***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    yesterday was pretty damning for dump. many people watched it on the networks and not the regular cable news outlets. the american people saw first hand the buffoonery of the republican defense strategy.

    "was it as bad as it could have been?" is not a defense.
    Fox news called it a win for republicans and a disaster for democrats. LOL
    Wasn't it though?  Aren't we so desensitized to it that nobody cares?  Did the GOP budge even one bit on protecting Trump and putting party first?
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    2018
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    yesterday was pretty damning for dump. many people watched it on the networks and not the regular cable news outlets. the american people saw first hand the buffoonery of the republican defense strategy.

    "was it as bad as it could have been?" is not a defense.
    Fox news called it a win for republicans and a disaster for democrats. LOL
    fox news wasn't treating it like a STORY during Tucker Carlson.  they just weren't talking about it.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    OnWis97 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    yesterday was pretty damning for dump. many people watched it on the networks and not the regular cable news outlets. the american people saw first hand the buffoonery of the republican defense strategy.

    "was it as bad as it could have been?" is not a defense.
    Fox news called it a win for republicans and a disaster for democrats. LOL
    Wasn't it though?  Aren't we so desensitized to it that nobody cares?  Did the GOP budge even one bit on protecting Trump and putting party first?
    The people who need to be moved are the ones that get their information from the nightly news,  GMA, Today show,  etc. People who watch fox and MSNBC are not going to be moved.  So imo, what Fox puts on is just choir preaching. 
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    2018
    some perspective...

    August 20th, 2019 the President of the United States asserted a tougher position on Democratic Party members who are Jewish than he has on actual American Neo-Nazis.

     

    "Any Jew that votes Democrat is disloyal."
    - Donald Trump

    He's a worthless POS.  
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,967
    2. Violated his marriage vows by cheating on his wife with Stormy Daniels right around the time of his son's birth. I forget whether before or after. 
    3. Thinks sexual assault is ok and brags about it.

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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    "THE FIELD"
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    yesterday was pretty damning for dump. many people watched it on the networks and not the regular cable news outlets. the american people saw first hand the buffoonery of the republican defense strategy.

    "was it as bad as it could have been?" is not a defense.
    Fox news called it a win for republicans and a disaster for democrats. LOL
    Wasn't it though?  Aren't we so desensitized to it that nobody cares?  Did the GOP budge even one bit on protecting Trump and putting party first?
    The people who need to be moved are the ones that get their information from the nightly news,  GMA, Today show,  etc. People who watch fox and MSNBC are not going to be moved.  So imo, what Fox puts on is just choir preaching. 
    I agree.  But I question whether any of these people were moved.  We've been dealing with this for so long, they're probably desensitized.  I feel like the GOP wins until there's a smoking bazooka.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    edited November 2019
    2018
    https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-complete-listing-so-far-atrocities-1-546
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,967
    ikiT said:
    https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-complete-listing-so-far-atrocities-1-546
    It even has an Atrocity Key. Thanks, I was pretty sure someone was tracking his crap somewhere. When will this nightmare be over?

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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    2019
    ikiT said:
    https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-complete-listing-so-far-atrocities-1-546
    Wow, that was like a book to read through. If most people knew half these things he's done they wouldn't want to even shake his hand. He's one gross individual.

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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,967
    Another building block to the case. 

    From Huffpost:
    "WASHINGTON (AP) — A second U.S. Embassy staffer in Kyiv overheard a cellphone call between President Donald Trump and his ambassador to the European Union discussing a need for Ukrainian officials to pursue “investigations,” The Associated Press has learned."
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,474
    Kat said:
    Another building block to the case. 

    From Huffpost:
    "WASHINGTON (AP) — A second U.S. Embassy staffer in Kyiv overheard a cellphone call between President Donald Trump and his ambassador to the European Union discussing a need for Ukrainian officials to pursue “investigations,” The Associated Press has learned."


    Is the Ambassador going to be questioned or is he declining/declined already?
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,967
    edited November 2019
     Marie Yovanovitch, former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine will testify tomorrow and I believe the restaurant caller Sondland is scheduled for next week. I don't think he has declined. More details here, names, etc.
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-sondland-ukraine-call_n_5dcd8695e4b0a794d1fc54dc
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,474
    Kat said:
     Marie Yovanovitch, former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine will testify tomorrow and I believe the restaurant caller Sondland is scheduled for next week. I don't think he has declined. More details here, names, etc.
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-sondland-ukraine-call_n_5dcd8695e4b0a794d1fc54dc
    Sondland is the one I want to hear from.  That is where the QPC comes from.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,315
    The only thing that I think we can all agree is that the media coverage is about 10% of what you would have expected for such an event.  
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,199
    edited November 2019
    Kat said:
     Marie Yovanovitch, former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine will testify tomorrow and I believe the restaurant caller Sondland is scheduled for next week. I don't think he has declined. More details here, names, etc.
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-sondland-ukraine-call_n_5dcd8695e4b0a794d1fc54dc

    Sondland potentially perjured himself in his initial testimony. He went back in a corrected himself. He is a millionaire. He is not going to allow himself to go down with this sinking ship.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
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    Jason P said:
    The only thing that I think we can all agree is that the media coverage is about 10% of what you would have expected for such an event.  
    I think that's partly a function of how desensitized we are.  The Mueller Report was so built up and didn't end up amounting to much...I think to a lot of people, this is just more of the same. It's almost like if Trump's team was gonna break laws the best move was to break even more laws and do as much ridiculous shit as possible, thereby assuring that there is no "Watergate" moment of truth.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,524
    2018
    OnWis97 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    yesterday was pretty damning for dump. many people watched it on the networks and not the regular cable news outlets. the american people saw first hand the buffoonery of the republican defense strategy.

    "was it as bad as it could have been?" is not a defense.
    Fox news called it a win for republicans and a disaster for democrats. LOL
    Wasn't it though?  Aren't we so desensitized to it that nobody cares?  Did the GOP budge even one bit on protecting Trump and putting party first?
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/14/media/ratings-impeachment-hearing/index.html
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,199
    I think the administration and fox new is banking on americans being too stupid and/or too intellectually lazy that they will not grasp concepts like bribery and extortion. Those crimes can be every bit as illegal as murder or violent crime. Fox and the gop will probably say that bribery and extortion are not in the 10 commandments, therefore are not severe crimes, or even crimes at all.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,524
    2018
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    I think the administration and fox new is banking on americans being too stupid and/or too intellectually lazy that they will not grasp concepts like bribery and extortion. Those crimes can be every bit as illegal as murder or violent crime. Fox and the gop will probably say that bribery and extortion are not in the 10 commandments, therefore are not severe crimes, or even crimes at all.
    I think they'll fall back on it actually BEING a quid pro quo, and will further explain that the US has been doing things for free for far too long without getting anything in return, so "damn right we demanded they do us a favour like look into the possible corruption of a former vice president! the US doesn't do business with corrupt countries without an investigation first!". And his base will eat it the fuck up and the GOP senators will fall in line. just like the spineless snakes have done the past 3 years. 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,199
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    I think the administration and fox new is banking on americans being too stupid and/or too intellectually lazy that they will not grasp concepts like bribery and extortion. Those crimes can be every bit as illegal as murder or violent crime. Fox and the gop will probably say that bribery and extortion are not in the 10 commandments, therefore are not severe crimes, or even crimes at all.
    I think they'll fall back on it actually BEING a quid pro quo, and will further explain that the US has been doing things for free for far too long without getting anything in return, so "damn right we demanded they do us a favour like look into the possible corruption of a former vice president! the US doesn't do business with corrupt countries without an investigation first!". And his base will eat it the fuck up and the GOP senators will fall in line. just like the spineless snakes have done the past 3 years. 
    his base is less than 40% of the population and shrinking. He has 51 senators. kind of a shitty situation for dems.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."

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