He doesn’t have to be “overt” to be a partisan hack.mrussel1 said:
Yes, I agree with it. My 14k posts all indicate the same.Halifax2TheMax said:
I dont think anyone’s bitching makes a difference unless it’s directed at your elected representatives and believe me, I’m sure mine are sick of hearing from me. I know they’re on my side and are doing what they can. You’re dismissing of what is happening as “Trump/Bernie bitching” and waiting for it to be too late before speaking up is what is concerning. Unless you tend to agree with what is happening right under your nose?mrussel1 said:
Your pre-bitching makes a difference?Halifax2TheMax said:
So wait until it’s too late. Gotcha.mrussel1 said:
1. Bitch when Roberts rules for unlimited executive privilegeHalifax2TheMax said:
Ruling that executive privilege Trumps house subpoenas, if it ever reaches the Supreme Court. Once this trial farce has concluded, the house should go to court over the witness testimony and documents to compel them to be provided. See where that goes because it will reach the Supreme Court. See how that turns out. “The fix is in,” is not a Bernie talking point but a distinct possibility, particularly now that there have been life time appointments to the federal bench of folks who have never presided over a trial and owe their loyalty to a party and an ideology. Impartiality is being systemically eroded. On purpose.mrussel1 said:
Oh Christ... anytime someone doesn't agree with someone else or things don't go someone's way "the fix is in".. what's he fixing precisely? I'm so tired of Bernie/Trump talking points infiltrating every discussion.gimmesometruth27 said:i think he is as much of a partisan as the rest of them. trump gave him gorsuch and kavanaugh, which gives roberts a conservative majority for propably 25 years. this is probably one of the reasons roberts is acting the way he is. the fix is in.
2. Bitch when Roberts makes a binding ruling that materially affects the course of the trial.
Until then, it's Trump/Sanders complaining of "rigged".
There's nothing in Roberts judicial record to indicate that he's an overtly partisan hack.
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Do you? You seem to believe that Roberts is some unbiased arbitar of truth, justice and the American way rather than a partisan. Fancy that.mrussel1 said:
You know Roberts record? I don't care about the voting record. We're discussing jurisprudence. You're so team oriented that you can't process the same arguments from the other side.Halifax2TheMax said:
Didn’t answer the question. You know her voting record outside of the decisions she’s made?mrussel1 said:
Sotomayor is closer to me politically. She's also not a-political.Halifax2TheMax said:
Defeatist. Who do you trust more, Sotomayor or Roberts?mrussel1 said:
That's an unattainable bar.Halifax2TheMax said:
He doesn’t have to be “overt” or a “hack” to be partisan. Do you think Roberts is an independent thinker, devoid of politics when deciding?mrussel1 said:
True, but just because you don't like his judicial philosophy also doesn't render him a hackHalifax2TheMax said:
He doesn’t have to be “overt” to be a partisan hack.mrussel1 said:
Yes, I agree with it. My 14k posts all indicate the same.Halifax2TheMax said:
I dont think anyone’s bitching makes a difference unless it’s directed at your elected representatives and believe me, I’m sure mine are sick of hearing from me. I know they’re on my side and are doing what they can. You’re dismissing of what is happening as “Trump/Bernie bitching” and waiting for it to be too late before speaking up is what is concerning. Unless you tend to agree with what is happening right under your nose?mrussel1 said:
Your pre-bitching makes a difference?Halifax2TheMax said:
So wait until it’s too late. Gotcha.mrussel1 said:
1. Bitch when Roberts rules for unlimited executive privilegeHalifax2TheMax said:
Ruling that executive privilege Trumps house subpoenas, if it ever reaches the Supreme Court. Once this trial farce has concluded, the house should go to court over the witness testimony and documents to compel them to be provided. See where that goes because it will reach the Supreme Court. See how that turns out. “The fix is in,” is not a Bernie talking point but a distinct possibility, particularly now that there have been life time appointments to the federal bench of folks who have never presided over a trial and owe their loyalty to a party and an ideology. Impartiality is being systemically eroded. On purpose.mrussel1 said:
Oh Christ... anytime someone doesn't agree with someone else or things don't go someone's way "the fix is in".. what's he fixing precisely? I'm so tired of Bernie/Trump talking points infiltrating every discussion.gimmesometruth27 said:i think he is as much of a partisan as the rest of them. trump gave him gorsuch and kavanaugh, which gives roberts a conservative majority for propably 25 years. this is probably one of the reasons roberts is acting the way he is. the fix is in.
2. Bitch when Roberts makes a binding ruling that materially affects the course of the trial.
Until then, it's Trump/Sanders complaining of "rigged".
There's nothing in Roberts judicial record to indicate that he's an overtly partisan hack.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Avoiding direct answers is not a good look. You complained about “Trump/Bernie bitching” and what are you doing? “Bitching.”mrussel1 said:
I'm afraid you're going to be mean to me with your outstanding arguments. I couldn't possibly be expected to counter them in any way. I mean, look how dynamite they've been so far in this exchange.Halifax2TheMax said:
How profound. But not unexpected. What are you afraid of?mrussel1 said:
The dumb question got a dumb answer. Do what you will with that.Halifax2TheMax said:
It only takes one post. Not 14000 unless you want to clarify?mrussel1 said:
Yes, I agree with it. My 14k posts all indicate the same.Halifax2TheMax said:
I dont think anyone’s bitching makes a difference unless it’s directed at your elected representatives and believe me, I’m sure mine are sick of hearing from me. I know they’re on my side and are doing what they can. You’re dismissing of what is happening as “Trump/Bernie bitching” and waiting for it to be too late before speaking up is what is concerning. Unless you tend to agree with what is happening right under your nose?mrussel1 said:
Your pre-bitching makes a difference?Halifax2TheMax said:
So wait until it’s too late. Gotcha.mrussel1 said:
1. Bitch when Roberts rules for unlimited executive privilegeHalifax2TheMax said:
Ruling that executive privilege Trumps house subpoenas, if it ever reaches the Supreme Court. Once this trial farce has concluded, the house should go to court over the witness testimony and documents to compel them to be provided. See where that goes because it will reach the Supreme Court. See how that turns out. “The fix is in,” is not a Bernie talking point but a distinct possibility, particularly now that there have been life time appointments to the federal bench of folks who have never presided over a trial and owe their loyalty to a party and an ideology. Impartiality is being systemically eroded. On purpose.mrussel1 said:
Oh Christ... anytime someone doesn't agree with someone else or things don't go someone's way "the fix is in".. what's he fixing precisely? I'm so tired of Bernie/Trump talking points infiltrating every discussion.gimmesometruth27 said:i think he is as much of a partisan as the rest of them. trump gave him gorsuch and kavanaugh, which gives roberts a conservative majority for propably 25 years. this is probably one of the reasons roberts is acting the way he is. the fix is in.
2. Bitch when Roberts makes a binding ruling that materially affects the course of the trial.
Until then, it's Trump/Sanders complaining of "rigged".
There's nothing in Roberts judicial record to indicate that he's an overtly partisan hack.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Oh sorry if it's not a good look in your opinion. You still asked me a stupid question which only deserves a stupid answer. I gave it the seriousness commensurate with the question.Halifax2TheMax said:
Avoiding direct answers is not a good look. You complained about “Trump/Bernie bitching” and what are you doing? “Bitching.”mrussel1 said:
I'm afraid you're going to be mean to me with your outstanding arguments. I couldn't possibly be expected to counter them in any way. I mean, look how dynamite they've been so far in this exchange.Halifax2TheMax said:
How profound. But not unexpected. What are you afraid of?mrussel1 said:
The dumb question got a dumb answer. Do what you will with that.Halifax2TheMax said:
It only takes one post. Not 14000 unless you want to clarify?mrussel1 said:
Yes, I agree with it. My 14k posts all indicate the same.Halifax2TheMax said:
I dont think anyone’s bitching makes a difference unless it’s directed at your elected representatives and believe me, I’m sure mine are sick of hearing from me. I know they’re on my side and are doing what they can. You’re dismissing of what is happening as “Trump/Bernie bitching” and waiting for it to be too late before speaking up is what is concerning. Unless you tend to agree with what is happening right under your nose?mrussel1 said:
Your pre-bitching makes a difference?Halifax2TheMax said:
So wait until it’s too late. Gotcha.mrussel1 said:
1. Bitch when Roberts rules for unlimited executive privilegeHalifax2TheMax said:
Ruling that executive privilege Trumps house subpoenas, if it ever reaches the Supreme Court. Once this trial farce has concluded, the house should go to court over the witness testimony and documents to compel them to be provided. See where that goes because it will reach the Supreme Court. See how that turns out. “The fix is in,” is not a Bernie talking point but a distinct possibility, particularly now that there have been life time appointments to the federal bench of folks who have never presided over a trial and owe their loyalty to a party and an ideology. Impartiality is being systemically eroded. On purpose.mrussel1 said:
Oh Christ... anytime someone doesn't agree with someone else or things don't go someone's way "the fix is in".. what's he fixing precisely? I'm so tired of Bernie/Trump talking points infiltrating every discussion.gimmesometruth27 said:i think he is as much of a partisan as the rest of them. trump gave him gorsuch and kavanaugh, which gives roberts a conservative majority for propably 25 years. this is probably one of the reasons roberts is acting the way he is. the fix is in.
2. Bitch when Roberts makes a binding ruling that materially affects the course of the trial.
Until then, it's Trump/Sanders complaining of "rigged".
There's nothing in Roberts judicial record to indicate that he's an overtly partisan hack.0 -
Nope.. read the thread again. R.I.F. Nowhere did I say that. Your cartoonish bias disables you from processing rational arguments.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you? You seem to believe that Roberts is some unbiased arbitar of truth, justice and the American way rather than a partisan. Fancy that.mrussel1 said:
You know Roberts record? I don't care about the voting record. We're discussing jurisprudence. You're so team oriented that you can't process the same arguments from the other side.Halifax2TheMax said:
Didn’t answer the question. You know her voting record outside of the decisions she’s made?mrussel1 said:
Sotomayor is closer to me politically. She's also not a-political.Halifax2TheMax said:
Defeatist. Who do you trust more, Sotomayor or Roberts?mrussel1 said:
That's an unattainable bar.Halifax2TheMax said:
He doesn’t have to be “overt” or a “hack” to be partisan. Do you think Roberts is an independent thinker, devoid of politics when deciding?mrussel1 said:
True, but just because you don't like his judicial philosophy also doesn't render him a hackHalifax2TheMax said:
He doesn’t have to be “overt” to be a partisan hack.mrussel1 said:
Yes, I agree with it. My 14k posts all indicate the same.Halifax2TheMax said:
I dont think anyone’s bitching makes a difference unless it’s directed at your elected representatives and believe me, I’m sure mine are sick of hearing from me. I know they’re on my side and are doing what they can. You’re dismissing of what is happening as “Trump/Bernie bitching” and waiting for it to be too late before speaking up is what is concerning. Unless you tend to agree with what is happening right under your nose?mrussel1 said:
Your pre-bitching makes a difference?Halifax2TheMax said:
So wait until it’s too late. Gotcha.mrussel1 said:
1. Bitch when Roberts rules for unlimited executive privilegeHalifax2TheMax said:
Ruling that executive privilege Trumps house subpoenas, if it ever reaches the Supreme Court. Once this trial farce has concluded, the house should go to court over the witness testimony and documents to compel them to be provided. See where that goes because it will reach the Supreme Court. See how that turns out. “The fix is in,” is not a Bernie talking point but a distinct possibility, particularly now that there have been life time appointments to the federal bench of folks who have never presided over a trial and owe their loyalty to a party and an ideology. Impartiality is being systemically eroded. On purpose.mrussel1 said:
Oh Christ... anytime someone doesn't agree with someone else or things don't go someone's way "the fix is in".. what's he fixing precisely? I'm so tired of Bernie/Trump talking points infiltrating every discussion.gimmesometruth27 said:i think he is as much of a partisan as the rest of them. trump gave him gorsuch and kavanaugh, which gives roberts a conservative majority for propably 25 years. this is probably one of the reasons roberts is acting the way he is. the fix is in.
2. Bitch when Roberts makes a binding ruling that materially affects the course of the trial.
Until then, it's Trump/Sanders complaining of "rigged".
There's nothing in Roberts judicial record to indicate that he's an overtly partisan hack.
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Then what did you mean by “overt partisan hack?” We deconstructed it to “partisan” and it seems you believe otherwise. I’m assuming on his case voting record. I disagree with you. And you characterized the concern of Roberts and his potential judgements to be nothing but “Trump/Bernie bitching.” And when asked who you trusted more, Roberts or Sotomayor, you didnt answer.mrussel1 said:
Nope.. read the thread again. R.I.F. Nowhere did I say that. Your cartoonish bias disables you from processing rational arguments.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you? You seem to believe that Roberts is some unbiased arbitar of truth, justice and the American way rather than a partisan. Fancy that.mrussel1 said:
You know Roberts record? I don't care about the voting record. We're discussing jurisprudence. You're so team oriented that you can't process the same arguments from the other side.Halifax2TheMax said:
Didn’t answer the question. You know her voting record outside of the decisions she’s made?mrussel1 said:
Sotomayor is closer to me politically. She's also not a-political.Halifax2TheMax said:
Defeatist. Who do you trust more, Sotomayor or Roberts?mrussel1 said:
That's an unattainable bar.Halifax2TheMax said:
He doesn’t have to be “overt” or a “hack” to be partisan. Do you think Roberts is an independent thinker, devoid of politics when deciding?mrussel1 said:
True, but just because you don't like his judicial philosophy also doesn't render him a hackHalifax2TheMax said:
He doesn’t have to be “overt” to be a partisan hack.mrussel1 said:
Yes, I agree with it. My 14k posts all indicate the same.Halifax2TheMax said:
I dont think anyone’s bitching makes a difference unless it’s directed at your elected representatives and believe me, I’m sure mine are sick of hearing from me. I know they’re on my side and are doing what they can. You’re dismissing of what is happening as “Trump/Bernie bitching” and waiting for it to be too late before speaking up is what is concerning. Unless you tend to agree with what is happening right under your nose?mrussel1 said:
Your pre-bitching makes a difference?Halifax2TheMax said:
So wait until it’s too late. Gotcha.mrussel1 said:
1. Bitch when Roberts rules for unlimited executive privilegeHalifax2TheMax said:
Ruling that executive privilege Trumps house subpoenas, if it ever reaches the Supreme Court. Once this trial farce has concluded, the house should go to court over the witness testimony and documents to compel them to be provided. See where that goes because it will reach the Supreme Court. See how that turns out. “The fix is in,” is not a Bernie talking point but a distinct possibility, particularly now that there have been life time appointments to the federal bench of folks who have never presided over a trial and owe their loyalty to a party and an ideology. Impartiality is being systemically eroded. On purpose.mrussel1 said:
Oh Christ... anytime someone doesn't agree with someone else or things don't go someone's way "the fix is in".. what's he fixing precisely? I'm so tired of Bernie/Trump talking points infiltrating every discussion.gimmesometruth27 said:i think he is as much of a partisan as the rest of them. trump gave him gorsuch and kavanaugh, which gives roberts a conservative majority for propably 25 years. this is probably one of the reasons roberts is acting the way he is. the fix is in.
2. Bitch when Roberts makes a binding ruling that materially affects the course of the trial.
Until then, it's Trump/Sanders complaining of "rigged".
There's nothing in Roberts judicial record to indicate that he's an overtly partisan hack.
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I said it was premature to call the proceedings rigged based on Roberts being the justice, and there was nothing in his justice record that could lead one to call him an overt partisan hack. You also asked if I knew Roberts voting record, I assume you mean election, not judicial and of course I don't, like neither of us knows Sotomayor..at least I don't.Halifax2TheMax said:
Then what did you mean by “overt partisan hack?” We deconstructed it to “partisan” and it seems you believe otherwise. I’m assuming on his case voting record. I disagree with you. And you characterized the concern of Roberts and his potential judgements to be nothing but “Trump/Bernie bitching.” And when asked who you trusted more, Roberts or Sotomayor, you didnt answer.mrussel1 said:
Nope.. read the thread again. R.I.F. Nowhere did I say that. Your cartoonish bias disables you from processing rational arguments.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you? You seem to believe that Roberts is some unbiased arbitar of truth, justice and the American way rather than a partisan. Fancy that.mrussel1 said:
You know Roberts record? I don't care about the voting record. We're discussing jurisprudence. You're so team oriented that you can't process the same arguments from the other side.Halifax2TheMax said:
Didn’t answer the question. You know her voting record outside of the decisions she’s made?mrussel1 said:
Sotomayor is closer to me politically. She's also not a-political.Halifax2TheMax said:
Defeatist. Who do you trust more, Sotomayor or Roberts?mrussel1 said:
That's an unattainable bar.Halifax2TheMax said:
He doesn’t have to be “overt” or a “hack” to be partisan. Do you think Roberts is an independent thinker, devoid of politics when deciding?mrussel1 said:
True, but just because you don't like his judicial philosophy also doesn't render him a hackHalifax2TheMax said:
He doesn’t have to be “overt” to be a partisan hack.mrussel1 said:
Yes, I agree with it. My 14k posts all indicate the same.Halifax2TheMax said:
I dont think anyone’s bitching makes a difference unless it’s directed at your elected representatives and believe me, I’m sure mine are sick of hearing from me. I know they’re on my side and are doing what they can. You’re dismissing of what is happening as “Trump/Bernie bitching” and waiting for it to be too late before speaking up is what is concerning. Unless you tend to agree with what is happening right under your nose?mrussel1 said:
Your pre-bitching makes a difference?Halifax2TheMax said:
So wait until it’s too late. Gotcha.mrussel1 said:
1. Bitch when Roberts rules for unlimited executive privilegeHalifax2TheMax said:
Ruling that executive privilege Trumps house subpoenas, if it ever reaches the Supreme Court. Once this trial farce has concluded, the house should go to court over the witness testimony and documents to compel them to be provided. See where that goes because it will reach the Supreme Court. See how that turns out. “The fix is in,” is not a Bernie talking point but a distinct possibility, particularly now that there have been life time appointments to the federal bench of folks who have never presided over a trial and owe their loyalty to a party and an ideology. Impartiality is being systemically eroded. On purpose.mrussel1 said:
Oh Christ... anytime someone doesn't agree with someone else or things don't go someone's way "the fix is in".. what's he fixing precisely? I'm so tired of Bernie/Trump talking points infiltrating every discussion.gimmesometruth27 said:i think he is as much of a partisan as the rest of them. trump gave him gorsuch and kavanaugh, which gives roberts a conservative majority for propably 25 years. this is probably one of the reasons roberts is acting the way he is. the fix is in.
2. Bitch when Roberts makes a binding ruling that materially affects the course of the trial.
Until then, it's Trump/Sanders complaining of "rigged".
There's nothing in Roberts judicial record to indicate that he's an overtly partisan hack.
My “cartoonish” bias? I wish I could draw. Thanks for the laugh.
The point I made and continue to make, is that it's silly to act like the trial is rigged because Roberts presides. He has done zero to lead one to that conclusion. Save the bitching for when something happens. Otherwise it's like Sanders and Trump supporters who claim everything that doesn't go their way is "rigged".
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Yes, but the bizarre part is that he's talking about whatever he's talking about over dinner with these Ukrainian dudes and whomever else. If someone had taped him having this discussion with a couple cabinet members in the oval office it would be "ok...so what?"OnWis97 said:Serious question: Assuming Trump is on tape saying he wants the ambassador out...so? Isn’t it his prerogative as President?0 -
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